Comments on: Monday Nielsen Ratings: Heroes Stabilizes, Sarah Connor Fades

By: Travis

Travis — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:46:27 +0000

Everyone please go to your local movie store and rent terminator 1 and 2 and open your eyes.This show is so watered down it doesnt have the darkness and thrilling moments the movies were famous for.Also summer i agree shes a good lil actress.But come on you think the whole cast is great.Now that is a streach in a half.Brian Green what can i say his acting range is as short as his record career.Lena Headly good actress,bad choice for sarah conner.Last but not least john conner.Thomas dekker if i wanted to watch john conner as a emo who acts more like a whiney lil girl ill go watch something else.this is just my opinion and im sticking by it.

By: Prez

Prez — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:47:53 +0000

Just adding my TSCC-fanboy opinion to the discussion. I find the Sarah Connor chronicles to be the best TV series I have ever watched. I think Summer Glau has really been short-changed a lot. While a lesser known and less accomplished, I believe she is an absolutely brilliant actress. I would be devastated if it got canceled.

I would definitely go back to not watchingn the rest of the disposable drek on TV nowadays.

By: tSh

tSh — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:57:11 +0000

Yep, I’m another one on the T:TSCC rocks bandwagon.

I’m living my tv-viewing life week to week as these episodes come out.

I think that Summer is acting the role of a machine incredibly well. I remember reading something about Thomas D. finding it hard to act with her in Alison from Palmdale (he kept cracking into laughter) due to the fact that she was acting like a real person and he is used to acting at a blank-ish, cyborg-ish face with her. That speaks volumes of how well she’s taken on that role!!

TSCC for the win.

And yeah, Jared, we respect your opinion and politely (well, most of us politely) disagree.

By: Bartek

Bartek — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:10:29 +0000

In my opinion Summer Glau is great actress.

Greetings from Poland

By: Yudha

Yudha — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:11:25 +0000

With Summer Glau I found that I spent most of my time on the net not to search for her pictures but I’m more interested in her bios, interviews, facts, trivias, etc. I’m amazed by her talents (from Firefly, Serenity, and TSCC) and it also seems like she’s a nice person (from interviews, forums, and conventions).

By: Jared

Jared — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:04:37 +0000

Sorry if I offended anyone by saying I don’t like Summer. Just don’t okay. It’s my opinion, just that. Why attack me and call me some 800 pound Cheeto eater or whatever? seriously? I tought we had all at least graduated middle school, but okay…..
It seems she has a lot of fans, and that’s great, maybe I’ll check out those other episodes and Serenity and Firefly, maybe I won’t. I, like everyone else on this planet, am really busy.
So if you love Summer, great, if you don’t, that’s okay too. I respect differing opinions on something that is, after all, only entertainment.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:46:55 +0000

TSCC is definitely one of the best shows ever. The whole cast (and the writers & co as well) are doing such an incredible work. The acting of Summer (ok the other actors as well, I have to admit, it’s just that I have a preference for Cameron) is just close to perfection. There is no way I can describe her talent : she is just amazing and gives so much depth in the story and so much feelings to us…

Keep on this excellent work, Summer, we all support you !!!

Xavier from Belgium

By: Gusar

Gusar — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:58:08 +0000

Addendum:

Summer does not only act, she’s also extremely good at the physical stuff. She’s an ex-ballerina and had 3 months of fight camp, followed by another 3 months of intense fight preparations for the movie Serenity. The bar fight in the movie, only the flip down the stairs is a stunt double, the rest is Summer herself. The fight against the Reavers towards the end of the movie is all her – and it’s the most beautifully choreographed fight I’ve ever seen. So as you can see, she’s very talented overall: acting, ballet, fighting, she also danced tango and flamenco professionally.

And everyone who has ever met her personally will tell you how incredibly sweet and down to earth and humble she is. Despite all her talents, she says about her “I’m just a normal girl.”

By: Gusar

Gusar — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:50:32 +0000

S., I would advise you to check out Summer Glau’s previous work. In Firefly/Serenity she plays River, a mentally traumatized young girl. In The 4400 she plays Tess, a schizophrenic. You might say both of those roles are that of a “crazy person”, but she plays them quite differently. I didn’t see any of River in Tess. Except that both are full of emotions. Then you have Summer playing a terminator, which is the exact opposite – a terminator has as a rule (though this rule is changing now with Cameron) no emotions. Still Summer nails the role of Cameron. I can’t imagine another actress that could pull this off the way Summer does. This all tells you about the versatility of roles Summer can play – a mark of a good actress.

Summer also has this great ability of having a total blank stare in one second and then burst out in full emotion the next second, and then back to blank stare. See for example the scene with the school counselor in the episode “1×05 – Queen’s Gambit”.

By: Rachel P

Rachel P — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:22:15 +0000

RRef, you are exactly right. Even if the role of a Terminator seems like a walk in the park, it’s not. At least not for one like Cameron. Most people would either be boring or look like plain idiots if they were given the role. But Summer portrays the character in such a way as to give her a soul. It might be hard to notice at times due to a Terminator’s quiet nature, but Summer has given Cameron such an incredible and unique quality that I feel no one else would be able to capture quite the same way. And this is coming from someone who had never even heard of the girl until this show, not to mention thought that the Terminator franchise could never be anything without Arnold.
Summer sure proved me wrong.

By: Valektburg

Valektburg — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 06:27:36 +0000

TSCC is not flawless but I’m totally addicted.
The cast is amazing. And they have something worth to act.
Summer Glau is just incredible.
She makes believable even some crappy lines.

By: stoner4life

stoner4life — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:08:35 +0000

TSSC is the best show since Twin Peaks and should be rewarded for that fact. Plus: keep on bashing TSCC. Just don’t start crying when someone who looks just like you knocks on your door.

By: dan

dan — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:24:56 +0000

Summer Glau does a great job. And she keeps getting better.

By: logan

logan — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:20:22 +0000

TSCC is one of the best shows on television. The cast is awesome, and the plots are amazing. This is the one show on television that I can’t miss. It’s crazy to me that others don’t give this show a chance. It is thoughtful, intelligent, suspenseful, and never disappoints.

To all those people who haven’t paid attention to the show, I ask them to give it a chance. Go to hulu.com or fancast.com and watch “Samson and Delilah” and “Allison from Palmdale”. Those episodes are mind-blowing. Summer Glau is an insanely good actress. The rest of the cast is awesome too.

This show is addictive. There’s a reason why Fox hasn’t given up on the show despite the ratings. Fox executives are notoriously brutal when it comes to performance, so they must see something amazing in the show. You will too. Just catch up on the storylines.

By: fabrice

fabrice — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:47:46 +0000

summer glau is a great actress..she is doing a great work in the show

one of the best things in the show is her character and her relationship with
john connor

TSCC is one of the best shows on tv in many years

By: RREF

RREF — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:07:26 +0000

On the topic of TSCC and Summer Glau:

Although her role in the show doesn’t allow much emotion, there are many other subtleties she adds to her character that bring it to life. For example, on the show, she’s a task oriented robot. Adhering to this strictly, Summer Glau has not done one thing without reason; every smile, every pause, every small fluctuation in her tone of voice. Each subtlety then changes or adds meaning to the character, the plot, or the story. Something even more noteworthy is the way she plays her character fitting to each scene. With one look, one phrase, and especially with one iota of emotion, she can create different kinds of situational atmospheres ranging from intense chaos to suspense to sexual tension. She can even turn it all around and comically cut tension in half by saying or doing something inappropriate; admittedly however, the writers of the show are equally responsible for this aspect. Summer Glau does a good job on her show and she proves that there are many more tools that can give a character depth than just emotion.

By: CrashMacKenzie

CrashMacKenzie — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:01:10 +0000

Cherry, as someone whose done plenty of acting myself, there’s no trick to not showing emotion. I, like most of the tv viewing world, don’t watch the show in question, so I haven’t seen her work in it.

I did see her in ‘Serenity’, though. She was okay.

By: Timinator

Timinator — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:38:15 +0000

TSCC is the only TV program I find truly compelling. Yes, it is complicated. Yes, you need to watch all the episodes. Yes, you need to pay attention. Sometimes you have to re-watch the episode to understand what happened. You CAN’T channel surf. You can’t half-listen to your chatty partner. The ideas that are presented will stretch and tone your mind. And then there’s Lena Headey: the actress who’s moved Sarah Conner out of the mental hospital and back into fighting for her son’s life, humanity’s life. And Summer Glau, the first Terminator performance to pass the “she might kill me but I have to have her” test.

By: Cherry

Cherry — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:29:01 +0000

TSCC MUST STAY ON!!! millions will be DEVASTATED if it gets canceled. Its the most original out of ALL these shows (heroes a close second).

By: Cherry

Cherry — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:22:40 +0000

Jared, I also would like to support Summer Glau on this one by telling you that she is an amazing actress. Being a good actress is not just about portraying emotions, in this case it is also about hiding emotions, which she pulls off amazingly well. You’re looking at her acting from the wrong point of view. And if that is not enough to convince you, watch Allison from Palmdale.

By: Will

Will — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:50:50 +0000

Jared, you’ve cut me deep man. But I will give you credit for for at least admitting you’ve only seen the first 5 episodes of the 1st season. I believe that the casual viewer may have been short-changed in the first season due to the writer’s strike in that plot lines had to be eliminated when the season was condensed. I highly suggest you invest the time to catch up on the episodes. Besides “Alison from Palmdale” I would also recommend the second season’s 1st episode “Samson & Delilah.” Hulu.com has them all. I’m confident you’re opinion will drastically change. I don’t have a lot of time to invest in TV but I keep up with stuff online. I’m a big fan of House and Numb3rs if that’ll give you an understanding of my tastes. TSCC is arguably one of the best shows on TV. I would love to hear your reaction after giving it a second chance.

By: John

John — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:44:50 +0000

Summer is the WIN.

By: Cat

Cat — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:37:41 +0000

Julia, I know what you mean. Fans can be deluded most of the time. Take Britney as a example. No matter how many fans try to convince other she’s talented almost everyone knows that is not the case. She makes money out of singing but she ain’t too good at it, and that’s an understatement.

Summer however is different from most if not all the actresses. You haven’t seen her body of work so you don’t know what I’m talking about. I’m not a fan of hers but I recognize quality when I see it. Believe me, I do this for a living. To the people who bash her, your loss.

By: Dex

Dex — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:36:46 +0000

Summer Glau is a fine actress, check out not just the “Allison from Palmdale” episode, but also Firefly, where she portrays someone totally different from the emotionless terminator (which she does quite well at too).

TCSS is a great show that I think is suffering because people think they know what its about…the terminator of the week. It isn’t, it has very smart plotting, some of the smartest I have ever seen in a television show. But, shows that you have to think to follow have trouble picking up an audience. Its too bad, really.

By: KrelleK

KrelleK — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:35:48 +0000

If some of you out there thinks she is a bad actress, I was wondering if you have seen her former work, Like the single Episode in Angel, waiting in the wings, or the to soon stopped Firefly, and Serenity, have you tried to see it with commnentaries on, Joss Whedon says she was so damn nervous, if she would be able to make some of those very emotional river tam scenes in firefly/Serenity, and she goes in and makes it atleast to me spectacular job, I get teary eyed when i see them. I even believe that Joss said that the people that where wittnesing this scene being made, that be camera people and such, but also the other actors/actresses endend up with tears in there eyes, seeing it..

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:32:21 +0000

To Jared, Summer Glau is one of the better actresses on tv. Perhaps if you weren’t an 800 pound, short bus jockey, you’d have an opinion worth noting.

As it is, keep stuffing the cheetos. You will make the world a better place with your passing.

By: morninglightmountain

morninglightmountain — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:28:18 +0000

The whole cast of T:SCC is very good, the acting is fantastic storylines great its such a shame that the show isnt picking up the ratings it truly deserves, Summer Glau is a great actress her character Cameron speaks only a little (fitting of a terminator) but when needed can bring intense emotion to a scene – and she is great see her in Firefly and Serenity if you dont believe me.

By: Julia

Julia — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:28:06 +0000

Cat, your logic does not hold. Fans ganging up on someone saying that an actor/actress can’t act does not prove that that person can act.

(Note: I’ve never seen Terminator and wouldn’t even be able to point out Summer Glau amongst a cast picture, so I have no opinion on her acting.)

By: Cat

Cat — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:14:13 +0000

Excuse me? Glau not a good actress? Read all the critical aclaim she has gathered despite her being a newbie. The fans and the critics have it right this time. Her talent cannot be denied. The fact that so many people defend her here says enough.

By: S.

S. — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:16:06 +0000

Summer Glau is not that good an actress. She only looks good because the other are even worse, and in the TSCC context she actually is the best thing in the show. Maybe the only good thing on the show, once I think about it…

By: Jan

Jan — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:11:00 +0000

Uh, you people realize that it’s pointless to be arguing back an forth about something that is based on opinions, right?

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Sarah Connor Society » Blog Archive » TSCC News and Review Round-Up — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:37:38 +0000

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By: chris

chris — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:59:49 +0000

Lol, Jared has no idea what he’s talking about.

By: Maria

Maria — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:14:21 +0000

You should see Summer’s previous work. Very impressive and totally nothing like what she does now. A very versatile actress. If you don’t think she’s great I wonder who is? I can’t name another actress straight of the bat who has more talent.

By: Jared

Jared — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:06:56 +0000

No Corey, I haven’t seen that episode, I might have to check it out one of these days. I assume it’s online, right?
As far as everyone else, sorry I don’t agree that Summer is a great actor. I just don’t, alright? It’s only a matter of opinion, didn’t think mine would matter so much…

By: nobody_at_all

nobody_at_all — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:14:15 +0000

Summer may not be a bad actress, but it’s quite a stretch to say that she’s a great one. Being able to cry on cue is a talent possessed by many performers, including the lousy ones. Just because she was allowed to show some emotion in Allison from Palmdale doesn’t mean that she deserves an Emmy.

By: Tony

Tony — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:20:09 +0000

To Jared. If you think Summer Glau is the worst actress you’ve ever seen you really can’t be taken seriously. This girl is obviously talented instead of the usual 13 a dozen type. Don’t quit your dayjob. Summer Glau rules and TSCC ROCKS!

By: Jesse

Jesse — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:19:36 +0000

I don’t know how or why How I Met Your Mother has exploded in popularity, but I’m ecstatic about it. I can’t believe the difference a year makes with the ratings for that show. I remember cancellation talk.

By: Rachel P

Rachel P — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:31:59 +0000

And by the way Jared, Terminators aren’t really ones prone to show a ton of emotion, ya know?

By: Matt2

Matt2 — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:21:08 +0000

108, thanks for the breakdown of Prison Break’s ratings. I can’t wait to see how PB and Heroes ratings do after Dancing With the Stars takes its winter break. If Heroes and PB continue to pull 8 and 5 million viewers respectively then the morons on the verge of nervous breakdowns over prospective cancellation notices being issued can’t blame it on DWTS. Believe me, ABC doesn’t want to see Heroes or Prison Break or TSCC cancelled either. LOL.

By: Don

Don — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:00:12 +0000

Nice to see Numb3rs and Cold Case back in the Green. Neither show is an 18-49 sell. More so with Cold Case. Desperate Housewives and Family Guy are the 18-49ers

By: Vader

Vader — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:43:13 +0000

That’s what I meant Robert. I think they’d start slicing into the budget and axe some characters before they’d just can it outright. It may not be looking too good right now, but if they tried to replace it, I’d be willing to bet its replacement could not score that high in the demo.

By: Corey

Corey — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:20:10 +0000

Jared, I’m not trying to be sarcastic when I ask this: Have you watched T:SCC, S2 ep 4, “Allison from Palmdale”? If you haven’t, I think it would change your mind about her acting skills. That episode alone has some journalist demanding Summer get an Emmy nomination.

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20239137_2,00.html#pagecomments

By: 108

108 — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:51:53 +0000

For those who are interested, here’s the ratings analysis for the first 12 episodes of the current (4th) season of Prison Break, courtesy of data published on this site:

- S04E01 ‘Scylla’ and S04E02 ‘Breaking and Entering’ (Aired at the same night): 6.48 Million Viewers and a 2.6/7 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E03 ‘Shut Down’: 6.478 Million Viewers and a 2.6/6 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E04 ‘Eagles and Angels’: 5.887 Million Viewers and a 2.5/6 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E05 ‘Safe and Sound’: 5.929 Million Viewers and a 2.5/6 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E06 ‘Blow Out’: 5.26 Million Viewers and a 2.0/5 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E07 ‘Five the Hard Way’: 5.427 Million Viewers and a 2.2/5 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E08 ‘The Price’: 5.84 Million Viewers and a 2.4/5 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E09 ‘Greatness Achieved’: 5.24 Million Viewers and a 2.1/5 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E10 ‘The Legend’: 5.41 Million Viewers and a 2.2/5 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E11 ‘Quiet Riot’: 5.89 Million Viewers and a 2.3/5 in the 18-49 demo.

- S04E12 ‘Selfless’: 5.25 Million Viewers and a 2.1/5 in the 18-49 demo.

So for the first 12 eps, the average ratings are 5.73 Million Viewers and a 2.3/5 in the 18-49 demo.

It will be interesting to see how it does next week without DWTS (same for TTSCC). It will be even more interesting to see how well the last 6 eps of the season do, probably with a better lead-in and maybe at a different slot against less/easier competition.

By: entertainmenttodayandbeyond

entertainmenttodayandbeyond — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:07:19 +0000

Heroes is a mess. Way too many characters with a totally unfocused storyline. What a fall from a really good season one.

Chuck

By: Jared

Jared — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:40:34 +0000

thanks rachel. I should have prefaced that it was just my opinion. I’ll be the first to point out the short comings in my show, Heroes, can’t the say the acting is award winning on that either, but hey a show entertains us, we’re all willing to look past the short comings.

By: Don

Don — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:07:44 +0000

“With how bad NBC is doing in general, Heroes is ironically a bright spot; despite how far its fallen from its Season 1 glory days. Thats how bad things are at NBC these days. Even so, if ratings fall like they did before this season, I figure its 13 episodes to wrap things up and its out the door.”

I am going to keep harping on this people and to Tim K. and to NBC. Plan your Exit Strategy for Heroes. Your show does not have the shelf life that the sitcoms and crime dramas have.

Nobody else is saying this so I am going to keep saying. Plan the show’s closure next year.

Another strike and Heroes may be DOA

By: Rachel P

Rachel P — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:12:46 +0000

Jared – I suggest you run away now before the mobs here cut you down for that stab at Summer Glau… myself included.

Just looking out for ya.

By: Rachel P

Rachel P — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:08:37 +0000

*cries*

Oh, the irony. Anyways, DWTS til get 2 million more viewers than it usually gets, so I’m sure that contributed to the series low TSCC faced. But that REALLY sucks. I can only hope that in its next two weeks it’ll possibly do better since DWTS will be over finally. As long as TSCC is still lined up to move to Fridays in Feb, I’ll be okay. I think it can do well there. At least not worse… I hope.

By: Jared

Jared — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:08:29 +0000

I don’t really understand in the appeal to SCC at all. I was interested when it first started, watched the first 5 episodes. Each week I was hoping it would get better, thinking, hey got to give it a chance right? Each week it got worse. The girl who plays Cameron is probably the worst actress I’ve ever seen. Hopefully the show will end well for the fanbase, but I don’t see it lasting after the second season(which i was surprised that it got ordered for a second half this season)