Comments on: Last Night's Battlestar Galactica: BSG Meltdowns http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 03:08:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark Dykeman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-232825 Mark Dykeman Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:45:32 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-232825 The fight was good and overdue in some ways. However, I'm reading more into Natalie-Six's death scene than this fight. The fight was good and overdue in some ways. However, I'm reading more into Natalie-Six's death scene than this fight.

]]> By: Mark Dykeman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-15023 Mark Dykeman Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:45:32 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-15023 The fight was good and overdue in some ways. However, I'm reading more into Natalie-Six's death scene than this fight. The fight was good and overdue in some ways. However, I'm reading more into Natalie-Six's death scene than this fight.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-15022 Robert Seidman Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:12:04 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-15022 Marc, though I liked SG1 more probably, I've kept up with SGA and it continues to grow on me. I really enjoy several of the characters and the relationships they have with each other: particularly the Sheppard/McKay characters and their relationship. The cliffhanger episode to end last season was particularly good and I'm looking forward to the premiere too. I think you're right that SG1/SGA get no critical love because it's often campy to BSG's dark and foreboding. SG1 and SGA both have had some horrendous episodes too, but is the far more entertaining franchise for me than BSG. Marc, though I liked SG1 more probably, I've kept up with SGA and it continues to grow on me. I really enjoy several of the characters and the relationships they have with each other: particularly the Sheppard/McKay characters and their relationship. The cliffhanger episode to end last season was particularly good and I'm looking forward to the premiere too. I think you're right that SG1/SGA get no critical love because it's often campy to BSG's dark and foreboding. SG1 and SGA both have had some horrendous episodes too, but is the far more entertaining franchise for me than BSG.

]]> By: marc http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-13732 marc Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:51:42 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-13732 BSG has too many miss eps. Only a handful of eps this season has been very good, imo. I feel people underrate Stargate Atlantis just because it is not dark or dramatic enough. If you watched last season of SGA there were plenty of dark and dramatic moments to make a good show. I am so excited about next season of SGA which premieres on July 11th, that BSG is just entertaining me until the bigger and better starts. BSG has too many miss eps. Only a handful of eps this season has been very good, imo. I feel people underrate Stargate Atlantis just because it is not dark or dramatic enough. If you watched last season of SGA there were plenty of dark and dramatic moments to make a good show. I am so excited about next season of SGA which premieres on July 11th, that BSG is just entertaining me until the bigger and better starts.

]]> By: Mandi http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302865 Mandi Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:03:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302865 I'm surprised people haven't been liking BSG lately. It started slow for me, but then really picked up the last four or so episodes. I've been loving it and have been genuinely surprised by some of the plot points-- something that rarely happens to me while watching tv. But then again, I also loved Season 3 (the episode where the humans were liberated from New Caprica will go down as one of my favorite episodes of any television show) and didn't mind the Love Quadrangle of Doom, so maybe I'm in the minority. Glad to see the ratings are decent though because I still think BSG on a bad day is better than 95% of television at its best. I’m surprised people haven’t been liking BSG lately. It started slow for me, but then really picked up the last four or so episodes. I’ve been loving it and have been genuinely surprised by some of the plot points– something that rarely happens to me while watching tv. But then again, I also loved Season 3 (the episode where the humans were liberated from New Caprica will go down as one of my favorite episodes of any television show) and didn’t mind the Love Quadrangle of Doom, so maybe I’m in the minority. Glad to see the ratings are decent though because I still think BSG on a bad day is better than 95% of television at its best.

]]> By: Mandi http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302864 Mandi Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:03:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302864 I'm surprised people haven't been liking BSG lately. It started slow for me, but then really picked up the last four or so episodes. I've been loving it and have been genuinely surprised by some of the plot points-- something that rarely happens to me while watching tv. But then again, I also loved Season 3 (the episode where the humans were liberated from New Caprica will go down as one of my favorite episodes of any television show) and didn't mind the Love Quadrangle of Doom, so maybe I'm in the minority. Glad to see the ratings are decent though because I still think BSG on a bad day is better than 95% of television at its best. I’m surprised people haven’t been liking BSG lately. It started slow for me, but then really picked up the last four or so episodes. I’ve been loving it and have been genuinely surprised by some of the plot points– something that rarely happens to me while watching tv. But then again, I also loved Season 3 (the episode where the humans were liberated from New Caprica will go down as one of my favorite episodes of any television show) and didn’t mind the Love Quadrangle of Doom, so maybe I’m in the minority. Glad to see the ratings are decent though because I still think BSG on a bad day is better than 95% of television at its best.

]]> By: Peter L http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-13731 Peter L Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:25:17 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-13731 Ah, thanks Bill. I decided to stop being lazy and look for myself to confirm that. It looks like Razor counts as 2 episodes and there will be 20 episodes for Season 4 totaling 22. Ah, thanks Bill. I decided to stop being lazy and look for myself to confirm that. It looks like Razor counts as 2 episodes and there will be 20 episodes for Season 4 totaling 22.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-13730 Bill Gorman Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:07:42 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-13730 Peter, I cannot vouch for the information but battlestarwiki lists 20:<br><br><a href="http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Portal:Battlestar_Galactica_%2528RDM%2529/Episode_Guide_-_Season_4_Guide">http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Portal:Battle...</a> Peter, I cannot vouch for the information but battlestarwiki lists 20:

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Portal:Battle…

]]> By: Peter L http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302859 Peter L Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:31:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302859 Yesterday's episode was also my least favorite of the season. It had its ups but mostly downs. Ever since Lee left his Viper and became political every story around him has been fairly weak (starting with Black Markey in S2). The show used to be about the individual struggles of the characters to survive and live in their new world. Now it's become more about change and the character's defining features that we used to love have taken a backseat to their own revelations about their life (Adama and Roslin is not my favorite storyline, basically because I don't like Roslin though). I like the spiritual and destiny aspect of this season but they need to keep the spotlight off of Lee and keep it on the Cylons... Does anyone know how many episodes were ordered? I heard it was 22... Yesterday’s episode was also my least favorite of the season. It had its ups but mostly downs. Ever since Lee left his Viper and became political every story around him has been fairly weak (starting with Black Markey in S2). The show used to be about the individual struggles of the characters to survive and live in their new world. Now it’s become more about change and the character’s defining features that we used to love have taken a backseat to their own revelations about their life (Adama and Roslin is not my favorite storyline, basically because I don’t like Roslin though). I like the spiritual and destiny aspect of this season but they need to keep the spotlight off of Lee and keep it on the Cylons…

Does anyone know how many episodes were ordered? I heard it was 22…

]]> By: Peter L http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302858 Peter L Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:31:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302858 Yesterday's episode was also my least favorite of the season. It had its ups but mostly downs. Ever since Lee left his Viper and became political every story around him has been fairly weak (starting with Black Markey in S2). The show used to be about the individual struggles of the characters to survive and live in their new world. Now it's become more about change and the character's defining features that we used to love have taken a backseat to their own revelations about their life (Adama and Roslin is not my favorite storyline, basically because I don't like Roslin though). I like the spiritual and destiny aspect of this season but they need to keep the spotlight off of Lee and keep it on the Cylons... Does anyone know how many episodes were ordered? I heard it was 22... Yesterday’s episode was also my least favorite of the season. It had its ups but mostly downs. Ever since Lee left his Viper and became political every story around him has been fairly weak (starting with Black Markey in S2). The show used to be about the individual struggles of the characters to survive and live in their new world. Now it’s become more about change and the character’s defining features that we used to love have taken a backseat to their own revelations about their life (Adama and Roslin is not my favorite storyline, basically because I don’t like Roslin though). I like the spiritual and destiny aspect of this season but they need to keep the spotlight off of Lee and keep it on the Cylons…

Does anyone know how many episodes were ordered? I heard it was 22…

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302853 Robert Seidman Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:48:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302853 Angie - 1.2 is HH rating, not 1.2 million viewers, but rather 1.2% of the television homes. Homes does not = viewers and to make a long story short it's very possible that it could've had a 1.2 HH rating and still had ~2mm viewers on a live plus seven day DVR basis. The HH rating other than the spike for this year's premiere has been pretty flat since the second half of last year, and mostly a 2.0 or worse since the starting after the premiere of season 2. At least on a HH ratings LIVE+SD basis it has lost ~40% of the homes watching since the second episode of season 2. Angie – 1.2 is HH rating, not 1.2 million viewers, but rather 1.2% of the television homes. Homes does not = viewers and to make a long story short it’s very possible that it could’ve had a 1.2 HH rating and still had ~2mm viewers on a live plus seven day DVR basis. The HH rating other than the spike for this year’s premiere has been pretty flat since the second half of last year, and mostly a 2.0 or worse since the starting after the premiere of season 2.

At least on a HH ratings LIVE+SD basis it has lost ~40% of the homes watching since the second episode of season 2.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302852 Robert Seidman Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:48:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302852 Angie - 1.2 is HH rating, not 1.2 million viewers, but rather 1.2% of the television homes. Homes does not = viewers and to make a long story short it's very possible that it could've had a 1.2 HH rating and still had ~2mm viewers on a live plus seven day DVR basis. The HH rating other than the spike for this year's premiere has been pretty flat since the second half of last year, and mostly a 2.0 or worse since the starting after the premiere of season 2. At least on a HH ratings LIVE+SD basis it has lost ~40% of the homes watching since the second episode of season 2. Angie – 1.2 is HH rating, not 1.2 million viewers, but rather 1.2% of the television homes. Homes does not = viewers and to make a long story short it’s very possible that it could’ve had a 1.2 HH rating and still had ~2mm viewers on a live plus seven day DVR basis. The HH rating other than the spike for this year’s premiere has been pretty flat since the second half of last year, and mostly a 2.0 or worse since the starting after the premiere of season 2.

At least on a HH ratings LIVE+SD basis it has lost ~40% of the homes watching since the second episode of season 2.

]]> By: angie http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302851 angie Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:23:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302851 Robert, I saw on Battlestar wiki that Faith got 1.2 million (there's also a sad little graph plotting the demise of the show's ratings since the miniseries). I'm glad I am not the only one that became disappointed in season 2. After Home, I think it started going downhill. Then RDM jumped a year ahead and in a fit of anger, I bailed on all of season three. I tried to come back this season, but it's too boring for me. Apparently, the rest of the world agrees and has tuned out as well. http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/List_of_Nielsen_ratings_(RDM)#Season_4 Robert, I saw on Battlestar wiki that Faith got 1.2 million (there’s also a sad little graph plotting the demise of the show’s ratings since the miniseries). I’m glad I am not the only one that became disappointed in season 2. After Home, I think it started going downhill. Then RDM jumped a year ahead and in a fit of anger, I bailed on all of season three. I tried to come back this season, but it’s too boring for me. Apparently, the rest of the world agrees and has tuned out as well.

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/List_of_Nielsen_ratings_(RDM)#Season_4

]]> By: angie http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302850 angie Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:23:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302850 Robert, I saw on Battlestar wiki that Faith got 1.2 million (there's also a sad little graph plotting the demise of the show's ratings since the miniseries). I'm glad I am not the only one that became disappointed in season 2. After Home, I think it started going downhill. Then RDM jumped a year ahead and in a fit of anger, I bailed on all of season three. I tried to come back this season, but it's too boring for me. Apparently, the rest of the world agrees and has tuned out as well. http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/List_of_Nielsen_ratings_(RDM)#Season_4 Robert, I saw on Battlestar wiki that Faith got 1.2 million (there’s also a sad little graph plotting the demise of the show’s ratings since the miniseries). I’m glad I am not the only one that became disappointed in season 2. After Home, I think it started going downhill. Then RDM jumped a year ahead and in a fit of anger, I bailed on all of season three. I tried to come back this season, but it’s too boring for me. Apparently, the rest of the world agrees and has tuned out as well.

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/List_of_Nielsen_ratings_(RDM)#Season_4

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302839 Robert Seidman Sat, 31 May 2008 19:22:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302839 Seth, sadly we're lacking a consistent source for reliable data that includes the number of viewers. As it never appears in the weekly top 40 cable rankings, we don't see them unless I find them somewhere else. But, through the first seven episodes ratings for this season were up -- factoring in live plus seven days DVR usage it was averaging 2.1mm viewers through 7 episodes and 1.4 million 18-49 year old viewers per this article: http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/05/battlestar-gala.html Seth, sadly we’re lacking a consistent source for reliable data that includes the number of viewers. As it never appears in the weekly top 40 cable rankings, we don’t see them unless I find them somewhere else. But, through the first seven episodes ratings for this season were up — factoring in live plus seven days DVR usage it was averaging 2.1mm viewers through 7 episodes and 1.4 million 18-49 year old viewers per this article:

http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/05/battlestar-gala.html

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302838 Robert Seidman Sat, 31 May 2008 19:22:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302838 Seth, sadly we're lacking a consistent source for reliable data that includes the number of viewers. As it never appears in the weekly top 40 cable rankings, we don't see them unless I find them somewhere else. But, through the first seven episodes ratings for this season were up -- factoring in live plus seven days DVR usage it was averaging 2.1mm viewers through 7 episodes and 1.4 million 18-49 year old viewers per this article: http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/05/battlestar-gala.html Seth, sadly we’re lacking a consistent source for reliable data that includes the number of viewers. As it never appears in the weekly top 40 cable rankings, we don’t see them unless I find them somewhere else. But, through the first seven episodes ratings for this season were up — factoring in live plus seven days DVR usage it was averaging 2.1mm viewers through 7 episodes and 1.4 million 18-49 year old viewers per this article:

http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/05/battlestar-gala.html

]]> By: seth http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302837 seth Sat, 31 May 2008 19:14:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302837 When the hell are you going to give us an update on BSG's ratings? When the hell are you going to give us an update on BSG’s ratings?

]]> By: seth http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302836 seth Sat, 31 May 2008 19:14:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302836 When the hell are you going to give us an update on BSG's ratings? When the hell are you going to give us an update on BSG’s ratings?

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302835 Robert Seidman Sat, 31 May 2008 19:12:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302835 Jack, I agree -- I thought the final shot was nicely done. Lighthope, I've been disappointed since some point in season 2. Last year I thought was a complete disaster other than the final couple of episodes. This season hasn't seemed as bad to me, but it could be i've lowered my expectations. Jack, I agree — I thought the final shot was nicely done. Lighthope, I’ve been disappointed since some point in season 2. Last year I thought was a complete disaster other than the final couple of episodes. This season hasn’t seemed as bad to me, but it could be i’ve lowered my expectations.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302834 Robert Seidman Sat, 31 May 2008 19:12:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302834 Jack, I agree -- I thought the final shot was nicely done. Lighthope, I've been disappointed since some point in season 2. Last year I thought was a complete disaster other than the final couple of episodes. This season hasn't seemed as bad to me, but it could be i've lowered my expectations. Jack, I agree — I thought the final shot was nicely done. Lighthope, I’ve been disappointed since some point in season 2. Last year I thought was a complete disaster other than the final couple of episodes. This season hasn’t seemed as bad to me, but it could be i’ve lowered my expectations.

]]> By: Lighthope http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302831 Lighthope Sat, 31 May 2008 18:43:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302831 This season has not been one of the better ones, and that is saying a lot considering that the entire series isn't exactly a shining example of good television. It has its moments, but those moments are few and far between. My fear is that this season is going to become more self-indulgent, like the last season of Star Trek: The Next Generation did. They might avoid that, but the route they are taking is so esoteric that it's just as bad. This season has not been one of the better ones, and that is saying a lot considering that the entire series isn’t exactly a shining example of good television.

It has its moments, but those moments are few and far between. My fear is that this season is going to become more self-indulgent, like the last season of Star Trek: The Next Generation did. They might avoid that, but the route they are taking is so esoteric that it’s just as bad.

]]> By: Lighthope http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302830 Lighthope Sat, 31 May 2008 18:43:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302830 This season has not been one of the better ones, and that is saying a lot considering that the entire series isn't exactly a shining example of good television. It has its moments, but those moments are few and far between. My fear is that this season is going to become more self-indulgent, like the last season of Star Trek: The Next Generation did. They might avoid that, but the route they are taking is so esoteric that it's just as bad. This season has not been one of the better ones, and that is saying a lot considering that the entire series isn’t exactly a shining example of good television.

It has its moments, but those moments are few and far between. My fear is that this season is going to become more self-indulgent, like the last season of Star Trek: The Next Generation did. They might avoid that, but the route they are taking is so esoteric that it’s just as bad.

]]> By: Anonymous http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302817 Anonymous Sat, 31 May 2008 16:23:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302817 Tigh's face when Adama says: "You've found out a lot about yourself when you came back from New Caprica." Best. Scene. Ever. The fight was funny, but nicely executed, and the final shot with Adama's Rapttor behind the closing titles was very cool. Not the best episode, but, hey, it's Battlestar Galactica. I like it. Tigh’s face when Adama says: “You’ve found out a lot about yourself when you came back from New Caprica.” Best. Scene. Ever.

The fight was funny, but nicely executed, and the final shot with Adama’s Rapttor behind the closing titles was very cool.

Not the best episode, but, hey, it’s Battlestar Galactica. I like it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/05/31/last-nights-battlestar-galactica-bsg-meltdowns/3987/comment-page-1/#comment-302816 Anonymous Sat, 31 May 2008 16:23:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=3987#comment-302816 Tigh's face when Adama says: "You've found out a lot about yourself when you came back from New Caprica." Best. Scene. Ever. The fight was funny, but nicely executed, and the final shot with Adama's Rapttor behind the closing titles was very cool. Not the best episode, but, hey, it's Battlestar Galactica. I like it. Tigh’s face when Adama says: “You’ve found out a lot about yourself when you came back from New Caprica.” Best. Scene. Ever.

The fight was funny, but nicely executed, and the final shot with Adama’s Rapttor behind the closing titles was very cool.

Not the best episode, but, hey, it’s Battlestar Galactica. I like it.

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