Comments on: Top CW Primetime Shows, December 8-14, 2008

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:47:25 +0000

Ok Robert just want all the viewers to be counted.

No disrespect meant.

You have to keep a close eye on Nielsen… (o_-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City

The New York metropolitan area’s population is also the nation’s highest, estimated at 19,750,000 people over 6,720 square miles (17,400 km2) in three states.[7]

By: clutz12001

clutz12001 — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:14:05 +0000

Mark, while I agree that there’s a special case in the Jericho December 14th episode, let’s not shoot the messengers here. Looking at the final ratings of previous weeks, Jericho held up comparably in final vs. overnight once all the other stuff was sorted out.

Given the Billy Graham special, and the Steelers/Ravens game overrun that carried into CW postgame activities as well as overall market share held at CBS, I’d suggest we don’t jump to conclusions, or make accusations, based on this one airing. Let’s see if the weekly ratings stay below 1MM, or if they can resume the 1.1-1.2MM range of previous weeks. I believe they’ll hover in that 1.2MM range, maybe even hit 1.5MM, when pre-emptions and football are not such big factors.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:10:07 +0000

Mark, you’re wrong about the size of the markets, indeed you are wrong about many things. New York PLUS Pittsburgh is less than 9 million.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/10/nielsen-local-television-market-universe-estimates/5037

You’re not wrong to assume Jericho’s numbers would’ve been higher had it aired in those markets, just in the scale of it. It still likely wouldn’t have hit a million viewers. and as I said, 800K or 1.1 million, for a rerun…who cares? I don’t. If you do fine. Have fun with that.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:02:18 +0000

So for the record Jericho was preempted in at least two markets New York and Pittsburgh and not for football but for a Billy Graham special was ran in its place.

Those are two HUGE markets that are missing from the Jericho numbers.

Would it had added more viewers… absolutely. The new York metropolitan area alone has a population of about 20 million people.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:52:54 +0000

It still boggles my mind they let SmackDown! go.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:13:02 +0000

Mark, there shouldn’t be a footnote. While it’s true New York is a huge market, it’s not like had it aired in New York the show would’ve had two million viewers.

This may shock you, but there are MULTIPLE preemptions, in multiple cities for multiple SHOWS (I know it will shock you that Jericho isn’t the only freaking show this impacts, because there’s such a conspiracy against Jericho fans!). There’s no way for us to track this, and Nielsen doesn’t supply us with anything like that and so instead of footnoting anything, we merely report actual viewing as reported by Nielsen.

But hey, if you want to start a blog that is a comprehensive list of every preemption in every local market, we’ll definitely link to it.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:51:45 +0000

Understand but there should be a foot note that Jericho was not aired in all markets. This is not a accurate comparison. New York and Pittsburgh are HUGE markets.

Mark

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:03:38 +0000

As Holly noted, these are the weekly FINAL ratings. Also Mark, you don’t understand how the overnight results are measured. There’s a lot of fine print explaining it in the overnight reports, it’s up to you to read it. In short, the overnight numbers measure all CW viewing in all markets (football viewing got *included* in those markets in the overnight report). In the final numbers (above) Nielsen strips out any viewing that wasn’t for the actual program.

By: Holly

Holly — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:54:29 +0000

Mark, These are the weekly ratings…they are posted every week. If you click on “CW” on the top menu bar, you can find the posts for the previous weeks.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:45:09 +0000

Interesting that you pick a week that Jericho was preempted in at least two major markets New York and Pittsburgh and only posted the first half hour ratings. According to your own site the ratings were 1.09 million for the second half hour and again at least two major markets missing.

How about a fair shake here?

The rating for the first week were 1.25 followed by a 1.13 and a 1.09 missing two markets.

Mark