Comments on: Sunday Ratings: Desperate Housewives, 60 Minutes Win, CW Crashes

By: dennis

dennis — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:49:26 +0000

Do you have half-hour data for DH and B&S?

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:43:51 +0000

Josh, I just posted the MyNetworkTV press release on Smackdown ratings.

By: Josh

Josh — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:30:08 +0000

I guess The CW is kicking themselves in the head for letting WWE Smackdown go now. They could have just focused on Sunday – Thursday this year and let WWE have Fridays but nope they had to have Monday – Thursday with a different programmer taking over Sundays. This is comical really is. I can’t wait to see MyNetworkTV’s final numbers for Friday.

By: Julia

Julia — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:41:27 +0000

Thanks!

By: Holly

Holly — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:40:14 +0000

Julia, Michael Ausiello from EW reported that CBS ordered an additional 6 episodes of The Mentalist (3 short of the full 22 episode season).

By: Julia

Julia — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:38:19 +0000

According to the trackback on this post, Mentalist got a back 9 order. Was there a press release on that? Because the trackback doesn’t link to one, or any source at all.

By: Gleebo

Gleebo — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:32:50 +0000

At this rate The CW should be airing repeats of their shows from the week. Gives people a chance to catch shows that they weren’t able to watch or DVR due to conflicts in timeslot. Thursday nights and Monday nights are impossible to watch and even DVR everything I want to watch and was taking advantage of the repeats they were doing on CW Sunday until the company they sublet to for Sun nights started their programing.

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Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:13:19 +0000

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By: Anony

Anony — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:11:17 +0000

I was one of the few that watched the premiere of Easy Money. Mostly out of curiosity. I actually think it has some potential – but mostly because of Laurie Metcalf! She is really great here – doesn’t look like she can save this show alone. Not sure how much this company producing these Sunday shows will put up with these horrible numbers. I’m not sure if they have any other choice tho?

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:55:05 +0000

Wopa, thanks for the link. I had the Cartoon Network press release on our site already, but it maddeningly didn’t give the total viewer number.

3.9 million is, as Darth Vader would say, “Impressive. Most Impressive.”

Now I await the weekly Yoda vs. Spongebob deathmatch!

By: Wopa

Wopa — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:39:53 +0000

Cartoon Network Record Ratings, It Is, For ‘Star Wars’ Series
Lucasfilm’s CG-Animated ‘Clone’ Show Debut Draws 3.9 Million Viewers; 1.2 Million Tweens

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6602135.html?q=clone+wars

By: DenverDean

DenverDean — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:36:44 +0000

Interesting to note the jump in CC demos as soon as DH finished. (B&S also dropped.) I believe TAR is misused opposite football and after 60M.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:04:45 +0000

Outlander, I’ve seen no press release about Sanctuary ratings, but today has been a busy day for me for many reasons, so it could have slipped by.

By: Outlander

Outlander — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:52:05 +0000

This is off-topic, but, two things –

(1) How did Sanctuary do on SCIFI last Friday? I watched it and I think it’s pretty good – much better than I would have expected it to be. And I don’t think the casual observer will realize that the entire series is shot in front of a green-screen; the CGI is really good!

(2) Tonight is the (relatively) heavily-promoted Dodge giveaway thingie episode of TSCC… Limited commercial interruptions, lots of commercials, etc. Since I have lost my shirt in the stock market this month and see nothing but doom and gloom ahead, I’m going to valiantly stand for bullishness and good cheer and predict TSCC’s ratings will be up 15% this week. (Maybe if enough of us feel the same way, the power of positive thinking will make it so. . .)

By: R.J

R.J — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:44:57 +0000

Can’t beleve the simpsons and king of the hill and family guy droped. but it’s good to see American Dad doing better.

By: Gerry

Gerry — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:20:39 +0000

UNFORTUNATELY MOONLIGHT LOST ITS EARLY VAMP MOJO AND TURNED ITSELF INTO
A STANDARD PROCEDURAL.

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:58:21 +0000

I wasn’t a Moonlight fan. Didn’t even give it a go, really. But I really do sympathize with you folks. If the CW gets rid of Supernatural, I probably will mail Dawn Ostroff rock salt every week for the rest of my life. But, I would learn when to let go of the issue…on a public forum. It’s time to let Leo Dicaprio sink to the bottom of the ocean folks hehe.

By: Julia

Julia — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:52:08 +0000

Ok, let’s get something straight. Moonlight did not have 7 million die hard fans. It may have had 7 million viewers, but many of these were people who just left the TV on all night. And then it had a good number of people who did purposely tune in are not that devoted to it that they would pay any attention to where it went. The few hundred fans on the internet are diehard. There are probably several thousand more, and then whatever CW would be able to pick up on its own (which wouldn’t be much, since this is CW), and you’d be left with a couple, maybe three million viewers.

By: Pad

Pad — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:47:19 +0000

After reading the Plot for Valentine (and depositing my tea on the screen) Im not that surprised it arrived DOA.

By: deekshant

deekshant — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:38:47 +0000

What The CW needs to do is bring back Moonlight because Moonlight fans don’t care if the show’s on The CW or the food network.

Otherwise, even if your show is good people won’t watch it cause its The CW !

Are the CW guys really that dumb?

By: deekshant

deekshant — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:35:53 +0000

Did anyone even watch the cw? Their biggest mistake is putting Easy Money against Desperate Housewives. Switch Easy Money with In Harm’s way , because no sensible or should I say not-so-sensible 18-34 person will watch your CW show over DH.

I wonder how these shows would perform on any other broadcasting network.

What the CW needs to do is bring Moonlight back…which will ensure atleast 7 million people because the moonlight fans don’t care if the show’s on the CW or the food network.Are the CW guys really that dumb?

Even bringing Veronica Mars back will help ! (just wishful thinking…)

By: Mandi

Mandi — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:21:32 +0000

I have to agree with Julia– I saw absolutely no promotion for any of those CW shows which is pathetic. But then again, I don’t watch anything on the CW so maybe they promoted it on there? Regardless, I feel it has to affect the CW’s bottom line– if only to make it more difficult to sell off the Sunday slot when the Media Rights contract ends.

By: Johnthemon

Johnthemon — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:19:06 +0000

oh and American Dad! had an amazing episode last night.

By: Holly

Holly — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:18:21 +0000

Wopa, I don’t think shows like CSI and DH really go up and down that much. The reason for the big drops for DH this year and CSI last year (probably this year as well) is that the finales were major cliffhangers. Last year, people tuned into CSI to see if Sara died. This year, they tuned into DH to see the 5 year jump. It makes sense for viewership to drop for regular episodes after a big event episode.

By: Johnthemon

Johnthemon — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:16:56 +0000

wow, Simpsons is way down. Family Guy is down a good chunk as well. American Dad and King of the Hill are the most stable of the bunch.

As for DH, it’s good to see it taken down a notch.

CBS continues to dominate. Its definitely the biggest network right now.

Kind of surprising Football did so poorly. It usually is much more bullish.

By: dennis

dennis — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:15:29 +0000

Wopa: there is definitely something about that … maybe DH will be up next week, but I´m worried they will go under 15 million.

By: Wopa

Wopa — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:09:51 +0000

Big shows tend to go up and down.. just like CSI last season.

Season Premiere: 25.22 M, A18-49: 8.2
Second Episode: 20.97 M, A18-49: 6.4

that’s a drop of 4.25 million and 1.8 (!) in the demo.

By: Julia

Julia — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:02:38 +0000

Yes, the site staying up is the important thing!

By: Julia

Julia — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:01:07 +0000

Yes, now that I’m done with my whining (and figured out how to see the comments some way or other) on to the ratings.

I’m not even slightly surprised by CW’s ratings. Did these shows get any promotion at all? I don’t think we can do anything but speculate, but how will Sunday’s ratings affect CW? Since they don’t “own” the night, and these won’t be counted into their season’s average, I suppose it doesn’t matter too much, but shouldn’t it still reflect very poorly on them?

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:57:57 +0000

Gusar, thanks for the info, we’ll evaluate our options. I’m not sure why I can’t replicate the behavior (I’m also on windows and I can’t replicate this in IE or Firefox even) and I’m not sure we’ll change back as (knock on wood) the primary objective of keeping the site up and running seems to have been achieved.

By: Gusar

Gusar — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:52:52 +0000

Julia, I’ve observed your problem on my machine as well. And yes, shift+reload helps. Also, don’t blame the Windows machine, I’m on Linux and have this issue. It’s definitely something with the site.

On-topic: Wow, that is one big drop for Desperate Housewives.

By: Julia

Julia — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:43:45 +0000

Yeah, my friend says he sees comments, too. But I post and don’t see anything and then can see new comments in the comments column thingy, but clicking them just takes me to the top of the post and there are no new comments. Maybe if I shift-reload each time that happens? I’ll try that. (I’m completely willing to blame my horrible Windoze machine at work.)

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:38:34 +0000

Julia, there is absolutely no chance we’ll switch to Drupal. Drupal is a very nice platform, but it really necessitates having access to someone who knows it well and that costs money we don’t have. While it could be the changes I made with caching are causing your problems, I can’t actually replicate the problem you’re having (I see all new comments as soon as they are made).

By: Julia

Julia — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:36:17 +0000

You know, this not being able to see comments thing has inspired me to dig up this post about what Jon Armstrong used to make dooce.com able to open up comments: http://blurbomat.com/archives/2007/11/19/early-dooce%C2%AE-v6-nerd-faq/ This was pre-opening comments, but there have been several posts since then about how opening comments and getting over 1000 comments on posts has not crashed the server at all. Just a thought!

By: Pad

Pad — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:35:02 +0000

At this rate CW will have less viewers then the late night tiddlewinks channel.

By: sdffsd

sdffsd — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:32:47 +0000

^sorry about the double post.

By: sdffsd

sdffsd — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:32:15 +0000

Nice to see that “Family Guy” is doing well.

By: sdfsd

sdfsd — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:31:35 +0000

Nice to see the “Family Guy” is doing well.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:22:34 +0000

vitor, you are correct! I looked at the wrong column. Correcting now.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:21:38 +0000

clutz, the Steelers have been more successful more recently where it really matters to them than the Cowboys, the Super Bowl

By: vitor fernando

vitor fernando — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:20:58 +0000

the demo for DH is down by 1,2, not 0,1, it had 5,9 in the 18-34 rating and 7,0
in the 18-49

By: clutz12001

clutz12001 — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:20:02 +0000

Well I guess my little old Pittsburgh Steelers, and Jacksonville Jaguars, are not the massive draw of the Cowboys or the Bears eh? We were down a little over 3 million from the Bears-Eagles game. I guess I’m not suprised that the Cowboys are over 20 million viewers though. Very popular draw nationwide.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:18:46 +0000

Chris, at current levels King of the Hill is in no danger of cancellation.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:14:56 +0000

I wonder if King Of The Hill can survive with those numbers. I hope so as they are close to the numbers for American Dad except that FOX loves Seth McFarlane and it seems Mike Judge is moving on to other projects. Just wondering if they will get rid of King for Clevland if Cleveland does well. Also, I find it unsettling, but not surprising, that Family Guy is besting Fox Sunday flagship The Simpsons. I do understand that in 20 years you will see a loss of interest. Just random thoughs I would appreciated any thoughts anyone would have. Thanks

By: Bob

Bob — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:59:55 +0000

Not a good season start for ABC. I wonder how GA will do against CSI

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:55:06 +0000

Noteworthy indeed. And now noted!

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:51:22 +0000

I agree, DH dropping ~3 million viewers week over week is indeed noteworthy

By: dennis

dennis — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:43:46 +0000

Hmm, such a big drop for DH, they have never hit 15 million viewers in October …