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	<title>Comments on: Monday Ratings:  Obama press conference averages 36.9 million on broadcast nets</title>
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		<title>By: FrankJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Robert!  So do you think there&#039;s any merit to his fear?  My concern is that with all these missed weeks Chuck will get zero traction to hang on to the Super Bowl bump.  NBC may see it as wasted money and judge the show more harshly now when it comes time to look at renewal.

What kind of numbers do you expect Chuck to get if they can keep it on the schedule next Monday?  Or, maybe a better question, what would make NBC happy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Robert!  So do you think there&#8217;s any merit to his fear?  My concern is that with all these missed weeks Chuck will get zero traction to hang on to the Super Bowl bump.  NBC may see it as wasted money and judge the show more harshly now when it comes time to look at renewal.</p>
<p>What kind of numbers do you expect Chuck to get if they can keep it on the schedule next Monday?  Or, maybe a better question, what would make NBC happy?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, I saw them, it was from a panel at NYC&#039;s ComicCon here&#039;s the full context:

&lt;i&gt;A fan asked about the show&#039;s future. Josh and Chris noted how much they were promoted during the Super Bowl, and Josh said, &quot;It&#039;s feeling as positive as it can without saying it&#039;s actually coming back.&quot; Then we got into the unfortunate timing of the Obama press conference tomorrow, and the rumors that Obama may do yet another primetime address a week from Monday. &quot;Clearly, Obama&#039;s first plan as president was to destroy &#039;Chuck,&#039;&quot; Josh said, before noting that he hears the President may only speak for five minutes, which would allow &quot;Chuck&quot; to air more or less on time.&lt;/i&gt;

You can read more on Alan Sepinwall&#039;s blog:

http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/02/chuck-vs-comic-con.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, I saw them, it was from a panel at NYC&#8217;s ComicCon here&#8217;s the full context:</p>
<p><i>A fan asked about the show&#8217;s future. Josh and Chris noted how much they were promoted during the Super Bowl, and Josh said, &#8220;It&#8217;s feeling as positive as it can without saying it&#8217;s actually coming back.&#8221; Then we got into the unfortunate timing of the Obama press conference tomorrow, and the rumors that Obama may do yet another primetime address a week from Monday. &#8220;Clearly, Obama&#8217;s first plan as president was to destroy &#8216;Chuck,&#8217;&#8221; Josh said, before noting that he hears the President may only speak for five minutes, which would allow &#8220;Chuck&#8221; to air more or less on time.</i></p>
<p>You can read more on Alan Sepinwall&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/02/chuck-vs-comic-con.html" rel="nofollow">http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/02/chuck-vs-comic-con.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: FrankJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anybody seen the recent comments from Josh Schwartz talking about Chuck&#039;s bad luck in getting pre-empted for the Presidential speeches?  He made a joke that Obama&#039;s first act in office was apparently to destroy Chuck.  It&#039;s a testament to his frustration probably, because he is actively talking now about how they&#039;re trying to cram as much stuff into the second half of this season as they can because they really have no idea of a third season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody seen the recent comments from Josh Schwartz talking about Chuck&#8217;s bad luck in getting pre-empted for the Presidential speeches?  He made a joke that Obama&#8217;s first act in office was apparently to destroy Chuck.  It&#8217;s a testament to his frustration probably, because he is actively talking now about how they&#8217;re trying to cram as much stuff into the second half of this season as they can because they really have no idea of a third season.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Schmokey, thanks for carping.  I needed the laugh after a busy day of work.  I tend to agree with your point about lead-ins.  A show with high viewer interest such as The Bachelor can pull in double digit ratings whether following after Dancing With The Stars or before it.  Samantha Who, without DWTS, can&#039;t even reach an 8.0. When it returns, it will have to be in a timeslot immediately following a strong lead-in unless the &quot;funny&quot; has improved. Sometimes Samantha Who, like most sitcoms today, is all situation and little comedy.

I believe L O S T is as you put it; so strong in quality that the lack of a lead in doesn&#039;t hurt it.  But a strong lead in, even a mediocre lead in , would at least give it an advantage against its competition.

Life On Mars following L O S T had many chances to become a good show, but it was boring and bad-weird as opposed to cool/intriguing-weird like L O S T.  Thus many people, myself included, gave up on the series. Having nothing to watch Saturday night however, I watched my dvr&#039;ed programs. I was stunned by the excellence of LOM. It may be too late to salvage the show now unfortunately, but I&#039;m telling you the quality of last week&#039;s writing was impeccable.  It played out like a really, really good episode of CSI.  

I enjoyed Fringe as well.  It&#039;s another show I dvr&#039;ed last week that I had given up on after seeing so many boring ones.  The story of the sick man on a plane that transforms into some kind of werewolf monster, killing and causing the plane to crash was well done. It had my attention all the way to the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Schmokey, thanks for carping.  I needed the laugh after a busy day of work.  I tend to agree with your point about lead-ins.  A show with high viewer interest such as The Bachelor can pull in double digit ratings whether following after Dancing With The Stars or before it.  Samantha Who, without DWTS, can&#8217;t even reach an 8.0. When it returns, it will have to be in a timeslot immediately following a strong lead-in unless the &#8220;funny&#8221; has improved. Sometimes Samantha Who, like most sitcoms today, is all situation and little comedy.</p>
<p>I believe L O S T is as you put it; so strong in quality that the lack of a lead in doesn&#8217;t hurt it.  But a strong lead in, even a mediocre lead in , would at least give it an advantage against its competition.</p>
<p>Life On Mars following L O S T had many chances to become a good show, but it was boring and bad-weird as opposed to cool/intriguing-weird like L O S T.  Thus many people, myself included, gave up on the series. Having nothing to watch Saturday night however, I watched my dvr&#8217;ed programs. I was stunned by the excellence of LOM. It may be too late to salvage the show now unfortunately, but I&#8217;m telling you the quality of last week&#8217;s writing was impeccable.  It played out like a really, really good episode of CSI.  </p>
<p>I enjoyed Fringe as well.  It&#8217;s another show I dvr&#8217;ed last week that I had given up on after seeing so many boring ones.  The story of the sick man on a plane that transforms into some kind of werewolf monster, killing and causing the plane to crash was well done. It had my attention all the way to the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sarah, to be clear, we do see ratings for repeat episodes. What we don&#039;t see are overnight ratings for shows that don&#039;t air in the entire country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sarah, to be clear, we do see ratings for repeat episodes. What we don&#8217;t see are overnight ratings for shows that don&#8217;t air in the entire country.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24 loses in demos with heroes, that really bad for fox, but this bad result is probably because house wasnt airing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24 loses in demos with heroes, that really bad for fox, but this bad result is probably because house wasnt airing</p>
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		<title>By: Ant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the FOX shows in recent years are horrid and boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the FOX shows in recent years are horrid and boring.</p>
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		<title>By: entertainmenttodayandbeyond</title>
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		<dc:creator>entertainmenttodayandbeyond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24 was awesome. One of the best episodes in the series history!
Any rating over 10 million viwers nowadays is very good!



Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24 was awesome. One of the best episodes in the series history!<br />
Any rating over 10 million viwers nowadays is very good!</p>
<p>Chuck</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sarah, It still wouldn&#039;t give you an accurate picture of the Superbowl/3D effect because it wouldn&#039;t include half the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sarah, It still wouldn&#8217;t give you an accurate picture of the Superbowl/3D effect because it wouldn&#8217;t include half the country.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so they don&#039;t do ratings with repeats? darn i wanted to see how the 3d episode affected ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so they don&#8217;t do ratings with repeats? darn i wanted to see how the 3d episode affected ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to say, if Chuck Lorre couldn&#039;t hold his own lead-in, there&#039;s really something disturbingly wrong with the people who watch &quot;Two and a Half Men.&quot; 

Kudos to &quot;Big Bang&quot; -- the first genuinely funny multi-cam sitcom to come down the pike in years. And kudos to the writers for managing to have the laughs come from other things besides poop and farts (as on &quot;Two and a Half Men&quot;). 

Speaking of farts, now maybe the old ones who vote on the joke that has become the Emmys can start giving it the recognition it deserves, instead of wasting numerous slots on dross like &quot;Entourage&quot; or &quot;Pushing Daisies&quot; that have no business being called comedies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say, if Chuck Lorre couldn&#8217;t hold his own lead-in, there&#8217;s really something disturbingly wrong with the people who watch &#8220;Two and a Half Men.&#8221; </p>
<p>Kudos to &#8220;Big Bang&#8221; &#8212; the first genuinely funny multi-cam sitcom to come down the pike in years. And kudos to the writers for managing to have the laughs come from other things besides poop and farts (as on &#8220;Two and a Half Men&#8221;). </p>
<p>Speaking of farts, now maybe the old ones who vote on the joke that has become the Emmys can start giving it the recognition it deserves, instead of wasting numerous slots on dross like &#8220;Entourage&#8221; or &#8220;Pushing Daisies&#8221; that have no business being called comedies.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sarah, Chuck aired a repeat on the west coast, not a new episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sarah, Chuck aired a repeat on the west coast, not a new episode.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how did chuck do with &quot;chuck vs. the cougars&quot; on the west coast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how did chuck do with &#8220;chuck vs. the cougars&#8221; on the west coast?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>half hourly final #s between 9p-11pm (the Obama news conference was &quot;sustained&quot; which means we won&#039;t see those numbers in the weekly #s either) via Marc Berman&#039;s forums:


http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/244102981/p/5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>half hourly final #s between 9p-11pm (the Obama news conference was &#8220;sustained&#8221; which means we won&#8217;t see those numbers in the weekly #s either) via Marc Berman&#8217;s forums:</p>
<p><a href="http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/244102981/p/5" rel="nofollow">http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/244102981/p/5</a></p>
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		<title>By: cool</title>
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		<dc:creator>cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the finals are out and The Bachelor (4.3) beat CSI Miami (4.0) in the demo.  BBT had 4.5 of a 4.8 of Two and a Half Men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the finals are out and The Bachelor (4.3) beat CSI Miami (4.0) in the demo.  BBT had 4.5 of a 4.8 of Two and a Half Men.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hudson, read the information below on the methods for Fast Affiliate ratings. Nielsen&#039;s methods are the same every night, but for live events those methods can produce inaccurate results in these fast affiliate ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hudson, read the information below on the methods for Fast Affiliate ratings. Nielsen&#8217;s methods are the same every night, but for live events those methods can produce inaccurate results in these fast affiliate ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically the west coast numbers aren&#039;t in yet? Does Nielsen always count west coast numbers every week or only east coast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically the west coast numbers aren&#8217;t in yet? Does Nielsen always count west coast numbers every week or only east coast?</p>
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		<title>By: cdn</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schmokey, just look at Fringe’s ratings. Fairly mediocre premiere ratings but Fringe jumped significantly the following week when House had its own season premiere. And Fringe’s ratings were boosted even more when it got American Idol as a lead-in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schmokey, just look at Fringe’s ratings. Fairly mediocre premiere ratings but Fringe jumped significantly the following week when House had its own season premiere. And Fringe’s ratings were boosted even more when it got American Idol as a lead-in.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AHHH HEROES WAS AMAZING LAST NIGHT!!!!!!! wish the ratings were like they were in season one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AHHH HEROES WAS AMAZING LAST NIGHT!!!!!!! wish the ratings were like they were in season one</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scott, the CW doesn&#039;t do news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scott, the CW doesn&#8217;t do news.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not NBC that is to blame for HEROES stalled numbers.  It falls completely on the shoulders of the creators.  They try to sell Volume Two as good and then came out and told their audience that they didn&#039;t know how to watch TV and that they were in the process of &quot;reteaching them&quot; instead of admiting it was crap. THEN they come back out with the beginning of this season with some fourteen year old fangirl crack thinking THAT is what would sell. Even if they figured out what works this semi-season go-around it&#039;s a day late and a dollar short for many fas who have found  better to waste thier time on Monday night. Like balance their check books. Just sayin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not NBC that is to blame for HEROES stalled numbers.  It falls completely on the shoulders of the creators.  They try to sell Volume Two as good and then came out and told their audience that they didn&#8217;t know how to watch TV and that they were in the process of &#8220;reteaching them&#8221; instead of admiting it was crap. THEN they come back out with the beginning of this season with some fourteen year old fangirl crack thinking THAT is what would sell. Even if they figured out what works this semi-season go-around it&#8217;s a day late and a dollar short for many fas who have found  better to waste thier time on Monday night. Like balance their check books. Just sayin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Jocor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jocor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised so many people&#039;s enjoyment of 24 hinges on the reality of the real-time.  It&#039;s a gimmick?  Of course it&#039;s a gimmick.  It&#039;s still an exciting show though.  And I still love the character(s), that would be enough for ANY other show but because the real-time isn&#039;t real people won&#039;t watch it.  Of course it&#039;s not real!  how boring would that be?  At least the move to Washington D.C. made the unreasonable haste in transportation a bit more reasonable, I think anyway.

And I have a hard time saying that Heroes beat 24, when it beats it in the demo and yet no one is watching it.  The viewership is what speaks to the quality of the show, not the age demographic of its viewers.

I really think Heroes needs to go away.  It&#039;s NBC&#039;s only big hit, and it gets fewer viewers than Medium which is really in need of promotion because it actually has the capacity to be a big hit considering its NBCs only good show ... in my opinion of course.  If it wasn&#039;t for Medium, I would refuse to watch NBC.  Especially after they cancelled Las Vegas -- I hope they&#039;re regretting that now.  Considering that on its lowest ratings day, it had better ratings than Heroes.

I&#039;m sorry this turned into a directionless rant by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised so many people&#8217;s enjoyment of 24 hinges on the reality of the real-time.  It&#8217;s a gimmick?  Of course it&#8217;s a gimmick.  It&#8217;s still an exciting show though.  And I still love the character(s), that would be enough for ANY other show but because the real-time isn&#8217;t real people won&#8217;t watch it.  Of course it&#8217;s not real!  how boring would that be?  At least the move to Washington D.C. made the unreasonable haste in transportation a bit more reasonable, I think anyway.</p>
<p>And I have a hard time saying that Heroes beat 24, when it beats it in the demo and yet no one is watching it.  The viewership is what speaks to the quality of the show, not the age demographic of its viewers.</p>
<p>I really think Heroes needs to go away.  It&#8217;s NBC&#8217;s only big hit, and it gets fewer viewers than Medium which is really in need of promotion because it actually has the capacity to be a big hit considering its NBCs only good show &#8230; in my opinion of course.  If it wasn&#8217;t for Medium, I would refuse to watch NBC.  Especially after they cancelled Las Vegas &#8212; I hope they&#8217;re regretting that now.  Considering that on its lowest ratings day, it had better ratings than Heroes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry this turned into a directionless rant by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t the CW air President Obama Press Conference? Actually why do they never air anything like that?</description>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brent, they did not. That&#039;s why these numbers will change once they are time zone adjusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brent, they did not. That&#8217;s why these numbers will change once they are time zone adjusted.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in vancouver canada and I watched a rerun of chuck at 8pm on nbc. I don&#039;t think the networks ran the presser at 8pm in the west.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in vancouver canada and I watched a rerun of chuck at 8pm on nbc. I don&#8217;t think the networks ran the presser at 8pm in the west.</p>
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		<title>By: johnthemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnthemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agh! Heroes is back to it&#039;s november numbers! At least its beating 24. I&#039;m disappointed that people like &quot;The Bachelor&quot; better than Heroes. I mean seriously!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agh! Heroes is back to it&#8217;s november numbers! At least its beating 24. I&#8217;m disappointed that people like &#8220;The Bachelor&#8221; better than Heroes. I mean seriously!</p>
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		<title>By: Schmokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schmokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got so lost in carping (sorry, I&#039;ll try and keep that to a minimum) that I forgot to ask: Robert, are those series low numbers for 24?  The demos especially seem like they are sinking like a stone.

Next week&#039;s numbers will be interesting.  I&#039;m not certain that Obama&#039;s first press conference really did much to anyone&#039;s numbers.  It only ran 115 seconds over, I believe, and it generated ratings nearly as good, or better, than every show it replaced except House.  Maybe 24 lost a handful of people that would have watched House and then just sat their like zombies and watched 24, but that seems pretty unrealistic.  

If there is one thing this season and last have taught me, lead-ins are now compltely overrated and used like as crutch by every underperforming show on television.  The numbers for BB vs. WW last night should show you that.  Or take a look at the way Lie To Me is barely a hit even with the massive AI lead in.

Or take a look at how moving Life on Mars from a horrible lead in to a great one has made absolutely zero difference (well, some difference actually, LOM went down in the ratings).

In the Age of The Clicker, The Internet, and The Minisucle Attention Span (too short to even be called short), lead ins frequently are meaningless.

Again, look at Wed.  Lost has no lead in.  Lie to Me has the biggest lead in in television.  Yet the ratings for both are nearly identical.  You could say that Lost is just that much better of a show, or you could say that people simply watch what they want to watch regardless of what airs before or after it.

Anyone?  Anyone?  Anyone at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got so lost in carping (sorry, I&#8217;ll try and keep that to a minimum) that I forgot to ask: Robert, are those series low numbers for 24?  The demos especially seem like they are sinking like a stone.</p>
<p>Next week&#8217;s numbers will be interesting.  I&#8217;m not certain that Obama&#8217;s first press conference really did much to anyone&#8217;s numbers.  It only ran 115 seconds over, I believe, and it generated ratings nearly as good, or better, than every show it replaced except House.  Maybe 24 lost a handful of people that would have watched House and then just sat their like zombies and watched 24, but that seems pretty unrealistic.  </p>
<p>If there is one thing this season and last have taught me, lead-ins are now compltely overrated and used like as crutch by every underperforming show on television.  The numbers for BB vs. WW last night should show you that.  Or take a look at the way Lie To Me is barely a hit even with the massive AI lead in.</p>
<p>Or take a look at how moving Life on Mars from a horrible lead in to a great one has made absolutely zero difference (well, some difference actually, LOM went down in the ratings).</p>
<p>In the Age of The Clicker, The Internet, and The Minisucle Attention Span (too short to even be called short), lead ins frequently are meaningless.</p>
<p>Again, look at Wed.  Lost has no lead in.  Lie to Me has the biggest lead in in television.  Yet the ratings for both are nearly identical.  You could say that Lost is just that much better of a show, or you could say that people simply watch what they want to watch regardless of what airs before or after it.</p>
<p>Anyone?  Anyone?  Anyone at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schmokey, 24 has gone more and more ludicrous in their handling of &quot;real time,&quot; as they&#039;ve added Executive Producers.  They have what 30 Executive Producers now?  

The show has gone from slight Real Time issues to the absurd.  Last night&#039;s episode had to be the all time leader in absurdity of what Bauer could do in not just an hour but in 42 minutes.  Yes, he had 42 minutes to find the kidnappers of the First Dude.  42 minutes.  In that time he had to go meet an FBI agent, figure out which SS agent was the bad one and track them down, get the info, then get to where they were holding the First Dude.  In 42 minutes.  

Lets not even get into the fact that the bad guy gave the President 50 minutes to have her forces &quot;withdraw.&quot;  Do you have any idea how long that would take for it to look like they were withdrawing?  A lot longer than 50 minutes.  

The Jack Bauer Power Hour is about absurdity.  You have to embrace the absurdity.  Cuddle up to it.  Otherwise you&#039;ll just make yourself feel bad.  I enjoy it because of the absurdity it just fits with it all.

24 is only losing viewers because of HEROES.  HEROES wasn&#039;t on during the first episodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schmokey, 24 has gone more and more ludicrous in their handling of &#8220;real time,&#8221; as they&#8217;ve added Executive Producers.  They have what 30 Executive Producers now?  </p>
<p>The show has gone from slight Real Time issues to the absurd.  Last night&#8217;s episode had to be the all time leader in absurdity of what Bauer could do in not just an hour but in 42 minutes.  Yes, he had 42 minutes to find the kidnappers of the First Dude.  42 minutes.  In that time he had to go meet an FBI agent, figure out which SS agent was the bad one and track them down, get the info, then get to where they were holding the First Dude.  In 42 minutes.  </p>
<p>Lets not even get into the fact that the bad guy gave the President 50 minutes to have her forces &#8220;withdraw.&#8221;  Do you have any idea how long that would take for it to look like they were withdrawing?  A lot longer than 50 minutes.  </p>
<p>The Jack Bauer Power Hour is about absurdity.  You have to embrace the absurdity.  Cuddle up to it.  Otherwise you&#8217;ll just make yourself feel bad.  I enjoy it because of the absurdity it just fits with it all.</p>
<p>24 is only losing viewers because of HEROES.  HEROES wasn&#8217;t on during the first episodes.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and to Bill&#039;s point (that was &lt;b&gt;in bold&lt;/b&gt; so you wouldn&#039;t miss it), usually there is not a presidential press conference on at 8pm as a lead-in, so paying close attention to the absolute numbers for the night isn&#039;t worth much.  But, yes, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and to Bill&#8217;s point (that was <b>in bold</b> so you wouldn&#8217;t miss it), usually there is not a presidential press conference on at 8pm as a lead-in, so paying close attention to the absolute numbers for the night isn&#8217;t worth much.  But, yes, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: tooltip86</title>
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		<dc:creator>tooltip86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure that heroes got 3.3 on R18-34? Usually Heroes got 0.3 or 0.4 more than R8-49</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure that heroes got 3.3 on R18-34? Usually Heroes got 0.3 or 0.4 more than R8-49</p>
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		<title>By: David4</title>
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		<dc:creator>David4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw Jay Leno, NBC needs to give Obama more screen time.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw Jay Leno, NBC needs to give Obama more screen time.  <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I will keep an eye out for the final numbers later today and post them either in the main body of the post or in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I will keep an eye out for the final numbers later today and post them either in the main body of the post or in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I see the final numbers?</description>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay i am happy for Big bang theory it deserves it

that show is hilarious and much better than the Hyped HIMYM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay i am happy for Big bang theory it deserves it</p>
<p>that show is hilarious and much better than the Hyped HIMYM</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those numbers for TBBT is the nail in the coffin for Worst Week. I wonder how Rules would perform outside the 9:30 slot. My guess is worse than TBBT. TBBT, Mother, Rules, and 2.5 men are all hit shows now; CBS has quite the tough task scheduling them to maximize ratings/profits; a task I&#039;m sure the other networks are jealous of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those numbers for TBBT is the nail in the coffin for Worst Week. I wonder how Rules would perform outside the 9:30 slot. My guess is worse than TBBT. TBBT, Mother, Rules, and 2.5 men are all hit shows now; CBS has quite the tough task scheduling them to maximize ratings/profits; a task I&#8217;m sure the other networks are jealous of.</p>
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		<title>By: idizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>idizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NBC obviously could not win the Obama hour, because ABC wasn&#039;t airing Pushing Daisies. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NBC obviously could not win the Obama hour, because ABC wasn&#8217;t airing Pushing Daisies. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor NBC couldn&#039;t even win the Obama press conference timeslot.</description>
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		<title>By: Don M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than try to launch a new sitcom inbetween Men and CSI:M either put BBT or HIMYM in that slot.  Also the odd one out should lead off the night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than try to launch a new sitcom inbetween Men and CSI:M either put BBT or HIMYM in that slot.  Also the odd one out should lead off the night.</p>
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		<title>By: Schmokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schmokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24 is now down almost 20% in both rating and demos from the premiere, and over 25% from it&#039;s high water mark during Hour 3-4.  I&#039;m revising my prediction from the premiere.  I now think a prediction of a 30% drop by the end of the season was too cautious.  I&#039;m betting it drops down to 8.0 and 2.0 or less by season&#039;s end.

Also it&#039;s down 80% in brain cells from any other season of the show, even though most of the past seasons had very few cells to being with.

I like how last night Larry managed to hang up his phone, run down a hallway, pull all the classified phone logs on two secret service agents AND their personnel files, download everything to his PDA, and then get to the reflecting pool---all in under 120 seconds.  And here I thought the shortcuts they took with geography were ludicrous.

Of course, when it comes to crazy things that render the show&#039;s real time gimmick meaningless, the cake must be taken by the last episode ending with Jack and Company telling the president they were coming in at 2:58, and then this episode opened with them being led into the OVAL FRICKING OFFICE at 3:04.  

Yeah, I know, why the hell am I still watching?  Why am I not one of the 20%?

I can&#039;t say, but it obviously speaks to a deep flaw in my character.  Some part of me must just love car crashes.  At least I can say that I truly am ashamed by it.  Thank God I admit all of this here under a pseudonym. :)

Hopefully next week is the week where I do not watch.  I need some self respect back.

By the way, for a show that was supposed to be touching on the idea of torture in the world today, the show seems to be spending an inordinate amount of time creating completely ridiculous scenarios that allow them to not only justify torture but also to speak to its virtues.  Even Captain Kangaroo would approve Jack&#039;s methods under the asinine situations these writers manage to invent.

And how stupid do torture critics look when they are represented by characters who get in a huff over Jack&#039;s plan to PRETEND to torture someone when they only have 45 minutes until the First Dude is executed?  This show is fair and balanced like Fox News is an arm of the DNC.

Still loving me some President Exposition, I must say.  Still waiting for the first White House scene that isn&#039;t pure exposition. I&#039;m hoping there never is one.  That would be a new record.  

It&#039;s amazing to me that 24, where maybe two new things happen each hour, needs more exposition in one episode than Lost needs in an entire season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24 is now down almost 20% in both rating and demos from the premiere, and over 25% from it&#8217;s high water mark during Hour 3-4.  I&#8217;m revising my prediction from the premiere.  I now think a prediction of a 30% drop by the end of the season was too cautious.  I&#8217;m betting it drops down to 8.0 and 2.0 or less by season&#8217;s end.</p>
<p>Also it&#8217;s down 80% in brain cells from any other season of the show, even though most of the past seasons had very few cells to being with.</p>
<p>I like how last night Larry managed to hang up his phone, run down a hallway, pull all the classified phone logs on two secret service agents AND their personnel files, download everything to his PDA, and then get to the reflecting pool&#8212;all in under 120 seconds.  And here I thought the shortcuts they took with geography were ludicrous.</p>
<p>Of course, when it comes to crazy things that render the show&#8217;s real time gimmick meaningless, the cake must be taken by the last episode ending with Jack and Company telling the president they were coming in at 2:58, and then this episode opened with them being led into the OVAL FRICKING OFFICE at 3:04.  </p>
<p>Yeah, I know, why the hell am I still watching?  Why am I not one of the 20%?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say, but it obviously speaks to a deep flaw in my character.  Some part of me must just love car crashes.  At least I can say that I truly am ashamed by it.  Thank God I admit all of this here under a pseudonym. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hopefully next week is the week where I do not watch.  I need some self respect back.</p>
<p>By the way, for a show that was supposed to be touching on the idea of torture in the world today, the show seems to be spending an inordinate amount of time creating completely ridiculous scenarios that allow them to not only justify torture but also to speak to its virtues.  Even Captain Kangaroo would approve Jack&#8217;s methods under the asinine situations these writers manage to invent.</p>
<p>And how stupid do torture critics look when they are represented by characters who get in a huff over Jack&#8217;s plan to PRETEND to torture someone when they only have 45 minutes until the First Dude is executed?  This show is fair and balanced like Fox News is an arm of the DNC.</p>
<p>Still loving me some President Exposition, I must say.  Still waiting for the first White House scene that isn&#8217;t pure exposition. I&#8217;m hoping there never is one.  That would be a new record.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing to me that 24, where maybe two new things happen each hour, needs more exposition in one episode than Lost needs in an entire season.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, The Bachelor outperforming 24 and Heroes seems in no way unique to last night, and will not change with the final numbers.  While I wouldn&#039;t read too much into 24 and Heroes absolute numbers, relatively speaking it&#039;s  not a lot different than last week and likely not much different than next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, The Bachelor outperforming 24 and Heroes seems in no way unique to last night, and will not change with the final numbers.  While I wouldn&#8217;t read too much into 24 and Heroes absolute numbers, relatively speaking it&#8217;s  not a lot different than last week and likely not much different than next week.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it had 2.5 million less overall viewers than 24, Heroes still won in the key demos. Given the state of NBC, I don&#039;t think they have anything to worry about yet. Maybe if Kings and Southland become major hits, but how likely is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it had 2.5 million less overall viewers than 24, Heroes still won in the key demos. Given the state of NBC, I don&#8217;t think they have anything to worry about yet. Maybe if Kings and Southland become major hits, but how likely is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heroes is watched by too many around the world for NBC to not let it reach 100 episodes.  

NBC needs to find the right situation for Chuck and Heroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heroes is watched by too many around the world for NBC to not let it reach 100 episodes.  </p>
<p>NBC needs to find the right situation for Chuck and Heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Several reasons not to read too much into to Monday&#039;s numbers. 
First of all, the numbers above will be adjusted, perhaps significantly because of the live address, which was on 4 networks.
Second, once the numbers are final,  the audiences at 8-9 PM for the speech were not the typical audiences for those networks (for example, House would have drawn far more viewers and 18-49s for Fox) so the 9pm show numbers are likely a unique situation.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Several reasons not to read too much into to Monday&#8217;s numbers.<br />
First of all, the numbers above will be adjusted, perhaps significantly because of the live address, which was on 4 networks.<br />
Second, once the numbers are final,  the audiences at 8-9 PM for the speech were not the typical audiences for those networks (for example, House would have drawn far more viewers and 18-49s for Fox) so the 9pm show numbers are likely a unique situation.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Jocor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jocor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think 24 piqued to early...it piqued last night.  The season is resetting itself quickly and often that&#039;s true, but I&#039;m kind of glad of that because the story-lines presented so far while having their moments have been less than extraordinary.  The writing so far has been REALLY solid unlike the erratic crap-fest in season 6 but hasn&#039;t had the wrenching drama 24 is known for, or even all that much action.  I thought 24 would have been back full-swing if the red head tortured the baby but I suppose there&#039;s some things even the 24 writers aren&#039;t comfortable with doing.

At any rate, 24 was down slightly because it didn&#039;t have House.  So as far as I can tell 24 is at a series average ratings-wise.  It&#039;s too bad when it was at it&#039;s very very best, in terms of ratings and emmys back during the Logan administration, we got the Palmer 2 administration and he took us down, down, down, til the flames grew higher, and it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire...the ring of fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think 24 piqued to early&#8230;it piqued last night.  The season is resetting itself quickly and often that&#8217;s true, but I&#8217;m kind of glad of that because the story-lines presented so far while having their moments have been less than extraordinary.  The writing so far has been REALLY solid unlike the erratic crap-fest in season 6 but hasn&#8217;t had the wrenching drama 24 is known for, or even all that much action.  I thought 24 would have been back full-swing if the red head tortured the baby but I suppose there&#8217;s some things even the 24 writers aren&#8217;t comfortable with doing.</p>
<p>At any rate, 24 was down slightly because it didn&#8217;t have House.  So as far as I can tell 24 is at a series average ratings-wise.  It&#8217;s too bad when it was at it&#8217;s very very best, in terms of ratings and emmys back during the Logan administration, we got the Palmer 2 administration and he took us down, down, down, til the flames grew higher, and it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire&#8230;the ring of fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Fin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least it beat 24... personally i don&#039;t think Heroes should plan an exist this season or the next</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least it beat 24&#8230; personally i don&#8217;t think Heroes should plan an exist this season or the next</p>
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		<title>By: Fin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No! really hoped Heroes would remain above 8.mil and get better demos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No! really hoped Heroes would remain above 8.mil and get better demos</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Obama speech could have affected 24 ratings. Since Fox had less viewers than other network, maybe it did something. We&#039;ll se next week I guess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Obama speech could have affected 24 ratings. Since Fox had less viewers than other network, maybe it did something. We&#8217;ll se next week I guess</p>
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		<title>By: R.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and i still can&#039;t spell...Argh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and i still can&#8217;t spell&#8230;Argh!</p>
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		<title>By: R.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um yest the  President took the whole hour then went to nearly 2 minutes into the NEXT hour</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um yest the  President took the whole hour then went to nearly 2 minutes into the NEXT hour</p>
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