Comments on: "Hockeytown USA" Title Up For Grabs? http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:09:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: rays15 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-265181 rays15 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:57:23 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-265181 Mr. Seidman obviously doesn't realize that Detroit is a bordeer city with Canada. Long-time Detroit hockey fans watch CBC's Hockey Night in Canada coverage of the Cup finals -- not NBC. CBS can be picked up over the air from across the river in Canada and is carried on most southeast Michigan cable networks. In addition, with the Pistons and Red Wings playing the same night, many fans went to sports bars with multiple screens that carried both games -- I don't believe Nielsen numbers pick up the out-of-home bar viewers. Mr. Seidman obviously doesn't realize that Detroit is a bordeer city with Canada. Long-time Detroit hockey fans watch CBC's Hockey Night in Canada coverage of the Cup finals — not NBC. CBS can be picked up over the air from across the river in Canada and is carried on most southeast Michigan cable networks. In addition, with the Pistons and Red Wings playing the same night, many fans went to sports bars with multiple screens that carried both games — I don't believe Nielsen numbers pick up the out-of-home bar viewers.

]]> By: rays15 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-14893 rays15 Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:57:23 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-14893 Mr. Seidman obviously doesn't realize that Detroit is a bordeer city with Canada. Long-time Detroit hockey fans watch CBC's Hockey Night in Canada coverage of the Cup finals -- not NBC. CBS can be picked up over the air from across the river in Canada and is carried on most southeast Michigan cable networks. In addition, with the Pistons and Red Wings playing the same night, many fans went to sports bars with multiple screens that carried both games -- I don't believe Nielsen numbers pick up the out-of-home bar viewers. Mr. Seidman obviously doesn't realize that Detroit is a bordeer city with Canada. Long-time Detroit hockey fans watch CBC's Hockey Night in Canada coverage of the Cup finals — not NBC. CBS can be picked up over the air from across the river in Canada and is carried on most southeast Michigan cable networks. In addition, with the Pistons and Red Wings playing the same night, many fans went to sports bars with multiple screens that carried both games — I don't believe Nielsen numbers pick up the out-of-home bar viewers.

]]> By: The Ice Sheet: They’re Still Playing Hockey | Sportsaholic Daily http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-12380 The Ice Sheet: They’re Still Playing Hockey | Sportsaholic Daily Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:19:32 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-12380 [...] some idiot thinks that Pittsburgh should be able to call themselves “Hockeytown” because of their television ratings. All bets are off for Saturday night’s contest when for the first time the Red Wings and [...] [...] some idiot thinks that Pittsburgh should be able to call themselves “Hockeytown” because of their television ratings. All bets are off for Saturday night’s contest when for the first time the Red Wings and [...]

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-14892 Robert Seidman Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:53:04 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-14892 Marty, thanks for the info. Had no idea they'd trademarked "Hockeytown" I'll see if there is some way to track down the CBC viewing for the local Detroit market simply because I'm interested in knowing what the difference btwn NBC and CBC is. I know you say "CBC is the only way to go" but if that's true it makes me wonder if the 18 HH rating the other night already included the CBC as 18 is very high by itself. Completely agree that if viewing is going on via both CBC and NBC it's not a fair comparison if only one is included. Marty, thanks for the info. Had no idea they'd trademarked “Hockeytown” I'll see if there is some way to track down the CBC viewing for the local Detroit market simply because I'm interested in knowing what the difference btwn NBC and CBC is. I know you say “CBC is the only way to go” but if that's true it makes me wonder if the 18 HH rating the other night already included the CBC as 18 is very high by itself. Completely agree that if viewing is going on via both CBC and NBC it's not a fair comparison if only one is included.

]]> By: Marty http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-14891 Marty Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:40:54 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-14891 "Hockeytown" isn't a title that can be won or lost. It's an Olympia Entertainment (parent company of Red Wings) trademark. Pittsburgh would have better luck becoming the new "Home Of The Whopper."<br><br>Besides, if your team almost left town a year ago, you're just being silly contesting for any national recognition that your town is the best place for hockey in the USA. Especially when the city that currently holds that trademark has won 4 Stanley Cups in the past 11 years. Yes, I counted 2008, too.<br><br>As far as ratings go, as everyone else has already pointed out, CBC is the only way to go for hockey in Detroit. Your Nielsen ratings, I'm sure, only account for Detroiters who get their television via satellite, which doesn't carry CBC like the local cable companies do. I'm not going to belabor the point, but I think you probably realize after some of the responses to your blog that Nielsens are inaccurate in this discussion due to the fact that most of us here near the Canadian border in Detroit have a long, long history and tradition of watching "Hockey Night In Canada." “Hockeytown” isn't a title that can be won or lost. It's an Olympia Entertainment (parent company of Red Wings) trademark. Pittsburgh would have better luck becoming the new “Home Of The Whopper.”

Besides, if your team almost left town a year ago, you're just being silly contesting for any national recognition that your town is the best place for hockey in the USA. Especially when the city that currently holds that trademark has won 4 Stanley Cups in the past 11 years. Yes, I counted 2008, too.

As far as ratings go, as everyone else has already pointed out, CBC is the only way to go for hockey in Detroit. Your Nielsen ratings, I'm sure, only account for Detroiters who get their television via satellite, which doesn't carry CBC like the local cable companies do. I'm not going to belabor the point, but I think you probably realize after some of the responses to your blog that Nielsens are inaccurate in this discussion due to the fact that most of us here near the Canadian border in Detroit have a long, long history and tradition of watching “Hockey Night In Canada.”

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-14890 Robert Seidman Sat, 31 May 2008 16:59:06 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-14890 John, I'm not sure that Nielsen tracks local Detroit market CBC viewing (not sure they donâ??t either), but I'm pretty sure we won't get access to it even if they do, so we'll just be comparing NBC viewing in Detroit with NBC viewing in Pittsburgh. <br><br>While I'm sure that CBC viewing isn't nothing, I'm highly skeptical that it's anywhere near as big as the NBC viewing was on Wednesday which was 18% of all households in the Detroit market (which includes all of the suburbs too), and 28% of the homes that had a TV on. John, I'm not sure that Nielsen tracks local Detroit market CBC viewing (not sure they donâ??t either), but I'm pretty sure we won't get access to it even if they do, so we'll just be comparing NBC viewing in Detroit with NBC viewing in Pittsburgh.

While I'm sure that CBC viewing isn't nothing, I'm highly skeptical that it's anywhere near as big as the NBC viewing was on Wednesday which was 18% of all households in the Detroit market (which includes all of the suburbs too), and 28% of the homes that had a TV on.

]]> By: John http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-14889 John Sat, 31 May 2008 16:47:17 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-14889 Factor in CBC and the ratings are much higher in Detroit's favor. Myself, most of my friends, and all of the sports bars I've been to prefer to watch the game on CBC.<br><br>I wouldn't be surprised if factoring in CBC watchers in Detroit would raise the rating over Pittsburgh. Everyone in Detroit gets CBC on basic cable (and some even air). Factor in CBC and the ratings are much higher in Detroit's favor. Myself, most of my friends, and all of the sports bars I've been to prefer to watch the game on CBC.

I wouldn't be surprised if factoring in CBC watchers in Detroit would raise the rating over Pittsburgh. Everyone in Detroit gets CBC on basic cable (and some even air).

]]> By: Ted http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-14272 Ted Sat, 31 May 2008 15:56:08 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-14272 Nothing else to do in Pittsburg!! Nothing else to do in Pittsburg!!

]]> By: garry http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-14271 garry Sat, 31 May 2008 03:32:32 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-14271 That is the English network. RDS which is the French Sports Network in Canada had over 800,000 one game and 680,000 for game 3 along with 2.01 million English viewers. Game 4 on Saturday should be high in Canada as it is the traditional night for Hockey Broadcasts. NBC gives the NHL Sat nites for the finals because it has nothing to lose because ratings are always a low nite except for the NFL. MLB is now staying away from Sat nites for the World Series for the same reason. If the NHL can maintain a decent rating after such a great game then they are truly making inroads. That is the English network. RDS which is the French Sports Network in Canada had over 800,000 one game and 680,000 for game 3 along with 2.01 million English viewers. Game 4 on Saturday should be high in Canada as it is the traditional night for Hockey Broadcasts. NBC gives the NHL Sat nites for the finals because it has nothing to lose because ratings are always a low nite except for the NFL. MLB is now staying away from Sat nites for the World Series for the same reason. If the NHL can maintain a decent rating after such a great game then they are truly making inroads.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-14270 Robert Seidman Fri, 30 May 2008 22:20:06 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-14270 We report on US ratings via Nielsen. I have seen the Canadian numbers via news sources though: it represents an additional 2.11m for game one, 1.89m game two. We report on US ratings via Nielsen. I have seen the Canadian numbers via news sources though: it represents an additional 2.11m for game one, 1.89m game two.

]]> By: blarg http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-302793 blarg Fri, 30 May 2008 22:06:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-302793 Wow, you're an idiot. Back on topic, it seems that no one is considering that many people are watching CBC for the games, which I don't think is being accounted for (or maybe it can't be measured because it's Canadian TV?). Wow, you’re an idiot.

Back on topic, it seems that no one is considering that many people are watching CBC for the games, which I don’t think is being accounted for (or maybe it can’t be measured because it’s Canadian TV?).

]]> By: kevin http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/30/hockeytown-usa-title-up-for-grabs/3969/comment-page-1/#comment-14269 kevin Fri, 30 May 2008 13:09:21 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3969#comment-14269 Pittsburgh. Detroit has a huge black population and they will not be watching hockey on Saturday night. Pittsburgh. Detroit has a huge black population and they will not be watching hockey on Saturday night.

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