Comments on: Nielsen Ratings - Tue, Feb 12: All Hail Jericho?

By: Stacie/CBERapps/Mickeyfan3

Stacie/CBERapps/Mickeyfan3 — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:28:54 +0000

Jericho just keeps getting better and better. Nielson is NOT an accurate numbers cruncher – it’s antiquated and unless they’re going to put a box in every American household, the networks should not be making decisions soley or in part based on this system!

As for Big Brother – sleeze TV at best. It belongs on very late night Cable TV……or maybe they should have put Jericho on right after NCIS and then BB at 10. I bet a lot of potential new viewers were lost to Jericho after not wanting to wait an hour between 2 great shows.

By: Stacie/CBERapps/Mickeyfan3

Stacie/CBERapps/Mickeyfan3 — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:28:54 +0000

Jericho just keeps getting better and better. Nielson is NOT an accurate numbers cruncher – it's antiquated and unless they're going to put a box in every American household, the networks should not be making decisions soley or in part based on this system!

By: Melissa

Melissa — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:42:39 +0000

Keep Jericho alive! One of the few best shows on TV!

By: Melissa

Melissa — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:42:39 +0000

Keep Jericho alive! One of the few best shows on TV!

By: Ted

Ted — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:08:11 +0000

I live in Canda, and watch Jericho it’s on 3 days of the week at various times (AST). I use a DVR off Satelite. The system can’t determine if I am watching live, as the dish does not transmit the info back to the provider.

Tuesdays @ 8pm CTV
Tuesdays @ 11pm CTV
Tuesdays @ 11pm CBS
Saturday @ 9pm Space
Sunday @ 10am Space
Sunday @ 6pm Space

If anything these TV conglomerates should have a petition online to gain a true reflection of numbers.

By: Ted

Ted — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:08:11 +0000

I live in Canda, and watch Jericho it's on 3 days of the week at various times (AST). I use a DVR off Satelite. The system can't determine if I am watching live, as the dish does not transmit the info back to the provider.

Tuesdays @ 8pm CTV
Tuesdays @ 11pm CTV
Tuesdays @ 11pm CBS
Saturday @ 9pm Space
Sunday @ 10am Space
Sunday @ 6pm Space

If anything these TV conglomerates should have a petition online to gain a true reflection of numbers.

By: Sarah

Sarah — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:26:11 +0000

I love Jericho and cannot believe the numbers! I know a few people who do not stay up that late but tape it so it is a poor reflection of accurate numbers! I have converted my office to watch the show as well as my family.

By: Sarah

Sarah — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:26:11 +0000

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:36:36 +0000

we need to pull a scam like they did in the 84′ movie starring danny devito, the ratings game. Lets hijack some nielson family homes and tune into shows like Jericho, Battlestar Galactica, Lost, and if it comes back on, Firefly (the greatest, most short lived show I have ever seen on tv)

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:36:36 +0000

we need to pull a scam like they did in the 84' movie starring danny devito, the ratings game. Lets hijack some nielson family homes and tune into shows like Jericho, Battlestar Galactica, Lost, and if it comes back on, Firefly (the greatest, most short lived show I have ever seen on tv)

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:04:43 +0000

Bill, that’s not entirely accurate. While there are still diaries/journals, the “people meters” (you can google and read up on it) make up (I believe) the biggest percentage of the Nielsen tracking.

You are however correct in suggesting that if you’re not a Nielsen family, your eyeballs don’t count in the ratings, but that’s true for any and all shows, not just Jericho.

I’m in no way saying its a perfect system, only that Jericho, like all other shows will get judged within that system anyway.

By: Bill Conklin

Bill Conklin — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:45:37 +0000

Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way. Unless you are part of the Nielson group that the surveys are gathered from, your watching doesn’t even count. A department store could have 25 television sets all set to CBS “Jericho” and it wouldn’t matter. I was part of the Nielson group two years ago. I had to keep track of everything that I watched for two weeks and mail those reports back to them. I also had to let them know any shows that I DVR’d or recorded. This is how they come up with the Nielson ratings. I learned that unless we are part of the Nielson group, the networks aren’t even aware of what we are watching. Sucks, doesn’t it?

By: R.J.

R.J. — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:25:38 +0000

No the reason the show is doing badly is because everyone is making excuses on why they didn’t watch it.

I mean come on. I don’t watch my favorite show on t.v. I watch my second favorite and DVR my favorite.

That is why the will cancel this show. Because you all are idiots. I mean come on how often do they give a show a second chance.
Almost never and you all are just throwing away Jericho’s.

Just turn on your damn t.v. and leave it on if you are going to sleep. Other then that it is all of your faults. We TIVO Jericho and still watch it on one of the other t.v.s. All t.v.s in our house are on Jericho at that time even the ones in rooms we don’t watch.

IT IS ALL YOUR FAULTS AND WE HATE YOU FOR IT.

By: Bill Conklin

Bill Conklin — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:22:34 +0000

CBS needs to wake up. Finally we have a show in Jericho with a little meat and a lot of teeth. No fluff. No predictable sitcoms with predictable laugh tracks. No whining that you see on all of the “so called” reality shows. Finally a show for adults who enjoy great writing with great actors to pull it off. I too am confused by the ratings. Everyone I know is watching. The postings on this site show me that we are not alone. If we lose Jericho again, those who did not give it a chance will deserve the whining feuds that are rampant on the “reality” shows.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:04:43 +0000

Bill, that's not entirely accurate. While there are still diaries/journals, the "people meters" (you can google and read up on it) make up (I believe) the biggest percentage of the Nielsen tracking.

You are however correct in suggesting that if you're not a Nielsen family, your eyeballs don't count in the ratings, but that's true for any and all shows, not just Jericho.

I'm in no way saying its a perfect system, only that Jericho, like all other shows will get judged within that system anyway.

By: Bill Conklin

Bill Conklin — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:45:37 +0000

Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. Unless you are part of the Nielson group that the surveys are gathered from, your watching doesn't even count. A department store could have 25 television sets all set to CBS “Jericho” and it wouldn't matter. I was part of the Nielson group two years ago. I had to keep track of everything that I watched for two weeks and mail those reports back to them. I also had to let them know any shows that I DVR'd or recorded. This is how they come up with the Nielson ratings. I learned that unless we are part of the Nielson group, the networks aren't even aware of what we are watching. Sucks, doesn't it?

By: R.J.

R.J. — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:25:38 +0000

No the reason the show is doing badly is because everyone is making excuses on why they didn't watch it.

I mean come on. I don't watch my favorite show on t.v. I watch my second favorite and DVR my favorite.

That is why the will cancel this show. Because you all are idiots. I mean come on how often do they give a show a second chance.
Almost never and you all are just throwing away Jericho's.

Just turn on your damn t.v. and leave it on if you are going to sleep. Other then that it is all of your faults. We TIVO Jericho and still watch it on one of the other t.v.s. All t.v.s in our house are on Jericho at that time even the ones in rooms we don't watch.

IT IS ALL YOUR FAULTS AND WE HATE YOU FOR IT.

By: Bill Conklin

Bill Conklin — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:22:34 +0000

By: Lorraine

Lorraine — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:07:13 +0000

They should put Jericho back on Wednesday’s at 8:00, and definitely not put it up against Boston Legal. With all the junk “reality” out there, there are few shows I watch, and I don’t like two of them being opposite of each other. Put Jericho back on Wednesday at 8:00, since CBS stupidly took The Power of 10 off, the timeslot is open.

By: Lorraine

Lorraine — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:07:13 +0000

They should put Jericho back on Wednesday's at 8:00, and definitely not put it up against Boston Legal. With all the junk “reality” out there, there are few shows I watch, and I don't like two of them being opposite of each other. Put Jericho back on Wednesday at 8:00, since CBS stupidly took The Power of 10 off, the timeslot is open.

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:10:21 +0000

The neilson ratings are an absolute joke, its something like one viewer per 80,000 homes or something ridiculous like that. They should take info on what people record on dvr’s, also hits to the website of the show as well as statistical information on how well the show is doing.

Also make sure the shows on a reasonable time slot with a chance to succeed. Just take a look at shows like Firefly or Vanished on fox that were destroyed by stupid executives who had no clue on how to set up a viewable tv lineup.

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:10:21 +0000

The neilson ratings are an absolute joke, its something like one viewer per 80,000 homes or something ridiculous like that. They should take info on what people record on dvr's, also hits to the website of the show as well as statistical information on how well the show is doing.

By: Ana

Ana — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:51:21 +0000

CBS keeps saying that they need all eyeballs on their TV screens at a certain time LIVE, but all of us that do this without neilson boxes do not get counted. Tell me how does this work? Neilson needs to find a way to count live viewings on everyones TV including New Media watchers. I have never trusted Neilson. Another article I found on the web posted how Jericho changed the way Neilson works, they found a flaw in their system and are trying to find a way to make these numbers more accurate. I just wish they would do this before more quality programs get tossed aside because of an error in numbers. Long Live Jericho!

By: Ana

Ana — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:51:21 +0000

By: Dean

Dean — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:50:46 +0000

I don’t think NCIS is a great lead in for either BB or Jericho. BB has nothing in common with NCIS. Also did BB come in 2nd in the time slot following AI? Not surprising AI won the slot is it? What is wild is a repeat of Law and Order beat out a new episode of Boston Legal? IS that right? Has BL jumped the shark already?

By: Dean

Dean — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:50:46 +0000

I don't think NCIS is a great lead in for either BB or Jericho. BB has nothing in common with NCIS. Also did BB come in 2nd in the time slot following AI? Not surprising AI won the slot is it? What is wild is a repeat of Law and Order beat out a new episode of Boston Legal? IS that right? Has BL jumped the shark already?

By: Josh

Josh — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:02:05 +0000

I don’t think that BB should be held responsible here for Jericho’s low numbers. Currently Idol is more popular and that fact can’t be denied. And just like some of you think BB is crap some people think a show like Jericho is crap. I do think that if Idol wasn’t on BB would have performed better. CBS could have pulled a stunt that Fox does show the premier on one night then for the following episodes move it to its intended timeslot.

By: Josh

Josh — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:02:05 +0000

I don't think that BB should be held responsible here for Jericho's low numbers. Currently Idol is more popular and that fact can't be denied. And just like some of you think BB is crap some people think a show like Jericho is crap. I do think that if Idol wasn't on BB would have performed better. CBS could have pulled a stunt that Fox does show the premier on one night then for the following episodes move it to its intended timeslot.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:05:09 +0000

I doubt even 200,000 are watching Jericho online between the downloads, the .com sites and itunes, but even if a MILLION people were watching online, or even two million, I’m not sure it would matter.

what CBS needs right now, is more people watching it on TV. Thats where the money is made right now.

Nobody is making any real money from online video ads yet. Someday it will certainly happen, but not today.

for now TV is still where it is at if the goal is to make money. And the goal is to make money.

By: jake rules

jake rules — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:54:46 +0000

Does CBS keep numbers regarding those who watch the episodes online? The ratings may say one thing, but if an extra 700k or so are watching episodes online, that might account for something. I love this show!

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:05:09 +0000

Jake, they can track their video streams. They do not report actual numbers though, which is definitely a sign that the numbers are not very large (not large for Jericho, not large for ALL of CBS shows available online combined). It's not yet a profitable business.

I doubt even 200,000 are watching Jericho online between the downloads, the .com sites and itunes, but even if a MILLION people were watching online, or even two million, I'm not sure it would matter.

what CBS needs right now, is more people watching it on TV. Thats where the money is made right now.

Nobody is making any real money from online video ads yet. Someday it will certainly happen, but not today.

for now TV is still where it is at if the goal is to make money. And the goal is to make money.

By: jake rules

jake rules — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:54:46 +0000

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:13:12 +0000

Also,

note that nothing in canada is counted that i know of. well nothing where i live is, and my whole neighbourhood watched it. All my friends and my friends friends.

Nielsen ratings simply don’t work, if this show doesn’t appeal to the ppl with the boxes then you lose millions of viewers when you could really just lose 1 and have those millions watching. Jericho is a different show and i think ppl Nielsen look for don’t care for it.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:13:12 +0000

Also,

note that nothing in canada is counted that i know of. well nothing where i live is, and my whole neighbourhood watched it. All my friends and my friends friends.

Nielsen ratings simply don't work, if this show doesn't appeal to the ppl with the boxes then you lose millions of viewers when you could really just lose 1 and have those millions watching. Jericho is a different show and i think ppl Nielsen look for don't care for it.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:43:43 +0000

Yeah, the leak really killed those ratings. If you watched the leaked episodes, you should go watch the online versions (or at least skip to all the commercials, as that’s probably what they track) at cbs.com and boost the ratings that way.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:43:43 +0000

Yeah, the leak really killed those ratings. If you watched the leaked episodes, you should go watch the online versions (or at least skip to all the commercials, as that's probably what they track) at cbs.com and boost the ratings that way.

By: joel

joel — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:42:28 +0000

it didnt help with somebody leaking the first 3 episodes i wonder if some big wig at cbs was behind this to kill the show it woudnt suprise me at all if cbs doent want jericho then let them go to another network look ant shows like supernatural and reaper and other shows like this there lucky to get jericho numbers both of them together and jericho is by far the better show any way thats only my opinion

By: joel

joel — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:42:28 +0000

By: Mike L

Mike L — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:27:39 +0000

LOSERS, WINERS, CRYBABIES… Quit complaining about how the numbers are rigged and the system is stupid. Bottom line is that the ratings probably aren’t 100% accurate and every show on tv could have a gripe with that and claim that more viewers actually watch. The fact that a cancelled show drew a decent rating in a crappy timeslot should be consolation enough. One last thing, Jericho was HEAVILY promoted by CBS in magazines, online and seemingly in more commercials than Budweiser so suck it up and enjoy the show.

By: Mike L

Mike L — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:27:39 +0000

LOSERS, WINERS, CRYBABIES… Quit complaining about how the numbers are rigged and the system is stupid. Bottom line is that the ratings probably aren't 100% accurate and every show on tv could have a gripe with that and claim that more viewers actually watch. The fact that a cancelled show drew a decent rating in a crappy timeslot should be consolation enough. One last thing, Jericho was HEAVILY promoted by CBS in magazines, online and seemingly in more commercials than Budweiser so suck it up and enjoy the show.

By: Jon V

Jon V — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:19:13 +0000

Shaddysmom brings up another good point about viewing preferences that Bill or Robert mentioned the other day. A lot of people watch their favorite show and DVR another choice that plays at the same time.

How many out there (like myself), record their favorite (to be enjoyed, played back, FF’d, RW’d SP’d, etc. at their leisure) and ‘kinda watch’ their second choice ‘live’. Do the networks automatically assume you are WATCHING your first and RECORDING your second choice – cuz they’d be wrong on my count.

By: shaddysmom

shaddysmom — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:08:46 +0000

Everyone I know watched the show last night. It was excellent. The DVR numbers are really not in yet so that may boost it way up once viewed. 10 pm is a terrible time slot. Jericho has a huge following and it makes no sense at all. CBS should put this show back where it belongs at 9. It’s a show that folks care and have voiced their opinions on to keep on instead of putting something new and stupid on. If they take it off again millions will be in an uproar again! Count me in!

By: Star

Star — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:36:59 +0000

Neilson doesn’t know what they are talking about. NCIS? I used to watch that show when i only had one channel. Does that mean that it’s the best show on tv..NO. It means I HAD NO CHOICE. American Idol and NCIS, the big hitters, NO REALLY?, like there was really any choice. I can guarantee that the Neilson families weren’t even watching, but asleep on their couch. Between reruns, reality shows and game shows, there is nothing on. WAKE UP REALITY IS OVER,we get enough of it during the day.

By: rick

rick — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:32:38 +0000

How do they account for online viewers? or dvrs? Come on, Nielsen ratings are dumb. Even Windows 3.1 is more up to date than this BS system!

By: Jon V

Jon V — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:19:13 +0000

How many out there (like myself), record their favorite (to be enjoyed, played back, FF'd, RW'd SP'd, etc. at their leisure) and 'kinda watch' their second choice 'live'. Do the networks automatically assume you are WATCHING your first and RECORDING your second choice – cuz they'd be wrong on my count.

By: shaddysmom

shaddysmom — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:08:46 +0000

Everyone I know watched the show last night. It was excellent. The DVR numbers are really not in yet so that may boost it way up once viewed. 10 pm is a terrible time slot. Jericho has a huge following and it makes no sense at all. CBS should put this show back where it belongs at 9. It's a show that folks care and have voiced their opinions on to keep on instead of putting something new and stupid on. If they take it off again millions will be in an uproar again! Count me in!

By: Star

Star — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:36:59 +0000

Neilson doesn't know what they are talking about. NCIS? I used to watch that show when i only had one channel. Does that mean that it's the best show on tv..NO. It means I HAD NO CHOICE. American Idol and NCIS, the big hitters, NO REALLY?, like there was really any choice. I can guarantee that the Neilson families weren't even watching, but asleep on their couch. Between reruns, reality shows and game shows, there is nothing on. WAKE UP REALITY IS OVER,we get enough of it during the day.

By: rick

rick — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:32:38 +0000

How do they account for online viewers? or dvrs? Come on, Nielsen ratings are dumb. Even Windows 3.1 is more up to date than this BS system!

By: Lawrence

Lawrence — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:10:14 +0000

I enjoy jericho and actually block off time to watch it, though with activities on Tuesday, I have to DVR it now.

When executives (on any network) give a show a second chance, they never seem to return it
1. on the same night it initially started and
2. at the same time slot.
3. and they return it against killer competition
(american idol)

Unless a show is strong (i.e. Lost) you can’t move a show around and expect it to gather fans/or TV viewers. There was another show i liked but it also kept getting moved around i don’t remember anymore what the name was, but it changed days and time slots like 4x before it got axed.

Yes CBS has done quite a bit of advertising, but I would have preferred that they had shown reruns over the past 4-5 wks up to the new season.

Lastly, i enjoyed the 1st ep of 2nd season, but sad that they had to kind of ‘gloss’ over the battle between New Bern and Jericho. Unless that’s the way they wrote it.

P.S. Bravo! to ABC for keeping ‘Pushing Daisies’ on next season’s slate. Risky, but i think the rewards could be great, plus they’re giving a show a chance to ‘Grow’. Networks are too easily disenchanted.

By: Seymour

Seymour — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:09:20 +0000

I watch all tv shows from downloads, but I made it a point stay up late and watch this show when broadcast. I brought new viewers in from all over the country, and called them last night to make sure they watched the premiere. I just don’t understand these numbers. Every person that I’ve talked to that has seen the show loves it and watched last night.