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	<title>Comments on: List of 60th Annual Emmy Award Winners</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, unfortunately we don&#039;t really follow those kinds of stats here, so we don&#039;t have any idea.  Sorry.</description>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides The Amazing Race has there ever been another series to win 6 consecutive emmys, in the same category?
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Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody think that the Emmys are now biased against network TV? I&#039;m not necessarily saying that the networks air better shows than cable, but the Emmys seemed to go out of their way to completely ignore network television. Given the ratings, I doubt the networks will even continue to air the awards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody think that the Emmys are now biased against network TV? I&#8217;m not necessarily saying that the networks air better shows than cable, but the Emmys seemed to go out of their way to completely ignore network television. Given the ratings, I doubt the networks will even continue to air the awards.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The show was simply boring. The hosts were terrible. The best part of the entire evening was Bryan Cranston winning. Not only did he deserve to win, but he was the biggest underdog in that category in many years. &#039;Breaking Bad&#039; (all 7 episodes) is a great show and I can&#039;t wait for it to return on January 20.

&#039;Mad Men&#039; won for last year and I dare say that new viewers might not get what all the rage is for the show as Season 2 has been lackluster. The real test of the ratings will be in two weeks when the hype has died down and we&#039;ll see if the &quot;new&quot; audience&quot; comes back for a second look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show was simply boring. The hosts were terrible. The best part of the entire evening was Bryan Cranston winning. Not only did he deserve to win, but he was the biggest underdog in that category in many years. &#8216;Breaking Bad&#8217; (all 7 episodes) is a great show and I can&#8217;t wait for it to return on January 20.</p>
<p>&#8216;Mad Men&#8217; won for last year and I dare say that new viewers might not get what all the rage is for the show as Season 2 has been lackluster. The real test of the ratings will be in two weeks when the hype has died down and we&#8217;ll see if the &#8220;new&#8221; audience&#8221; comes back for a second look.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The highlight of the evening (well, the twenty minutes that I saw anyway) was Tom Bergeron being hit in the crotch with a bat.  I did see Josh Groban who was marginal and that Laugh-In skit looked like they had never rehearsed it.  Terrible, just terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The highlight of the evening (well, the twenty minutes that I saw anyway) was Tom Bergeron being hit in the crotch with a bat.  I did see Josh Groban who was marginal and that Laugh-In skit looked like they had never rehearsed it.  Terrible, just terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wholeheartedly agree with the above comment. The presentation per se is to blame, not the nominated line-ups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholeheartedly agree with the above comment. The presentation per se is to blame, not the nominated line-ups.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So, really, it’s just HBO that’s killing everyone, not so much cable killing broadcast.&quot;

HBO has been killing broadcast TV for a while, but now FX and AMC (A movie channel!) are getting in on the fun, while TNT and USA are also making strong scripted dramas and comedies. 

It&#039;ll be interesting to see how Mad Men does next week with the Emmy buzz but also broadcast competition. I think it can still top 2 million viewers once again. And Breaking Bad should be interesting to see next winter, when it returns January 20. With the shocker Emmy win that could also top 2 million. All in all, AMC is off to one hell of a start.

As for the Emmy show, it was terrible. It&#039;s frustrating how all the great talents are forced to do such short speeches and get cut off to make room for that...thing of a performance from Josh Groban, or those...things of a hosting group. And yet tomorrow morning the blame for the terrible ratings will rpboably go to the winners, making the producers try some more desperate ratings ploy next season that never work. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, really, it’s just HBO that’s killing everyone, not so much cable killing broadcast.&#8221;</p>
<p>HBO has been killing broadcast TV for a while, but now FX and AMC (A movie channel!) are getting in on the fun, while TNT and USA are also making strong scripted dramas and comedies. </p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see how Mad Men does next week with the Emmy buzz but also broadcast competition. I think it can still top 2 million viewers once again. And Breaking Bad should be interesting to see next winter, when it returns January 20. With the shocker Emmy win that could also top 2 million. All in all, AMC is off to one hell of a start.</p>
<p>As for the Emmy show, it was terrible. It&#8217;s frustrating how all the great talents are forced to do such short speeches and get cut off to make room for that&#8230;thing of a performance from Josh Groban, or those&#8230;things of a hosting group. And yet tomorrow morning the blame for the terrible ratings will rpboably go to the winners, making the producers try some more desperate ratings ploy next season that never work. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and never mind my 3 out of 4 of ABC&#039;s are for Pushing Daisies. That count doesn&#039;t include all of the Creative Arts awards, just the guest stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and never mind my 3 out of 4 of ABC&#8217;s are for Pushing Daisies. That count doesn&#8217;t include all of the Creative Arts awards, just the guest stars.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other one you missed was The Colbert Report&#039;s writing win. But I&#039;m not sure what that category is called.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other one you missed was The Colbert Report&#8217;s writing win. But I&#8217;m not sure what that category is called.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Rickles... he was good.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from what I gather there were 27 major awards so I missed two others in the table in addition to the Mad Men writing award. I believe the missing two were in the &quot;Variety/Musical/Comedy&quot; category. Don Rickles won one of them. Of the top 27 awards, Cable took 17 out of the 27 (but as Julia notes, many were HBO, and not basic cable).  But Mad Men&#039;s victory as top drama was a first for basic cable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from what I gather there were 27 major awards so I missed two others in the table in addition to the Mad Men writing award. I believe the missing two were in the &#8220;Variety/Musical/Comedy&#8221; category. Don Rickles won one of them. Of the top 27 awards, Cable took 17 out of the 27 (but as Julia notes, many were HBO, and not basic cable).  But Mad Men&#8217;s victory as top drama was a first for basic cable.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia has a very nice list of all the winners and noms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60th_Primetime_Emmy_Awards 

The breakdown by network (including the less significant Emmys) is:

HBO: 12
NBC: 6 (5 for 30 Rock)
ABC: 4 (3 for Pushing Daisies)
AMC: 3 (2 for Mad Men)
CBS: 2
Comedy Central: 2
FX: 2
BBC: 1
FOX: 1
PBS: 1

So, really, it&#039;s just HBO that&#039;s killing everyone, not so much cable killing broadcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia has a very nice list of all the winners and noms. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60th_Primetime_Emmy_Awards" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60th_Primetime_Emmy_Awards</a> </p>
<p>The breakdown by network (including the less significant Emmys) is:</p>
<p>HBO: 12<br />
NBC: 6 (5 for 30 Rock)<br />
ABC: 4 (3 for Pushing Daisies)<br />
AMC: 3 (2 for Mad Men)<br />
CBS: 2<br />
Comedy Central: 2<br />
FX: 2<br />
BBC: 1<br />
FOX: 1<br />
PBS: 1</p>
<p>So, really, it&#8217;s just HBO that&#8217;s killing everyone, not so much cable killing broadcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sadly, the list was hardly comprehensive, plus I was hurrying so I could hang on Derek Jeter&#039;s every final word to Yankees fans.  I did reference the Mad Men writing award in the prose but somehow didn&#039;t get it in the table...oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sadly, the list was hardly comprehensive, plus I was hurrying so I could hang on Derek Jeter&#8217;s every final word to Yankees fans.  I did reference the Mad Men writing award in the prose but somehow didn&#8217;t get it in the table&#8230;oops.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this list seems to be missing best writing for a drama, which went to Mad Men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this list seems to be missing best writing for a drama, which went to Mad Men.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and yes, looks like Gervais is the best presenter so far (he also presented memorable speech moments). When it froze to the shot of Carrell taking his award, Gervais said &#039;look at his stupid face.&#039; He then proceeded to harass Carrell (in his seat), resorting to tickling him just to get his Emmy back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and yes, looks like Gervais is the best presenter so far (he also presented memorable speech moments). When it froze to the shot of Carrell taking his award, Gervais said &#8216;look at his stupid face.&#8217; He then proceeded to harass Carrell (in his seat), resorting to tickling him just to get his Emmy back.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many viewers this will get this year.

The ceremony itself is a total crock of s--- so far. The writing and the 5 hosts just don&#039;t gel at all. Even the &#039;glossy&#039; look reminded me of an (or every) episode of Dancing With the Stars. Set design was good though, heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many viewers this will get this year.</p>
<p>The ceremony itself is a total crock of s&#8212; so far. The writing and the 5 hosts just don&#8217;t gel at all. Even the &#8216;glossy&#8217; look reminded me of an (or every) episode of Dancing With the Stars. Set design was good though, heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough, but one of those broadcast awards went to PBS, which while technically broadcast is definitely in a different category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough, but one of those broadcast awards went to PBS, which while technically broadcast is definitely in a different category.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be fair to broadcast, 7 of those cable wins were for miniseries or movie, which broadcast really hasn&#039;t done much of at all in years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be fair to broadcast, 7 of those cable wins were for miniseries or movie, which broadcast really hasn&#8217;t done much of at all in years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather [insert the most unpleasant situation that comes to mind] than watch an awards show.

Looking at the list of winners, what jumps out at me is that broadcast TV got its clock cleaned by cable.

Assuming Robert&#039;s list of 24 are the &quot;major&quot; awards, broadcast received only 10 (and four of those were 30 Rock). 

If the cable nets start developing comedies like they have dramas, they could lay an even worse beat down on broadcast in the very near future.

Oh yeah, and as Robert mentioned, with the Cowboys/Packers &amp; the final game in Yankee Stadium on at the same time, count on zero 18-49 men having watched, and likely the lowest rated show we have data for (&lt;a href=&quot;http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/09/18/emmy-awards-viewers-vs-ad-cost-1986-2006/298&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;going back to 1986&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather [insert the most unpleasant situation that comes to mind] than watch an awards show.</p>
<p>Looking at the list of winners, what jumps out at me is that broadcast TV got its clock cleaned by cable.</p>
<p>Assuming Robert&#8217;s list of 24 are the &#8220;major&#8221; awards, broadcast received only 10 (and four of those were 30 Rock). </p>
<p>If the cable nets start developing comedies like they have dramas, they could lay an even worse beat down on broadcast in the very near future.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and as Robert mentioned, with the Cowboys/Packers &#038; the final game in Yankee Stadium on at the same time, count on zero 18-49 men having watched, and likely the lowest rated show we have data for (<a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/09/18/emmy-awards-viewers-vs-ad-cost-1986-2006/298" rel="nofollow">going back to 1986</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a very bad show. While slightly better than last year because it wasn&#039;t &quot;in the round,&quot; the hosts thing didn&#039;t work, and Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert weren&#039;t even that funny. Apparently the best part was when Ricky Gervais was referring to how incredibly awesome Colbert and Stewart were in giving Carell the Emmy last year when Gervais failed to show. But I missed that part anyway.

Oh, and ABC cut off the John Adams writer for saying that Bush is dumb, but they didn&#039;t cut off Paul Giamatti for saying the same thing. 

But the 30 Rock love made up for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a very bad show. While slightly better than last year because it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;in the round,&#8221; the hosts thing didn&#8217;t work, and Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert weren&#8217;t even that funny. Apparently the best part was when Ricky Gervais was referring to how incredibly awesome Colbert and Stewart were in giving Carell the Emmy last year when Gervais failed to show. But I missed that part anyway.</p>
<p>Oh, and ABC cut off the John Adams writer for saying that Bush is dumb, but they didn&#8217;t cut off Paul Giamatti for saying the same thing. </p>
<p>But the 30 Rock love made up for it.</p>
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