I don’t buy that anyone has ceded anything to Fox, and if they have they’re idiots.

Who “wins” the season matters only for bragging rights.

Relative ratings, including specific age groups, likely correlate pretty well to absolute revenue potential, so doing better is *always* better than doing worse.

Being #1, #2, etc. is for folks like us to chat about, working to get the marginal viewer is what the networks should always be doing.

Your logic is completely lost on me. Be thinking about the long-term, yes,but maximize the short-term. Fox seems to be the only network doing that. Meanwhile CBS/CW crow about what a hit on the web Gossip Girl is. To that end I applaud the peacocks for axing Quarterlife immediately.

When you guys get to be my age [sheesh - did I actually type that], you’ll understand the wisdom of long-term thinking. The writer’s strike is the perfect excuse to screw around with some off-the-wall stuff and see if it has a future.

The ‘Alphabets’ have already conceded the season to FOX, so, to use Bill’s bring-up-some-minor-leaguers analogy, let’s throw them some curveballs and see if they can hit.

They’ve got until September before they’re in another pennant race.

Let’s face it, the repurposed Law & Order: CI more than doubled Quarterlife’s showing, and in a much more competitive timeslot (though admittedly, a time slot with more viewer) at that. Dexter has done OK on CBS and I imagine Monk will significantly outperform Quarterlife on NBC.

I don't buy that anyone has ceded anything to Fox, and if they have they're idiots.

Who “wins” the season matters only for bragging rights.

Relative ratings, including specific age groups, likely correlate pretty well to absolute revenue potential, so doing better is *always* better than doing worse.

Being #1, #2, etc. is for folks like us to chat about, working to get the marginal viewer is what the networks should always be doing.

Wayne Friedman at Mediapost had a nice piece on that recently.

I was thinking more in terms of the ‘experimental’ results and the networks seeing if they can somehow find a crossover method that works. For that reason, I would continue the ‘trial’ and see if there is some information that can be gleaned for future reference.

The first instinct to reject it was the correct one. I don’t need more data, but if you need a few more weeks of data first, I won’t fault you for giving it more of a chance than I am giving it.

Either way though, no chance. Right?

Your logic is completely lost on me. Be thinking about the long-term, yes,but maximize the short-term. Fox seems to be the only network doing that. Meanwhile CBS/CW crow about what a hit on the web Gossip Girl is. To that end I applaud the peacocks for axing Quarterlife immediately.

I would expect that they made a commit to stick with it for X amnt of eps, regardless of numbers (I’m sure they were hoping for better).

Don’t write this off too soon… they really didn’t promote it on the TV side a great deal. I would try different methods before I cancelled – just to get a read.

It’s a new frontier… trial and error.

When you guys get to be my age [sheesh - did I actually type that], you'll understand the wisdom of long-term thinking. The writer's strike is the perfect excuse to screw around with some off-the-wall stuff and see if it has a future.

The 'Alphabets' have already conceded the season to FOX, so, to use Bill's bring-up-some-minor-leaguers analogy, let's throw them some curveballs and see if they can hit.

They've got until September before they're in another pennant race.

Let's face it, the repurposed Law & Order: CI more than doubled Quarterlife's showing, and in a much more competitive timeslot (though admittedly, a time slot with more viewer) at that. Dexter has done OK on CBS and I imagine Monk will significantly outperform Quarterlife on NBC.

Wayne Friedman at Mediapost had a nice piece on that recently.

I was thinking more in terms of the 'experimental' results and the networks seeing if they can somehow find a crossover method that works. For that reason, I would continue the 'trial' and see if there is some information that can be gleaned for future reference.

The first instinct to reject it was the correct one. I don't need more data, but if you need a few more weeks of data first, I won't fault you for giving it more of a chance than I am giving it.

Either way though, no chance. Right?

I would expect that they made a commit to stick with it for X amnt of eps, regardless of numbers (I'm sure they were hoping for better).

Don't write this off too soon… they really didn't promote it on the TV side a great deal. I would try different methods before I cancelled – just to get a read.

It's a new frontier… trial and error.

There’s a nice site called http://www.the-numbers.com (no relation) that reports top 30 DVD sales each week. Jericho has been out on DVD since the beginning of October and never made one of these lists. That doesn’t mean anything other than it never had a week where it sold even 40K units or so.

By comparison in October Hannah Montana – Life’s What You Make it was selling over 60K units a week and had over 175,000 units after 3 weeks. Lost, in late December after 3 weeks was selling 133K units a week and had over a million units sold within that time. After 6 weeks on the charts, Lost had sold 1.16 million units (so it seems to be front loaded). In its 7th week on the chart Lost season 3 was still selling 40K+ units a week and had gone over 1.2 million units.

There's a nice site called http://www.the-numbers.com (no relation) that reports top 30 DVD sales each week. Jericho has been out on DVD since the beginning of October and never made one of these lists. That doesn't mean anything other than it never had a week where it sold even 40K units or so.

By comparison in October Hannah Montana – Life's What You Make it was selling over 60K units a week and had over 175,000 units after 3 weeks. Lost, in late December after 3 weeks was selling 133K units a week and had over a million units sold within that time. After 6 weeks on the charts, Lost had sold 1.16 million units (so it seems to be front loaded). In its 7th week on the chart Lost season 3 was still selling 40K+ units a week and had gone over 1.2 million units.

On the other hand, if it’s still only around 7m viewers, what will you conclude?

On the other hand, if it's still only around 7m viewers, what will you conclude?

look at Supernatural on CW (sure CW is a weak network so numbers we talk about are different). The online following is probably bigger then there normal TV viewing and network respect this. Also it’s comes on Thursday in arguably the hardest timeslots on TV. In this timeslot it still pulls in 3.2 and that number is raising. They know there nothing else they can put there to due better because it has a hardcore following that is growing.. but most there viewers are all 18-34 and watch a lot from downloads.

CBS is lucky to have a CULT following TV show and should keep it around even as a filler mid season replacement of 10-15 episodes even until catches on more and more then can become a regular (this is a worse case scenario)

Just to say my piece, we need to remember a few things when talking about cancellations. First Jericho ratings at 6.9 before Tivo isn’t bad. Espically since the first 3 episodes have been watched long ago. Now if Jericho has a big online following then thats a lot more viewers and can really catapult CBS online viewing section if needed. Remember in 3 years writers getting money for online content (so that is coming soon). Secondly, CBS knows Jericho has a Cult following meaning number will not go down and can only grow this is huge reason x-files stayed around til it caught on because number steady out just grew and they new they always count on it, and when you think about it that way guaranteed 7 million + more due to tivo better then trying a new rushed show because of the strike. Also Jericho took a massive budget cut so viewers don’t need to be as high to get profit from the show. I think next week show is huge basically the midway point and hasn’t been leaked (yet)

Regards,

look at Supernatural on CW (sure CW is a weak network so numbers we talk about are different). The online following is probably bigger then there normal TV viewing and network respect this. Also it's comes on Thursday in arguably the hardest timeslots on TV. In this timeslot it still pulls in 3.2 and that number is raising. They know there nothing else they can put there to due better because it has a hardcore following that is growing.. but most there viewers are all 18-34 and watch a lot from downloads.

CBS is lucky to have a CULT following TV show and should keep it around even as a filler mid season replacement of 10-15 episodes even until catches on more and more then can become a regular (this is a worse case scenario)

Just to say my piece, we need to remember a few things when talking about cancellations. First Jericho ratings at 6.9 before Tivo isn't bad. Espically since the first 3 episodes have been watched long ago. Now if Jericho has a big online following then thats a lot more viewers and can really catapult CBS online viewing section if needed. Remember in 3 years writers getting money for online content (so that is coming soon). Secondly, CBS knows Jericho has a Cult following meaning number will not go down and can only grow this is huge reason x-files stayed around til it caught on because number steady out just grew and they new they always count on it, and when you think about it that way guaranteed 7 million + more due to tivo better then trying a new rushed show because of the strike. Also Jericho took a massive budget cut so viewers don't need to be as high to get profit from the show. I think next week show is huge basically the midway point and hasn't been leaked (yet)

Regards,

Is this a valid point?

“Quincy Smith, who runs CBS’ new media division, says the size of the audiences on Veoh (etc) are getting close to what some shows are receiving on broadcast television. While he declined to cite specifics, he said the post-apocalyptic drama Jericho has a bigger online audience than it does on traditional TV.”