Comments on: NBC Exec: Heroes Definitely Back For Fall http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:21:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chuckles http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-5/#comment-66481 Chuckles Thu, 02 Apr 2009 05:35:54 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-66481 Heroes does NOT deserved to be renewed. That show has jumped the shark so many times, they've run out of sharks. Creatively, Chuck is far stronger than Heroes was ever and (quite possibly) will ever be. SAVE CHUCK. SAVE THE WORLD! Heroes does NOT deserved to be renewed. That show has jumped the shark so many times, they’ve run out of sharks.

Creatively, Chuck is far stronger than Heroes was ever and (quite possibly) will ever be.

SAVE CHUCK. SAVE THE WORLD!

]]> By: doug h http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-5/#comment-58794 doug h Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:56:13 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-58794 Karen, I agree 100%. If Chuck got cancelled I would be vety upset. I keep hoping that NBC will announce Chick for a renewal, hopefully a 22 episode renewal, but I would be satisfied with an 18-20 episode renewal like Heroes got. Karen, I agree 100%. If Chuck got cancelled I would be vety upset. I keep hoping that NBC will announce Chick for a renewal, hopefully a 22 episode renewal, but I would be satisfied with an 18-20 episode renewal like Heroes got.

]]> By: Karen http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-5/#comment-58790 Karen Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:44:58 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-58790 I would be so heartbroken if Chuck got cancelled. It is the best thing on TV ever, and I have watched a lot of TV. And it keeps getting better, the writing has been excellent. And every character is awesome, I love every single one of them, but especially Chuck. Zac plays him perfectly, the right combination of sweetness, comedy and sexiness. You really care about what happens to him. My whole family gathers every Monday to watch Chuck. Hope it last ten years ! I would be so heartbroken if Chuck got cancelled. It is the best thing on TV ever, and I have watched a lot of TV. And it keeps getting better, the writing has been excellent. And every character is awesome, I love every single one of them, but especially Chuck. Zac plays him perfectly, the right combination of sweetness, comedy and sexiness. You really care about what happens to him. My whole family gathers every Monday to watch Chuck. Hope it last ten years !

]]> By: Rick http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-58692 Rick Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:33:17 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-58692 DON'T CANCEL "CHUCK!" It's the most entertaining, enjoyable hour on TV. Give it a better time slot - give it better promotion (like how about Zach and Yvonne hosting SNL - it IS an NBC show after all - rather than having a competing show's star, like Neil Patrick Harris, hosting it. It's like sleeping with the enemy). RENEW CHUCK!! Go to http://petitionspot.com/petitions/renewnbcchuck to add your name to the SAVE CHUCK petition!!! Just is too good to get rid of!! DON’T CANCEL “CHUCK!” It’s the most entertaining, enjoyable hour on TV. Give it a better time slot – give it better promotion (like how about Zach and Yvonne hosting SNL – it IS an NBC show after all – rather than having a competing show’s star, like Neil Patrick Harris, hosting it. It’s like sleeping with the enemy). RENEW CHUCK!! Go to http://petitionspot.com/petitions/renewnbcchuck to add your name to the SAVE CHUCK petition!!! Just is too good to get rid of!!

]]> By: Dave http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-57766 Dave Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:57:26 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-57766 HEROES IS WAY BETTER THEN CHUCK HALF THE REASON CHUCK HAS VIEWERS IS BECAUSE PEOPLE FLIP IT ON TO WAIT FOR HEROES! HEROES IS WAY BETTER THEN CHUCK HALF THE REASON CHUCK HAS VIEWERS IS BECAUSE PEOPLE FLIP IT ON TO WAIT FOR HEROES!

]]> By: mr.marvel http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-56186 mr.marvel Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:36:04 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-56186 [nymets says: March 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm instead of watching heroes people should just read the x-men comics their talentless writers steal all there material from. it takes less time and they are better] AMEN! [nymets says:
March 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

instead of watching heroes people should just read the x-men comics their talentless writers steal all there material from. it takes less time and they are better]

AMEN!

]]> By: CrappyDeli http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-56158 CrappyDeli Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:35:37 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-56158 Season 1 - loved it Season 2 - hated it Season 3 - struggling to give a crap about it Season 4 - I'm done Outside the diehard fans who just love having Sci Fi on a network in primetime, I don't see who can carry this show. All of the non-nerds out there (men and women) sampled this show and probably enjoyed the first season, but Season 2 killed that off. I find the entire Maya story line to be about as interesting as hearing some lady on E.R. moan about Mobalage for a dozen eps. Season 1 – loved it
Season 2 – hated it
Season 3 – struggling to give a crap about it
Season 4 – I’m done

Outside the diehard fans who just love having Sci Fi on a network in primetime, I don’t see who can carry this show. All of the non-nerds out there (men and women) sampled this show and probably enjoyed the first season, but Season 2 killed that off. I find the entire Maya story line to be about as interesting as hearing some lady on E.R. moan about Mobalage for a dozen eps.

]]> By: Alex http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-56156 Alex Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:21:49 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-56156 "You can’t really do that Alex, even season one’s average price was around $40 (if you do the math) regardless of the MSRP. the trend is most definitely not Heroes’ friend though as the DVDs for both years were released at very similar times, so the comparisons are pretty fair. Word of mouth for this year has not been particularly good, so unless there is some OMFG! between now and the end of the season, no reason to expect that the trend doesn’t continue." As I said previously I expect total sales to fall for Season 3 but revenue to be up vs. Season 2 (given the the bigger price tag). My $54 million was more to put the 900,000 sold for Season 2 in to a different context vs. Season 1 sales. Having said that I don't expect the drop to be as big as it was (percentage wise or actual numbers) Season 1 to Season 2. “You can’t really do that Alex, even season one’s average price was around $40 (if you do the math) regardless of the MSRP. the trend is most definitely not Heroes’ friend though as the DVDs for both years were released at very similar times, so the comparisons are pretty fair. Word of mouth for this year has not been particularly good, so unless there is some OMFG! between now and the end of the season, no reason to expect that the trend doesn’t continue.”

As I said previously I expect total sales to fall for Season 3 but revenue to be up vs. Season 2 (given the the bigger price tag). My $54 million was more to put the 900,000 sold for Season 2 in to a different context vs. Season 1 sales. Having said that I don’t expect the drop to be as big as it was (percentage wise or actual numbers) Season 1 to Season 2.

]]> By: TenatiousD http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-56022 TenatiousD Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:32:17 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-56022 Why can't anyone let those of us who love Heroes be happy that our show has been picked up for another year? Can't you bashers just keep your feelings to yourselves about how much you hate the show and let us revel in our victory? I love Chuck too, but how would you like it when it gets renewed if the haters come crashing in making uncalled for comments about your show? Heroes has it's problems, but so does Chuck. And for that matter if it does get cancelled, it would certainly piss you off if people come in there celebrating it's loss! Just let us be happy for one day that Heroes has been renewed! If you don't like the show DON'T WATCH IT! But don't take your misplaced anger on those of us who love the show just because Chuck hasn't been renewed! Why can’t anyone let those of us who love Heroes be happy that our show has been picked up for another year? Can’t you bashers just keep your feelings to yourselves about how much you hate the show and let us revel in our victory?

I love Chuck too, but how would you like it when it gets renewed if the haters come crashing in making uncalled for comments about your show? Heroes has it’s problems, but so does Chuck. And for that matter if it does get cancelled, it would certainly piss you off if people come in there celebrating it’s loss!

Just let us be happy for one day that Heroes has been renewed! If you don’t like the show DON’T WATCH IT! But don’t take your misplaced anger on those of us who love the show just because Chuck hasn’t been renewed!

]]> By: ABCFanaticThinks http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55969 ABCFanaticThinks Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:30:08 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55969 I still have hope for Heroes! but I kinda feel sorry for the show when I watch the new episodes of season 3 its just not good. I still have hope for Heroes! but I kinda feel sorry for the show when I watch the new episodes of season 3 its just not good.

]]> By: Agent StraHOTski http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55929 Agent StraHOTski Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:02:45 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55929 http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/annual/2008.php First weeks numbers for Chuck: Chuck - The Complete First Season: 38,122 units sold -- $990,791 I don't know how it performed in following weeks because it fell off the top 30 charts. However, I did read somewhere that it generated like $5-6 million off the DVD sales while the Blu-ray version also did relatively well. http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/annual/2008.php

First weeks numbers for Chuck:
Chuck – The Complete First Season: 38,122 units sold — $990,791

I don’t know how it performed in following weeks because it fell off the top 30 charts. However, I did read somewhere that it generated like $5-6 million off the DVD sales while the Blu-ray version also did relatively well.

]]> By: sooper http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55925 sooper Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:46:13 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55925 agent, where do you get your numbers? And where does Chuck rank? agent, where do you get your numbers? And where does Chuck rank?

]]> By: Agent StraHOTski http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55919 Agent StraHOTski Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:11:56 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55919 The Office season 4 DVD set was the number one selling TV series of 2008 with 1,057,620 units sold generating $32,359,990. However, Lost - The Complete Fourth Season has sold 977,866 units generating $36,171,263 as of 01/11/2009 (thru 5 weeks). I am assuming that it has already surpassed The Office's sales in units by now. So Lost, I guess, is the number one selling show on DVD. The Office season 4 DVD set was the number one selling TV series of 2008 with 1,057,620 units sold generating $32,359,990.

However, Lost – The Complete Fourth Season has sold 977,866 units generating $36,171,263 as of 01/11/2009 (thru 5 weeks). I am assuming that it has already surpassed The Office’s sales in units by now. So Lost, I guess, is the number one selling show on DVD.

]]> By: Don M http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55916 Don M Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:56:25 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55916 I am glad Heroes is back. Now keep it away from Mondays. I am glad Heroes is back. Now keep it away from Mondays.

]]> By: the128boy http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55904 the128boy Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:06:51 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55904 Is the office the number one show on dvd? Is the office the number one show on dvd?

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55901 Robert Seidman Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:00:20 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55901 You can't really do that Alex, even season one's average price was around $40 (if you do the math) regardless of the MSRP. the trend is most definitely not Heroes' friend though as the DVDs for both years were released at very similar times, so the comparisons are pretty fair. Word of mouth for this year has not been particularly good, so unless there is some OMFG! between now and the end of the season, no reason to expect that the trend doesn't continue. You can’t really do that Alex, even season one’s average price was around $40 (if you do the math) regardless of the MSRP. the trend is most definitely not Heroes’ friend though as the DVDs for both years were released at very similar times, so the comparisons are pretty fair. Word of mouth for this year has not been particularly good, so unless there is some OMFG! between now and the end of the season, no reason to expect that the trend doesn’t continue.

]]> By: Alex http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55895 Alex Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:42:46 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55895 If you assume the 900,000 units would have carried over to the full price DVD that's about $54 million, NBC will probably be pretty happy if they come anywhere near that for season 3. If you assume the 900,000 units would have carried over to the full price DVD that’s about $54 million, NBC will probably be pretty happy if they come anywhere near that for season 3.

]]> By: Agent StraHOTski http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55842 Agent StraHOTski Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:15:29 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55842 Yeah, the s1 and s2 comparison may be a little skewed due to the price difference(s1: $59.99 s2: $39.99). Season One generated $61.8 million by the end of 2007 and sold roughly 1.6 million units. Season Two generated $22-23 million by the end of 2008 and sold roughly 900,000 units. Yeah, the s1 and s2 comparison may be a little skewed due to the price difference(s1: $59.99 s2: $39.99).

Season One generated $61.8 million by the end of 2007 and sold roughly 1.6 million units.

Season Two generated $22-23 million by the end of 2008 and sold roughly 900,000 units.

]]> By: Alex http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55830 Alex Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:57:55 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55830 On the subject of Bryan Fuller his return to the show isn’t really going to make any difference at all to this season/volume and I doubt his name is going to have much effect on ratings. Any creative input he’s had at this point will be minimal to say the least although I‘m interested to see how the episode he‘s written (I believe its 20) turns out. With that said Fuller being hands on in the crafting of season 4 more very well creative some more positive vibes heading into the premiere next year though. On the subject of Bryan Fuller his return to the show isn’t really going to make any difference at all to this season/volume and I doubt his name is going to have much effect on ratings. Any creative input he’s had at this point will be minimal to say the least although I‘m interested to see how the episode he‘s written (I believe its 20) turns out. With that said Fuller being hands on in the crafting of season 4 more very well creative some more positive vibes heading into the premiere next year though.

]]> By: Alex http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55829 Alex Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:53:29 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55829 Until the networks start making significant sums of money off of online viewers (and that day isn’t anywhere close) online figures aren’t going to matter. And illegal online downloads won’t ever matter. "As for its DVD sales, the season 1 generated $70 million in sales while season 2 generated somewhere in the neighborhood of $30 million. Based on this season’s ratings, the season 3 DVD sales will take a huge dip." Season 1 DVD revenue vs. Season 2 DVD revenue is an awkward comparison to make for Heroes given the difference in length of the seasons and as a result the difference in price for the DVD’s. My guess is that the season 2 sales did drop but not to the extent that the $40 million revenue fall suggests. As far as this year goes, revenue will be up but I’d guess sales will fall. Until the networks start making significant sums of money off of online viewers (and that day isn’t anywhere close) online figures aren’t going to matter. And illegal online downloads won’t ever matter.

“As for its DVD sales, the season 1 generated $70 million in sales while season 2 generated somewhere in the neighborhood of $30 million. Based on this season’s ratings, the season 3 DVD sales will take a huge dip.”

Season 1 DVD revenue vs. Season 2 DVD revenue is an awkward comparison to make for Heroes given the difference in length of the seasons and as a result the difference in price for the DVD’s. My guess is that the season 2 sales did drop but not to the extent that the $40 million revenue fall suggests. As far as this year goes, revenue will be up but I’d guess sales will fall.

]]> By: Agent StraHOTski http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55812 Agent StraHOTski Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:25:52 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55812 @Hudson: Is Heroes globally following the current trend it is here in the U.S.? There must be significant dip in viewers/sales just based on the quality alone. BTW, my dislike for Heroes is due to its quality and not due to my love of Chuck. I watched season 1 over the summer and didn't see what all the hoopla was about. It started out intriguing but by the end of the season it became predictable and lame. I was going to check out season 2 on DVD but decided not to based on all the negative reviews from fans/critics. Nothing against the fans of Heroes, it's just my opinion of the show. Not everyone will like the show, just as not everyone will like Chuck. @Hudson: Is Heroes globally following the current trend it is here in the U.S.? There must be significant dip in viewers/sales just based on the quality alone.

BTW, my dislike for Heroes is due to its quality and not due to my love of Chuck. I watched season 1 over the summer and didn’t see what all the hoopla was about. It started out intriguing but by the end of the season it became predictable and lame. I was going to check out season 2 on DVD but decided not to based on all the negative reviews from fans/critics.

Nothing against the fans of Heroes, it’s just my opinion of the show. Not everyone will like the show, just as not everyone will like Chuck.

]]> By: Matt http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55790 Matt Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:05:18 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55790 Ok I just have to say the ratings dont take into account all the people that watch heroes online, me being one of them, and i remember reading that heroes is in the top 3 for most watched online Ok I just have to say the ratings dont take into account all the people that watch heroes online, me being one of them, and i remember reading that heroes is in the top 3 for most watched online

]]> By: Hudson http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-4/#comment-55786 Hudson Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:03:12 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55786 @Agent StraHOTski: If you read the full article, the executive stated that NBC is aware that Heroes does well globally, and don't forget, it's online content does very well (and I think they won an award for it last year). I think you just have a vendetta against Heroes due to your love for Chuck. @Agent StraHOTski: If you read the full article, the executive stated that NBC is aware that Heroes does well globally, and don’t forget, it’s online content does very well (and I think they won an award for it last year).

I think you just have a vendetta against Heroes due to your love for Chuck.

]]> By: Agent StraHOTski http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55773 Agent StraHOTski Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:53:10 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55773 Zee, a 30 sec TV spot during Heroes this season cost $198,379, which is considerably down from last season's rate of $296,000. The ad rate for Heroes will most likely take another huge tumble when/if it returns next season. As for its DVD sales, the season 1 generated $70 million in sales while season 2 generated somewhere in the neighborhood of $30 million. Based on this season's ratings, the season 3 DVD sales will take a huge dip. With its current downward-spiraling trend in ratings and DVD revenue, why would NBC come out and announce a renewal, yet alone a 18-20 episode renewal?!? 2008 TV Ad Rate: http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/10-spotcost-100608.pdf 2007 TV Ad Rate: http://adage.com/images/random/0907/2007_Ad_Age_TV_Price_Survey.pdf Zee, a 30 sec TV spot during Heroes this season cost $198,379, which is considerably down from last season’s rate of $296,000. The ad rate for Heroes will most likely take another huge tumble when/if it returns next season.

As for its DVD sales, the season 1 generated $70 million in sales while season 2 generated somewhere in the neighborhood of $30 million. Based on this season’s ratings, the season 3 DVD sales will take a huge dip.

With its current downward-spiraling trend in ratings and DVD revenue, why would NBC come out and announce a renewal, yet alone a 18-20 episode renewal?!?

2008 TV Ad Rate:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/10-spotcost-100608.pdf

2007 TV Ad Rate:
http://adage.com/images/random/0907/2007_Ad_Age_TV_Price_Survey.pdf

]]> By: Travis http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55761 Travis Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:41:18 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55761 Everyone i know there is alot of heros fans on here and sorry if i took any offense to anybody.But i just wanted to know where Chuck fell into things thats all.Sorry again Everyone i know there is alot of heros fans on here and sorry if i took any offense to anybody.But i just wanted to know where Chuck fell into things thats all.Sorry again

]]> By: Nick C http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55756 Nick C Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:36:28 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55756 This was a horrible NBC decision. They're bringing it back with less episodes? That is admitting defeat. That is admitting you realize it will never get better. The show is a JOKE. It has lost millions and millions of viewers and is expensive. Less episodes and less cast/staff are definite, but NBC should have just cut their losses. This was a horrible NBC decision. They’re bringing it back with less episodes? That is admitting defeat. That is admitting you realize it will never get better.

The show is a JOKE. It has lost millions and millions of viewers and is expensive. Less episodes and less cast/staff are definite, but NBC should have just cut their losses.

]]> By: Jared http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55750 Jared Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:57:29 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55750 I agree Hudson. I totally understand not liking a show, but just going all out in bashing it? seems a little uncalled for. I agree Hudson.
I totally understand not liking a show, but just going all out in bashing it? seems a little uncalled for.

]]> By: Sam http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55749 Sam Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:56:37 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55749 I love Heroes and the current volume (4) is totally awesome! I love Heroes and the current volume (4) is totally awesome!

]]> By: Heather http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55748 Heather Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:46:53 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55748 *TOTALLY agree, oops. :p *TOTALLY agree, oops. :p

]]> By: Heather http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55747 Heather Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:45:25 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55747 Jenna I told agree, Chuck is the only thing that makes Mondays less depressing! Not only that, but it actually has me looking FORWARD to Mondays the way that most people look forward to the weekend. Jenna
I told agree, Chuck is the only thing that makes Mondays less depressing! Not only that, but it actually has me looking FORWARD to Mondays the way that most people look forward to the weekend.

]]> By: Hudson http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55745 Hudson Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:40:49 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55745 The full article wasn't posted. The Executive stated they are planning an end date for Heroes but she said next year is to soon for it to end. Well, I'm happy about this news. And Day One sounds interesting. But man... there's so many haters on this site... The full article wasn’t posted. The Executive stated they are planning an end date for Heroes but she said next year is to soon for it to end.

Well, I’m happy about this news. And Day One sounds interesting.

But man… there’s so many haters on this site…

]]> By: Travis http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55741 Travis Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:01:18 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55741 yea im with everyone here i want to hear whats going to happen to chuck or we can unleash the casey on nbc and see how that turns out. yea im with everyone here i want to hear whats going to happen to chuck or we can unleash the casey on nbc and see how that turns out.

]]> By: Zee http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55740 Zee Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:57:55 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55740 Does anyone know how much NBC gets for a 30 second ad during heroes? I reckon if they get like $4m per ep and the budget is around $2.5m then it is profitable (the DVD sells pretty well too and lets not forget worldwide success) p.s. next season MUST be the last one so enjoy it while it lasts. Does anyone know how much NBC gets for a 30 second ad during heroes?
I reckon if they get like $4m per ep and the budget is around $2.5m then it is profitable (the DVD sells pretty well too and lets not forget worldwide success)

p.s. next season MUST be the last one so enjoy it while it lasts.

]]> By: sooper http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55726 sooper Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:37:02 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55726 But hwere does that leave Chuck! Someone give an educated guess please! But hwere does that leave Chuck! Someone give an educated guess please!

]]> By: Mike G. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55720 Mike G. Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:32:49 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55720 Not surprised at all. The Renew/Cancel index has had Heroes in the green all season. I think next season will be the make or break season for it. If it's gradually losing fans all season, then next season it should start off with fewer fans. But, since NBC is also desperate for programming that pulls numbers, I suspect it will be around for quite some time to come. Not surprised at all. The Renew/Cancel index has had Heroes in the green all season. I think next season will be the make or break season for it. If it’s gradually losing fans all season, then next season it should start off with fewer fans. But, since NBC is also desperate for programming that pulls numbers, I suspect it will be around for quite some time to come.

]]> By: Ali http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55718 Ali Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:30:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55718 Who cares about Heroes, is Chuck coming back? When will we know? Who cares about Heroes, is Chuck coming back? When will we know?

]]> By: Agent StraHOTski http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55715 Agent StraHOTski Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:22:55 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55715 djm, Medium may get more viewers than Chuck, but they did identical in the demos this past week. As for Medium's ratings in recent weeks, it went up against CSI: Miami repeats. Regardless of what happens to Heroes or Medium, there is no way Chuck returns on Mondays at 8pm. djm,

Medium may get more viewers than Chuck, but they did identical in the demos this past week. As for Medium’s ratings in recent weeks, it went up against CSI: Miami repeats.

Regardless of what happens to Heroes or Medium, there is no way Chuck returns on Mondays at 8pm.

]]> By: djm http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55710 djm Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:13:03 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55710 chuck NBC monday's fat kid... medium is dong well, and heroes sounds like it passed snuff. so if somebodies gotta go to make way for leno...... chuck NBC monday’s fat kid… medium is dong well, and heroes sounds like it passed snuff. so if somebodies gotta go to make way for leno……

]]> By: VYuci http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55706 VYuci Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:06:55 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55706 If Heroes is getting a shorter episode order, does that mean NBC is looking to wait until January to air the episodes? If they do, that certainly opens an extra hour during the fall for NBC to debut one of their new shows. Maybe they can pair Chuck with a new show come fall, I don't get why NBC likes to stick Chuck and Heroes together. They don't even have the same audience (the ratings obviously show that). If Heroes is getting a shorter episode order, does that mean NBC is looking to wait until January to air the episodes?

If they do, that certainly opens an extra hour during the fall for NBC to debut one of their new shows.

Maybe they can pair Chuck with a new show come fall, I don’t get why NBC likes to stick Chuck and Heroes together. They don’t even have the same audience (the ratings obviously show that).

]]> By: Josh Emerson http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55705 Josh Emerson Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:06:49 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55705 Whether I watch Heroes next season will depend on what happens to Chuck. If Chuck isn't brought back, I'm mostly done with NBC. Nothing could stop me from watching The Office and 30 Rock, but that's it. Chuck needs to be renewed. Whether I watch Heroes next season will depend on what happens to Chuck. If Chuck isn’t brought back, I’m mostly done with NBC. Nothing could stop me from watching The Office and 30 Rock, but that’s it. Chuck needs to be renewed.

]]> By: Jenna http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55701 Jenna Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:56:43 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55701 I hear you Geri. CHUCK is the only thing that makes Monday (less) depressing! ;) I have a smile on my face and am engaged throughout the entire episode. Of course they can move it to another night if they like, that's fine with me!! I hear you Geri. CHUCK is the only thing that makes Monday (less) depressing! ;) I have a smile on my face and am engaged throughout the entire episode. Of course they can move it to another night if they like, that’s fine with me!!

]]> By: Jenna http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55699 Jenna Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:53:53 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55699 Yeah TomSD, the most they would probably ever do if things really went downhill for Heroes, would be to shorten the order of episodes, or do some more budget cutting. There's pretty much no way they would go back on the renewal now. It's DONE. Yeah TomSD, the most they would probably ever do if things really went downhill for Heroes, would be to shorten the order of episodes, or do some more budget cutting. There’s pretty much no way they would go back on the renewal now. It’s DONE.

]]> By: Geri http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55698 Geri Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:52:44 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55698 My perfect scenario: Both Chuck and Friday Night Lights coming back for another season. I will kill NBC if they cancel both. Don´t take Chuck away from me! It´s the only show on tv that makes me smile these days. My perfect scenario: Both Chuck and Friday Night Lights coming back for another season. I will kill NBC if they cancel both. Don´t take Chuck away from me! It´s the only show on tv that makes me smile these days.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-3/#comment-55697 Bill Gorman Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:51:29 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55697 TomSD, once an executive says something like this, and make no mistake this was not an off the cuff mistake, the chance of it being reversed is effectively nil. TomSD, once an executive says something like this, and make no mistake this was not an off the cuff mistake, the chance of it being reversed is effectively nil.

]]> By: TomSD http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-2/#comment-55694 TomSD Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:45:50 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55694 I had never wished for a show to be canceled before, but there's a first time for everything. PLEASE GOD MAKE NBC CANCEL HEROES. To all of you who think Fuller will have an influence over the remainnig episodes you are wrong. Both Kring and Fuller know that Fuller was brought for next season but mainly he was brought to please the hard-core fans who were 1 or 2 episodes away form leaving the show for good back in November/December. Bill or Robert, in your opinion if heroes demo will be in very close range of Chuck's season average (Heroes lost almost 20% in a month, if it will continue at the same pace next month it will be around Chuck's demo average) will NBC change its mind (if Heroes does reach Chuck numbers they'll hve no where to go but down). I had never wished for a show to be canceled before, but there’s a first time for everything. PLEASE GOD MAKE NBC CANCEL HEROES.
To all of you who think Fuller will have an influence over the remainnig episodes you are wrong. Both Kring and Fuller know that Fuller was brought for next season but mainly he was brought to please the hard-core fans who were 1 or 2 episodes away form leaving the show for good back in November/December.

Bill or Robert, in your opinion if heroes demo will be in very close range of Chuck’s season average (Heroes lost almost 20% in a month, if it will continue at the same pace next month it will be around Chuck’s demo average) will NBC change its mind (if Heroes does reach Chuck numbers they’ll hve no where to go but down).

]]> By: Matthew http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-2/#comment-55692 Matthew Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:41:58 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55692 I think season 4 is clearly going to be the last season if ratings continue as they are. Heroes is lucky its getting a 20 episode order tbh...if NBC was in a better state I don't think heroes would actually be back for season 4. But at least it has a chance to improve... I think season 4 is clearly going to be the last season if ratings continue as they are. Heroes is lucky its getting a 20 episode order tbh…if NBC was in a better state I don’t think heroes would actually be back for season 4. But at least it has a chance to improve…

]]> By: Jenna http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-2/#comment-55688 Jenna Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:17:31 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55688 I hope so Agent!!! :-P I hope so Agent!!! :-P

]]> By: Agent StraHOTski http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-2/#comment-55686 Agent StraHOTski Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:10:58 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55686 It will be interesting to see if NBC will stick to this plan if Heroes were to drop below 7 mil viewers and below a 3.0 demo - fingers crossed that this happens. As for Chuck, I think NBC will not make any decisions until the season wraps up in April. This past weekend at Wonder Con, Fedak & Schwartz mentioned that they will be meeting up with NBC execs in 2 weeks to pitch the plan for season 3. Hopefully, NBC will loved their pitch and Chuck continues to build upon its audience in the coming weeks. It will be interesting to see if NBC will stick to this plan if Heroes were to drop below 7 mil viewers and below a 3.0 demo – fingers crossed that this happens.

As for Chuck, I think NBC will not make any decisions until the season wraps up in April. This past weekend at Wonder Con, Fedak & Schwartz mentioned that they will be meeting up with NBC execs in 2 weeks to pitch the plan for season 3. Hopefully, NBC will loved their pitch and Chuck continues to build upon its audience in the coming weeks.

]]> By: Jenna http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-2/#comment-55671 Jenna Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:50:51 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55671 I am NOT suprised at this announcement at all. I really never doubted it would be back. But I stil have to say...WHO CARES ABOUT HEROES!? What about CHUCK!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?! I am NOT suprised at this announcement at all. I really never doubted it would be back. But I stil have to say…WHO CARES ABOUT HEROES!? What about CHUCK!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

]]> By: cool http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/03/05/nbc-exec-heroes-definitely-back-for-fall/13983/comment-page-2/#comment-55668 cool Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:50:33 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=13983#comment-55668 I don't think will watch Heroes only because Brian Fuller is back. Maybe NBC can do a promo like "From the creator of the canceled Pushing Daisies, Bryan Fuller is back to Heroes" :roll: I don’t think will watch Heroes only because Brian Fuller is back.

Maybe NBC can do a promo like “From the creator of the canceled Pushing Daisies, Bryan Fuller is back to Heroes” :roll:

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