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Sometimes It’s Over Before Carol Barbee Says It’s Over

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March 27th, 2008

Skeet Ulrich, Lennie James and Carol Barbee in Happier TimesThis is one of those times. And I'll up the ante of a dozen roses and twelve pounds of nuts to also include washing her car and doing her landscaping work for a year if I'm wrong. But it's over. I could see a direct to DVD movie a la what Stargate: SG1 did with "Ark of the Truth". BTW, I haven't been pimping that DVD on our site largely because it wasn't very good. I mean it was OK, and it was good to see the first team in action again, and it was nice to get closure on the story, but it wasn't very good.

Ok, back to Jericho. It's not coming back. The fat lady has sung, only Carol Barbee must have in the earplugs or, she's like me and has her iPod earbuds in at all times and is effectively saying to the world, "La la la la la, I'm not listening to you!" Sometimes that's a pretty grand thing to do. Thank you, Steve Jobs! Best earbuds ever. Just the generic ones that come with the iPod and the iPhone - none of the "cost extra" stuff, even the ones sold by Apple are better in my estimation.

It could well be that in 10 years from now, Barbee will still be saying, "we're looking at doing something...." But just because you declare something isn't over doesn't mean it isn't. Combing the net and making a few phone calls it would seem that apparently the budget for Jericho was about twice that of your average show being made on the SciFi channel. I would be much more optimistic if it had been 25% more expensive or even 50%, but when you get to the 100% level, that's not good.

It would be different if it started on the SciFi channel at half the budget and then migrated to broadcast - that's a whole lot easier to pull off.

While I am perhaps not the "average" Jericho fan, I don't think I'm alone in thinking that if Skeet Ulrich and Lennie James aren't part of the ensemble, I won't be watching no matter where they put the show. I'd prefer it if they could keep Esai Morales as well - I liked the Beck character a lot.

And here's where the problem comes in. The show has been cancelled. No new deal has been done.

What's bound to happen soon: Lennie James, Esai Morales, and Skeet Ulrich are going to get, you guessed it, JOB OFFERS. Because they're good actors. I think Brad Beyer and Alicia Coppola (no relation to Francis Ford Coppola, so she's not getting props simply because GF1 and GF2 are like my favorite movies of all time) were great, too.

Skeet, Lennie , Esai, Brad, Alicia and all the rest of the cast: they can't exist on the nuts fans will send them. They have to eat, and live, and they like their craft I imagine. Especially in the cases of Esai, Lennie and Skeet, they're not going to want to take a huge pay cut. And if they're cut out of the show altogether? There is no show.

One thing that is absolutely, definitely, one hundred percent NOT going to happen is for Jericho to move to the CW. I know I myself pitched that a while back, but it's not happening. CBS has operational control over the CW (and Warner, although it gave CBS this control is now not happy about it apparently). CBS called "game over" for Jericho. If it was going to wind up on the C-dub, they'd have aired the cliffhanger and then announced with the ‘voice of God', "Catch an all new Jericho next fall on the CW!" That's not what happened though. What happened is CBS cancelled the show altogether. The CW is not happening for Jericho.

I don't believe the SciFi channel, or any other network will either. I understand that like the fans, Carol Barbee wishes this were not the case. I don't blame her. But as Patrick Stewart once uttered in the role of Jean-Luc Picard, "Wishing for a thing does not make it so."

To stay with the Jean-Luc theme, resistance is futile. Jericho, sad as it is. Is over. Even though Barbee hasn't copped to that yet.

Ms. Barbee, if it turns out I'm wrong, in another incarnation I spent 7 years working on a golf course. I'm pretty good with a lawnmower.

For fans who don't care that wishing for a thing doesn't make it so, you can join Carol Barbee in her wishful thinking by listening to her interview with Shaun Daily on Blog Talk Radio.

Farewell, Jericho, you will be missed! But it's over. It won't break my heart to be wrong here, even if it means I'm going to have to redevelop calloused hands. But, obviously, I don't think I'm wrong.

But as Gorman loves to say, "Often wrong, never in doubt..." I do live up to that pretty well, and will be the first to admit that as much as I love speculating and prognosticating, and as often as I am right...often right isn't always right. But I feel strongly enough that I'm willing to risk the flowers, nuts, car washing and landscaping services.

 
  • KIC

    So what is your problem? EVeryone knows its a slim chance, but if Paramount IS still talking its not a done deal. Do you just enjoy p*ssing in Wheaties in the mornings?

  • KIC

    So what is your problem? EVeryone knows its a slim chance, but if Paramount IS still talking its not a done deal. Do you just enjoy p*ssing in Wheaties in the mornings?

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    I enjoy prognosticating and being right. If I am wrong here, I will be delighted.

    But, I'm not wrong. Yet. ;)

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    I enjoy prognosticating and being right. If I am wrong here, I will be delighted.

    But, I’m not wrong. Yet. ;)

  • KIC

    My point is you seem to DELIGHT in going to extra lengths to just rub the noses of anyone who believes this could have a chance in mud. It's just sad and while I think some of your site is interesting, I guess I'll vacate now. I see all I do is give you fodder to take pot shots at anyone who isn't some buddy.

  • KIC

    My point is you seem to DELIGHT in going to extra lengths to just rub the noses of anyone who believes this could have a chance in mud. It’s just sad and while I think some of your site is interesting, I guess I’ll vacate now. I see all I do is give you fodder to take pot shots at anyone who isn’t some buddy.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    KIC, you're of course free to do whatever you want, including starting your own blog where you do nothing but focus on how wrong I am.

    I'm writing about it because it's of topical interest right now. Short of “new news”, which aside from the availability of the unaired cliffhanger I doubt will be forthcoming, the above is likely my LAST post ever about Jericho.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    KIC, you’re of course free to do whatever you want, including starting your own blog where you do nothing but focus on how wrong I am.

    I’m writing about it because it’s of topical interest right now. Short of “new news”, which aside from the availability of the unaired cliffhanger I doubt will be forthcoming, the above is likely my LAST post ever about Jericho.

  • dwcarless

    MSM still doesn't get it. It is not a “Carol Barbee wish”. It is a 6 million viewer demand.

    Some viewers are no longer passive sheep content to consume whatever the network decides to shovel out. Paramount knows this, which is why they are actively shopping Jericho. And as far as cable budgets, Jericho and its current acting staff can survive quite well on a “Battlestar Galatica” type payroll.

    Robert, you are not really dissing Carol here, but the millions of fans that brought back Jericho once already, through sheer force of collective will. I hope that you have sponges and towels ready, because that's a LOT of cars to wash.

    And a quick note: You DID get the Star Trek quote right. But you got the ending wrong. You might want to rewatch that episode again ;)

  • dwcarless

    MSM still doesn’t get it. It is not a “Carol Barbee wish”. It is a 6 million viewer demand.

    Some viewers are no longer passive sheep content to consume whatever the network decides to shovel out. Paramount knows this, which is why they are actively shopping Jericho. And as far as cable budgets, Jericho and its current acting staff can survive quite well on a “Battlestar Galatica” type payroll.

    Robert, you are not really dissing Carol here, but the millions of fans that brought back Jericho once already, through sheer force of collective will. I hope that you have sponges and towels ready, because that’s a LOT of cars to wash.

    And a quick note: You DID get the Star Trek quote right. But you got the ending wrong. You might want to rewatch that episode again ;)

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    Dwcarless: I submit that millions of fans did not bring back Jericho, but rather “tens of thousands” of very loyal fans. It seems the season one DVD did not sell even a million copies but I can't validate those numbers with a reliable source so like everything else above that is speculation.

    I'm ripe to rewatch TNG though…good call!

    P.S. you think of this blog as MSM?!

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    Dwcarless: I submit that millions of fans did not bring back Jericho, but rather “tens of thousands” of very loyal fans. It seems the season one DVD did not sell even a million copies but I can’t validate those numbers with a reliable source so like everything else above that is speculation.

    I’m ripe to rewatch TNG though…good call!

    P.S. you think of this blog as MSM?!

  • Laine

    So the non-switch to the CW or Sci-Fi comes down to some idiot's ego at CBS? “I killed this show and IT WILL stay dead?” Not a single one of them ever took a business theory class, did they?

    “Often wrong, never in doubt…”

    Ha – I have a similar thought stitched on a pillow. An astrologer friend gave it to me for being born in February.

  • Laine

    So the non-switch to the CW or Sci-Fi comes down to some idiot’s ego at CBS? “I killed this show and IT WILL stay dead?” Not a single one of them ever took a business theory class, did they?

    “Often wrong, never in doubt…”

    Ha – I have a similar thought stitched on a pillow. An astrologer friend gave it to me for being born in February.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    Laine, in the case of CBS that might be the case (if they wanted it to be on the CW, they could have made that happen). Keep in mind though the CW is focusing on the 18-34 (particularly female) demo and they might not have seen it as a good fit.

    If SciFi wants to do the show, I don't think it's about egos. My rationale (wrong or not) for thinking it won't wind up on SciFi comes down to $$ not egos.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    Laine, in the case of CBS that might be the case (if they wanted it to be on the CW, they could have made that happen). Keep in mind though the CW is focusing on the 18-34 (particularly female) demo and they might not have seen it as a good fit.

    If SciFi wants to do the show, I don’t think it’s about egos. My rationale (wrong or not) for thinking it won’t wind up on SciFi comes down to $$ not egos.

  • http://www.crisscrossmania.com/ jerichofan12

    Do you believe in Hope at all?

  • http://www.crisscrossmania.com/ jerichofan12

    Do you believe in Hope at all?

  • Kramer

    Since when did maybe 2000 hardcore fans become 6 million? Do these fans really believe that all 6 million viewers will boycott CBS or even really have a problem with the show being canceled? There's much more to life than TV, really. I am one of the 6 million fans, but it was just entertainment. I'll watch something else now instead, whether it's on CBS or cable. I'm really enjoying that new John Adams mini-series on HBO.

  • Kramer

    Since when did maybe 2000 hardcore fans become 6 million? Do these fans really believe that all 6 million viewers will boycott CBS or even really have a problem with the show being canceled? There’s much more to life than TV, really. I am one of the 6 million fans, but it was just entertainment. I’ll watch something else now instead, whether it’s on CBS or cable. I’m really enjoying that new John Adams mini-series on HBO.

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