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Early Ratings: 'House' and 'Fringe' Beat Down by 'NCIS' and 'The Mentalist'?

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September 24th, 2008

Update 8:50am PDT: House, even though it was down to 12.143 million viewers easily won the hour among 18-49 year olds with a 5.0/14 (second place NCIS had a 3.5) and destroyed the field among 18-34 year olds with a 4.7/15 (Biggest Loser was second in that demo for the hour with a 2.2/7). Fringe retained a good bit of House's viewers with 9.651 million and had a 4.2/10 among 18-49 year olds (second for the hour only to DWTS w/4.5/11. Fringe also destroyed the field among 18-34 year olds with a 4.0/11 -- The Mentalist had 15.549 million viewers, but a 3.5/9 among 18-49 year olds, and only a 1.9/5 among 18-34 year olds... Bill will have the full overnight rankings up shortly...P.S. 90210 dropped ever so slightly below 3 million viewers... The full overnight post (at least the full data table) is now up here.

First...Felicia Day was on House! Not only that, we got to see her with the top of her head sawed off and her brain exposed. How cool is that? For those who don't know, Ms. Day was some kind of actress on some Web video shows, but to be honest I'd never heard of her until the Joss Whedon produced Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Though I liked Dr. Horrible, the thing that impressed me the most about her is her seeming love of geekdom and her participation on services like Twitter and FriendFeed. Though I haven't really followed either of those services in weeks, seeing her level of participation on such services over the summer was pretty cool. It seems that she is building a real acting career by leveraging the Internet and if that lands you next to Dr. House, you're doing something right. Congratulations, Felicia!

Ok, keeping in mind as ever that these early metered market numbers are very subject to change and that the data we'll see in the fast affiliate reports later will (while still being preliminary) be more telling...

CBS looks to have won the first real Tuesday of the television season with NCIS (10.6/17, household rating/share) a strong debut by The Mentalist (10.2/15) and Without a Trace (7.7/12). Dancing with the Stars easily won the 9p-11p with an 11.8/18.

A two hour The Biggest Loser had a 4.7/7 between 8p-10p. One of Mr. Gorman's favorites, Law & Order SVU finished third at 10pm with a 6.7/11, but will likely beat Without a Trace (if past history is an indicator) among 18-49 year olds.

House seems to have dropped a bit to a 7.8/13, but will likely still be very strong among 18-49 and 18-34 year olds. Fringe appears to have dropped even more -- up against the premiere of The Mentalist with a 6.3/9, Despite what appears will be many fewer viewers it's possible Fringe beats The Mentalist among 18-49 year olds. The question is, if it doesn't, will Fox continue to refer to Fringe as a "Smash hit?" Stay tuned...

And to show the CW some love, 90210 seems to be holding up with Gossip Girl style numbers (2.4/4) against the increased competition while Privileged is having more problems with a 1.7/2. Of course the CW is mostly interested in holding up in the women 18-34 demographic, and while we will see the aggregate 18-34 demo numbers, we won't see the 18-34 female numbers until CW shares them with us...

The full overnight post with total viewers and age demo breakouts will be posted as soon as we've seen the data.

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  1. richard

    Fox rellly having trouble this fall

    their comedies , new series perform poorly…(expected)

    The worst thing is, their established series(fifth grader, house, prison break , TSCC) all declined. They are off by about 20% comparing to last fall.

  2. Andrea

    The Mentalist really is a generic CBS procedural, but with a twist. What makes it work is Simon Baker. I’m happy for him after the “Smith” debacle.

    Question about DWTS at 11.8/8: how can the share be so low compared to its competition?

  3. richard

    Andrea , i think it should be 11.8/18

  4. Andrea, user error (with the user being named Robert) it was an 18 share. I’ll fix it, thanks.

  5. FrankJ

    The “science” and plot of Fringe is taking a pounding on some of the sites I’ve been reading. I was kind of surprised. I haven’t actually watched the show yet, but Abrams did so well with Alias and Lost, I expected this thing to be a hit.

  6. Doghouse Reilly

    Nuts. Privileged is a wonderful series and deserves better ratings.

  7. Cookson

    LOST is much easier to watch then FRINGE for some reason… I don’t know, I think it’s like Abrams is trying to make FRINGE TOO MUCH like LOST or something. Also the characters and story telling of LOST destroys FRINGE…so yeah.

  8. Andrea

    FrankJ,

    That’s what FOX gets for signing a series, pilot unseen. Just because it’s attached to Abrams, doesn’t mean it’s going to be good (and I think Abrams is a hack).

  9. Julia

    Any problem with Fringe is secondary to the horrible casting choice of Anna Torv.

  10. Frank, I have enjoyed Fringe and will stick with it. I don’t mind all the fake science because it’s a fictional television. However, there are a lot of crackpots in the world who reallllly believe a lot of this stuff is true (not TV fiction) and I imagine that some of the science pounding is from reasonable people who are upset that this show will only fuel the crackpots.

    Plot-wise its definitely not as compelling as Lost so far, but it’s more of a procedural than a serial (though there is a longer story arc) so I’ll give it a bit more time.

  11. Charles

    Ugh. Privileged keeps falling and I dont know why! Its a great series with a lot more substance than CW makes it out to be. The marketing for the show is horrible and will probably end up being its downfall. If CW didn’t spend all of their money on 90210, they could’ve had a real hit on their hands, like Gilmore Girls was.

    *sigh*

    Hopefully DVR numbers are large enough to make up for the absence of live viewing…

  12. clutz12001

    As a House and Fringe fan, I admit disappointment here. Still, for CBS, the Tuesday at 10 p.m. timeslot seems to show a significant drop-off from the 8:00 and 9:00 hours. Mr. Seidman, you are correct in the “past history is any indicator” comment not only for 18-19 demographics, but for overall CBS prospects in that timeslot. It’s the timeslot that “killed every show since Judging Amy (Roush)” for CBS. Time will tell – but I won’t be surprised if Without a Trace is on the chopping block this year.

  13. Cookson

    Robert,

    Yeah, the story telling is exactly like X-Files… myth episode one week, “monster of the week” the next.. but then there’s the “LOST” feel that it has.. and it’s not really working for me right now.

    oh btw, I’m dying for more LOST. lol..

  14. Andrea

    Clutz, WAT’s numbers are not spectacular, but not chopping block bad.

  15. Andrea

    Cookson,

    From what I’ve seen of Fringe, it’s trying to tell too much too soon. X-Files (which I watched from the beginning until the time Lucy Lawless appeared), took seasons to develop its mythology. Things really didn’t get going until the cliffhanger in Season 1.

    Also, what’s up with the medical McGyverism in Fringe? (I say this all with obvious bias).

  16. cesarrr

    CBS shold have never moved WITHOUT A TRACE from Thursdays 10pm (it’s initial timeslot when it premiered in 2002). BUT THEY KEEP TRYING TO GET A HIT ON THAT TIMESLOT. But it’s not just that, the quality of the show has also declined since last season.

    I din’t think it was possible to add more crime dramas to the CBS lineup, apparently it is.

  17. Cookson

    Well… I think basically every show is getting less viewers now. People must have learned to sleep a little earlier or something.

  18. Andrea

    Cookson,

    Mediaweek says NCIS is up in viewers compared to its premiere last year.

  19. I updated the post at the top with some numbers from the fast affliates, but NCIS had 17.718 million total viewers 3.5/10 among 18-49 year olds and 1.8/5 among 18-34 year olds.

  20. Julia

    Wow, that’s pretty big for The Mentalist, at least in total viwers. Will that be the biggest premiere for a new show this season, do you think?

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