Comments on: “Remote Free TV” For FOX’s ‘Fringe’ and ‘Dollhouse’: Will It Work? http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:06:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Les http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-23680 Les Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:47:51 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-23680 Very interesting, I dont really mind though as long as they keep producing quality shows like Fringe and Terminator I will keep loving them. Take a look for yourself http://www.watchingfringe.com/ http://www.watchsarahconnorchronicles.com/ Very interesting, I dont really mind though as long as they keep producing quality shows like Fringe and Terminator I will keep loving them. Take a look for yourself http://www.watchingfringe.com/ http://www.watchsarahconnorchronicles.com/

]]> By: Neil http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-258360 Neil Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:45:06 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-258360 It is an intresting move for FOX - one that could help serperate the shows from other newcomers (though these 2 shows are in fact so different from anything else on atm)<br><br>I just became hooked on these two shows - I've read so much about then and seem intrested to an extenet, by after watching the preview trailer's for both shows, iv just got to go WOW<br>Fringe is more likely the show to fly - it's slightly more mainstream than Dollhouse and has, in my view, more avenues of choice in terms of storylines....Dollhouse looks fantastic though, and im looking forward to both shows when the screen down here in Australia! It is an intresting move for FOX – one that could help serperate the shows from other newcomers (though these 2 shows are in fact so different from anything else on atm)

I just became hooked on these two shows – I've read so much about then and seem intrested to an extenet, by after watching the preview trailer's for both shows, iv just got to go WOW
Fringe is more likely the show to fly – it's slightly more mainstream than Dollhouse and has, in my view, more avenues of choice in terms of storylines….Dollhouse looks fantastic though, and im looking forward to both shows when the screen down here in Australia!

]]> By: Neil http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-14700 Neil Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:45:06 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-14700 It is an intresting move for FOX - one that could help serperate the shows from other newcomers (though these 2 shows are in fact so different from anything else on atm)<br><br>I just became hooked on these two shows - I've read so much about then and seem intrested to an extenet, by after watching the preview trailer's for both shows, iv just got to go WOW<br>Fringe is more likely the show to fly - it's slightly more mainstream than Dollhouse and has, in my view, more avenues of choice in terms of storylines....Dollhouse looks fantastic though, and im looking forward to both shows when the screen down here in Australia! It is an intresting move for FOX – one that could help serperate the shows from other newcomers (though these 2 shows are in fact so different from anything else on atm)

I just became hooked on these two shows – I've read so much about then and seem intrested to an extenet, by after watching the preview trailer's for both shows, iv just got to go WOW
Fringe is more likely the show to fly – it's slightly more mainstream than Dollhouse and has, in my view, more avenues of choice in terms of storylines….Dollhouse looks fantastic though, and im looking forward to both shows when the screen down here in Australia!

]]> By: Mike G. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-14699 Mike G. Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:25:35 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-14699 They don't want TSCC to be on against Heroes. They figure that a similar audience is interested in each show, so why have them go head to head? I personally preferred to see TSCC on at 9, but I don't want to see it get canned either. So, hopefully, this works out. They don't want TSCC to be on against Heroes. They figure that a similar audience is interested in each show, so why have them go head to head? I personally preferred to see TSCC on at 9, but I don't want to see it get canned either. So, hopefully, this works out.

]]> By: Carl LaFong http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-14698 Carl LaFong Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:21:41 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-14698 Don't for a minute think FOX is losing money on this "remote-free" stunt. Some or all of the "deleted" spots that would normally air in these shows will be sprinkled throughout the rest of FOX's primetime lineup. Don't for a minute think FOX is losing money on this “remote-free” stunt. Some or all of the “deleted” spots that would normally air in these shows will be sprinkled throughout the rest of FOX's primetime lineup.

]]> By: Jack_Shephard http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-14697 Jack_Shephard Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:04:20 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-14697 I don't understand why FOX put TSCC on Monday in the 8 PM slot and Prison Break in the 9 PM slot?! WTF? Why not the other way around? It was working this season. :-( I don't understand why FOX put TSCC on Monday in the 8 PM slot and Prison Break in the 9 PM slot?! WTF? Why not the other way around? It was working this season. :-(

]]> By: Outlander http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-14696 Outlander Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:44:55 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-14696 Awesome! But here's my question: What commitment does Fox have to trying to make a go of TSCC in the second season? I've seen almost no promotion for the show, and while they've given it a good time slot, I hope TSCC doesn't get lost in the Fringe shuffle.<br><br>(As a side note, I really like the concept of Fringe, but do not so much like the concept of Dollhouse. It will be interesting to see whether both shows take off...) Awesome! But here's my question: What commitment does Fox have to trying to make a go of TSCC in the second season? I've seen almost no promotion for the show, and while they've given it a good time slot, I hope TSCC doesn't get lost in the Fringe shuffle.

(As a side note, I really like the concept of Fringe, but do not so much like the concept of Dollhouse. It will be interesting to see whether both shows take off…)

]]> By: Jack_Shephard http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-13598 Jack_Shephard Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:38:37 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-13598 Oh, speaking of The Sarah Connor Chronicles, look at these lovely new photos of Summer and Lena. <a href="http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2008/06/sarah-connor-chronicles-set-photos.html">Photos</a>!!! Oh, speaking of The Sarah Connor Chronicles, look at these lovely new photos of Summer and Lena. Photos!!!

]]> By: ~ Anna ~ http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-302929 ~ Anna ~ Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:47:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-302929 The strategy sounds like a winner and so do the shows considering the names behind them (Abrams & Whedon). The only thing that makes me nervous about devoting time to these new shows and getting hooked, is the fact that FOX tends to be quick with the cancellation button. With "Fringe" associated with Abrams, I suspect it will be mystery upon mystery and question upon question with little satisfactory resolution by season's end -- provided it's even given a full season. Nothing more annoying than devoting time to a show that gets cancelled midstream with a whole bunch of open questions. At least Whedon knows how to balance questions & answers and offer viewers some payoff and satisfaction for their dedication. Unless FOX can guarantee a full season, and unless both Abrams & Whedon can promise to tie up loose ends by the end of the season in case of cancellation... I don't think I want to take the chance on these and be left hanging as we were with Firefly. The strategy sounds like a winner and so do the shows considering the names behind them (Abrams & Whedon). The only thing that makes me nervous about devoting time to these new shows and getting hooked, is the fact that FOX tends to be quick with the cancellation button. With “Fringe” associated with Abrams, I suspect it will be mystery upon mystery and question upon question with little satisfactory resolution by season’s end — provided it’s even given a full season. Nothing more annoying than devoting time to a show that gets cancelled midstream with a whole bunch of open questions. At least Whedon knows how to balance questions & answers and offer viewers some payoff and satisfaction for their dedication. Unless FOX can guarantee a full season, and unless both Abrams & Whedon can promise to tie up loose ends by the end of the season in case of cancellation… I don’t think I want to take the chance on these and be left hanging as we were with Firefly.

]]> By: Peter L http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-302926 Peter L Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:43:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-302926 I like the idea in general. I think the real important thing is that Fringe will be starting with House as a lead in. Although I don't generally believe in those, Fringe will get good advertising when House premieres so I feel as though more people will stay tuned in just to see what it's like in its premiere. The less commercials, the more likely people will watch for a longer amount of time and get pulled into the show. I also think it has good competition, going against a DWTS results show which is bogged with commercials, people may (who really knows) change the channel during breaks, and odds are, there won't be a commercial during Fringe. I like the idea in general. I think the real important thing is that Fringe will be starting with House as a lead in. Although I don’t generally believe in those, Fringe will get good advertising when House premieres so I feel as though more people will stay tuned in just to see what it’s like in its premiere. The less commercials, the more likely people will watch for a longer amount of time and get pulled into the show.

I also think it has good competition, going against a DWTS results show which is bogged with commercials, people may (who really knows) change the channel during breaks, and odds are, there won’t be a commercial during Fringe.

]]> By: Anonymous http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-302921 Anonymous Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:31:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-302921 This sounds like a great idea (viewers have to endure fewer ads, advertisers don't have to worry as much about viewers fast forwarding as much), but I'm not so sure it will work, especially with high-cost shows like these are likely to be. This sounds like a great idea (viewers have to endure fewer ads, advertisers don’t have to worry as much about viewers fast forwarding as much), but I’m not so sure it will work, especially with high-cost shows like these are likely to be.

]]> By: New Dollhouse Spoilers & Remote Free TV | Joss Whedon's DOLLHOUSE FOX TV series - FANSITE - Watching Dollhouse http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-12431 New Dollhouse Spoilers & Remote Free TV | Joss Whedon's DOLLHOUSE FOX TV series - FANSITE - Watching Dollhouse Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:24:43 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-12431 [...] TV By The Numbershas an interesting article on whether FOX’s new Remote Free TV plan will really work: I actually think that’s very doable in normal circumstances (assuming the show is any good). In its season finale, LOST, which is on the wane viewers-wise (although it had a strong year story-wise) for all the normal reasons that plague serial shows, plus somewhat wacky scheduling, had 6.453 million 18-49 viewers. So, when FOX thinks about break even with the Remote Free promotion, if a show like TSCC is the benchmark the 5 million, attempting to get to 5 million seems very doable. [...] [...] TV By The Numbershas an interesting article on whether FOX’s new Remote Free TV plan will really work: I actually think that’s very doable in normal circumstances (assuming the show is any good). In its season finale, LOST, which is on the wane viewers-wise (although it had a strong year story-wise) for all the normal reasons that plague serial shows, plus somewhat wacky scheduling, had 6.453 million 18-49 viewers. So, when FOX thinks about break even with the Remote Free promotion, if a show like TSCC is the benchmark the 5 million, attempting to get to 5 million seems very doable. [...]

]]> By: Kenny G http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-13597 Kenny G Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:34:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-13597 Thanks for the article - I think both fringe and dollhouse will out-perform Heroes. But it is an interesting strategy FOX are taking.<br><br><a href="http://fringe-forum.com">http://fringe-forum.com</a><br><a href="http://wathcingdollhouse.com">http://wathcingdollhouse.com</a> Thanks for the article – I think both fringe and dollhouse will out-perform Heroes. But it is an interesting strategy FOX are taking.

http://fringe-forum.com
http://wathcingdollhouse.com

]]> By: FringeTV http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-302920 FringeTV Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:33:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-302920 You're welcome. It is an interesting question. My sense is that Fox has turned over a new leaf and both shows will have a full season to prove themselves. I'm betting on <a href="http://fringetv.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Fringe </a> by the way. You’re welcome. It is an interesting question. My sense is that Fox has turned over a new leaf and both shows will have a full season to prove themselves. I’m betting on Fringe by the way.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-302919 Robert Seidman Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:25:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-302919 Thanks for the link Edward, it's interesting to see that there are several blogs/social networks pages, etc well ahead (especially in the case of DollHouse) of the shows airing. Also interesting to see they linked to the site which proposed a "Save Dollhouse" campaign (dollhouseforums.com) before the show has even aired... Thanks for the link Edward, it’s interesting to see that there are several blogs/social networks pages, etc well ahead (especially in the case of DollHouse) of the shows airing. Also interesting to see they linked to the site which proposed a “Save Dollhouse” campaign (dollhouseforums.com) before the show has even aired…

]]> By: Edward http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/06/04/%e2%80%9cremote-free-tv%e2%80%9d-for-fox%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%98fringe%e2%80%99-and-%e2%80%98dollhouse%e2%80%99-will-it-work/4023/comment-page-1/#comment-302918 Edward Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:12:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=4023#comment-302918 Well, I'm not sure it's worth speculating whether Fringe of Dollhouse will reach LOST's numbers (better to wait and see if they're as good as they should be first), but I think both will outperform TSCC out of the gate thanks to, umm, the nomadic tribes of JJ Abrams and Joss Whedon who will not only show up in droves for the premiers, but will stick around for as long as it takes for the shows to get good. This preexisting fan base is a factor Fox has clearly taken into account in their calculations as evidenced by their creation of the FUTURE ON FOX* blog which is not only heavy with 'Fringe' and 'Dollhouse' tags, but even has exclusive blogrolls for both shows. *http://www.fox.com/futurefox/blogs/ Well, I’m not sure it’s worth speculating whether Fringe of Dollhouse will reach LOST’s numbers (better to wait and see if they’re as good as they should be first), but I think both will outperform TSCC out of the gate thanks to, umm, the nomadic tribes of JJ Abrams and Joss Whedon who will not only show up in droves for the premiers, but will stick around for as long as it takes for the shows to get good. This preexisting fan base is a factor Fox has clearly taken into account in their calculations as evidenced by their creation of the FUTURE ON FOX* blog which is not only heavy with ‘Fringe’ and ‘Dollhouse’ tags, but even has exclusive blogrolls for both shows.

*http://www.fox.com/futurefox/blogs/

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