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	<title>Comments on: Early Ratings: America Still Loves Dancing, Criminals and Crime Scenes</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>julia, the comments thing was inadvertent as was the 3 million for LJ -- both have been fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>julia, the comments thing was inadvertent as was the 3 million for LJ &#8212; both have been fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Comments seem to be turned off for the ratings post?

So is there any way that NBC can keep a show that barely premiered to 3 mil on the air? Even if they don&#039;t have a lot of choices of what to replace it with? I mean, so far this week, three CW shows have already beaten Lipstick Jungle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Comments seem to be turned off for the ratings post?</p>
<p>So is there any way that NBC can keep a show that barely premiered to 3 mil on the air? Even if they don&#8217;t have a lot of choices of what to replace it with? I mean, so far this week, three CW shows have already beaten Lipstick Jungle.</p>
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		<title>By: neps</title>
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		<dc:creator>neps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but Knight Rider was number 1 in Males 25-54 - at least they got that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but Knight Rider was number 1 in Males 25-54 &#8211; at least they got that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Criminal Minds was amazing last night!!! I am hooked on this show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criminal Minds was amazing last night!!! I am hooked on this show.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>half hour numbers for Knight Rider 7.192mm at 8-8:30, 7.408mm 8:30-9. It was 3rd among 18-49 year olds and fourth among 18-34 year olds for the hour</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>half hour numbers for Knight Rider 7.192mm at 8-8:30, 7.408mm 8:30-9. It was 3rd among 18-49 year olds and fourth among 18-34 year olds for the hour</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Not Disturb is funny....talented cast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Not Disturb is funny&#8230;.talented cast.</p>
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		<title>By: Gusar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gusar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Knight Rider was so beyond awful, words don&#039;t exist to express how. And this is coming from someone who genuinely &lt;i&gt;liked&lt;/i&gt; the Pilot earlier this year. No matter what the overnight numbers will say, I&#039;ve a strong feeling most of these people tuned in to check it out and won&#039;t return next week. If they do, the world is officially insane. Is there a chance we&#039;ll see half-hourly numbers for Knight Rider? Just for curiosity&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Knight Rider was so beyond awful, words don&#8217;t exist to express how. And this is coming from someone who genuinely <i>liked</i> the Pilot earlier this year. No matter what the overnight numbers will say, I&#8217;ve a strong feeling most of these people tuned in to check it out and won&#8217;t return next week. If they do, the world is officially insane. Is there a chance we&#8217;ll see half-hourly numbers for Knight Rider? Just for curiosity&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just goes to show you that not every special that does well should be turned into a regular TV show!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just goes to show you that not every special that does well should be turned into a regular TV show!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed, Julia.  Hopefully our day won&#039;t be as bad as Knight Riders&#039; (apparently America&#039;s Next Top Model beat it among 18-34 year olds -- aggregate, not just women).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed, Julia.  Hopefully our day won&#8217;t be as bad as Knight Riders&#8217; (apparently America&#8217;s Next Top Model beat it among 18-34 year olds &#8212; aggregate, not just women).</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh oh. More internal server errors. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh oh. More internal server errors. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Unique Breed&quot; list would be interesting. Seems like Lipstick Jungle, Dirty Sexy Money and Eli Stone would top that list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Unique Breed&#8221; list would be interesting. Seems like Lipstick Jungle, Dirty Sexy Money and Eli Stone would top that list.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knight Rider--how long can a UPN quality show last on major network TV?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knight Rider&#8211;how long can a UPN quality show last on major network TV?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Unmarried was very funny.  I&#039;ll be watching from here on out.  Hope CBS gives them a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Unmarried was very funny.  I&#8217;ll be watching from here on out.  Hope CBS gives them a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrea, yes it did, Lipstick Jungle was just barely above the death zone.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/08/27/the-renewcancel-index-our-predictor-of-show-futures/4800</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea, yes it did, Lipstick Jungle was just barely above the death zone.</p>
<p><a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/08/27/the-renewcancel-index-our-predictor-of-show-futures/4800" rel="nofollow">http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/08/27/the-renewcancel-index-our-predictor-of-show-futures/4800</a></p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emmy

american likes people singing, dancing , showing their talents , choosing one million dollars suitcase...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emmy</p>
<p>american likes people singing, dancing , showing their talents , choosing one million dollars suitcase&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Outlander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fox aired Bush&#039;s address both on its broadcast and FNC.

Knight Rider was so awful last night, it wasn&#039;t funny.  I mean, it was just...ugly bad.  I can&#039;t even come up with a fully coherent argument as to why it was bad, it was so bad.  What bothers me is that quality shows like Terminator aren&#039;t pulling absurdly better ratings than crap shows like Knight Rider.  But, I&#039;ve beaten the Terminator horse enough for one week. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox aired Bush&#8217;s address both on its broadcast and FNC.</p>
<p>Knight Rider was so awful last night, it wasn&#8217;t funny.  I mean, it was just&#8230;ugly bad.  I can&#8217;t even come up with a fully coherent argument as to why it was bad, it was so bad.  What bothers me is that quality shows like Terminator aren&#8217;t pulling absurdly better ratings than crap shows like Knight Rider.  But, I&#8217;ve beaten the Terminator horse enough for one week. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t LJ fall just on the right side of the bubble of the TV index?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t LJ fall just on the right side of the bubble of the TV index?</p>
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		<title>By: Emmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America still loves dancing??

didnt they get like a 14 on monday?? and now its down to 10.3.. in week One! over exposure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America still loves dancing??</p>
<p>didnt they get like a 14 on monday?? and now its down to 10.3.. in week One! over exposure!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Unmarried was wasted here. It really needs to be moved after 2 1/2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Unmarried was wasted here. It really needs to be moved after 2 1/2.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia, CBS&#039;s comedies are the only thing that gets them younger skewed audiences. I don&#039;t blame them for trying to expand them. As to how they went about it, we have the luxury of being Monday morning quarterbacks. ;)

My guess is that Lipstick Jungle was one of the unique (to last season) breed of &quot;keep it, because we&#039;ve got nothing in the pipeline&quot; shows that are on a very short leash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia, CBS&#8217;s comedies are the only thing that gets them younger skewed audiences. I don&#8217;t blame them for trying to expand them. As to how they went about it, we have the luxury of being Monday morning quarterbacks. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My guess is that Lipstick Jungle was one of the unique (to last season) breed of &#8220;keep it, because we&#8217;ve got nothing in the pipeline&#8221; shows that are on a very short leash.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia, I can only speculate re: Lipstick Jungle, but my guesses are some combination of:

1. it might have held some promise with women in the demos 
2. given the screwed up strike season they wanted to give it another chance
3. Ben Silverman thinks Brooke Shields is hot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia, I can only speculate re: Lipstick Jungle, but my guesses are some combination of:</p>
<p>1. it might have held some promise with women in the demos<br />
2. given the screwed up strike season they wanted to give it another chance<br />
3. Ben Silverman thinks Brooke Shields is hot.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to mesh a new comedy night with the standard procedurals was never going to work. With the state that most sit coms are in, I&#039;m not sure why CBS decided they needed a new comedy night anyway.

Can someone explain to me why NBC picked up Lipstick Jungle? I mean, the ratings were bad last season, and the show itself is unwatchable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to mesh a new comedy night with the standard procedurals was never going to work. With the state that most sit coms are in, I&#8217;m not sure why CBS decided they needed a new comedy night anyway.</p>
<p>Can someone explain to me why NBC picked up Lipstick Jungle? I mean, the ratings were bad last season, and the show itself is unwatchable.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, I&#039;m not sure -- if anyone knows, please chime in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, I&#8217;m not sure &#8212; if anyone knows, please chime in.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Fox air the Bush Address last night ?

thz</description>
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<p>thz</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does look that way...</description>
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		<title>By: Wopa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CBS sitcoms are DOA too.</description>
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