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	<title>Comments on: Dollhouse and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Nielsen ratings termination speculation!</title>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, I can&#039;t recall the last time I saw a single promo for &quot;Dollhouse&quot; that wasn&#039;t tied in with &quot;Terminator.&quot; (&quot;Terminator,&quot; of course, had a standalone promotional campaign when it premiered.) I saw comparatively few during &quot;American Idol. Nothing even close to what they ran for &quot;Lie to Me.&quot;

Didn&#039;t pay much attention to Reilly&#039;s tenure at NBC, I guess. He cancelled hits. He renewed flops. He tried to kill &quot;The Biggest Loser&quot; -- which is now NBC&#039;s highest-rated show. His network-speak for why FOX sent &quot;Dollhouse&quot; straight to Friday without giving it so much as a single airing out of &quot;Idol&quot; (or anything anybody might watch) said it all as to what FOX thinks of it. Which is to say, nothing.  

But, by all means, keep on throwing a banner celebration after one whole airing. Clearly, all the negative reactions to the premiere aren&#039;t going to negatively affect the ratings or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, I can&#8217;t recall the last time I saw a single promo for &#8220;Dollhouse&#8221; that wasn&#8217;t tied in with &#8220;Terminator.&#8221; (&#8220;Terminator,&#8221; of course, had a standalone promotional campaign when it premiered.) I saw comparatively few during &#8220;American Idol. Nothing even close to what they ran for &#8220;Lie to Me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t pay much attention to Reilly&#8217;s tenure at NBC, I guess. He cancelled hits. He renewed flops. He tried to kill &#8220;The Biggest Loser&#8221; &#8212; which is now NBC&#8217;s highest-rated show. His network-speak for why FOX sent &#8220;Dollhouse&#8221; straight to Friday without giving it so much as a single airing out of &#8220;Idol&#8221; (or anything anybody might watch) said it all as to what FOX thinks of it. Which is to say, nothing.  </p>
<p>But, by all means, keep on throwing a banner celebration after one whole airing. Clearly, all the negative reactions to the premiere aren&#8217;t going to negatively affect the ratings or anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how sure of this are u Nick? ur not just messing with us are u?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how sure of this are u Nick? ur not just messing with us are u?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining. 
I&#039;m a bit confused though... Is what your saying though that the ultimate result could be that new episodes of TSCC would air on Sci-Fi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining.<br />
I&#8217;m a bit confused though&#8230; Is what your saying though that the ultimate result could be that new episodes of TSCC would air on Sci-Fi?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel P, considering picking up?  Not yet.  Showing interest in the future of the show, yes.  It&#039;s still a FOX show.  People from Warner have asked around at Universal about the prospect.  There is interest.  So no serious talks yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel P, considering picking up?  Not yet.  Showing interest in the future of the show, yes.  It&#8217;s still a FOX show.  People from Warner have asked around at Universal about the prospect.  There is interest.  So no serious talks yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, really? So Sci-Fi is actually considering picking up TSCC for future season(s)? Suh-WEET! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, really? So Sci-Fi is actually considering picking up TSCC for future season(s)? Suh-WEET! <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel, TSCC.  It&#039;s got a low cost and getting 1.5M viewers would be more than acceptable for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, TSCC.  It&#8217;s got a low cost and getting 1.5M viewers would be more than acceptable for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick C: &quot;This is most definitely a show that SCI FI would be interested in though. I’ve already begun to hear that “buzz,” (and not from fanatical fans).&quot;

To which show are you referring? Terminator or Dollhouse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick C: &#8220;This is most definitely a show that SCI FI would be interested in though. I’ve already begun to hear that “buzz,” (and not from fanatical fans).&#8221;</p>
<p>To which show are you referring? Terminator or Dollhouse?</p>
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		<title>By: skippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did somebody say Summer Glau in a bikini????</description>
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		<title>By: Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicks absolutely right.</description>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riff, you&#039;ve now entered the realm of fantasy.  DOLLHOUSE had &quot;little promotion?&quot;  That is fantasy.  It averaged 2 commercials an hour and sometimes as many as 3 during all of the big FOX shows:  HOUSE, AMERICAN IDOL, BONES, FRINGE, etc.  They massively promoted the premiere.

The real question is which one will they drop the one that ISN&#039;T making them money or the one that IS.  As long as TSCC is in such low demos FOX is not happy.  

Reilly wouldn&#039;t be lying either.  Since he made an agreement with Warner that all of it would be shown as LONG AS.  Since it isn&#039;t meeting its agreement, that isn&#039;t lying.  

I&#039;m not a &quot;fan,&quot; of DOLLHOUSE.  It&#039;s average TV with some above average to good episodes coming.  Thats it.  I am a fan of Friday Night no longer being a death sentence on FOX (and other networks).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riff, you&#8217;ve now entered the realm of fantasy.  DOLLHOUSE had &#8220;little promotion?&#8221;  That is fantasy.  It averaged 2 commercials an hour and sometimes as many as 3 during all of the big FOX shows:  HOUSE, AMERICAN IDOL, BONES, FRINGE, etc.  They massively promoted the premiere.</p>
<p>The real question is which one will they drop the one that ISN&#8217;T making them money or the one that IS.  As long as TSCC is in such low demos FOX is not happy.  </p>
<p>Reilly wouldn&#8217;t be lying either.  Since he made an agreement with Warner that all of it would be shown as LONG AS.  Since it isn&#8217;t meeting its agreement, that isn&#8217;t lying.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a &#8220;fan,&#8221; of DOLLHOUSE.  It&#8217;s average TV with some above average to good episodes coming.  Thats it.  I am a fan of Friday Night no longer being a death sentence on FOX (and other networks).</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see why Nick&#039;s a fan of &quot;Dollhouse.&quot; His posts have moved into the realm of science fiction. 

If Reilly is lying (it&#039;s happened) and one (not both) of these shows is pulled before all the episodes have run, which one do we suppose it would be? The one which FOX premiered with an NFC playoffs game as its lead-in? With truckloads upon truckloads of promotion? And initially aired on a night that wasn&#039;t their equivalent of dead air? A night it would surely still be on were it not for the fact that it tanked? Or the one which FOX intended to premiere on a night that wasn&#039;t their equivalent of dead air before dumping it on Friday with little promotion -- with the aforementioned show that tanked as its lead-in? Because nothing says &quot;great internal support&quot; like the latter. 

I can tell you one way Reilly clearly was lying. By trying to get people to buy that Joss Whedon&#039;s latest pile of vomit wasn&#039;t written off by FOX before it premiered. So written off that the ratings are irrelevant. To anyone who bought that, I&#039;m sure he was a bridge somewhere in Brooklyn he&#039;d love to sell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see why Nick&#8217;s a fan of &#8220;Dollhouse.&#8221; His posts have moved into the realm of science fiction. </p>
<p>If Reilly is lying (it&#8217;s happened) and one (not both) of these shows is pulled before all the episodes have run, which one do we suppose it would be? The one which FOX premiered with an NFC playoffs game as its lead-in? With truckloads upon truckloads of promotion? And initially aired on a night that wasn&#8217;t their equivalent of dead air? A night it would surely still be on were it not for the fact that it tanked? Or the one which FOX intended to premiere on a night that wasn&#8217;t their equivalent of dead air before dumping it on Friday with little promotion &#8212; with the aforementioned show that tanked as its lead-in? Because nothing says &#8220;great internal support&#8221; like the latter. </p>
<p>I can tell you one way Reilly clearly was lying. By trying to get people to buy that Joss Whedon&#8217;s latest pile of vomit wasn&#8217;t written off by FOX before it premiered. So written off that the ratings are irrelevant. To anyone who bought that, I&#8217;m sure he was a bridge somewhere in Brooklyn he&#8217;d love to sell you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick C, where have u heard this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick C, where have u heard this?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is most definitely a show that SCI FI would be interested in though.  I&#039;ve already begun to hear that &quot;buzz,&quot; (and not from fanatical fans).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is most definitely a show that SCI FI would be interested in though.  I&#8217;ve already begun to hear that &#8220;buzz,&#8221; (and not from fanatical fans).</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, the reason they would bother airing repeats of House or whatever is because they could get similar or better demos for less money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, the reason they would bother airing repeats of House or whatever is because they could get similar or better demos for less money.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX might aswell air all the eps. i mean why bother airing repeats of house or whatever. its a pity Josh Friedman didnt write this yr finale as a series finale. it will be hard to watch the episode knowing the series wont have a proper ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX might aswell air all the eps. i mean why bother airing repeats of house or whatever. its a pity Josh Friedman didnt write this yr finale as a series finale. it will be hard to watch the episode knowing the series wont have a proper ending.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terminator is a show you can watch once a while and that&#039;s enough. The end of each episode doesn&#039;t entice me to watch the next, so I DVR Terminator and try and save it by watching it same day but most of the time i sleep when it&#039;s on, although Prison Break is a entirely different genre, it seems a better fit for Dollhouse and there is the consensus that Prion break fans are more loyal, in a way I think that&#039;s true. I really think Fox should be looking to giving Prison Break the 8pm slot earlier than planned as Prion Break is a different genre from everything that is on Tv on Friday nights and it could perform better than some expect due to it being more male driven and different to what&#039;s on other networks that night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terminator is a show you can watch once a while and that&#8217;s enough. The end of each episode doesn&#8217;t entice me to watch the next, so I DVR Terminator and try and save it by watching it same day but most of the time i sleep when it&#8217;s on, although Prison Break is a entirely different genre, it seems a better fit for Dollhouse and there is the consensus that Prion break fans are more loyal, in a way I think that&#8217;s true. I really think Fox should be looking to giving Prison Break the 8pm slot earlier than planned as Prion Break is a different genre from everything that is on Tv on Friday nights and it could perform better than some expect due to it being more male driven and different to what&#8217;s on other networks that night.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken-Chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken-Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TSCC is just plain AWFUL, it&#039;s fans are all 15 year old misfits that have identified with the show.  Richard wants more realism and for a boy to start having a romance with a SEX-BOT.   Josh said that is the one thing he would never do , to bring this hallowed franchise even lower.  Thanks for something.
Its also all the foreign input from illegal torrent viewings that have muddled the water for what the true American Terminator Fans wants.   If your not from the USA, we don&#039;t care what you think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TSCC is just plain AWFUL, it&#8217;s fans are all 15 year old misfits that have identified with the show.  Richard wants more realism and for a boy to start having a romance with a SEX-BOT.   Josh said that is the one thing he would never do , to bring this hallowed franchise even lower.  Thanks for something.<br />
Its also all the foreign input from illegal torrent viewings that have muddled the water for what the true American Terminator Fans wants.   If your not from the USA, we don&#8217;t care what you think!</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that deal with salvation cant even save this show.They had the potentional ecept they will never use it to its full potentiol because they think what they are doing is right when the ratings and other wise say other wise.I gave this show a chance ecept after this season i say its better to just let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that deal with salvation cant even save this show.They had the potentional ecept they will never use it to its full potentiol because they think what they are doing is right when the ratings and other wise say other wise.I gave this show a chance ecept after this season i say its better to just let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Steven Hack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Steven Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 04:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Fox will give Terminator another chance because of the T-4 movie coming out in May. Even though they&#039;ve done nothing to tie it in, the obvious possibility is that if T-4 is as big as they say it will be, the possibility of a &quot;surge&quot; in viewers for the series is there.

If the show picks up a bit over the next couple weeks, at least back up to the 5 or 5.5 million it did on Mondays, I think Fox will keep it. Especially if it finishes the season strong. 

The problem with the first 13 episodes was the edict to have more &quot;stand alone&quot; episodes, which damaged the intensity and progression of the overall story arc, no matter how Josh Friedman says it was because he wanted to dole it out slowly. When you don&#039;t know if you&#039;re going to get another season, you don&#039;t dole out your best stuff slowly.

In the back nine, allegedly that edict has been lifted and we are promised a lot more action, more resolution of things from the first part and even season one, and a strong finish which will supposedly leave fans panting for a third season.

So we&#039;ll see. Personally I feel this show could, if it added more realism and pushed the envelope a bit, could set a high water mark for sci-fi on broadcast TV that would last for a decade. So far, they haven&#039;t measured up - but the potential is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Fox will give Terminator another chance because of the T-4 movie coming out in May. Even though they&#8217;ve done nothing to tie it in, the obvious possibility is that if T-4 is as big as they say it will be, the possibility of a &#8220;surge&#8221; in viewers for the series is there.</p>
<p>If the show picks up a bit over the next couple weeks, at least back up to the 5 or 5.5 million it did on Mondays, I think Fox will keep it. Especially if it finishes the season strong. </p>
<p>The problem with the first 13 episodes was the edict to have more &#8220;stand alone&#8221; episodes, which damaged the intensity and progression of the overall story arc, no matter how Josh Friedman says it was because he wanted to dole it out slowly. When you don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re going to get another season, you don&#8217;t dole out your best stuff slowly.</p>
<p>In the back nine, allegedly that edict has been lifted and we are promised a lot more action, more resolution of things from the first part and even season one, and a strong finish which will supposedly leave fans panting for a third season.</p>
<p>So we&#8217;ll see. Personally I feel this show could, if it added more realism and pushed the envelope a bit, could set a high water mark for sci-fi on broadcast TV that would last for a decade. So far, they haven&#8217;t measured up &#8211; but the potential is there.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I was using BOM. I was just referring to opening day, since that&#039;s the only part of the weekend that could have affected the Friday ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I was using BOM. I was just referring to opening day, since that&#8217;s the only part of the weekend that could have affected the Friday ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Shea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edit: I&#039;m sorry Julia, didn&#039;t mean to brag numbers. I was wrong with this one. I was going off of the original post from Nikke Finke from Deadlinehollywooddaily.com, but she edited the record breaking numbers out, except for #1 Best OD for PD weekend.

I ususally know numbers for Movies and TV because I love numbers like that and Movies and Television.

Sorry Julia, I&#039;ll recheck my sources better next time.

(PS I usually use Boxofficemojo.com, futoncritic.com, tvbythenumbers.com, and deadlinehollywooddaily, for most of my information.)

Check out boxofficemojo, its a good site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edit: I&#8217;m sorry Julia, didn&#8217;t mean to brag numbers. I was wrong with this one. I was going off of the original post from Nikke Finke from Deadlinehollywooddaily.com, but she edited the record breaking numbers out, except for #1 Best OD for PD weekend.</p>
<p>I ususally know numbers for Movies and TV because I love numbers like that and Movies and Television.</p>
<p>Sorry Julia, I&#8217;ll recheck my sources better next time.</p>
<p>(PS I usually use Boxofficemojo.com, futoncritic.com, tvbythenumbers.com, and deadlinehollywooddaily, for most of my information.)</p>
<p>Check out boxofficemojo, its a good site.</p>
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		<title>By: Shea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edit: Passion of Christ has OW february record. My Bad.

And F13 has a better chance to beat Hannibal because of VDay attached to its saturday, plus President&#039;s Day weekend to go along with it. But, Right now if it beats Hannibal, then it will be the #1 Horror OW ever and #1 President&#039;s Day OW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edit: Passion of Christ has OW february record. My Bad.</p>
<p>And F13 has a better chance to beat Hannibal because of VDay attached to its saturday, plus President&#8217;s Day weekend to go along with it. But, Right now if it beats Hannibal, then it will be the #1 Horror OW ever and #1 President&#8217;s Day OW</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and it turns out I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; know about horror. It&#039;ll come in third behind Signs and The Village.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and it turns out I <i>do</i> know about horror. It&#8217;ll come in third behind Signs and The Village.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shea, while I don&#039;t know about #1 horror movie or Friday the 13th movie (though a friend of mine told me it came in 2nd, though I cannot verify that) The Passion of the Christ opened in February with $26.5 mil. That was a Wednesday, so I suppose that doesn&#039;t count? (Even though its Friday box office was over $22 mil.) We&#039;ll have to wait for Monday to see if Friday the 13th beat Hannibal for best Friday opening in February, but so far it&#039;s trailing. Hannibal was nearly $19.3, to Friday the 13th&#039;s $19.05.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shea, while I don&#8217;t know about #1 horror movie or Friday the 13th movie (though a friend of mine told me it came in 2nd, though I cannot verify that) The Passion of the Christ opened in February with $26.5 mil. That was a Wednesday, so I suppose that doesn&#8217;t count? (Even though its Friday box office was over $22 mil.) We&#8217;ll have to wait for Monday to see if Friday the 13th beat Hannibal for best Friday opening in February, but so far it&#8217;s trailing. Hannibal was nearly $19.3, to Friday the 13th&#8217;s $19.05.</p>
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		<title>By: Shea</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/02/14/dollhouse-and-terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-nielsen-ratings-termination-speculation/12845/comment-page-1/#comment-50341</link>
		<dc:creator>Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to julia and jimmy. 19 million is a record breaking Opening night for Friday the 13th. It boasts the #1 Opening Day ever for a horror movie. It holds the top spot for #1 Opening Day ever for any February. It looks to have the #1 President&#039;s Day Opening ever beating out Ghost Rider&#039;s Impressive 45 million.

So yes, Friday the 13th broke many records last night.

As for the television ratings. I loved Dollhouse and Terminator last night. Dollhouse may even be given the chance of a post-idol slot for one special episode if it continues a 2.0 range to see how it can do on a &quot;real&quot; night. As for TSCC, I hope Fox will air all the episodes of the season and make sure the series finale is good. Same with PB, I think Prison Break deserves a good series finale to finish on a good note, instead of two crappy seasons back-to-back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to julia and jimmy. 19 million is a record breaking Opening night for Friday the 13th. It boasts the #1 Opening Day ever for a horror movie. It holds the top spot for #1 Opening Day ever for any February. It looks to have the #1 President&#8217;s Day Opening ever beating out Ghost Rider&#8217;s Impressive 45 million.</p>
<p>So yes, Friday the 13th broke many records last night.</p>
<p>As for the television ratings. I loved Dollhouse and Terminator last night. Dollhouse may even be given the chance of a post-idol slot for one special episode if it continues a 2.0 range to see how it can do on a &#8220;real&#8221; night. As for TSCC, I hope Fox will air all the episodes of the season and make sure the series finale is good. Same with PB, I think Prison Break deserves a good series finale to finish on a good note, instead of two crappy seasons back-to-back</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riff, that was before they knew TSCC would get a 1.3 in the demo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riff, that was before they knew TSCC would get a 1.3 in the demo.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia/Jimmy, it may well be a February record or a Presidents Day weekend record or record for a horror remake starring some guy from the CW record or....

TSCC:  If it doesn&#039;t jump to a 1.5 next Friday then we may see COPS or something else in its time slot in the near future.

DOLLHOUSE:  I expect a drop to 1.8 next episode, but the C3 numbers will likely keep the show the 2nd or 3rd highest Demo grabber for the night on Network TV.  That is enough for it to be renewed.  That is a success for FOX.  It also fits in their hopes of giving DOLLHOUSE time to grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia/Jimmy, it may well be a February record or a Presidents Day weekend record or record for a horror remake starring some guy from the CW record or&#8230;.</p>
<p>TSCC:  If it doesn&#8217;t jump to a 1.5 next Friday then we may see COPS or something else in its time slot in the near future.</p>
<p>DOLLHOUSE:  I expect a drop to 1.8 next episode, but the C3 numbers will likely keep the show the 2nd or 3rd highest Demo grabber for the night on Network TV.  That is enough for it to be renewed.  That is a success for FOX.  It also fits in their hopes of giving DOLLHOUSE time to grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX said they wouldn&#039;t pull them -- either of them -- until they finished their seasons, and I believe them. If Queen Berman were still running the ship there, I wouldn&#039;t. Aside from being a vile person, she is also a pathological liar. Kevin Reilly, for all his faults, tends to not make promises he can&#039;t keep. (Granted, I&#039;d be more inclined to believe it if it were coming from Ben Silverman and Marc Graboff. They don&#039;t pull shows with 5 viewers, let alone 5 million.)   

And anybody who thinks &quot;Dollhouse&quot; will ever do that &quot;well&quot; again is deluded. This was a series premiere. Of a lousy show. That most people who watched and commented about didn&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX said they wouldn&#8217;t pull them &#8212; either of them &#8212; until they finished their seasons, and I believe them. If Queen Berman were still running the ship there, I wouldn&#8217;t. Aside from being a vile person, she is also a pathological liar. Kevin Reilly, for all his faults, tends to not make promises he can&#8217;t keep. (Granted, I&#8217;d be more inclined to believe it if it were coming from Ben Silverman and Marc Graboff. They don&#8217;t pull shows with 5 viewers, let alone 5 million.)   </p>
<p>And anybody who thinks &#8220;Dollhouse&#8221; will ever do that &#8220;well&#8221; again is deluded. This was a series premiere. Of a lousy show. That most people who watched and commented about didn&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: GRD</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You could’ve put Summer Glau and Eliza Dushku in bikinis sunning themselves on chaise lounges and drinking fruity concoctions out of straws for two hours and doing nothing but product endorsements for geek gadgetry and it might have still won the male 18-34 and 18-49 demos.&quot;

Might?? It probably would have won those demos for the entire week, let alone Friday nights. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You could’ve put Summer Glau and Eliza Dushku in bikinis sunning themselves on chaise lounges and drinking fruity concoctions out of straws for two hours and doing nothing but product endorsements for geek gadgetry and it might have still won the male 18-34 and 18-49 demos.&#8221;</p>
<p>Might?? It probably would have won those demos for the entire week, let alone Friday nights. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy McAwesome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy McAwesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>record breaking? HAHAHAHAHA.  That&#039;s a joke right?


As for being patient.  Fox has been patient with TSCC, it&#039;s time to bail on the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>record breaking? HAHAHAHAHA.  That&#8217;s a joke right?</p>
<p>As for being patient.  Fox has been patient with TSCC, it&#8217;s time to bail on the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$19 mil is record breaking for an opening night? I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$19 mil is record breaking for an opening night? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Pocket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Pocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX needs to be patient with Dollhouse and just see how things play out before they bring the game shows back.

Looks like Jason&#039;s record breaking $19 million opening night affected things big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX needs to be patient with Dollhouse and just see how things play out before they bring the game shows back.</p>
<p>Looks like Jason&#8217;s record breaking $19 million opening night affected things big time.</p>
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		<title>By: jawad ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>jawad ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well duh of cousrse it did good with males 18-49 beacuse what male dosnt want to see two hot chicks on tv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well duh of cousrse it did good with males 18-49 beacuse what male dosnt want to see two hot chicks on tv</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why would anyone expect this to change on Fridays?&quot;

Because Fox is Sucks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why would anyone expect this to change on Fridays?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because Fox is Sucks!</p>
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		<title>By: Thecolours</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thecolours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, does anyone actually think that new episodes of Prison Break are going to help Dollhouse any more so than T:SCC? Both T:SCC and Prison Break have had similuar numbers this year.  Why would anyone expect this to change on Fridays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, does anyone actually think that new episodes of Prison Break are going to help Dollhouse any more so than T:SCC? Both T:SCC and Prison Break have had similuar numbers this year.  Why would anyone expect this to change on Fridays?</p>
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		<title>By: T-Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think FOX will pull T:SCC of unless it completely bottoms out.

Like 1 mil viewers crash.

FOX has said they were going to patient.  Two weeks isn&#039;t patient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think FOX will pull T:SCC of unless it completely bottoms out.</p>
<p>Like 1 mil viewers crash.</p>
<p>FOX has said they were going to patient.  Two weeks isn&#8217;t patient.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dollhouse has so much potential. Dollhouse needs a better lead in, Sarah Conner is dragging it down with it&#039;s stupid low ratings. TSCC should have been cancelled after last season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dollhouse has so much potential. Dollhouse needs a better lead in, Sarah Conner is dragging it down with it&#8217;s stupid low ratings. TSCC should have been cancelled after last season.</p>
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