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	<title>Comments on: Can Pushing Daisies Be Saved?</title>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pushing Daisies is my favourite TV show. I&#039;m 17, I live in England and watch it, recorded, thrice a week.
I&#039;m stunned it&#039;s not incredibly popular because I adore it, but if there are simply too few viewers then it has to go. Sadly, business is objective.
It will be very sorely missed, nothing else compares to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pushing Daisies is my favourite TV show. I&#8217;m 17, I live in England and watch it, recorded, thrice a week.<br />
I&#8217;m stunned it&#8217;s not incredibly popular because I adore it, but if there are simply too few viewers then it has to go. Sadly, business is objective.<br />
It will be very sorely missed, nothing else compares to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the show, my whole family...12, 14, 16, 46, 53 years old...we all watched it and taped it, EVERY WEEK.  Boo hoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the show, my whole family&#8230;12, 14, 16, 46, 53 years old&#8230;we all watched it and taped it, EVERY WEEK.  Boo hoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-5/#comment-32588</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I accidentally posted twice, so now I look like a jackass, but I don&#039;t care. I love the show that much. This show has won my heart and I would love to see it developed further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I accidentally posted twice, so now I look like a jackass, but I don&#8217;t care. I love the show that much. This show has won my heart and I would love to see it developed further.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this show and I&#039;m in the 18-49 group (22 in fact). I even stay during breaks and watch the commercials because I don&#039;t want to miss a moment of this delightfully quirky fantasy, so just keep it on the air please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this show and I&#8217;m in the 18-49 group (22 in fact). I even stay during breaks and watch the commercials because I don&#8217;t want to miss a moment of this delightfully quirky fantasy, so just keep it on the air please!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this show and I&#039;m in the 18-49 group. I even stay during breaks and watch the commercials because I don&#039;t want to miss a moment of this delightfully quirky fantasy, so just keep it on the air please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this show and I&#8217;m in the 18-49 group. I even stay during breaks and watch the commercials because I don&#8217;t want to miss a moment of this delightfully quirky fantasy, so just keep it on the air please!</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame really. I adore the show, and I am only 19 myself. 
However I have to admit that I&#039;m the only one of my friends that watches it.
I would hope that they would give it a chance, but as this is a business, anything that doesn&#039;t make they money they want is cut.
ABC can revolutionize television. With a show thats quirky, original, and truly entertaining, its not like any other shows out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame really. I adore the show, and I am only 19 myself.<br />
However I have to admit that I&#8217;m the only one of my friends that watches it.<br />
I would hope that they would give it a chance, but as this is a business, anything that doesn&#8217;t make they money they want is cut.<br />
ABC can revolutionize television. With a show thats quirky, original, and truly entertaining, its not like any other shows out there.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryinSJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerryinSJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 07:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pushing Daisies a completely unique experience that has been cultured for a very discerning audience. It is smart, quirky, original, colorful and one of the shows that makes the viewer happy after viewing. Most shows that succeed are the opposite in every way: predictable, low-brow, simple, repetitive, mean-spirited, and based on a trite, overly recycled ideas that easily absorb into the small minds glued to reality tv. I love Pushing Daisies for its audacity and tenacity, and was completely shocked it was picked up for a second season. Once the curtain falls, I will enjoy those episodes repeatedly. Great TV like this doesn&#039;t happen very often (see Freaks and Geeks, Arrested Development, Wonderfalls, Aliens in America, etc). I&#039;m glad we got these many episodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pushing Daisies a completely unique experience that has been cultured for a very discerning audience. It is smart, quirky, original, colorful and one of the shows that makes the viewer happy after viewing. Most shows that succeed are the opposite in every way: predictable, low-brow, simple, repetitive, mean-spirited, and based on a trite, overly recycled ideas that easily absorb into the small minds glued to reality tv. I love Pushing Daisies for its audacity and tenacity, and was completely shocked it was picked up for a second season. Once the curtain falls, I will enjoy those episodes repeatedly. Great TV like this doesn&#8217;t happen very often (see Freaks and Geeks, Arrested Development, Wonderfalls, Aliens in America, etc). I&#8217;m glad we got these many episodes.</p>
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		<title>By: S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you NicK C.</description>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S, lets just say your opinion seemed to have been shared by others.  Fuller was told the same thing with DEAD LIKE ME (notice that actress hasn&#039;t worked since).  A few people at ABC really wanted him to cast a slightly younger and more traditionally &quot;hot,&quot; actress.  Fuller would have none of it.  Friel did score better with women than men.  The scores were enough to green light, but they were definitely a warning sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S, lets just say your opinion seemed to have been shared by others.  Fuller was told the same thing with DEAD LIKE ME (notice that actress hasn&#8217;t worked since).  A few people at ABC really wanted him to cast a slightly younger and more traditionally &#8220;hot,&#8221; actress.  Fuller would have none of it.  Friel did score better with women than men.  The scores were enough to green light, but they were definitely a warning sign.</p>
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		<title>By: S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick C., now you have me curious. The cast member that scored extremely low,
Who was it? I&#039;m curious because the reason I can&#039;t stand the show is the leading actors. Specially Friel. She is so damn annoying, to me, and it rubs on Pace. PD was  one of the shows I was salivating for last season, but I can&#039;t overcome the visceral dislike of the leads.

With Dead Like Me, it took a little time to get used to the lead, no instant likability either, but at least she grew on you. Friel just bugs me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick C., now you have me curious. The cast member that scored extremely low,<br />
Who was it? I&#8217;m curious because the reason I can&#8217;t stand the show is the leading actors. Specially Friel. She is so damn annoying, to me, and it rubs on Pace. PD was  one of the shows I was salivating for last season, but I can&#8217;t overcome the visceral dislike of the leads.</p>
<p>With Dead Like Me, it took a little time to get used to the lead, no instant likability either, but at least she grew on you. Friel just bugs me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang. It&#039;s a warzone in here. :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang. It&#8217;s a warzone in here. :/</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip, sorry your argument lacks merit.  Dialogue driven shows aren&#039;t watched or understood by the masses?  This argument really doesn&#039;t hold up.  

The facts are these:

Pushing Daisies made a brilliant pilot that scored high in many areas.  ABC executives tried to get certain aspects of the show fixed (where it scored low) and Fuller said the rest would make up for it.  He bet that the exceptional STYLE would keep people around for the rest to work.  He also bet on a cast member that scored extremely low.  Fuller also bet heavily on &quot;the love relationship,&quot; hooking female viewers because it was a tragic love.  

Ratings are the worst on ABC for a scripted program.  ABC is currently in 3rd place among the networks.  

Fuller gambled and unless some miracle happens and viewers fall out of the sky he lost.  

Viewers are not relating to the show.  It isn&#039;t because dialogue is too snappy, it isn&#039;t because the show is too smart.  It isn&#039;t that the show is too quirky.  It is that they don&#039;t buy the concept.  It&#039;s an OPINION.  The people have chosen to watch something else or not at all.  It happens.  

Fans making absurd claims is pointless.  It&#039;s over.  Move on.  For every claim you fans make, I&#039;ll make my own about it being stupid.  Whose is more valid?  Doesn&#039;t matter, show is done with.  Enjoy the final episodes, and if they don&#039;t air (could happen) then enjoy the DVDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip, sorry your argument lacks merit.  Dialogue driven shows aren&#8217;t watched or understood by the masses?  This argument really doesn&#8217;t hold up.  </p>
<p>The facts are these:</p>
<p>Pushing Daisies made a brilliant pilot that scored high in many areas.  ABC executives tried to get certain aspects of the show fixed (where it scored low) and Fuller said the rest would make up for it.  He bet that the exceptional STYLE would keep people around for the rest to work.  He also bet on a cast member that scored extremely low.  Fuller also bet heavily on &#8220;the love relationship,&#8221; hooking female viewers because it was a tragic love.  </p>
<p>Ratings are the worst on ABC for a scripted program.  ABC is currently in 3rd place among the networks.  </p>
<p>Fuller gambled and unless some miracle happens and viewers fall out of the sky he lost.  </p>
<p>Viewers are not relating to the show.  It isn&#8217;t because dialogue is too snappy, it isn&#8217;t because the show is too smart.  It isn&#8217;t that the show is too quirky.  It is that they don&#8217;t buy the concept.  It&#8217;s an OPINION.  The people have chosen to watch something else or not at all.  It happens.  </p>
<p>Fans making absurd claims is pointless.  It&#8217;s over.  Move on.  For every claim you fans make, I&#8217;ll make my own about it being stupid.  Whose is more valid?  Doesn&#8217;t matter, show is done with.  Enjoy the final episodes, and if they don&#8217;t air (could happen) then enjoy the DVDs.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-5/#comment-30952</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops Holly, I am so stupid.  It&#039;s spelled characterization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops Holly, I am so stupid.  It&#8217;s spelled characterization.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever, Holly.  Not going to bother going back to check on what I am sure is a typo, but now that I know the English nanny is on high alert, I&#039;ll try and be more careful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever, Holly.  Not going to bother going back to check on what I am sure is a typo, but now that I know the English nanny is on high alert, I&#8217;ll try and be more careful.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link Nick.  Sorry you think PD fans are elitist.  While some like you may dislike the show because they find the show DUMB and STUPID(your words), I disagree.  I think it has a smaller audience because a lot of the &quot;nuance&quot; of the show is dialogue driven.  I am not saying EVERYONE is too dumb to get it, this type of entertainment is just not their cup of tea, so to speak.  They&#039;d rather watch something easier to digest.  Not judging them, they can watch whatever they want, but to call PD dumb or stupid is not a fair charactersation.  It&#039;s quality is much better than the majority of shows currently airing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Nick.  Sorry you think PD fans are elitist.  While some like you may dislike the show because they find the show DUMB and STUPID(your words), I disagree.  I think it has a smaller audience because a lot of the &#8220;nuance&#8221; of the show is dialogue driven.  I am not saying EVERYONE is too dumb to get it, this type of entertainment is just not their cup of tea, so to speak.  They&#8217;d rather watch something easier to digest.  Not judging them, they can watch whatever they want, but to call PD dumb or stupid is not a fair charactersation.  It&#8217;s quality is much better than the majority of shows currently airing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip,

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b66522_did_abc_just_cancel_pushing_daisies.html

First industry buzz site to mention that what I posted on here early today was true.  I&#039;m pretty sure the rumor was posted here first (and it wasn&#039;t a rumor, it happened).

The show is over.  It would take a miracle.  Obviously I watch shows for a reason.  That reason is tied to how I knew what Fuller was told before it was reported publicly.  I can also attack a show and it&#039;s elitist fans all I want.  You guys ASK for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b66522_did_abc_just_cancel_pushing_daisies.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b66522_did_abc_just_cancel_pushing_daisies.html</a></p>
<p>First industry buzz site to mention that what I posted on here early today was true.  I&#8217;m pretty sure the rumor was posted here first (and it wasn&#8217;t a rumor, it happened).</p>
<p>The show is over.  It would take a miracle.  Obviously I watch shows for a reason.  That reason is tied to how I knew what Fuller was told before it was reported publicly.  I can also attack a show and it&#8217;s elitist fans all I want.  You guys ASK for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Heradite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heradite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vader:

If you study history, Frost was more Romantic and used traditional forms. Whitman didn&#039;t as much, and back then it was change. 

@Alde: Survivor has been critically acclaimed. Hate it at all you want...critics didn&#039;t. 

ABC took a huge risk when they put Wednesday night as Sophomore Night. I think PD would do really fine if put after a popular ABC show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vader:</p>
<p>If you study history, Frost was more Romantic and used traditional forms. Whitman didn&#8217;t as much, and back then it was change. </p>
<p>@Alde: Survivor has been critically acclaimed. Hate it at all you want&#8230;critics didn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>ABC took a huge risk when they put Wednesday night as Sophomore Night. I think PD would do really fine if put after a popular ABC show.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people get so defensive about their opinions sometimes.  Sadly, it&#039;s just part of human nature.  I don&#039;t think it has anything to do with how smart (or stupid) the show is.  I think it&#039;s more what I wrote about this weekend on why some shows find a broad audience and some don&#039;t.  

Regardless of the IQ necessary to watch Pushing Daisies the broad audience didn&#039;t buy in.  And very clearly, men in particular were not buying in to the premise.  It basically averaged a 2.9/8 with women 18-49 and women 18-34 last night, and a 3.1/8 with women 25-54.  None of the younger male demos had above a 1.7, though as with women, it performed better with older males, with a 2.2/6 among men 25-54.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people get so defensive about their opinions sometimes.  Sadly, it&#8217;s just part of human nature.  I don&#8217;t think it has anything to do with how smart (or stupid) the show is.  I think it&#8217;s more what I wrote about this weekend on why some shows find a broad audience and some don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Regardless of the IQ necessary to watch Pushing Daisies the broad audience didn&#8217;t buy in.  And very clearly, men in particular were not buying in to the premise.  It basically averaged a 2.9/8 with women 18-49 and women 18-34 last night, and a 3.1/8 with women 25-54.  None of the younger male demos had above a 1.7, though as with women, it performed better with older males, with a 2.2/6 among men 25-54.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip, You kind of kill the &quot;I like Pushing Daisies because I&#039;m smarter than you&quot; argument when you can&#039;t tell the difference between between a contraction and a possessive pronoun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip, You kind of kill the &#8220;I like Pushing Daisies because I&#8217;m smarter than you&#8221; argument when you can&#8217;t tell the difference between between a contraction and a possessive pronoun.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30884</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last thought Nick, most shows have experienced eroded viewership this season, even the biggies like Desperate Housewives, CSI and Grey&#039;s Anatomy.  Granted not as harshly as PD, but I think they&#039;re all down due to the writers strike.  People found other things to watch and changed viewing habits.  Freshman series from last season got hit the hardest as people haven&#039;t gone back to check them out again.  Just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last thought Nick, most shows have experienced eroded viewership this season, even the biggies like Desperate Housewives, CSI and Grey&#8217;s Anatomy.  Granted not as harshly as PD, but I think they&#8217;re all down due to the writers strike.  People found other things to watch and changed viewing habits.  Freshman series from last season got hit the hardest as people haven&#8217;t gone back to check them out again.  Just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30883</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your odd Nick C.  I can think of a million other things to do with my time than watch a show I can&#039;t stand just in the hopes it crashes and burns.  Nor do I find it necessary to go online and bash shows I don&#039;t care for.  I just don&#039;t watch them.  First, KR is doing only marginally better than PD in the key demo, and mainly because NBC overall is doing so poorly.  And you proved my point with KR; it&#039;s a show they can understand without much mental effort, therefore attracting a &quot;few&quot; more viewers.  I suspect your a KR fan, and hoping PD dies so it can maybe get more viewers.  Still looking for your reference on PD being done at 13 eps.  Maybe you weren&#039;t being truthful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your odd Nick C.  I can think of a million other things to do with my time than watch a show I can&#8217;t stand just in the hopes it crashes and burns.  Nor do I find it necessary to go online and bash shows I don&#8217;t care for.  I just don&#8217;t watch them.  First, KR is doing only marginally better than PD in the key demo, and mainly because NBC overall is doing so poorly.  And you proved my point with KR; it&#8217;s a show they can understand without much mental effort, therefore attracting a &#8220;few&#8221; more viewers.  I suspect your a KR fan, and hoping PD dies so it can maybe get more viewers.  Still looking for your reference on PD being done at 13 eps.  Maybe you weren&#8217;t being truthful?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30873</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip, it&#039;s not &quot;too clever for the huddled masses,&quot; it&#039;s a dumb show that people just don&#039;t like.  More people dislike the show than like it.  How do I figure?  13M people watched the first episode.  6M people on average watch it now.  That means 7M people think it&#039;s not worth watching.  There are 8M people who&#039;d rather watch Knight Rider which isn&#039;t a smart show at all.  That means to me, that PD is disliked.

There is nothing about the show that is &quot;clever,&quot; or even smart.  The mysteries are horribly dull.  The show contradicts itself every episode that someone doesn&#039;t say &quot;whats with the animated corpse hanging out with you guys?&quot;  The Chuck character isn&#039;t alive, but an animated corpse.  No one notices?  That is rather stupid.  

Does it have neat sets?  Sure.  Is it quirky?  Sure.  Is it smart or clever?  Nope.  In fact I&#039;d say it&#039;s pretty stupid.  

Just because I think it&#039;s stupid doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t watch it.  I&#039;m amused by Emerson.  The rest of the characters are actually rather annoying.  I keep watching expecting them to fix the obvious problems, but they never do.  Now I watch it like I slow down to look at a car wreck.  This show is a wreck and it&#039;s fun to watch it die a slow and painful death.

Fuller should return to Heroes and try and save it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip, it&#8217;s not &#8220;too clever for the huddled masses,&#8221; it&#8217;s a dumb show that people just don&#8217;t like.  More people dislike the show than like it.  How do I figure?  13M people watched the first episode.  6M people on average watch it now.  That means 7M people think it&#8217;s not worth watching.  There are 8M people who&#8217;d rather watch Knight Rider which isn&#8217;t a smart show at all.  That means to me, that PD is disliked.</p>
<p>There is nothing about the show that is &#8220;clever,&#8221; or even smart.  The mysteries are horribly dull.  The show contradicts itself every episode that someone doesn&#8217;t say &#8220;whats with the animated corpse hanging out with you guys?&#8221;  The Chuck character isn&#8217;t alive, but an animated corpse.  No one notices?  That is rather stupid.  </p>
<p>Does it have neat sets?  Sure.  Is it quirky?  Sure.  Is it smart or clever?  Nope.  In fact I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s pretty stupid.  </p>
<p>Just because I think it&#8217;s stupid doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t watch it.  I&#8217;m amused by Emerson.  The rest of the characters are actually rather annoying.  I keep watching expecting them to fix the obvious problems, but they never do.  Now I watch it like I slow down to look at a car wreck.  This show is a wreck and it&#8217;s fun to watch it die a slow and painful death.</p>
<p>Fuller should return to Heroes and try and save it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As another poster mentioned, it’s too smart for average viewers.&quot;

Smart show? I wouldn&#039;t necessarily label this. Creative? yes. The investigation cases are boring, in a sense where you wonder why you&#039;d care. The interactions between the character are mostly fun (especially when there&#039;re Emerson and Oliva involved), but I didn&#039;t find them interesting enough, enough for me to care. Ned and Chuck can&#039;t touch? Are we ever putting them together? Writers give viewers more on why these two are so in love with one another, other than they were each other&#039;s first kiss/childhood friends. The set decorating department and makeup dept. &amp; rest of the crew should be creditted for the creatively. Oh, and Fuller for his concept. 

Also, there is nothing that&#039;s going on to engage the viewers to. Towards the end of last season, they did had something -Olive finding out Chuck &quot;fake&quot; her death, and one of the aunts is Chuck&#039;s mother. Both secrets are in the hands of Olive, in which she tried to keep. But that suspense quickly diminished when it was resolved in the first three episode of season 2, simply with Ned telling Chuck the truth about her mother. Where did the suspense go?

I enjoy PD, but it&#039;s not a show I&#039;d look forward to every week (it&#039;s still on my DVR list).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As another poster mentioned, it’s too smart for average viewers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Smart show? I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily label this. Creative? yes. The investigation cases are boring, in a sense where you wonder why you&#8217;d care. The interactions between the character are mostly fun (especially when there&#8217;re Emerson and Oliva involved), but I didn&#8217;t find them interesting enough, enough for me to care. Ned and Chuck can&#8217;t touch? Are we ever putting them together? Writers give viewers more on why these two are so in love with one another, other than they were each other&#8217;s first kiss/childhood friends. The set decorating department and makeup dept. &amp; rest of the crew should be creditted for the creatively. Oh, and Fuller for his concept. </p>
<p>Also, there is nothing that&#8217;s going on to engage the viewers to. Towards the end of last season, they did had something -Olive finding out Chuck &#8220;fake&#8221; her death, and one of the aunts is Chuck&#8217;s mother. Both secrets are in the hands of Olive, in which she tried to keep. But that suspense quickly diminished when it was resolved in the first three episode of season 2, simply with Ned telling Chuck the truth about her mother. Where did the suspense go?</p>
<p>I enjoy PD, but it&#8217;s not a show I&#8217;d look forward to every week (it&#8217;s still on my DVR list).</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30832</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I still smoked pot I&#039;d probably tune in weekly, but since I don&#039;t I&#039;ll have to agree that the show sucks.  It is not complex at all.  It&#039;s just stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I still smoked pot I&#8217;d probably tune in weekly, but since I don&#8217;t I&#8217;ll have to agree that the show sucks.  It is not complex at all.  It&#8217;s just stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30825</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick C - where did you read Fuller was told to make Ep 13 a series finale?  Got a link?  Clearly, you do not care for PD, and your bias shows.  Why are you here commenting if you dislike it so much?  Just wondering why you are in such an uproar that people like the show.   

Frankly, PD is indeed too clever for the huddled masses.  It is well acted and the writing is excellent!  The dialogue is just too fast-paced and witty to be &quot;understood&quot; for certain folks, who then turn to mindless reality TV (Dancing, Survivor etc) or poorly written crime procedurals because they don&#039;t have to think.  Come on, have you listened to the dialogue of the CSI, L&amp;O shows?  A 5 year old could figure out the plot in the first 2 minutes.  How come only drama cable shows received Emmy nods for writing this year? PD got a not in comedy.  Sorry, these shows are dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.  I&#039;ll keep rooting for PD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick C &#8211; where did you read Fuller was told to make Ep 13 a series finale?  Got a link?  Clearly, you do not care for PD, and your bias shows.  Why are you here commenting if you dislike it so much?  Just wondering why you are in such an uproar that people like the show.   </p>
<p>Frankly, PD is indeed too clever for the huddled masses.  It is well acted and the writing is excellent!  The dialogue is just too fast-paced and witty to be &#8220;understood&#8221; for certain folks, who then turn to mindless reality TV (Dancing, Survivor etc) or poorly written crime procedurals because they don&#8217;t have to think.  Come on, have you listened to the dialogue of the CSI, L&amp;O shows?  A 5 year old could figure out the plot in the first 2 minutes.  How come only drama cable shows received Emmy nods for writing this year? PD got a not in comedy.  Sorry, these shows are dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.  I&#8217;ll keep rooting for PD!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30820</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WANT MORE CHENO!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30814</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What elitism to claim that a show is &quot;too smart.&quot;  PD is failing because it is TOO DUMB.  People believe in a talking transforming car more than they can believe two people can fall in love and have a good relationship when they can never touch.  The talking car is easier to believe in.  The &quot;they can&#039;t ever touch!&quot; crap is DUMB.  Too dumb for TV it would appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What elitism to claim that a show is &#8220;too smart.&#8221;  PD is failing because it is TOO DUMB.  People believe in a talking transforming car more than they can believe two people can fall in love and have a good relationship when they can never touch.  The talking car is easier to believe in.  The &#8220;they can&#8217;t ever touch!&#8221; crap is DUMB.  Too dumb for TV it would appear.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30812</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PD&#039;s episode last night was my last. When I saw them scoping out the dim sum poker game I tuned out and switched to the Obama infommercial. I did not switch back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PD&#8217;s episode last night was my last. When I saw them scoping out the dim sum poker game I tuned out and switched to the Obama infommercial. I did not switch back.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey M</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30801</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As another poster mentioned, it&#039;s too smart for average viewers. They would rather watch Dancing with the Stars or Survivor or...Knight Rider.
That pretty much says it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As another poster mentioned, it&#8217;s too smart for average viewers. They would rather watch Dancing with the Stars or Survivor or&#8230;Knight Rider.<br />
That pretty much says it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Champ</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30748</link>
		<dc:creator>Champ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I forgot to say we would put happy drugs in them, just like the show. !P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I forgot to say we would put happy drugs in them, just like the show. !P</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30737</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this show, but i agreed with jamie, laste season PD got boring after a few episodes, however improve a lot to the final.

the mistake about this series was to try make a crime drama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this show, but i agreed with jamie, laste season PD got boring after a few episodes, however improve a lot to the final.</p>
<p>the mistake about this series was to try make a crime drama.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30711</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, PD got boring after a few episodes of the first season. At least PD got its leading actors some Emmy nods, so once it&#039;s cancelled, the actors can move on to bigger projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, PD got boring after a few episodes of the first season. At least PD got its leading actors some Emmy nods, so once it&#8217;s cancelled, the actors can move on to bigger projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30690</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Pushing Daisies fans are delirious!  I love the &quot;ABC didn&#039;t promote it!&quot; Why then was it the 2nd most promoted scripted show so far this season by ABC?  &quot;It would have done so well 5 to 10 years ago on Fox!&quot;  What are you smoking?  A bad show is a bad show anywhere.  Pushing Daisies steadily loses viewers.

Also it got canceled today (well Fuller was told to make the 13th episode a Series Finale, but I suppose some miracle could happen and people watch the last few episodes, but that would take a miracle).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Pushing Daisies fans are delirious!  I love the &#8220;ABC didn&#8217;t promote it!&#8221; Why then was it the 2nd most promoted scripted show so far this season by ABC?  &#8220;It would have done so well 5 to 10 years ago on Fox!&#8221;  What are you smoking?  A bad show is a bad show anywhere.  Pushing Daisies steadily loses viewers.</p>
<p>Also it got canceled today (well Fuller was told to make the 13th episode a Series Finale, but I suppose some miracle could happen and people watch the last few episodes, but that would take a miracle).</p>
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		<title>By: Shwa</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-4/#comment-30683</link>
		<dc:creator>Shwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I really want to know is where they get their ratings from? How many 18 year olds do you know that actually participate in the neilsens? I can&#039;t disagree that this show is quirky and colorful. Perhaps people are distracted by all those bright colors and too slow to catch the quick and clever dialogue. Maybe Americans; with their fast food and credit card debt are too impatient to spend time with a show that makes you think, feel, and is visually pleasing. I was amazed it was renewed in the first place. Once its gone maybe ABC can copy CBS and NBC and start its own crime series franchise, or maybe! maybe the CSI and Law and Order series could merge on ABC. They could call it Law and Crime Scene Toledo... Pushing Daisies was bound to be cancelled. After all this man is too brilliant for network television. I&#039;d really like to see what he could do in features. I won&#039;t apologize for calling Americans stupid or even lazy for that matter. We are and the less defensive we are about that the better things could be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I really want to know is where they get their ratings from? How many 18 year olds do you know that actually participate in the neilsens? I can&#8217;t disagree that this show is quirky and colorful. Perhaps people are distracted by all those bright colors and too slow to catch the quick and clever dialogue. Maybe Americans; with their fast food and credit card debt are too impatient to spend time with a show that makes you think, feel, and is visually pleasing. I was amazed it was renewed in the first place. Once its gone maybe ABC can copy CBS and NBC and start its own crime series franchise, or maybe! maybe the CSI and Law and Order series could merge on ABC. They could call it Law and Crime Scene Toledo&#8230; Pushing Daisies was bound to be cancelled. After all this man is too brilliant for network television. I&#8217;d really like to see what he could do in features. I won&#8217;t apologize for calling Americans stupid or even lazy for that matter. We are and the less defensive we are about that the better things could be.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-3/#comment-30665</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pushing Daisies is an excellent, wildly entertaining show.  Can it be saved?  I highly doubt it.  Maybe this show just isn&#039;t a fit for ABC.  People who watch ABC don&#039;t seem to do well with the whimsical, fantastic, or supernatural.  Just look at Life On Mars or Eli Stone.  Same deal.  With the exception of Lost, these types of shows just don&#039;t seem to resonate with ABC viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pushing Daisies is an excellent, wildly entertaining show.  Can it be saved?  I highly doubt it.  Maybe this show just isn&#8217;t a fit for ABC.  People who watch ABC don&#8217;t seem to do well with the whimsical, fantastic, or supernatural.  Just look at Life On Mars or Eli Stone.  Same deal.  With the exception of Lost, these types of shows just don&#8217;t seem to resonate with ABC viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: ABCFanatic</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-3/#comment-30661</link>
		<dc:creator>ABCFanatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy Pushing Daisies while its still on the air

because it will get the boot this season</description>
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<p>because it will get the boot this season</p>
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		<title>By: DaisiesDeathKnell</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2008/10/29/can-pushing-daisies-be-saved/7174/comment-page-3/#comment-30641</link>
		<dc:creator>DaisiesDeathKnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No point in doing those save-our-show campaigns they never really work. The numbers don&#039;t lie and the network heads know just how much each show is making financially. Yes, Jericho&#039;s an exception, but a definite waste of time still. CBS was banking on the show having a great DVD/online presence and becoming a LOST type water cooler show. Daisies, on the other hand, is known to at least half of this country via advertisements...I don&#039;t think it&#039;s anywhere near on the same level as Jericho in not being recognized, especially since Jericho aired on an older skewer network which is why the younger audience didn&#039;t know of its existence.

Anyway, the best thing to do is to tell your friends and family to watch this program! It went up .3 in the 18-49 demographic last night and saw a boost of nearly a million viewers. If most of these new viewers return for the next slice of pie and tell a few of their friends, you never know what could happen. If this show could capture the amount of viewers it did last night and add on a meager million more, that could be just enough to be borderline on the renew/cancel index.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No point in doing those save-our-show campaigns they never really work. The numbers don&#8217;t lie and the network heads know just how much each show is making financially. Yes, Jericho&#8217;s an exception, but a definite waste of time still. CBS was banking on the show having a great DVD/online presence and becoming a LOST type water cooler show. Daisies, on the other hand, is known to at least half of this country via advertisements&#8230;I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s anywhere near on the same level as Jericho in not being recognized, especially since Jericho aired on an older skewer network which is why the younger audience didn&#8217;t know of its existence.</p>
<p>Anyway, the best thing to do is to tell your friends and family to watch this program! It went up .3 in the 18-49 demographic last night and saw a boost of nearly a million viewers. If most of these new viewers return for the next slice of pie and tell a few of their friends, you never know what could happen. If this show could capture the amount of viewers it did last night and add on a meager million more, that could be just enough to be borderline on the renew/cancel index.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like that would be rewarding them, Champ. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like that would be rewarding them, Champ. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Champ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Champ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i say we pull a Jericho and send hundreds of tasty pies to the network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i say we pull a Jericho and send hundreds of tasty pies to the network.</p>
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		<title>By: Realm Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realm Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big fan of Pushing Daisies and I think it&#039;s a lot better then other crime procedurals that use the same boring story elements over and over again. I realize people like what is familar, but it seems like Nielsen ratings generally come down hard on shows with fantasy/sci-fi elements. I wonder if the general trend of older viewers being more representated in Nielsen polling is causing the trend? 

Oh well, at least shows like Lost prove that there can be breakaway hits with fantasy/sci-fi elements in them. I think over the next five years we&#039;ll see a lot more hits from this genre. I do wonder though if shows like Eureka, Reaper, and Supernatural would have been hits if they have been broadcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of Pushing Daisies and I think it&#8217;s a lot better then other crime procedurals that use the same boring story elements over and over again. I realize people like what is familar, but it seems like Nielsen ratings generally come down hard on shows with fantasy/sci-fi elements. I wonder if the general trend of older viewers being more representated in Nielsen polling is causing the trend? </p>
<p>Oh well, at least shows like Lost prove that there can be breakaway hits with fantasy/sci-fi elements in them. I think over the next five years we&#8217;ll see a lot more hits from this genre. I do wonder though if shows like Eureka, Reaper, and Supernatural would have been hits if they have been broadcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Fin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah well pushing up daisies just can&#039;t pull itself up and will be cancelled if it was ABC i would quickly whip up a reality tv show and quickly replace its: cheap and proberly only a lower cut of ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah well pushing up daisies just can&#8217;t pull itself up and will be cancelled if it was ABC i would quickly whip up a reality tv show and quickly replace its: cheap and proberly only a lower cut of ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris the TV sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris the TV sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doghouse: No, that&#039;s Kristin.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris the TV sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris the TV sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m gonna have a lot of time to kill in the old folks&#039; home.

Fortunately, I have hundreds of eps of &quot;Law &amp; Order&quot; to watch yet too. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna have a lot of time to kill in the old folks&#8217; home.</p>
<p>Fortunately, I have hundreds of eps of &#8220;Law &amp; Order&#8221; to watch yet too. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t; its a waste of time.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris the TV sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris the TV sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the only point you made that can&#039;t be boiled down to a simple difference of opinion. You think PD is better than CSI and BBT, and I don&#039;t. Neither of us is going to sway the other. 

(For the record, I have yet to watch a full ep of 2.5 Men. I assume I&#039;ll catch it in reruns someday.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the only point you made that can&#8217;t be boiled down to a simple difference of opinion. You think PD is better than CSI and BBT, and I don&#8217;t. Neither of us is going to sway the other. </p>
<p>(For the record, I have yet to watch a full ep of 2.5 Men. I assume I&#8217;ll catch it in reruns someday.)</p>
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		<title>By: Doghouse Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doghouse Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watch Pushing Daisies, but the show has lost whatever it was that made it so good last season. It seems to be getting cutesier with every new episode and that is not a good thing. I think ABC should be commended for giving it a second chance, when it really didn&#039;t deserve one (same goes for Dirty Sexy Money and Eli Stone).

As an aside, was anyone else nauseated by the following paragraph from the Watch with Kristin article?

--

TV was once a vast wasteland, but through ingenuity and small-screen spirit it has been turned into a flourishing paradise of awesome. However, if we begin to let go of revelations like Pushing Daisies on ABC, there is a very real threat to quality television as we know it. The wasteland may creep back and overtake all that is gracious and good in our living rooms every night. Join the fight against the scourge of bad TV, won&#039;t you?

--

That&#039;s at least partially sarcastic, right?  

Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watch Pushing Daisies, but the show has lost whatever it was that made it so good last season. It seems to be getting cutesier with every new episode and that is not a good thing. I think ABC should be commended for giving it a second chance, when it really didn&#8217;t deserve one (same goes for Dirty Sexy Money and Eli Stone).</p>
<p>As an aside, was anyone else nauseated by the following paragraph from the Watch with Kristin article?</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>TV was once a vast wasteland, but through ingenuity and small-screen spirit it has been turned into a flourishing paradise of awesome. However, if we begin to let go of revelations like Pushing Daisies on ABC, there is a very real threat to quality television as we know it. The wasteland may creep back and overtake all that is gracious and good in our living rooms every night. Join the fight against the scourge of bad TV, won&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s at least partially sarcastic, right?  </p>
<p>Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Fin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know; but u said wikipedia. Anyway thats not my point.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris the TV sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris the TV sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fin: You can verify the UK ratings at barb.co.uk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fin: You can verify the UK ratings at barb.co.uk.</p>
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		<title>By: Fin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your FOX comments; its schedule is filled with the same shows being renewed. But i want you to think about internet revenue, which may be making up for the loss in TV ratings. So shows that are hits on the internet like Heroes may make loads on the internet. So shows like PD might not be such failures (but thats proberly an overstatement). Although FOX&#039;s new Family Guy spin-off doesn&#039;t look like it will impress me but it looks like FOX migth be taking a risk, who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your FOX comments; its schedule is filled with the same shows being renewed. But i want you to think about internet revenue, which may be making up for the loss in TV ratings. So shows that are hits on the internet like Heroes may make loads on the internet. So shows like PD might not be such failures (but thats proberly an overstatement). Although FOX&#8217;s new Family Guy spin-off doesn&#8217;t look like it will impress me but it looks like FOX migth be taking a risk, who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: DaisiesDeathKnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaisiesDeathKnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not knock CBS without hitting upon ABC as well. ABC has an even poorer track record historically. Once in a while, they get a groundbreaking show like Twin Peaks or Pushing Daisies and then make a few mistakes here or there that lead to audience loss. Quite frankly, Daisies would be a potential hit on FOX five-to-ten years ago and the same for the X-Files-y Twin Peaks. Hell, they even have problems with LOST which was absolutely abysmal at recouping revenue via reruns, hence the &quot;all in a row&quot; format. Still, they hurt that show by not tightening the reigns in the 2nd/3rd seasons when LOST wasted many hours going absolutely nowhere, and they definitely should have told the producers to wrap it up in five seasons rather than the six as the upcoming one seems absolutely superfluous...nothing much will go on at the island and the Oceanic Six will end up back on the island by the season finale. Talk about not progressing your story!

If we&#039;re going for best overall network of the last twenty years, it&#039;s definitely FOX. If you were to list every &quot;good&quot; to &quot;great&quot; show that has aired on FOX at that time, you&#039;d be absolutely astonished by how long the roll call sheet would be. Unfortunately, FOX is no longer a risk taker and is fine with hobbling its schedule around tired animation, a giant reality show, and some meh procedurals. I guess they did indeed decide to morph into CBS Lite after having an endless stream of great shows for about three years that didn&#039;t pan out into ratings successes....I mean, Firefly/Wonderfalls/Dark Angel/Family Guy/The Tick/Action/Andy Richter/Undeclared, etc. Can&#039;t say FOX didn&#039;t try although they certainly screwed up the marketing on a lot of these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not knock CBS without hitting upon ABC as well. ABC has an even poorer track record historically. Once in a while, they get a groundbreaking show like Twin Peaks or Pushing Daisies and then make a few mistakes here or there that lead to audience loss. Quite frankly, Daisies would be a potential hit on FOX five-to-ten years ago and the same for the X-Files-y Twin Peaks. Hell, they even have problems with LOST which was absolutely abysmal at recouping revenue via reruns, hence the &#8220;all in a row&#8221; format. Still, they hurt that show by not tightening the reigns in the 2nd/3rd seasons when LOST wasted many hours going absolutely nowhere, and they definitely should have told the producers to wrap it up in five seasons rather than the six as the upcoming one seems absolutely superfluous&#8230;nothing much will go on at the island and the Oceanic Six will end up back on the island by the season finale. Talk about not progressing your story!</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re going for best overall network of the last twenty years, it&#8217;s definitely FOX. If you were to list every &#8220;good&#8221; to &#8220;great&#8221; show that has aired on FOX at that time, you&#8217;d be absolutely astonished by how long the roll call sheet would be. Unfortunately, FOX is no longer a risk taker and is fine with hobbling its schedule around tired animation, a giant reality show, and some meh procedurals. I guess they did indeed decide to morph into CBS Lite after having an endless stream of great shows for about three years that didn&#8217;t pan out into ratings successes&#8230;.I mean, Firefly/Wonderfalls/Dark Angel/Family Guy/The Tick/Action/Andy Richter/Undeclared, etc. Can&#8217;t say FOX didn&#8217;t try although they certainly screwed up the marketing on a lot of these.</p>
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