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	<title>Comments on: Can Hulu keep CBS owned TV.com at bay?</title>
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		<title>By: CBS Interactive: “Well Within Our Rights To Stream Hulu Content” &#124; Webtrendblog.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>CBS Interactive: “Well Within Our Rights To Stream Hulu Content” &#124; Webtrendblog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TV.com recently with a redesign that almost exactly matched the look and feel of Hulu. TV.com is growing at a very fast rate, surpassing Hulu in traffic according to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CBS Interactive: &#8220;Well Within Our Rights To Stream Hulu Content&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>CBS Interactive: &#8220;Well Within Our Rights To Stream Hulu Content&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TV.com recently with a redesign that almost exactly matched the look and feel of Hulu. TV.com is growing at a very fast rate, surpassing Hulu in traffic according to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TomSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riff Rafferty: I used to read Buffy episodes recaps all the time (where I&#039;m from it took years to catch up). I&#039;m remembering now that you used to have Nielsen ratings for some shows. Because of TV Tome I found out what households mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riff Rafferty: I used to read Buffy episodes recaps all the time (where I&#8217;m from it took years to catch up). I&#8217;m remembering now that you used to have Nielsen ratings for some shows. Because of TV Tome I found out what households mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote for TV Tome(stone) for 5 years. The only bad things about it were the bratty children who littered the forums and the douchenozzle owner. Well, and the fact that I didn&#039;t get paid. When CNET bought it and basically threw the whole thing in the trash, I assumed they were in some kind of contest with some other company to see who could create a website so flash-infested, it would make the thing virtually unbrowsable. If that&#039;s the case, I have no doubt in my mind that CNET won. After TV.com crashed my old computer one too many times, I just gave up. What once existed as a site to host episode guides turned into a place to sell Viagra and Ephedrin. 

If they&#039;re trying to compete with Hulu, oh please. Hulu has stuck with its original purpose. If TV.com were any more now like its original purpose, it would be MTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote for TV Tome(stone) for 5 years. The only bad things about it were the bratty children who littered the forums and the douchenozzle owner. Well, and the fact that I didn&#8217;t get paid. When CNET bought it and basically threw the whole thing in the trash, I assumed they were in some kind of contest with some other company to see who could create a website so flash-infested, it would make the thing virtually unbrowsable. If that&#8217;s the case, I have no doubt in my mind that CNET won. After TV.com crashed my old computer one too many times, I just gave up. What once existed as a site to host episode guides turned into a place to sell Viagra and Ephedrin. </p>
<p>If they&#8217;re trying to compete with Hulu, oh please. Hulu has stuck with its original purpose. If TV.com were any more now like its original purpose, it would be MTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Cotton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cotton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it - all these sites competing for my eyeballs - I love Hulu - but either way all I really care about is that I find the ads unobtrusive and now I can cancel netflix and certainly don&#039;t regret not paying that huge cable bill!

Also love that Hulu has a convenient widget player for use at work or just to keep tabs on content from my google homepage: http://gingagadgets.com/hulu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it &#8211; all these sites competing for my eyeballs &#8211; I love Hulu &#8211; but either way all I really care about is that I find the ads unobtrusive and now I can cancel netflix and certainly don&#8217;t regret not paying that huge cable bill!</p>
<p>Also love that Hulu has a convenient widget player for use at work or just to keep tabs on content from my google homepage: <a href="http://gingagadgets.com/hulu" rel="nofollow">http://gingagadgets.com/hulu</a></p>
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		<title>By: TomSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lourdes: Do you work for CBS or you just like crappy sites?
The reason Tvtome was a great site is the same reason this site rocks. It was operated by people who liked TV and wanted other people to like it as much as they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lourdes: Do you work for CBS or you just like crappy sites?<br />
The reason Tvtome was a great site is the same reason this site rocks. It was operated by people who liked TV and wanted other people to like it as much as they do.</p>
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		<title>By: johnthemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnthemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tv.com is a badly set up site, I didn&#039;t even know they had streaming videos to compete with Hulu (actually I think they inbed Hulu vids on there site). People are idiots, Hulu is a billion times better than Tv.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tv.com is a badly set up site, I didn&#8217;t even know they had streaming videos to compete with Hulu (actually I think they inbed Hulu vids on there site). People are idiots, Hulu is a billion times better than Tv.com</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just think if the shows on the bubble, in a situation where neither canceling nor renewing it is a bad decision(which looks like it could be the case), Dollhouse&#039;s internet popularity/and subsequent DVD popularity(if I know Whedon fans) could help. For Chuck and TSCC, they&#039;re not even popular on the internet.

But you&#039;re right, compared to TV revenue, it is insignificant, but it&#039;s got to be a positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think if the shows on the bubble, in a situation where neither canceling nor renewing it is a bad decision(which looks like it could be the case), Dollhouse&#8217;s internet popularity/and subsequent DVD popularity(if I know Whedon fans) could help. For Chuck and TSCC, they&#8217;re not even popular on the internet.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right, compared to TV revenue, it is insignificant, but it&#8217;s got to be a positive.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, no, it&#039;s not safe to make those assumptions. many of those streams are merely clips. there&#039;s no way with those numbers that new episodes of shows are averaging a million views. which isn&#039;t to say no shows are, but that&#039;s over a course of a month and even then really wouldn&#039;t be significant in terms of revenue/

As for Dollhouse, it may be saved, but it will not be saved due to the Internet viewing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, no, it&#8217;s not safe to make those assumptions. many of those streams are merely clips. there&#8217;s no way with those numbers that new episodes of shows are averaging a million views. which isn&#8217;t to say no shows are, but that&#8217;s over a course of a month and even then really wouldn&#8217;t be significant in terms of revenue/</p>
<p>As for Dollhouse, it may be saved, but it will not be saved due to the Internet viewing.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4.5 million unique viewers; 232 million streams. Is it safe to assume that new episodes of top shows on Hulu(like The Office and House) pull in over a million unique viewers? Almost all of them 18-49? That would be significant revenue.

So wheres Dollhouse? and TSCC? and Chuck? This week: dollhouse has the 7th most popular episode with ghost, and chuck doesn&#039;t show up til 89th spot.(the 3D episoe, with the new episode taking up the 90th slot) TSCC? The 29th most popular episode for the week.

Only dollhouse can make a claim(and not that great of one) that it is pulling in a significant number of viewers through legal internet viewing(including iTunes) to even consider pushing it&#039;s renewal chances upwards. TSCC and Chuck fans, you can&#039;t even hope the internet saves you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4.5 million unique viewers; 232 million streams. Is it safe to assume that new episodes of top shows on Hulu(like The Office and House) pull in over a million unique viewers? Almost all of them 18-49? That would be significant revenue.</p>
<p>So wheres Dollhouse? and TSCC? and Chuck? This week: dollhouse has the 7th most popular episode with ghost, and chuck doesn&#8217;t show up til 89th spot.(the 3D episoe, with the new episode taking up the 90th slot) TSCC? The 29th most popular episode for the week.</p>
<p>Only dollhouse can make a claim(and not that great of one) that it is pulling in a significant number of viewers through legal internet viewing(including iTunes) to even consider pushing it&#8217;s renewal chances upwards. TSCC and Chuck fans, you can&#8217;t even hope the internet saves you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lourdes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lourdes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tv.com works fine for me. you can find many information about your favorite shows beside the official site. I check it just for the info, not the videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tv.com works fine for me. you can find many information about your favorite shows beside the official site. I check it just for the info, not the videos.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, TVTome was far superior to TV.com. TV.com has horrible load times and I do anything to avoid going there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, TVTome was far superior to TV.com. TV.com has horrible load times and I do anything to avoid going there.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this that big of a deal?  Hulu doesn&#039;t have all the content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this that big of a deal?  Hulu doesn&#8217;t have all the content.</p>
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		<title>By: Fin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate tv.com but i also hate Hulu because i can&#039;t use it: apart from a few videos. No Hulu.uk! :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate tv.com but i also hate Hulu because i can&#8217;t use it: apart from a few videos. No Hulu.uk! <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TomSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TV.com is a joke. RIP Tvtome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV.com is a joke. RIP Tvtome.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, I don&#039;t think what you wrote earlier  is in conflict with this at all. Hulu.com, iTunes (for TV) and others can still be real businesses while being small compared to existing advertising revenues for television shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I don&#8217;t think what you wrote earlier  is in conflict with this at all. Hulu.com, iTunes (for TV) and others can still be real businesses while being small compared to existing advertising revenues for television shows.</p>
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