Um, no? The Simpsons and Family Guy both perform VERY WELL in the demo. Cops costs pennies compared to TSCC and still manages to pull better numbers, and on Saturday when even less people are watching broadcast TV than Friday.

I notice the vocal majority harping on about it being ‘boring’. I disagree, I think it’s a slow burner that ‘soulfully’ explores its characters. I think the worst thing that could happen to this show would be to have lots of ‘big bangs and gratuitous cleavage’ weekly. But I can see why it has lost the interest of a certain type that watch this. The action pace has slowed down considerably to the point that its main demographic who want to see fireworks, hot girls… and literal, uncomplicated story writing that doesn’t require more than an hours concentration, have been alienated. I guess the writers, in trying to make this show more than a cheap, salacious and superficial concept rip off have lost their main audience.

Some people forget (or don’t realise) that James Cameron’s Terminator wasn’t just special effects and explosions. It was atmospheric, cleverly written, had action; it was about the characters and their development, and the thing that everyone seems to miss, it was a love story. It wasn’t just about the robots and the end of the world, they were merely plot devices. Terminators 1 and 2 were masterpieces in bringing all these elements together, and keeping the pace just about right.

I guess it wouldn’t hurt the SCC to use a few more ‘bangs’ and pick up the story telling pace just a little, to balance it out some more. The heart is there, the writing is there, the action is there, the character development is there, it just needs some more finesse to bring it all together now – and hopefully before it’s too late.

Damn it I love this show, whyyyyy

How is that not relevant? It is lower than a canceled program that was airing in your idea a bad time of the year. That has to be relevant because as you said TSCC isn’t airing in that time of year. Thus it being worse in ratings than SWINGTOWN is even worse.

Did you think your attack on Robert out? It doesn’t look like it.

Realistically, we’ve known since November TSCC had no hope for next year. That’s definitely NOT the same as “officially absolutely knew for sure!”, but the lack of official announcement says nothing about how realistic of a view it is.

I’m pretty sure Nick C understand completely that the only reason FOX kept ‘Til Death was that it was offered to them for almost nothing.

Reason ’til death’ was saved wasn’t because it got offered freely it was because Sony set up some sort of deal with WB – FACT

Preston B, head of Fox programming strategy, said that they won’t be making any decisions regarding T:SCC had its last nine, they’re not about to pull another firefly – FACT

Which brings me to the last thing. The show’s material is one thing but when you see websites, such as this, talking as if the decision has already been made you are turning away potential viewers. You may not realize it, and you’ll probably deny it, but this article and these comments aren’t helping the numbers either especially when you just speculate, speculate, and speculate.

I’ll watch T:SCC till the end and if this really is its last hoorah then so be it. But until an official announcement is made all I see here is pessimists trying to sound like realists. Check your facts next time, that’s what realists do.

“The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.”
– Friedrich Nietzsche

How is it that “Mad Men” on AMC with 1.7 million viewers better than TSCC?

How about USA Networks picking-up TSCC? They have some really good shows and Monk’s last season is this summer?

If it were a soap opera or perhaps a medical drama, that would be understandable. However, such a format doesn’t work for a lot of shows. What works for one show doesn’t work for another. Obviously, TTSCC would be more effective if the majority of episodes were stand-alone episodes. The soap opera approach is obviously not very beneficial for a sci-fi/action series like TTSCC. I suspect that it’s one of the reasons why the program’s audience share is sliding.

A better writing and meaningful plot could have saved the franchise and the series but it just did not happen?

This…
Is…
…TVBYTHENUMBERS!

Since the Fox guy said they were giving low-ratings shows a chance by putting them on Fridays, the ratings would have to be especially bad to be worse than the lowered expectations that Fox had already set.

These are the results.

The essence of the Terminator franchise is the exploration of the possible relationships between man and AI. While TSCC did pretty well with that by introducing Cameron, the show has been mostly a “family drama” about Sarah and John and their relationship with each other and others.

And that just didn’t cut it with hardcore science fiction fans.

They could have had a very sophisticated, push the envelope relationship between John and Cameron that would NOT have been a simple “shipper” concept or the equally “been there, done that” concept of Cameron just being another dumb Terminator reprogrammed to protect John. Cameron’s nature could have been revealed as a fully independent AI just like Skynet, no longer under anyone’s control, with her own motivations and goals.

Face it, Summer Glau was fifty percent of the show, whether the haters like it or not. Lena and Tom were the other fifty percent. There was a reason for casting such a popular actress in that particular part – everybody knew immediately that it meant there would be a relationship between the kid and the machine – then Josh threw it all away for the reason that he wanted to explore Sarah Connor too much.

Cameron was reducing to doing the Connors laundry and comic relief.

A major opportunity was lost here.

As Travolta said at the beginning of “Swordfish”, there was a total lack of realism and they didn’t push the envelope.

It’s done, and from what I have seen of the first episodes of the season it deserves to go.

We could get into a long list of things that need to be done to improve the show. I’m not sure what the correct answer is, but I would say the writers need to sit down and start over from scratch. I wish they would come up with some sort of arc for the show. Maybe have Judgment day at the end of next season and have a season in the post nuclear world. It would be expensive, so I doubt that would happen, but it would be awesome!

You forgot ‘Survivor.’

When they first started talking about ELI STONE sticking around the ratings on that show hadn’t bombed yet. I think the week they started talking about keeping it was the week the ratings took a nose dive from their previous “is that acceptable?” number.

I high hopes of TSCC, while its ok, its not great and suffered from too many terminators and too much time travel. Nobody is going to ride to its rescue. The failure of experiments like Jericho and Friday Night Lights to generate larger fan bases pretty much doom any fan efforts to save their shows. With a SAG strike on the way, its probably going to be a boring fall season filled with games shows and unscripted junk.

Oh well, LOST and Fringe are still doing well (especially in the key demos).