Unfortunately, our analysis overall is that DVR viewing that occurs after the night the program aired is meaningless in terms of ad revenue, and only valuable for press releases. Though this is probably not quite as true for shows airing at 10pm, it’s likely still mostly true anyway (because nobody watches commercials via DVR).

But I get by unmeasurable volumes of bottled H2O. Which is really funny because whenever I go out my friends get free drinks cause I hit up the bartender for drinks, and pass it on to them. But the ironic thing is that I don’t drive, so I can’t be the designated driver, and they say it would be plus to hit two birds with one stone, free drinks and a designated driver in one.

And though awards are seemingly understated when it comes to ratings, it must urk some board members that they have the most viewed tv shows in TV land, yet are black balled when it comes to award season in the drama department.

Also, I know I am going to be labeled a conspiracy theorists when it comes to this generality, but did anyone realize that Jerry Bruckheimer eliminated one black actor from his show, as another black actor was coming on board. Maybe I am the only one breathing too much into this because I am black, but he did this once before with POTC 2 -> 3, he dropped one black actress in favor of the lead which was also black. I noticed this because she was featured in the commercials for the 1st POTC. Once is excusable, but twice becomes suspect. What, 2 blacks can’t share the same screen time at once?

But I doubt anyone will really take this act seriously, they only sit up and take notice when spike lee addresses these issues.

with that said, I think that Private Practice would do so much better if they put it after Grey’s at 10pm

Tut tut. Be nice.

Which would you rather be? Mad Men (and I love this show) with ~1.5 million viewers and a best drama Emmy or Burn Notice (and I confess, I enjoy BN more) with over 4 million viewers?

PD isn’t going *anywhere* but OUT after it’s 13 episodes unless Jesus makes an appearance and says “RESURRECT THIS SHOW” (unlikely). Otherwise, it’s done like Moonlight.

CBS already *knows* how Christine does in the Monday 9:30 spot (better than Worst Week!). It needs something to ANCHOR its Wednesday comedy block, and so it will try to keep Christine there. I don’t see that changing unless CBS gives up on a Wednesday comedy block which does not seem likely for now.

Not only that but they are doing the right thing and trimming down the cast, letting character acting take center stage.

I saw LOM last night, I enjoyed it, Harvey Keitel looks like he would be up for an award nod next year, regardless of LOM being on the R/C index. Though this show is getting pounded in the ratings, they should ditch Eli Stone and give LOM a lead in from DWTS. Either Mon Or Tues, LOM looks like it could have been a shoe in to take up with the NYPD audience, though considerably less nitty gritty.

PD should go after DHH. Brothers and Sisters have been hanging onto their coat tails for far too long.

FYI, CBS is going to place Garry Unmarried after Two and a Half Men next week, I feel as if Christine deserves that spot a whole lot more. But I think that overall CBS is doing the smart thing by restructuring their procedurals. It should work.

CSI still skews older than Grey’s, even last night, and even within the 18-49 demo. Although the aggregate demos were about the same, CSI had more 45-49 year old viewers and far fewer 18-34 year old females (Grey’s won there by an 8.0 to a 4.0 in the fast nationals — a 100% difference). So Grey’s is the more valuable show in terms of advertising revenue, but CSI isn’t shabby… As much as I was giving her a hard time, I think Andrea’s real point is that CSI’s absolute number doesn’t matter — which I actually agree with, though I still think CSI is a “powerhouse” in this day and age.

ABC is heading downhill fast (I think you can judge how well their season’s going by how many timeslots Dancing With the Stars has). They’re megahits are all fading and LOST goes off the air after next season. They are in desparate need (no pun intended) to find some new shows that work. Life on Mars certainly isn’t putting up the numbers it would like, but it’s looking much more attractive than Eli Stone, Pushing Daises, or Dirty Sexy Money. I will make a bold prediction (the index seems to agree) that it gets the back nine. I don’t see it falling much further.

It wouldn’t shock me if ABC tried to do a spinoff of Desperate Housewives or. After all, what do they have to lose? They do have Flash Forward coming up soon, which does sound promising…

As for Life on Mars, that show is just too weird for a lot of people. But it’s numbers are decent enough that it should stick around a little longer.

OK, if CSI isn’t a demo powerhouse (in the 18-49 demo). In primetime, besides NFL overrun, what is?

What’s that you say? Nothing?

Ok, thank you. Now STFU please

I was saying, rightly, because it’s TvbytheNUMBERS, that CSI at 17 million skews old and is NOT a demo powerhouse. CSI beating GA in the demo is still great, so I don’t know what you think I’m scoffing at?

Anyway, if anyone scoffs a lot, it’s you, Robert. But it is your board

Smallville 4.030mm, 1.6/5,1.7/5, 4.412mm,1.8/5,2.0/6
Supernatural 3.370mm,1.4/,1.3/3, 3.131mm,1.2/3,1.1/3

Things are down, and if House (or anything else) were still pulling 7.x’s in the demo, it would be a valid comparison. Things are down all over and that nobody can deny, but in terms of relative comparisons, CSI’s performance is pretty robust.

If something needs a 7.0 to be a powerhouse, then there are no powerhouses at all anymore. Relative to the current environment, CSI is a powerhouse…but then again, so is Grey’s, or even House.

I don’t think that’s what she meant. And, please,don’t turn this into a circle jerk. That’s annoying.

Who said I was taking anything from it? You need to take a chill pill.

Via another source I saw a lot of half hourly gender/age based data (but not aggregat 18-49 to crosscheck w/the other source) and one thing is very clear. EH is *much* more popular with women than men.

And your point is?

How do you like ‘dem apples!

According to O’Reily there is not way, no how MSNBC could be spiking soooooooo much in the ratings.

Gotta luv that man.

JT, I’m not saying ABC didn’t hurt Lost by moving it around, but best shows (subjective metric) and most viewers (objective metric) do not always correlate. There is *no* timeslot ABC could put Lost on where it would outperform the total viewers CSI is currently getting Thursdays at 9pm.

Anyway we could get numbers on the last 2 minutes of supernatural, cause I’m thinkin Jensen might set some records with that performance. Pure Awesome.