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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Ratings:  Cowboys + Controversy + New York = great ratings</title>
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		<title>By: TheBigCW</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBigCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless, JERICHO is doing what The CW wanted it to do - Doing better than the Show it replaced,improved the time-slot over last years and cost next to nothing to do it. 

Besides,they&#039;ll do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to keep from turning Sunday night back over to the affilates!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless, JERICHO is doing what The CW wanted it to do &#8211; Doing better than the Show it replaced,improved the time-slot over last years and cost next to nothing to do it. </p>
<p>Besides,they&#8217;ll do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to keep from turning Sunday night back over to the affilates!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny UHD extended Jericho and CW added it to boost Sunday Ratings which it did. 

And we are talking 2 year old reruns. And you are covering it and writing about Jericho!

Thanks Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny UHD extended Jericho and CW added it to boost Sunday Ratings which it did. </p>
<p>And we are talking 2 year old reruns. And you are covering it and writing about Jericho!</p>
<p>Thanks Robert</p>
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		<title>By: clutz12001</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz12001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not *that* obsessed, sir.  I enjoy watching how the repeats are doing.  I am a *tiny* bit obsessed with studying trends - I love SPC charts, experimental design and analysis, all sorts of fun with numbers.  I guess that means I do have a screw loose, but not the one you are implying. I noted what I believe would be needed, in terms of numbers, happen for any new Jericho development considerations.  I did not note that I believe 3MM viewers will actually happen.  It would be cool if it did.  The million dollars falling out of the sky is a fun dream too, though scientifically impossible.  Theoretically, 3MM Jericho viewers would mean &quot;X&quot; number of Nielsen meters/diaries tuned into the show for at least what - 15 minutes?  So one of those dreams is statistically a possibility.  Not saying I believe it will, just saying it&#039;s scientifically possible! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not *that* obsessed, sir.  I enjoy watching how the repeats are doing.  I am a *tiny* bit obsessed with studying trends &#8211; I love SPC charts, experimental design and analysis, all sorts of fun with numbers.  I guess that means I do have a screw loose, but not the one you are implying. I noted what I believe would be needed, in terms of numbers, happen for any new Jericho development considerations.  I did not note that I believe 3MM viewers will actually happen.  It would be cool if it did.  The million dollars falling out of the sky is a fun dream too, though scientifically impossible.  Theoretically, 3MM Jericho viewers would mean &#8220;X&#8221; number of Nielsen meters/diaries tuned into the show for at least what &#8211; 15 minutes?  So one of those dreams is statistically a possibility.  Not saying I believe it will, just saying it&#8217;s scientifically possible! <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clutz, with all due respect, you have a screw or few loose.  Jericho&#039;s doom is behind it.  I don&#039;t read *anything* at all into this week&#039;s ratings versus last week&#039;s, or the week before that.   Do I think the preemptions effected this week&#039;s final numbers?  Sure.  But whether that&#039;s by 50,000 or 200,000...so what?  I don&#039;t mean any disrespect, but seriously and literally, so what?  

There is no chance, none of 3 million viewers and solid demo numbers for reruns on the CW Sunday nights.  If it happened it would certainly be interesting to talk about.  But if a million dollars fell out of the sky and rained down on you, that too would be interesting.  Neither is happening, so I don&#039;t understand thinking about it. Obsessing over it is as crazy as obsessing over a million dollars falling out of the sky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clutz, with all due respect, you have a screw or few loose.  Jericho&#8217;s doom is behind it.  I don&#8217;t read *anything* at all into this week&#8217;s ratings versus last week&#8217;s, or the week before that.   Do I think the preemptions effected this week&#8217;s final numbers?  Sure.  But whether that&#8217;s by 50,000 or 200,000&#8230;so what?  I don&#8217;t mean any disrespect, but seriously and literally, so what?  </p>
<p>There is no chance, none of 3 million viewers and solid demo numbers for reruns on the CW Sunday nights.  If it happened it would certainly be interesting to talk about.  But if a million dollars fell out of the sky and rained down on you, that too would be interesting.  Neither is happening, so I don&#8217;t understand thinking about it. Obsessing over it is as crazy as obsessing over a million dollars falling out of the sky.</p>
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		<title>By: clutz12001</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz12001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I was just writing before I saw your response, Robert!  

Spaceballs did OK, but not as good as Cutting Edge (with Jericho&#039;s own D.B. Sweeney).

Already answered your &quot;ratings will tell me what?&quot; question before I even saw it :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I was just writing before I saw your response, Robert!  </p>
<p>Spaceballs did OK, but not as good as Cutting Edge (with Jericho&#8217;s own D.B. Sweeney).</p>
<p>Already answered your &#8220;ratings will tell me what?&#8221; question before I even saw it <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: clutz12001</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz12001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, Mr. Seidman, this blog has always been quick to jump on the Jericho Doomsday bandwagon.  Sure, low ratings are the main reason it was canceled.  Sure, what&#039;s airing on the CW are merely repeats of the canceled show.  Still, I get the feeling you are all-too-quick to support the idea that we are seeing doom in ratings this week.  This week was a single run where ratings dipped below the 1MM mark for Jericho, mainly in the first half hour.  I went and checked the weekly final ratings for previous Jericho episodes - they stayed pretty close to the overnight numbers.  So in this case, one ratings dip does not a &quot;downward trend&quot; make.  Pre-emptions played a factor.  Darn good football on other networks played a factor (post-games, pre-games, yadda yadda yadda).  I withold any judgement until I see a few more weeks and a few more numbers.  

And yes, I do understand that ratings of a couple million won&#039;t be cause for the CW to pick up new episodes.  We&#039;d need to see a solid 3 million viewers, and 18-49 demos that at least crack the 1.0 mark, IMHO, to even consider movie or spinoff options.  Jericho fans are just everyday people, building great friendships while sharing a passion for a wonderful scripted drama.  So what if we dream big once in a while ;) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, Mr. Seidman, this blog has always been quick to jump on the Jericho Doomsday bandwagon.  Sure, low ratings are the main reason it was canceled.  Sure, what&#8217;s airing on the CW are merely repeats of the canceled show.  Still, I get the feeling you are all-too-quick to support the idea that we are seeing doom in ratings this week.  This week was a single run where ratings dipped below the 1MM mark for Jericho, mainly in the first half hour.  I went and checked the weekly final ratings for previous Jericho episodes &#8211; they stayed pretty close to the overnight numbers.  So in this case, one ratings dip does not a &#8220;downward trend&#8221; make.  Pre-emptions played a factor.  Darn good football on other networks played a factor (post-games, pre-games, yadda yadda yadda).  I withold any judgement until I see a few more weeks and a few more numbers.  </p>
<p>And yes, I do understand that ratings of a couple million won&#8217;t be cause for the CW to pick up new episodes.  We&#8217;d need to see a solid 3 million viewers, and 18-49 demos that at least crack the 1.0 mark, IMHO, to even consider movie or spinoff options.  Jericho fans are just everyday people, building great friendships while sharing a passion for a wonderful scripted drama.  So what if we dream big once in a while <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clutz, c&#039;mon.  I mean, really, c&#039;mon!  Spaceballs did better than Valentine too -- so?  

What is the next few weeks going to tell you?  Even if it&#039;s back up over a million.  Even if it&#039;s 1.5 million (which doesn&#039;t seem likely honestly), what&#039;s it going to tell you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clutz, c&#8217;mon.  I mean, really, c&#8217;mon!  Spaceballs did better than Valentine too &#8212; so?  </p>
<p>What is the next few weeks going to tell you?  Even if it&#8217;s back up over a million.  Even if it&#8217;s 1.5 million (which doesn&#8217;t seem likely honestly), what&#8217;s it going to tell you?</p>
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		<title>By: clutz12001</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz12001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - just checked back on this page.  I think we&#039;ve got a Scooby Doo episode going on here with Joe Cool - first mask pulled off and there&#039;s Soylent!  If we pull the Soylent mask, will we see Nina Tassler or Les Moonves, LOL?!?  Actually we won&#039;t se either - the CBS execs probably wouldn&#039;t spout off about how Jericho veered &quot;too politically Left&quot; in Season 2.  Maybe we&#039;d see Sean Hannity? Just kidding - I like Hannity ;)

Back on-topic.  I do think some major market pre-emptions combined with a big football night on all networks cut into Jericho&#039;s numbers on this particular week.  It was a rebroadcast of a canceled (sadly) show, up against major football and holiday fare.  And it still did better than Valentine!  Let&#039;s see what happens over the next few weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; just checked back on this page.  I think we&#8217;ve got a Scooby Doo episode going on here with Joe Cool &#8211; first mask pulled off and there&#8217;s Soylent!  If we pull the Soylent mask, will we see Nina Tassler or Les Moonves, LOL?!?  Actually we won&#8217;t se either &#8211; the CBS execs probably wouldn&#8217;t spout off about how Jericho veered &#8220;too politically Left&#8221; in Season 2.  Maybe we&#8217;d see Sean Hannity? Just kidding &#8211; I like Hannity <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Back on-topic.  I do think some major market pre-emptions combined with a big football night on all networks cut into Jericho&#8217;s numbers on this particular week.  It was a rebroadcast of a canceled (sadly) show, up against major football and holiday fare.  And it still did better than Valentine!  Let&#8217;s see what happens over the next few weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spin?  About Jericho?  hahahahaha.  that is funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spin?  About Jericho?  hahahahaha.  that is funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets take a show off NYC and Pittsburgh and other football markets and try and spin that away. Not good reporting to omit that little fact Robert, but you are biased but controlled by the click on all things Jericho.

Funny second half hour was 1.09M and trending near last weeks episode. Better than CW last year and 3 weeks ago to I might ad!

Football rules Sundays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets take a show off NYC and Pittsburgh and other football markets and try and spin that away. Not good reporting to omit that little fact Robert, but you are biased but controlled by the click on all things Jericho.</p>
<p>Funny second half hour was 1.09M and trending near last weeks episode. Better than CW last year and 3 weeks ago to I might ad!</p>
<p>Football rules Sundays.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s OK he&#039;s not egregiously a troll, he&#039;s just an irrational fan.  and in his defense it&#039;s true the #s I cited measure only television homes, and not people.  But the fact is, almost none of the people (relatively speaking) in the New York metro area watch the reruns of Jericho when it&#039;s *not* preempted, so getting worked up by the preemption seems awfully silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s OK he&#8217;s not egregiously a troll, he&#8217;s just an irrational fan.  and in his defense it&#8217;s true the #s I cited measure only television homes, and not people.  But the fact is, almost none of the people (relatively speaking) in the New York metro area watch the reruns of Jericho when it&#8217;s *not* preempted, so getting worked up by the preemption seems awfully silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Robert, I posted before I saw your suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Robert, I posted before I saw your suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does a pre-emption make a difference in the final numbers? Yes (more so with a popular show, but still). Would Jericho have gotten more than 900,000 viewers if it weren&#039;t pre-empted? Possibly. Does the pre-emption explain the total 250,000 viewer drop from last week. Seriously doubtful. Does anyone besides Jericho fanatics care? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does a pre-emption make a difference in the final numbers? Yes (more so with a popular show, but still). Would Jericho have gotten more than 900,000 viewers if it weren&#8217;t pre-empted? Possibly. Does the pre-emption explain the total 250,000 viewer drop from last week. Seriously doubtful. Does anyone besides Jericho fanatics care? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City

The New York metropolitan area&#039;s population is also the nation&#039;s highest, estimated at 19,750,000 people over 6,720 square miles (17,400 km2) in three states.[7]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City</a></p>
<p>The New York metropolitan area&#8217;s population is also the nation&#8217;s highest, estimated at 19,750,000 people over 6,720 square miles (17,400 km2) in three states.[7]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone, I suggest you ignore all future posts from Mark.  I don&#039;t think he intends to be a troll, but he winds up achieving such status nonetheless.  I&#039;ll be ignoring future comments except to say that the reairings at 11pm are not included in the numbers either above, or the weekly numbers.  They are measured, and both the local affiliate and the CW certainly wind up seeing those numbers, but Nielsen doesn&#039;t include the out of timeslot airings in the normal timeslot tallies.  That&#039;s true of any show that is preempted and airs out of it&#039;s time slot and not just Jericho.

The NYC metro area is not 20 million, not according to Nielsen, the US Government or New York or New Jersey. Nielsen pegs it at &lt;a href=&quot;http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/10/nielsen-local-television-market-universe-estimates/5037&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;7.4 million for the current season&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone, I suggest you ignore all future posts from Mark.  I don&#8217;t think he intends to be a troll, but he winds up achieving such status nonetheless.  I&#8217;ll be ignoring future comments except to say that the reairings at 11pm are not included in the numbers either above, or the weekly numbers.  They are measured, and both the local affiliate and the CW certainly wind up seeing those numbers, but Nielsen doesn&#8217;t include the out of timeslot airings in the normal timeslot tallies.  That&#8217;s true of any show that is preempted and airs out of it&#8217;s time slot and not just Jericho.</p>
<p>The NYC metro area is not 20 million, not according to Nielsen, the US Government or New York or New Jersey. Nielsen pegs it at <a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/10/nielsen-local-television-market-universe-estimates/5037" rel="nofollow">7.4 million for the current season</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jericho was re aired at 11:00 pm so what your saying is that had no effect.

 The New York metropolitan area alone accounts for over 20 million people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jericho was re aired at 11:00 pm so what your saying is that had no effect.</p>
<p> The New York metropolitan area alone accounts for over 20 million people.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, The numbers posted here INCLUDE viewing the pre-empted markets. The overnight numbers show everyone who was watching that network/affiliate during each half-hour. The final numbers (posted later that day or the next on pifeedback, sitcomsonline, and a few other places, and in the weekly numbers on this site) are adjusted to remove the pre-empted markets to show how many people were watching a specific program.

Since Jericho was pre-empted in a couple of markets, the numbers here are actually &lt;i&gt;higher&lt;/i&gt; than the final numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, The numbers posted here INCLUDE viewing the pre-empted markets. The overnight numbers show everyone who was watching that network/affiliate during each half-hour. The final numbers (posted later that day or the next on pifeedback, sitcomsonline, and a few other places, and in the weekly numbers on this site) are adjusted to remove the pre-empted markets to show how many people were watching a specific program.</p>
<p>Since Jericho was pre-empted in a couple of markets, the numbers here are actually <i>higher</i> than the final numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be some misunderstanding on what happened to Jericho last Sunday... So for the record Jericho was preempted in at least two markets New York and Pittsburgh and not for football but for a Billy Graham special was ran in its place. 

Those are two HUGE markets that are missing from the Jericho numbers.

And Clutz I believe you are correct we have located the troll Soylent from the CBS board.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be some misunderstanding on what happened to Jericho last Sunday&#8230; So for the record Jericho was preempted in at least two markets New York and Pittsburgh and not for football but for a Billy Graham special was ran in its place. </p>
<p>Those are two HUGE markets that are missing from the Jericho numbers.</p>
<p>And Clutz I believe you are correct we have located the troll Soylent from the CBS board.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: idizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>idizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAFF, I agree actually. What I meant was less individual people should never watch Jericho anymore, it was more that I do not really expect them to flock to a show that&#039;s got the canned sticker in masses and suddenly make it a surprise rerun ratings hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAFF, I agree actually. What I meant was less individual people should never watch Jericho anymore, it was more that I do not really expect them to flock to a show that&#8217;s got the canned sticker in masses and suddenly make it a surprise rerun ratings hit.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jerichoguy, it&#039;s never likely that we are censoring comments, particularly at 6:19am Pacific. As for where your first comment went, I have no idea, it was not in the spam filter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jerichoguy, it&#8217;s never likely that we are censoring comments, particularly at 6:19am Pacific. As for where your first comment went, I have no idea, it was not in the spam filter.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jerichoguy, I don&#039;t know what happened to your post, but if Robert and Bill were going to censor people for their opinions (abusive behavior, foul language, and spamming aside), they would have started it a long time ago with the cable news threads or the crazed Moonlight fans. More likely your post got caught by the spam filter for some odd reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jerichoguy, I don&#8217;t know what happened to your post, but if Robert and Bill were going to censor people for their opinions (abusive behavior, foul language, and spamming aside), they would have started it a long time ago with the cable news threads or the crazed Moonlight fans. More likely your post got caught by the spam filter for some odd reason.</p>
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		<title>By: clutz12001</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz12001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Cool - I hereby dub thee Soylent 4.0 :)

How many millions of posts will it take for you to realize that dillusional is not a word?  In any case, it&#039;s nice to know you still lurk on UHD and other Jericho boards.  It&#039;s fun to see how obsessed you are with pointing out your own delusions regarding Jericho&#039;s fandom.  It&#039;s a fandom just like any other fandom.  The fandom is hard-core, cultish (as in &quot;cult hit,&quot;  &quot;cult classic,&quot; etc...), and a whole lot of fun!  Too bad you simply cannot understand the notion that some of us did not interpret JS2 the same negative way that you did. To do so, you must understand that yours is an OPINION, not a FACT ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Cool &#8211; I hereby dub thee Soylent 4.0 <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>How many millions of posts will it take for you to realize that dillusional is not a word?  In any case, it&#8217;s nice to know you still lurk on UHD and other Jericho boards.  It&#8217;s fun to see how obsessed you are with pointing out your own delusions regarding Jericho&#8217;s fandom.  It&#8217;s a fandom just like any other fandom.  The fandom is hard-core, cultish (as in &#8220;cult hit,&#8221;  &#8220;cult classic,&#8221; etc&#8230;), and a whole lot of fun!  Too bad you simply cannot understand the notion that some of us did not interpret JS2 the same negative way that you did. To do so, you must understand that yours is an OPINION, not a FACT <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: jerichoguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerichoguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My second post was not posted, hmmmmmmmmmmm shades of CBS censoring what we say.  Go Rangers !!!!!  SEMPER FI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My second post was not posted, hmmmmmmmmmmm shades of CBS censoring what we say.  Go Rangers !!!!!  SEMPER FI</p>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, not again.  I like sci-fi/genre shows, so I watched a part of Jericho on Sunday . . . I&#039;ve gotta say, I now understand why the show got canceled.  It was just about the most boring show I&#039;ve ever seen.  I turned it off and went back to watching Animal Planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, not again.  I like sci-fi/genre shows, so I watched a part of Jericho on Sunday . . . I&#8217;ve gotta say, I now understand why the show got canceled.  It was just about the most boring show I&#8217;ve ever seen.  I turned it off and went back to watching Animal Planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Cool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MBH - Jericho trending down is rather predictable. Its like the sun coming up in the morning.  Jericho was a show with alot of promise but decisions by the producers regarding Season 2 alienated much of the Season 1 fan base for various reasons.  Season 1 and 2 were really very different shows. The producers couldnt decide if it was more post apocalyptic survival story or a sub-Tom Clancy/&quot;24&quot;  type political thriller involving evil US government officials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MBH &#8211; Jericho trending down is rather predictable. Its like the sun coming up in the morning.  Jericho was a show with alot of promise but decisions by the producers regarding Season 2 alienated much of the Season 1 fan base for various reasons.  Season 1 and 2 were really very different shows. The producers couldnt decide if it was more post apocalyptic survival story or a sub-Tom Clancy/&#8221;24&#8243;  type political thriller involving evil US government officials.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Cool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAFF,  I dont hate Jericho. In fact I loved Season 1 - Season 2, not so much due to the bad writing, plot changes and dumping Gerald McRaney. Its just that there are seriously dillusional people still thinking it has a chance for a Season 3. I left Jericho fandom when the core of crazies (maybe 100-200 people) began calling anyone who dared question Jericho&#039;s viablity or the Season 2 changes, a troll, and shouted them down. These days they are literally creating graphs of number of posts on various boards and YouTube views thinking those stats will impress anyone other than themselves.  Now they are saying that once the NFL season is over, Jerichos rating will magically climb. Yeah right. King of the Hill manages 4 million for a rerun, Jericho should get at least 2.5-3.0 million (CW&#039;s coverage isnt as high as FOX but its close)

Jericho fandom these days is very cult-like and creepy. Almost Heavens Gate-ish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAFF,  I dont hate Jericho. In fact I loved Season 1 &#8211; Season 2, not so much due to the bad writing, plot changes and dumping Gerald McRaney. Its just that there are seriously dillusional people still thinking it has a chance for a Season 3. I left Jericho fandom when the core of crazies (maybe 100-200 people) began calling anyone who dared question Jericho&#8217;s viablity or the Season 2 changes, a troll, and shouted them down. These days they are literally creating graphs of number of posts on various boards and YouTube views thinking those stats will impress anyone other than themselves.  Now they are saying that once the NFL season is over, Jerichos rating will magically climb. Yeah right. King of the Hill manages 4 million for a rerun, Jericho should get at least 2.5-3.0 million (CW&#8217;s coverage isnt as high as FOX but its close)</p>
<p>Jericho fandom these days is very cult-like and creepy. Almost Heavens Gate-ish.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone know the ratings for Dexter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone know the ratings for Dexter?</p>
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		<title>By: BMH</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didnt Jericho get like 1.12 mill last week? Losing 250K viewers in the 3rd week sounds like a death spiral. Next time this show gets canned (which should be about the time the Superbowl is on), back a truck up on the gravesite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didnt Jericho get like 1.12 mill last week? Losing 250K viewers in the 3rd week sounds like a death spiral. Next time this show gets canned (which should be about the time the Superbowl is on), back a truck up on the gravesite.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jerichos dead</description>
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		<title>By: Heradite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heradite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Jericho fan, I am not shocked by these numbers for Jericho. I mean-who wants to see a show that was canceled after 2 seasons for bad ratings when you could be watching Football or 60 Minutes or King of the Hill reruns? No matter how good it is. The CW simply knew it would bring in enough ratings to get advertisers to pay to come up with original programming. They never meant to revive it, or even finish the first season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Jericho fan, I am not shocked by these numbers for Jericho. I mean-who wants to see a show that was canceled after 2 seasons for bad ratings when you could be watching Football or 60 Minutes or King of the Hill reruns? No matter how good it is. The CW simply knew it would bring in enough ratings to get advertisers to pay to come up with original programming. They never meant to revive it, or even finish the first season.</p>
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		<title>By: clutz12001</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz12001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

From your link: &quot;Of the 210 Designated Market Areas, the 56 markets listed below are measured by meter technology. Depending on the size of the market the technology used is either Local People Meter (LPM) or a combination of set meters and paper diaries.&quot;

Combined with the Post-Gazette info stating that People Meters will come around next year, I interpreted the Pittsburgh situation as set meters and paper diaries until 2009, due to smaller market size?  We&#039;re not a huge city, and I&#039;m OK with that ;) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>From your link: &#8220;Of the 210 Designated Market Areas, the 56 markets listed below are measured by meter technology. Depending on the size of the market the technology used is either Local People Meter (LPM) or a combination of set meters and paper diaries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Combined with the Post-Gazette info stating that People Meters will come around next year, I interpreted the Pittsburgh situation as set meters and paper diaries until 2009, due to smaller market size?  We&#8217;re not a huge city, and I&#8217;m OK with that <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
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		<title>By: RAFF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAFF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>idizzle, you say people have no reason to take up a cancelled show.  Why not?  That&#039;s like saying there&#039;s no reason to watch a movie because it will end.  Everybody should watch Jericho for themselves before they form an opinion about it.  Yes, it will end after many hours of suspense and edge-of-your-seat thrills but I have not seen a better show since Jericho ended.  And hey, Joe Cool, why do you hate Jericho so much?  Always the same drivel from you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>idizzle, you say people have no reason to take up a cancelled show.  Why not?  That&#8217;s like saying there&#8217;s no reason to watch a movie because it will end.  Everybody should watch Jericho for themselves before they form an opinion about it.  Yes, it will end after many hours of suspense and edge-of-your-seat thrills but I have not seen a better show since Jericho ended.  And hey, Joe Cool, why do you hate Jericho so much?  Always the same drivel from you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, my understanding is that sweeps provide data from markets outside of the 56 that have people meters 24/7 primarily for local show ratings. The national ratings that Nielsen provides are meant to extrapolate to the entire US population age 2 and above, which Nielsen estimates at 292 million.

Jeremiah, this is my day job! And you&#039;re being sensitive over your identification with a &lt;em&gt;television show&lt;/em&gt;? Get a life.

As for doing better than CW Sundays a month ago, talk about leaping over the lowest hurdle ever set for broadcast television. Bravo!

Jericho&#039;s in that timeslot as likely the cheapest airtime that the CW could juggle up from CBS and Warner Brothers to cover themselves for the rest of the season, nothing more. Nothing is expected of it, and it&#039;s delivering!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, my understanding is that sweeps provide data from markets outside of the 56 that have people meters 24/7 primarily for local show ratings. The national ratings that Nielsen provides are meant to extrapolate to the entire US population age 2 and above, which Nielsen estimates at 292 million.</p>
<p>Jeremiah, this is my day job! And you&#8217;re being sensitive over your identification with a <em>television show</em>? Get a life.</p>
<p>As for doing better than CW Sundays a month ago, talk about leaping over the lowest hurdle ever set for broadcast television. Bravo!</p>
<p>Jericho&#8217;s in that timeslot as likely the cheapest airtime that the CW could juggle up from CBS and Warner Brothers to cover themselves for the rest of the season, nothing more. Nothing is expected of it, and it&#8217;s delivering!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Author name calling and tossing insults. Explains a lot, keep the day job.

CW Sunday nights doing far better than a month ago

Funny UHD Management cited ratings and fan demand when it extended Jericho&#039;s schedule two more months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author name calling and tossing insults. Explains a lot, keep the day job.</p>
<p>CW Sunday nights doing far better than a month ago</p>
<p>Funny UHD Management cited ratings and fan demand when it extended Jericho&#8217;s schedule two more months.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are the ratings meant to extrapolate for the entire population, about 300m, or less with fewer cities/towns taking part in samples? How much more coverage does the sweeps provide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the ratings meant to extrapolate for the entire population, about 300m, or less with fewer cities/towns taking part in samples? How much more coverage does the sweeps provide?</p>
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		<title>By: copasetic</title>
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		<dc:creator>copasetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Football is so boring. You have to be a little bit brain-damaged to enjoy it.</description>
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		<title>By: RR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be late for the debate, but the last time I checked, the Raiders have beaten two division leaders this season (Broncos, Jets). In addition, Cincinnati, St. Louis, and Kansas City all have worse records, but they do not get bashed nearly as much as the Raiders do. Just watch ESPN (the sports equivalent of Fox News), and listen to the bias. Oh, and if it wasn&#039;t for Al Davis, the NFL wouldn&#039;t be what it is today: a juggernaut.

On topic, I shutter to think what NBC would be without the NFL. Yet, at the same time, NBC loses millions. With the BCS recently going to cable, I don&#039;t know how long the NFL can stay on broadcast, regardless of it&#039;s draw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be late for the debate, but the last time I checked, the Raiders have beaten two division leaders this season (Broncos, Jets). In addition, Cincinnati, St. Louis, and Kansas City all have worse records, but they do not get bashed nearly as much as the Raiders do. Just watch ESPN (the sports equivalent of Fox News), and listen to the bias. Oh, and if it wasn&#8217;t for Al Davis, the NFL wouldn&#8217;t be what it is today: a juggernaut.</p>
<p>On topic, I shutter to think what NBC would be without the NFL. Yet, at the same time, NBC loses millions. With the BCS recently going to cable, I don&#8217;t know how long the NFL can stay on broadcast, regardless of it&#8217;s draw.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clutz, what he might be referring to, and I could easily be wrong, is that people meters will soon be measuring *local* shows in Pittsburg instead of the paper diaries that are still used to measure local shows during &quot;sweeps&quot; periods. I know that Nielsen is rolling out that &quot;local&quot; capability across additional markets now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clutz, what he might be referring to, and I could easily be wrong, is that people meters will soon be measuring *local* shows in Pittsburg instead of the paper diaries that are still used to measure local shows during &#8220;sweeps&#8221; periods. I know that Nielsen is rolling out that &#8220;local&#8221; capability across additional markets now.</p>
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		<title>By: clutz12001</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz12001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, here&#039;s the linkage April 2008 :)

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08095/870271-238.stm

Quote: &quot;It might be of interest to your readers (and you!) that Nielsen plans to bring this same People Meter technology to Pittsburgh next year. When People Meters are implemented, you will have demographics every day rather than waiting for the &quot;sweeps&quot; and that could begin to change the way that local TV stations plan their news and other programs. Just as the networks now have national audience demographics every day, so will your local stations.&quot;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, here&#8217;s the linkage April 2008 <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08095/870271-238.stm" rel="nofollow">http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08095/870271-238.stm</a></p>
<p>Quote: &#8220;It might be of interest to your readers (and you!) that Nielsen plans to bring this same People Meter technology to Pittsburgh next year. When People Meters are implemented, you will have demographics every day rather than waiting for the &#8220;sweeps&#8221; and that could begin to change the way that local TV stations plan their news and other programs. Just as the networks now have national audience demographics every day, so will your local stations.&#8221;"</p>
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		<title>By: clutz12001</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz12001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette TV Q&amp;A discussing the topic.  It noted that Local People Meters will be rolled out in Pittsburgh in 2009.  Don&#039;t know how that affects the fast national ratings though.  I&#039;ll see if I can track down a link to the article.  The PG reporter was Rob Owen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette TV Q&amp;A discussing the topic.  It noted that Local People Meters will be rolled out in Pittsburgh in 2009.  Don&#8217;t know how that affects the fast national ratings though.  I&#8217;ll see if I can track down a link to the article.  The PG reporter was Rob Owen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clutz, with all the same disclaimers as above re:Jericho, &lt;a href=&quot;http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/11/06/nielsen-people-meter-markets/1649&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my understanding from the data provided by Nielsen was that Pittsburgh had people meters&lt;/a&gt;, do you know something different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clutz, with all the same disclaimers as above re:Jericho, <a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/11/06/nielsen-people-meter-markets/1649" rel="nofollow">my understanding from the data provided by Nielsen was that Pittsburgh had people meters</a>, do you know something different?</p>
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		<title>By: clutz12001</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz12001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a &quot;Jericho4ever,&quot; Jericho Ranger, nut case... whatever name you choose I&#039;ve been called worse ;)

I don&#039;t believe that repeats on the CW at 1-1.25 million viewers and 0.3-0.4 ratings in the 18-49 demo will be sufficient to bring the show back.  

But Joe Cool -  &quot;average was under one million&quot;  - never a single solitary FACT to prove yourself on that one.  On the CW, the average is still hovering just above 1.1 million.  Local affiliates that pre-empted Jericho last night did so for very obvious reasons - Stillers and longstanding tradition Billy Graham.  They didn&#039;t just &quot;dump it for local syndicated programs.&quot;  Stick to the freaking facts, genius.

As for reruns of WAT - that show, despite skewing older, is doing very well in the timeslot that (to quote Matt Roush) &quot;has killed every show since Judging Amy.&quot;  Kudos to CBS and WAT for finally getting something that works in that timeslot.  Perhaps older, well-established shows have got the edge there.  Nothing new seems to stick Tuesdays at 10 on CBS.

Lastly - the NY affiliates, to my knowledge, did not carry football.  They carried Billy Graham.  In Pittsburgh, the CW may have been inflated by NFL postgame numbers - but we don&#039;t have local people meters here anyway.  And we don&#039; know about Graham&#039;s effect in New York.  Hey, that&#039;s a Jericho quote  - &quot;we don&#039;t know anything about New York!&quot; ;)

I think it&#039;s fitting that &quot;The Cutting Edge&quot; pulled more viewers on the CW Movie than did Spaceballs.  Holiday type fare, with figure skating and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a &#8220;Jericho4ever,&#8221; Jericho Ranger, nut case&#8230; whatever name you choose I&#8217;ve been called worse <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that repeats on the CW at 1-1.25 million viewers and 0.3-0.4 ratings in the 18-49 demo will be sufficient to bring the show back.  </p>
<p>But Joe Cool &#8211;  &#8220;average was under one million&#8221;  &#8211; never a single solitary FACT to prove yourself on that one.  On the CW, the average is still hovering just above 1.1 million.  Local affiliates that pre-empted Jericho last night did so for very obvious reasons &#8211; Stillers and longstanding tradition Billy Graham.  They didn&#8217;t just &#8220;dump it for local syndicated programs.&#8221;  Stick to the freaking facts, genius.</p>
<p>As for reruns of WAT &#8211; that show, despite skewing older, is doing very well in the timeslot that (to quote Matt Roush) &#8220;has killed every show since Judging Amy.&#8221;  Kudos to CBS and WAT for finally getting something that works in that timeslot.  Perhaps older, well-established shows have got the edge there.  Nothing new seems to stick Tuesdays at 10 on CBS.</p>
<p>Lastly &#8211; the NY affiliates, to my knowledge, did not carry football.  They carried Billy Graham.  In Pittsburgh, the CW may have been inflated by NFL postgame numbers &#8211; but we don&#8217;t have local people meters here anyway.  And we don&#8217; know about Graham&#8217;s effect in New York.  Hey, that&#8217;s a Jericho quote  &#8211; &#8220;we don&#8217;t know anything about New York!&#8221; <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s fitting that &#8220;The Cutting Edge&#8221; pulled more viewers on the CW Movie than did Spaceballs.  Holiday type fare, with figure skating and all.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.networksolutions.com/domain-name-registration/domain-name-search-results.jsp?isExplicitSearchAvailable=false&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SaveJuneau.com is available!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lack the stamina to persist with explaining that NFL always inflates, and NEVER deflates the &quot;overnight&quot; ratings, though perhaps we should add it to the boiler plate so we can ignore that sort of thing in perpetuity.  But I heard a rumor CBS plans a Jericho sequel called Juneau and is currently working on a deal to lure Sarah Palin that would pay her millions.  

Psyche!

Hey, if the &quot;Jericho 4ever&quot; universe can be insane as hell, I should at least be able to get away with a 6th grade level of maturity.

P.S.  Reruns of Without a Trace are doing better on Tuesdays at 10pm than Jericho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lack the stamina to persist with explaining that NFL always inflates, and NEVER deflates the &#8220;overnight&#8221; ratings, though perhaps we should add it to the boiler plate so we can ignore that sort of thing in perpetuity.  But I heard a rumor CBS plans a Jericho sequel called Juneau and is currently working on a deal to lure Sarah Palin that would pay her millions.  </p>
<p>Psyche!</p>
<p>Hey, if the &#8220;Jericho 4ever&#8221; universe can be insane as hell, I should at least be able to get away with a 6th grade level of maturity.</p>
<p>P.S.  Reruns of Without a Trace are doing better on Tuesdays at 10pm than Jericho.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigmagoose, although this will do little to penetrate the rationality armor of crazy Jericho-ites, if Jericho was pre-empted by those popular NFL games in those two markets then the numbers in our overnight report for Jericho are going to go DOWN when the final numbers come in NOT UP. [Edit: That&#039;s because the overnight numbers above count anything that was broadcast on the CW affiliates during that time period, the final numbers will sort out what actually got watched.]

This explanation is meant more for those reading this who are not existing in the &quot;Jericho 4ever&quot; alternate universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigmagoose, although this will do little to penetrate the rationality armor of crazy Jericho-ites, if Jericho was pre-empted by those popular NFL games in those two markets then the numbers in our overnight report for Jericho are going to go DOWN when the final numbers come in NOT UP. [Edit: That's because the overnight numbers above count anything that was broadcast on the CW affiliates during that time period, the final numbers will sort out what actually got watched.]</p>
<p>This explanation is meant more for those reading this who are not existing in the &#8220;Jericho 4ever&#8221; alternate universe.</p>
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		<title>By: sigmagoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>sigmagoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jericho was preempted in NY and Pittsburgh, which explains the ratings drop.  Jericho is a quality show and is better than much of the stuff that the majority of America calls &quot;quality&quot; TV.   And in actuality, Jericho is doing better than what was previously in that time slot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jericho was preempted in NY and Pittsburgh, which explains the ratings drop.  Jericho is a quality show and is better than much of the stuff that the majority of America calls &#8220;quality&#8221; TV.   And in actuality, Jericho is doing better than what was previously in that time slot.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NFL is hard to beat. NBC had better enjoy the rest of the season.</description>
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		<title>By: cool</title>
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		<dc:creator>cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NBC is gonna mis SNF.</description>
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		<title>By: Throw a Shoe at Bush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Throw a Shoe at Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The game between the NYG and Dallas was dull and boring. NYG could not get anything going on offense. The only exciting thing was seeing both Manning and Romo get smashed to a pulp (really... how many times were both quarterbacks hit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The game between the NYG and Dallas was dull and boring. NYG could not get anything going on offense. The only exciting thing was seeing both Manning and Romo get smashed to a pulp (really&#8230; how many times were both quarterbacks hit).</p>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Pocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still like the Raiders even though I&#039;m not from the Bay Area, its just great to poke fun at them from time to time.

Its sad to see what the Raiders have become especially Al. Back in the 60s and 70s this was one of the dominate franchises and the kids growing up in this decade have to watch a bad team just like the Lions, but I do see these two franchises dominating or improving in the next decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still like the Raiders even though I&#8217;m not from the Bay Area, its just great to poke fun at them from time to time.</p>
<p>Its sad to see what the Raiders have become especially Al. Back in the 60s and 70s this was one of the dominate franchises and the kids growing up in this decade have to watch a bad team just like the Lions, but I do see these two franchises dominating or improving in the next decade.</p>
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