Comments on: TV Ratings Monday: Dancing With the Stars, Two And A Half Men, Heroes Winners

By: Joon

Joon — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:22:44 +0000

Heroes is declining but it’s not going to be canceled. I mean just look at other shows from NBC. Besides football, there really isn’t a better performer.

By: angelscrest

angelscrest — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:09:03 +0000

Like Ike, I also enjoy Chuck and am sorry about its numbers.

However, it is coming up against Dancing With the Stars. I am a fan of both, and while Chuck is on, I watch that, and turn to ABC during the commercial break. When Chuck is over, I switch to DWTS for the rest of the evening.

I am really grateful that NBC is giving Chuck a second chance, and wish that they would try it at a different hour.

Here’s a thought! How about putting on Chuck after Crusoe on Friday nights?

By: Ike

Ike — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:35:06 +0000

These numbers for Chuck are very depressing. I’m surprised to find myself enjoying Chuck more than anything else currently on the air. It’s funny, charming, and clever. But with numbers like these, I wonder if NBC will rescind its full season order. The only positive spin I can put on these ratings is that it still beat T:SCC (barely) in the very lucrative demo of adults 18-34, and that its A18-34 rating beat’s DwTS’s *Tuesday* score in that same demo (though obviously not Monday’s) and is about the same as NCIS.

Ironically, lots of fans of T:SCC and Chuck are clamoring for them to be moved to Wednesdays at 9 p.m. (ET/PT). But if Fox and NBC were to act at the same time and move them both into that same slot, still pitting them against each other, the results would obviously not be good. They target a similar audience.

Besides the Fox and NBC Monday lineups, I wonder if other young-male-skewing programs are suffering this much compared to last season. What else does well with Men 18-34? This audience seems disproportionately likely to watch these shows on Hulu and/or iTunes and/or wait for DVDs. I hate to say it, but maybe Hulu needs to carry more advertising, thus reaping more profits to keep these shows in business. Just one commercial per break on Hulu probably isn’t helping much, money-wise (although it is delightful for viewers in the short run).

By: Batman

Batman — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:52:51 +0000

I think its bad for Heroes

Its their lowest viewers in 3 seasons!

By: Ben

Ben — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:07:56 +0000

Here in Australia, channel 9 plays two and a half men TEN, that’s right, 10 times per week. Monday 7pm-8pm, Tuesday 7pm, 8.30pm-9.30pm, Wednesday 7pm-8.30pm, Thursday 7pm, Friday 7pm. It was also their highest rating show last week for the Wednesday 8pm episode. Ridiculous. Occasionally, there are new episodes, but not this week, with all of them repeats. Why people, why! But the fad should die down, like it did with Ramsay.

By: deekshant

deekshant — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:14:48 +0000

I dont understand how people like 2.5 men, its not even funny.

Ha, HIMYM got more viewers than Heroes,funny …but sad…but funny.

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By: Jose

Jose — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:28:43 +0000

T:SCC had a great episode last night it was smart and thought provoking also the numbers have been very consistant even with the competition thats taking it’s toll on alot of shows for that hour and with dvr numbers raising and keeping steady shows that it has a huge fanbase the only problem i see are the casual viewers wich are being jerked from channel to channel i think the remedy for this is to simply change to timeslot there is alot less competition on wed night 9pm wich can raise the ratings substantially.

By: Rose Petals

Rose Petals — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:25:03 +0000

I really don’t know why FOX is still giving life support to Prison Break.This season and the plotline is beyond ridiculous.This show has become like a painful tick let it RIP,FOX lol.

By: Jada

Jada — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:09:20 +0000

I agree with the above posts .. Terminator : Sarah Connor Chronicles last night was amazing. I hope it doesn’t get cancelled!!!

By: Anthony

Anthony — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:38:15 +0000

Wow Vic you work on it?

Is it true Kring has 5 seasons worth of story?

By: Vic

Vic — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:55:28 +0000

I hope Heroes doesn’t get canceled. I work on it.!! But I don’t think it will.. it’s slated to do 23 episodes this season and we are already working on 10 and 11 so we are half way there. Some interesting stuff coming up.!!

By: Joseph H

Joseph H — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:44:04 +0000

Holly

Excellent. Thanks!

By: Holly

Holly — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:39:00 +0000

Joseph, The numbers posted here are the overnights that come out in the morning. What Travis posts in the evening (the numbers on that page) are the finals, and are more accurate.

By: Joseph H

Joseph H — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:31:59 +0000

Is this list the most up to date one?

This has different numbers…
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/434105561/p/12

By: Anthony

Anthony — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:08:42 +0000

Chad: Who? 10 million plus people.

How ANYBODY can watch things like DWTS is beyond me. The whole point of watching television is to escape reality…how can you escape reality by watching it?

You might as well film paint drying.

By: Chad

Chad — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:27:46 +0000

I would much rather watch DWTS than 2.5 men!!! Come on……who really wants to watch that show….. please tell me…. WHO? I love CODY!!!

By: tom

tom — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:55:18 +0000

chill out there johnthemon… i think there’s room for both lost and heroes to be good at the same time.

By: Rachel P

Rachel P — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:54:57 +0000

“FrankJ, When the aggregate demo 18-34 numbers jump at 9pm it means that more in that age group are watching *broadcast* TV at that time, yes.”

^And that’s why Terminator should be moved to 9 pm like it was at last season. I don’t know what Fox is trying to pull by having it at 8… unless they feel that it has a good enough draw so they put it up against some of the other top shows because they know it will at least get a fair amount of viewers. What I mean is, maybe they don’t care about it reaching its full potential, but instead would rather use it to really go head to head against the other programming so Fox doesn’t totally lose in that hour? Well, as long as they realize why the ratings are what they are and don’t cancel it…

By: Johnthemon

Johnthemon — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:42:32 +0000

Heroes is 25,000,000 times better than lost will ever dream of being. I’m really sad it’s demos are declining. Curse you neilsan families!

By: Doghouse Reilly

Doghouse Reilly — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:41:24 +0000

Last night’s episode of Worst Week was hilarious. I am very disappointed with its performance and cannot understand why people are not watching it. Heroes was also quite good (as was Chuck) and their performances are equally as disappointing. Boston Legal, as always, is a wonderful hour of television, no matter what anyone says. I cannot see either Prison Break or Terminator: TSCC coming back next season but I hope they manage to wrap up before FOX cans them. Is it too much to ask that the 1.5 million viewers who tuned into a repeat of Privileged on The CW are NEW viewers who will watch the new episode tonight?

Also, Friday Night Lights was seen by 400,000 last Wednesday (October 1st):

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=92120

And last week’s Raising the Bar (Monday, September 29th) was seen by 2.17 million viewers:

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/47810812/m/14810947?r=610102561#610102561

By: Julia

Julia — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:30:06 +0000

Gerry, there’s really no way to tell, but I’m sure a lot of them would go watch something on cable.

By: Rob D

Rob D — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:24:25 +0000

How much longer can CBS stay with “Worst Week” after 2 and 1/2 Men. Non laugh track shows just don’t fit in that comedy block.

By: Gerry

Gerry — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:53:15 +0000

If DTWS were to vanish what show(s) would pick up its viewrs?

By: R.J.

R.J. — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:43:26 +0000

Wirst Week Is Droping? WHY! It’s sutch a good show. It shon’t be geting ratings like that. And Prison Break. I Watch it on hulu all the time and it’s great. It’s the other shows that are on that is geting it serewed. The ratings will go back up when24 comes back.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:07:37 +0000

Lost has no people with other wordly powers so no it is not a ripoff of Lost.

By: Wopa

Wopa — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:02:59 +0000

Heroes ia bad ripoff of Lost.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:59:51 +0000

FrankJ, When the aggregate demo 18-34 numbers jump at 9pm it means that more in that age group are watching *broadcast* TV at that time, yes. There are other broadcast networks besides the 6 in the post, but they are insignificant in terms of audience.

By: tom

tom — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:54:35 +0000

i know boston legal is dead and people under 35 hate talking or reading about it but it’s doing pretty well imo. it’s been at 9 and 1/2 million for the three weeks. not dropping like most other shows. yes it’s lead in drop off is big but NOTHING has done well after dancing since the show has been on. that crowd does not stick around. it just doesn’t. and it hasn’t dropped from last season.

seems like with all of the new holes in the abc lineup… boston, even with it’s older demo, would at least be a good hole filler for at least the whole season. cause it looks stronger than opportunity knocks, pushing daisies, dsm, anything on friday, viewers wise it’s stronger than ugly betty, and i doubt eli will hold up even though i like it.

they definitely lost some of the younger audience when they shifted to more drama 2 seasons ago but it’s still a really good show.

By: Jack

Jack — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:32:26 +0000

Why dont Fox move Prison Break to a different night so that it doesnt clash with 2 of the biggest shows in America?

By: Julia

Julia — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:16:59 +0000

You brought up the death watch. Bionic Woman had further to fall in its plunge to the bottom. Will Heroes get below 4.0 in both demos? Almost certainly. Will it drop .5 every week from here on out? Almost impossible.

By: Andrea

Andrea — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:06:17 +0000

Julia,

I never said it was going to get canceled right away. Regarding, erosion: see Bionic Woman.

By: Julia

Julia — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:03:53 +0000

Heroes is not going to be canceled any time soon. It’s one of NBC’s top performers in the demo. You can start imagining that it the erosion is going to continue at its current rate, but that would be crazy to believe. In any case, whatever next week or the following week hold has no affect on THIS week, when Heroes is a winner.

(BTW, I can’t stand Heroes and wish it would be canceled, but my wishes do not reflect reality much of the time.)

By: Andrea

Andrea — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:03:40 +0000

Sorry, more coherently:

1982: Again, FOX thought Terminator at 10 mill last spring was average, and that was prior to DVR ratings.

By: Andrea

Andrea — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:01:37 +0000

Laseau,

So completely disagree with you!

By: Laseu

Laseu — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:59:30 +0000

P.B should be canned already it serves no purpose it’s not even entertaining anymore it’s just plain dumb.I wonder if the people from FOX fall asleep when watching the new season of that mess of a show!

By: Andrea

Andrea — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:58:23 +0000

1982: Again, FOX was thought Terminator at 10 mill last since was average, and that was prior to DVR ratings.

Life needs to be placed back on Weds at 10pm. I think it still has “life” in it–especially since it skews young.

By: Andrea

Andrea — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:55:08 +0000

Correction: To put Heroes’ fall into perspective, if it keeps dropping at a rate of .5 a week, it will lose its No. 1 standing in 18-34 to DWTS and 2 1/2 Men in 3 weeks. (Even worse than originally posted.) You might want to start a Heroes Death Watch

By: Andrea

Andrea — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:50:05 +0000

To put Heroes into perspective, if it keeps dropping at a rate of .5 a week, it will lose its No. 1 standing in 18-34 to Fuego in 4 weeks. You might want to start a Heroes Death Watch

By: FrankJ

FrankJ — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:49:08 +0000

Bill, what does it mean that the 18-34yr demo viewer share really jumps in the 9pm hour? Does that mean more 18-34 year olds are watching TV then or that they are just more concentrated on the major networks during that hour?

DWTS gets a huge jump at 9pm, and Heroes pulled in some good numbers there as well, but maybe I’m just not understanding how the household share breaks down.

By: Julia

Julia — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:48:31 +0000

Andrea, it’s not good for Heroes, but Heroes still wins the night in a coveted demo. It will likely come in the top ten in the 18-34 demo this week. How is that not winning?

By: Outlander

Outlander — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:47:54 +0000

I’ve heard that Heroes jumped the shark by having a bunch of time traveling characters and other silliness. I must say I would be surprised to see viewers switch from a scifi-oriented drama to a comedy (Two and a Half Men). But what do I know?

By: Andrea

Andrea — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:44:11 +0000

I agree with Bob, Heroes should not be considered a winner. It’s been dropping .5 in each of the demos each week, while 2 1/2 men has increased by .5 in each of the demos each week. Conclusion: The audience for Heroes is flocking over to 2 1/2 in massive droves. Very alarming.

By: R.G.

R.G. — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:31:40 +0000

Well…I noticed FOX pushing SARAH in 2 weeks (due to Baseball series) that they have no thought on moving SARAH to WED NITES…If they don’t move her by mid way of the 13 episodes then their would be no reason to move at all…last nights episode with the soft metal terminator was freaky/cool…but the DRAMA is really good – just the whole – save a life to lose the same life later to save another life was well written and explained…last night episode was by far my favorite.
WHAT ABOUT THIS DO PEOPLE NOT GET – Please FOX and especially viewers – keep Sarah from getting terminated by the meanest terminator of all…The Ratings!

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By: 1982

1982 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:12:59 +0000

John,

Both Terminator & Prison Break are off next week. The previews said “In Two Weeks”

I’m not so worried with the ratings for both of these shows as I was at first. They both keep holding on to what they have and when the DVR+7 or whatever it is gets factored in both usually are about 6.5 million. Personally I don’t think thats too bad when the night is so full of other programs, especially DWTS which takes in such a chunk of viewers.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:52:18 +0000

Be interesting to see the DVR numbers for Heroes.

By: John

John — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:52:13 +0000

still not good ratings for terminator. but at least its beating prison break so its not all bad lol. anyone know if its on next week?

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:51:01 +0000

Heroes was indeed down, as I posted, but still the demo winner.

If by inside you mean someone who tells me things others don’t get, no.

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