Comments on: "Mad Men" Will Return, But Will Show's Creator? http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/17/mad-men-will-return-but-will-shows-creator/6433/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:26:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/17/mad-men-will-return-but-will-shows-creator/6433/comment-page-1/#comment-28602 Robert Seidman Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:29:20 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6433#comment-28602 A, my read of things is that with or without Matt Weiner, a 3rd season of Mad Men will air on AMC. I will be stunned if it's without him, but we'll see. A, my read of things is that with or without Matt Weiner, a 3rd season of Mad Men will air on AMC. I will be stunned if it’s without him, but we’ll see.

]]> By: A http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/17/mad-men-will-return-but-will-shows-creator/6433/comment-page-1/#comment-28599 A Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:25:58 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6433#comment-28599 - I am <i>completely stunned</i> that the show’s ratings actually dropped for the episode that aired after the big Emmy win. I've always contended that to grow the show they need to make the show, especially the first season more accessible to people. The surge the show had during its mid-season was due to two things: reduced competition because other shows were airing reruns and showing a marathon of season 2 shows. I suspect that there is no single party here holding the cards and divergent interests are at play. Based on recent reports, it looks like none of the parties have contracts with any other party: the actors, writers, production company, the broadcaster. What does it mean AMC exercised its option to air a third season? No other broadcaster has access to the show? Is it an empty gesture? -

I am completely stunned that the show’s ratings actually dropped for the episode that aired after the big Emmy win.

I’ve always contended that to grow the show they need to make the show, especially the first season more accessible to people. The surge the show had during its mid-season was due to two things: reduced competition because other shows were airing reruns and showing a marathon of season 2 shows. I suspect that there is no single party here holding the cards and divergent interests are at play.

Based on recent reports, it looks like none of the parties have contracts with any other party: the actors, writers, production company, the broadcaster. What does it mean AMC exercised its option to air a third season? No other broadcaster has access to the show? Is it an empty gesture?

]]> By: Richard Weiss http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/17/mad-men-will-return-but-will-shows-creator/6433/comment-page-1/#comment-27910 Richard Weiss Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:26:36 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6433#comment-27910 Just a minute here. Recall that season 2 picks up 2 years after 1 ended and that much has happened in the duration. It's not that the show is reinventing itself, but that it is evolving with the times and the culture. Think of the portrayals in the most recent episode (which is near to the end of this 2nd season, only 2 more to go - need to fit a lot in before signing off?) as a marker for some of those changes - cultural, political, that were occurring during this time. In this episode alone, marching for Civil Rights in the south,Bob Dylan(and all that he was about to inspire)entering the public consciousness, the visibility of women in the ad world, likewise to the emergence of a gay man in that same world, the budding awareness of the sexual revolution ("I can tell you like sex, I do too")were all referenced and dramatized. The transition from Nixon to Kennedy has already been chronicled as well as increased awareness of psychotherapy and its availability. Does not Betty's emergent strength and assertion of her own choices signal a more "liberated" stance. In my view, Don's abandoning his LA work mission and going off on what may be both a personal and overall cultural / midlife flight or crisis was his (or society's) reaction to any or all of these phenomena, as in "I'm losing my bearings...I can't keep up...Where is my place in this new world? He didn't drop out with the "counterculture" last season, but his fling with the"jetset" now seems more in line with Don's lifestyle. And if he is panicky or anxious, does that lead to his effort to connect with Dick Whitman? Does he need to retreat and reconnect, painful as it may be, to get his life in order to move forward? (Whom did he call anyway?) No, I don't belive the show has lost its way. I do believe thet the show "gets it" and is striving to capture the moment, many moments actually. There was more going on than what was occurring at home and in the office. Mad Men recognizes this and goes beyond. I hope they keep it up. PS This is an original submission. Please post it! Just a minute here. Recall that season 2 picks up 2 years after 1 ended and that much has happened in the duration. It’s not that the show is reinventing itself, but that it is evolving with the times and the culture. Think of the portrayals in the most recent episode (which is near to the end of this 2nd season, only 2 more to go – need to fit a lot in before signing off?) as a marker for some of those changes – cultural, political, that were occurring during this time. In this episode alone, marching for Civil Rights in the south,Bob Dylan(and all that he was about to inspire)entering the public consciousness, the visibility of women in the ad world, likewise to the emergence of a gay man in that same world, the budding awareness of the sexual revolution (“I can tell you like sex, I do too”)were all referenced and dramatized. The transition from Nixon to Kennedy has already been chronicled as well as increased awareness of psychotherapy and its availability. Does not Betty’s emergent strength and assertion of her own choices signal a more “liberated” stance. In my view, Don’s abandoning his LA work mission and going off on what may be both a personal and overall cultural / midlife flight or crisis was his (or society’s) reaction to any or all of these phenomena, as in “I’m losing my bearings…I can’t keep up…Where is my place in this new world? He didn’t drop out with the “counterculture” last season, but his fling with the”jetset” now seems more in line with Don’s lifestyle. And if he is panicky or anxious, does that lead to his effort to connect with Dick Whitman? Does he need to retreat and reconnect, painful as it may be, to get his life in order to move forward? (Whom did he call anyway?) No, I don’t belive the show has lost its way. I do believe thet the show “gets it” and is striving to capture the moment, many moments actually. There was more going on than what was occurring at home and in the office. Mad Men recognizes this and goes beyond. I hope they keep it up. PS This is an original submission. Please post it!

]]> By: Richard Weiss http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/17/mad-men-will-return-but-will-shows-creator/6433/comment-page-1/#comment-27909 Richard Weiss Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:25:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6433#comment-27909 Just a minute here. Recall that season 2 picks up 2 years after 1 ended and that much has happened in the duration. It's not that the show is reinventing itself, but that it is evolving with the times and the culture. Think of the portrayals in the most recent episode (which is near to the end of this 2nd season, only 2 more to go - need to fit a lot in before signing off?) as a marker for some of those changes - cultural, political, that were occurring during this time. In this episode alone, marching for Civil Rights in the south,Bob Dylan(and all that he was about to inspire)entering the public consciousness, the visibility of women in the ad world, likewise to the emergence of a gay man in that same world, the budding awareness of the sexual revolution ("I can tell you like sex, I do too")were all referenced and dramatized. The transition from Nixon to Kennedy has already been chronicled as well as increased awareness of psychotherapy and its availability. Does not Betty's emergent strength and assertion of her own choices signal a more "liberated" stance. In my view, Don's abandoning his LA work mission and going off on what may be both a personal and overall cultural / midlife flight or crisis was his (or society's) reaction to any or all of these phenomena, as in "I'm losing my bearings...I can't keep up...Where is my place in this new world? He didn't drop out with the "counterculture" last season, but his fling with the"jetset" now seems more in line with Don's lifestyle. And if he is panicky or anxious, does that lead to his effort to connect with Dick Whitman? Does he need to retreat and reconnect, painful as it may be, to get his life in order to move forward? (Whom did he call anyway?) No, I don't belive the show has lost its way. I do believe thet the show "gets it" and is striving to capture the moment, many moments actually. There was more going on than what was occurring at home and in the office. Mad Men recognizes this and goes beyond. I hope they keep it up. Just a minute here. Recall that season 2 picks up 2 years after 1 ended and that much has happened in the duration. It’s not that the show is reinventing itself, but that it is evolving with the times and the culture. Think of the portrayals in the most recent episode (which is near to the end of this 2nd season, only 2 more to go – need to fit a lot in before signing off?) as a marker for some of those changes – cultural, political, that were occurring during this time. In this episode alone, marching for Civil Rights in the south,Bob Dylan(and all that he was about to inspire)entering the public consciousness, the visibility of women in the ad world, likewise to the emergence of a gay man in that same world, the budding awareness of the sexual revolution (“I can tell you like sex, I do too”)were all referenced and dramatized. The transition from Nixon to Kennedy has already been chronicled as well as increased awareness of psychotherapy and its availability. Does not Betty’s emergent strength and assertion of her own choices signal a more “liberated” stance. In my view, Don’s abandoning his LA work mission and going off on what may be both a personal and overall cultural / midlife flight or crisis was his (or society’s) reaction to any or all of these phenomena, as in “I’m losing my bearings…I can’t keep up…Where is my place in this new world? He didn’t drop out with the “counterculture” last season, but his fling with the”jetset” now seems more in line with Don’s lifestyle. And if he is panicky or anxious, does that lead to his effort to connect with Dick Whitman? Does he need to retreat and reconnect, painful as it may be, to get his life in order to move forward? (Whom did he call anyway?) No, I don’t belive the show has lost its way. I do believe thet the show “gets it” and is striving to capture the moment, many moments actually. There was more going on than what was occurring at home and in the office. Mad Men recognizes this and goes beyond. I hope they keep it up.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/17/mad-men-will-return-but-will-shows-creator/6433/comment-page-1/#comment-27770 Bill Gorman Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:24:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6433#comment-27770 Julia, exactly my experience last year. Once I got over the time period / setting (same as my childhood), there just wasn't anything there for me. Julia, exactly my experience last year. Once I got over the time period / setting (same as my childhood), there just wasn’t anything there for me.

]]> By: Ian White http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/17/mad-men-will-return-but-will-shows-creator/6433/comment-page-1/#comment-27758 Ian White Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:35:42 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6433#comment-27758 The wheels seem to be coming off this show. The story isn't very tight and the lack of chemistry just kills it for me at this point. How did it go from the brilliant final episode in Season One to the meandering mess it is now? Most of the people I tried to turn onto the show, have already changed the channel and moved on. The pacing was one of the most consistent comments from everyone. The wheels seem to be coming off this show. The story isn’t very tight and the lack of chemistry just kills it for me at this point. How did it go from the brilliant final episode in Season One to the meandering mess it is now?

Most of the people I tried to turn onto the show, have already changed the channel and moved on. The pacing was one of the most consistent comments from everyone.

]]> By: Julia http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/17/mad-men-will-return-but-will-shows-creator/6433/comment-page-1/#comment-27750 Julia Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:18:47 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6433#comment-27750 After the Emmys, I decided I would finally try Mad Men. Unfortunately, I did not like it. I really wanted to, but I couldn't, so I gave up after four episodes. After the Emmys, I decided I would finally try Mad Men. Unfortunately, I did not like it. I really wanted to, but I couldn’t, so I gave up after four episodes.

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