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	<title>Comments on: Wednesday Ratings: Lie To Me Stands Tall, On Its Own</title>
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		<title>By: Asher Santos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asher Santos</dc:creator>
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		<description>The Chopping Block and 1st half of life is not shown on KGW-TV in Portlad, OR a NBC station due to NBA Basketball of Dallas Mavericks and Portland Trail Blazers.</description>
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		<title>By: Nielsen Ratings for “LaFleur” Rerun &#124; Lost Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nielsen Ratings for “LaFleur” Rerun &#124; Lost Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Took a long time for Christine to come up. I went fast but didn&#039;t detect a single Christine partisan willing to go to bat for it. In Wed still going to be a new comedy night for CBS? Doesn&#039;t it take more than two 8pm shows avging less than a 2 in the demo to make a &quot; comedy block&quot; or even the foundation for one? 2 abd a Half and its life-support system had Ray for ten years. The Office etc has to go all the way back to Seinfeld ( and before that, to Cosby and Cheers.)I think an over fifty-skewing comedy block on WQed will help ABC eventually beat CBS in the demos, maybe in just one more season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Took a long time for Christine to come up. I went fast but didn&#8217;t detect a single Christine partisan willing to go to bat for it. In Wed still going to be a new comedy night for CBS? Doesn&#8217;t it take more than two 8pm shows avging less than a 2 in the demo to make a &#8221; comedy block&#8221; or even the foundation for one? 2 abd a Half and its life-support system had Ray for ten years. The Office etc has to go all the way back to Seinfeld ( and before that, to Cosby and Cheers.)I think an over fifty-skewing comedy block on WQed will help ABC eventually beat CBS in the demos, maybe in just one more season.</p>
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		<title>By: Quarta-feira - 11/03/09 &#171; Seriados News TV!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quarta-feira - 11/03/09 &#171; Seriados News TV!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know much of all the numbers, but I will say, I&#039;d rather watch &quot;Lie To Me&quot; more than American Idol. This show is amazing, and so spot on with the greatest liars America has ever known. Mostly politicians, but this show captures so much honesty, no pun intended. 

Tim Roth is amazing, and just captures the very devoid of emotion feel that I&#039;d expect from someone who reads peoples faces. This show is ten times better than American Idol, with a lot less fiction :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much of all the numbers, but I will say, I&#8217;d rather watch &#8220;Lie To Me&#8221; more than American Idol. This show is amazing, and so spot on with the greatest liars America has ever known. Mostly politicians, but this show captures so much honesty, no pun intended. </p>
<p>Tim Roth is amazing, and just captures the very devoid of emotion feel that I&#8217;d expect from someone who reads peoples faces. This show is ten times better than American Idol, with a lot less fiction <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Schmokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schmokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did Heroes and Dollhouse become the main topics in the Wednesday comments section?  Did they have episodes last night that I missed?  I thought they only had episodes on Monday and Friday that I miss.</description>
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		<title>By: Theoacme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theoacme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rather liked Chopping Block, as did my wife - I actually now wish Gordon Ramsay would leave Hell&#039;s Kitchen, and Marco take it over - he&#039;s the Marlon Brando Godfather to Ramsay&#039;s Milli Vanilli version of Slim Shady...

...if it were a summer program, Chopping Block would be considered rather less of a failure than it is now - and it still might work in a summer slot...

...then again, NBC could probably make Idol and 60 Minutes into complete failures, given the way their executives are ruining things over there now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rather liked Chopping Block, as did my wife &#8211; I actually now wish Gordon Ramsay would leave Hell&#8217;s Kitchen, and Marco take it over &#8211; he&#8217;s the Marlon Brando Godfather to Ramsay&#8217;s Milli Vanilli version of Slim Shady&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;if it were a summer program, Chopping Block would be considered rather less of a failure than it is now &#8211; and it still might work in a summer slot&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;then again, NBC could probably make Idol and 60 Minutes into complete failures, given the way their executives are ruining things over there now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam first of the name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam first of the name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fox has been the number 1 in 18-34 demos from 2004-2007, and in the 2007–08 season, Fox became the most popular network in America in general household ratings, dethroning CBS.

So yeah, it&#039;s been a while for Fox. Seems like, it&#039;s gonna continue on that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox has been the number 1 in 18-34 demos from 2004-2007, and in the 2007–08 season, Fox became the most popular network in America in general household ratings, dethroning CBS.</p>
<p>So yeah, it&#8217;s been a while for Fox. Seems like, it&#8217;s gonna continue on that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a bit worried about Old Christine going up against Lie To Me and The Chopping Block (not nearly as much as American Idol, but they seemed like stiff competition...)

I guess I don&#039;t need to worry much anymore. Lie To Me did win the time period, but Old Christine and Gary weren&#039;t that far behind. If I were CBS I&#039;d be pretty happy with taking second place in the Wednesday at 8 slot. 

I guess the feud between Gordon Ramsay and Marco Pierre White just got better, because Hell&#039;s Kitchen is a success and The Chopping Block is... well... (there really is no nice way to say it)... a failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a bit worried about Old Christine going up against Lie To Me and The Chopping Block (not nearly as much as American Idol, but they seemed like stiff competition&#8230;)</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t need to worry much anymore. Lie To Me did win the time period, but Old Christine and Gary weren&#8217;t that far behind. If I were CBS I&#8217;d be pretty happy with taking second place in the Wednesday at 8 slot. </p>
<p>I guess the feud between Gordon Ramsay and Marco Pierre White just got better, because Hell&#8217;s Kitchen is a success and The Chopping Block is&#8230; well&#8230; (there really is no nice way to say it)&#8230; a failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chopping Block... is that the name of a show, or the NBC network in general? 

FOX is really doing wonders this year fixing all their holes, aren&#039;t they? Well, not on Fridays at 9 o&#039;clock. But, you know, everywhere else. 

And, hey, will wonders never cease... &quot;Life on Mars&quot; grew out of its lead-in for the very first time. Proving once and for all, it does in fact have its own audience. Granted, you need a microscope to find it. But it has it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chopping Block&#8230; is that the name of a show, or the NBC network in general? </p>
<p>FOX is really doing wonders this year fixing all their holes, aren&#8217;t they? Well, not on Fridays at 9 o&#8217;clock. But, you know, everywhere else. </p>
<p>And, hey, will wonders never cease&#8230; &#8220;Life on Mars&#8221; grew out of its lead-in for the very first time. Proving once and for all, it does in fact have its own audience. Granted, you need a microscope to find it. But it has it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heroes is basically renewed for next season, so why do people keep bringing it up in every discussion?</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It really is apples and oranges, Alex. Heroes remains one of NBC’s highest rated series in adults, while DH is second up from the bottom at Fox. NBC will cut Heroes budget before it even comes close to canceling it.&quot;

Its apples and oranges because as I&#039;ve said (at least two times already) they&#039;re completely different shows with completely different expectations. One is surprisingly cheap the other massively expensive and one airs Monday nights and the other airs on Friday nights. Trying to compare and contrast Heroes numbers with just about any other show, particularly a new show just doesn&#039;t work. 

Nick thinks NBC should be getting Heroes because its been trending down for two-years, is massively expensive, has alienated too many fans with bad writing and a budget cut is only go to gut a show that has a central concept that needs big effects shots. I don&#039;t completely agree with him (especially not on the budget cut) but I don&#039;t think the fact he&#039;s telling people to be patient with Dollhouse is at odds with what he&#039;s saying about Heroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It really is apples and oranges, Alex. Heroes remains one of NBC’s highest rated series in adults, while DH is second up from the bottom at Fox. NBC will cut Heroes budget before it even comes close to canceling it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Its apples and oranges because as I&#8217;ve said (at least two times already) they&#8217;re completely different shows with completely different expectations. One is surprisingly cheap the other massively expensive and one airs Monday nights and the other airs on Friday nights. Trying to compare and contrast Heroes numbers with just about any other show, particularly a new show just doesn&#8217;t work. </p>
<p>Nick thinks NBC should be getting Heroes because its been trending down for two-years, is massively expensive, has alienated too many fans with bad writing and a budget cut is only go to gut a show that has a central concept that needs big effects shots. I don&#8217;t completely agree with him (especially not on the budget cut) but I don&#8217;t think the fact he&#8217;s telling people to be patient with Dollhouse is at odds with what he&#8217;s saying about Heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In theory Holly that&#039;s not completely true. 

On paper if a show is making enough money from international rights then it can save an on the bubble show because the production can offer it at a lower price to the US nets. Fox I believe picked up &#039;Til Death for a new season recently simply because it was insanely cheap. Of course Life isn&#039;t a show on the bubble and won&#039;t be making that much from international rights.

I will however point out that its very rare indeed that any show is in a strong enougb position internationally to be able to save itself by slashing its price for US networks and off the top of my head I can&#039;t really think of any, which might mean that there aren&#039;t any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In theory Holly that&#8217;s not completely true. </p>
<p>On paper if a show is making enough money from international rights then it can save an on the bubble show because the production can offer it at a lower price to the US nets. Fox I believe picked up &#8216;Til Death for a new season recently simply because it was insanely cheap. Of course Life isn&#8217;t a show on the bubble and won&#8217;t be making that much from international rights.</p>
<p>I will however point out that its very rare indeed that any show is in a strong enougb position internationally to be able to save itself by slashing its price for US networks and off the top of my head I can&#8217;t really think of any, which might mean that there aren&#8217;t any.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobbi, The production companies do make money off of international rights, but it won&#039;t save a failing show, or even a bubble show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobbi, The production companies do make money off of international rights, but it won&#8217;t save a failing show, or even a bubble show.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops... forgot the blurb.

&quot;Life&quot; mixes procedurals and quirky character drama, a blend Spaniards appreciate in &quot;House,&quot; and another freshman, &quot;The Mentalist.&quot;

Now enjoy!</description>
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<p>&#8220;Life&#8221; mixes procedurals and quirky character drama, a blend Spaniards appreciate in &#8220;House,&#8221; and another freshman, &#8220;The Mentalist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m reading this correctly, apparently the people of Spain like Life very much!

I found an article from Variety.  Below is a blurb from the article and a link to the article.  Enjoy!

Can this, or should this, help Life survive in the US?  A girl can dream :)

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118000758.html?categoryId=19&amp;cs=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m reading this correctly, apparently the people of Spain like Life very much!</p>
<p>I found an article from Variety.  Below is a blurb from the article and a link to the article.  Enjoy!</p>
<p>Can this, or should this, help Life survive in the US?  A girl can dream <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118000758.html?categoryId=19&#038;cs=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118000758.html?categoryId=19&#038;cs=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Job Lie to Me. Definitely getting renewed. Lie holds up on its own and easily wins 8pm. Old Christine and Gary did alright for 8pm. Despite both shows being CBS&#039;s lowest rated series, im confident that CBS will keep Wednesdays second comedy block next season. However as I mentioned many times, I believe Gary will be axed and Christine will be left at wednesdays at 8 likely followed by Rules of Engagement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Job Lie to Me. Definitely getting renewed. Lie holds up on its own and easily wins 8pm. Old Christine and Gary did alright for 8pm. Despite both shows being CBS&#8217;s lowest rated series, im confident that CBS will keep Wednesdays second comedy block next season. However as I mentioned many times, I believe Gary will be axed and Christine will be left at wednesdays at 8 likely followed by Rules of Engagement.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really is apples and oranges, Alex. Heroes remains one of NBC&#039;s highest rated series in adults, while DH is second up from the bottom at Fox. NBC will cut Heroes budget before it even comes close to canceling it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is apples and oranges, Alex. Heroes remains one of NBC&#8217;s highest rated series in adults, while DH is second up from the bottom at Fox. NBC will cut Heroes budget before it even comes close to canceling it.</p>
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		<title>By: qwerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>qwerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 18-34 demo, UNI in 3rd [1.7], close to CBS [1.9].

Here&#039;s a winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 18-34 demo, UNI in 3rd [1.7], close to CBS [1.9].</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a winner.</p>
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		<title>By: idizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>idizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lie to Me will just do what House did and lose secondary plots in favor of more character drama. You can already see them positioning all the pawns for huge family and relationships stuff. The cases of the week will become more and more exchangeable. It&#039;s they way every procedural eventually goes. 

If I had a good case of the week plot for everything I never wanted to know about Gibbs, House, Grissom or Horatio, I&#039;d have enough good cases to fill ten seasons of a whole new show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lie to Me will just do what House did and lose secondary plots in favor of more character drama. You can already see them positioning all the pawns for huge family and relationships stuff. The cases of the week will become more and more exchangeable. It&#8217;s they way every procedural eventually goes. </p>
<p>If I had a good case of the week plot for everything I never wanted to know about Gibbs, House, Grissom or Horatio, I&#8217;d have enough good cases to fill ten seasons of a whole new show.</p>
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		<title>By: clutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the talk of whether or not &quot;Fringe&quot; is a hit:  may we reserve judgment until we see how it performs after an 8-week hiatus?  Time slot is one factor, but only one factor ;) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the talk of whether or not &#8220;Fringe&#8221; is a hit:  may we reserve judgment until we see how it performs after an 8-week hiatus?  Time slot is one factor, but only one factor <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed Lie To Me so far, I&#039;m still not convinced that its going to be able to sustain its concept of multiple seasons especially not using two stories in one episode - there&#039;s really only so many &#039;is this person lying...&#039; concepts out there that are interesting. Of course CSI manages to sustain three shows all using the exact same concept so what do I know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed Lie To Me so far, I&#8217;m still not convinced that its going to be able to sustain its concept of multiple seasons especially not using two stories in one episode &#8211; there&#8217;s really only so many &#8216;is this person lying&#8230;&#8217; concepts out there that are interesting. Of course CSI manages to sustain three shows all using the exact same concept so what do I know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not a shock, the shock is that NBC didn&#039;t lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not a shock, the shock is that NBC didn&#8217;t lose.</p>
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		<title>By: clutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>clutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, &quot;Lie To Me&quot; ran one of their best-yet episodes last night.  Hopefully others liked it too, so that LTM will maintain viewer and demo leads in the new time slot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, &#8220;Lie To Me&#8221; ran one of their best-yet episodes last night.  Hopefully others liked it too, so that LTM will maintain viewer and demo leads in the new time slot.</p>
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		<title>By: Shem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m impressed how Tyra&#039;s Top Model was able to retain its viewers, plus adding more.
The real shock is NBC and ABC battling for LAST PLACE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed how Tyra&#8217;s Top Model was able to retain its viewers, plus adding more.<br />
The real shock is NBC and ABC battling for LAST PLACE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to catch up with Lie to Me now that they switched the spot so it&#039;s not on at the same time at Lost. And ABC always sucks on Wednesdays with the exception of the 9 PM hour because a repeat at 8 PM and a poorly rated show at 10 PM...there&#039;s a nice big open spot on 8 PM Wednesdays that could&#039;ve easily been given to Pushing Daisies for an extra 3 weeks to finish its run (and it would&#039;ve done just as well as the Lost repeats are now). Oh well. 

And I don&#039;t quite understand why everyone is suddenly gaining respect for Fox. It&#039;s been a force to be reckoned with in the last several years with American Idol, 24, House, Bones, and now Fringe and Lie to Me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to catch up with Lie to Me now that they switched the spot so it&#8217;s not on at the same time at Lost. And ABC always sucks on Wednesdays with the exception of the 9 PM hour because a repeat at 8 PM and a poorly rated show at 10 PM&#8230;there&#8217;s a nice big open spot on 8 PM Wednesdays that could&#8217;ve easily been given to Pushing Daisies for an extra 3 weeks to finish its run (and it would&#8217;ve done just as well as the Lost repeats are now). Oh well. </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t quite understand why everyone is suddenly gaining respect for Fox. It&#8217;s been a force to be reckoned with in the last several years with American Idol, 24, House, Bones, and now Fringe and Lie to Me.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Doug as I said to Fin, apples and oranges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Doug as I said to Fin, apples and oranges.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fringe is always going to have a lead-in though, I can&#039;t see Fox ever moving it to 8, so does that mean if it airs after Bones next year it still can&#039;t be compared to other shows because it got a Bones lead-in? What has to happen for that concept to drop, stick it after TSCC? The concept of a lead-in is largely over blown in television. Don&#039;t get me wrong I think it helps a lot for opening episodes of new shows, to have a big built in audience already watching the network is obviously a good thing but when you&#039;re 12+ episodes into the run I think the lead-in becomes fairly meaningless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fringe is always going to have a lead-in though, I can&#8217;t see Fox ever moving it to 8, so does that mean if it airs after Bones next year it still can&#8217;t be compared to other shows because it got a Bones lead-in? What has to happen for that concept to drop, stick it after TSCC? The concept of a lead-in is largely over blown in television. Don&#8217;t get me wrong I think it helps a lot for opening episodes of new shows, to have a big built in audience already watching the network is obviously a good thing but when you&#8217;re 12+ episodes into the run I think the lead-in becomes fairly meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Nick C, and Fox should also cancel Dollhouse and just air repeats of House there. They did much better in the timeslot last year, so Fox would make a lot more money. 

I don&#039;t really care about either show, but seeing you constantly shill for DH while trashing Heroes (a series that more than doubles DH&#039;s demos) is a bit ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Nick C, and Fox should also cancel Dollhouse and just air repeats of House there. They did much better in the timeslot last year, so Fox would make a lot more money. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really care about either show, but seeing you constantly shill for DH while trashing Heroes (a series that more than doubles DH&#8217;s demos) is a bit ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, it was good. Not nearly as good as &quot;Top Chef&quot; but it is definetly worth watching. I discovered it on accident while scanning the on screen tv guide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, it was good. Not nearly as good as &#8220;Top Chef&#8221; but it is definetly worth watching. I discovered it on accident while scanning the on screen tv guide.</p>
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		<title>By: the128boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>the128boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, why does everyone think I&#039;m trying to define a hit?  I feel like jerry in seinfeld &quot;all I said was I like the pen!&quot;  I just wanted to make the point that fringe can&#039;t fairly be compared to other shows until it airs outside the shadow of AI or House.  I don&#039;t mind if people disagree, but how that gets misconstrued into &quot;fringe would fail on it&#039;s own!  Lost is a hit!&quot; I have no idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, why does everyone think I&#8217;m trying to define a hit?  I feel like jerry in seinfeld &#8220;all I said was I like the pen!&#8221;  I just wanted to make the point that fringe can&#8217;t fairly be compared to other shows until it airs outside the shadow of AI or House.  I don&#8217;t mind if people disagree, but how that gets misconstrued into &#8220;fringe would fail on it&#8217;s own!  Lost is a hit!&#8221; I have no idea.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david did u like it i diddnt catch it but LOVE top chef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david did u like it i diddnt catch it but LOVE top chef</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>idizzle, &quot;hit&quot; vs. &quot;not hit&quot; seems to be a &quot;my team rules&quot;/&quot;your team sucks&quot; sort of a debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>idizzle, &#8220;hit&#8221; vs. &#8220;not hit&#8221; seems to be a &#8220;my team rules&#8221;/&#8221;your team sucks&#8221; sort of a debate.</p>
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		<title>By: idizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>idizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, in defense of Ron Livingston I have to say that Standoff did good numbers the two weeks it actually aired after House, then it was switched to 8pm and I am fairly sure it never ever aired after Idol.

That said, maybe we should not get so hung up on the word hit? Because I don&#039;t really thing saying Lie to Me held its own (which it did) implies it is some kid of massive hit. 
If one wants to call every show that manages to stay around a hit, yes, then Fringe is a hit. As is Samatha Who in that case. Realistically maybe the word hit implies something more of the dimensions of first season Heroes, Grey&#039;s Anatomy or CSI. In that case Fringe isn&#039;t one and neither is Lie to Me. And that&#039;s fine, most shows aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, in defense of Ron Livingston I have to say that Standoff did good numbers the two weeks it actually aired after House, then it was switched to 8pm and I am fairly sure it never ever aired after Idol.</p>
<p>That said, maybe we should not get so hung up on the word hit? Because I don&#8217;t really thing saying Lie to Me held its own (which it did) implies it is some kid of massive hit.<br />
If one wants to call every show that manages to stay around a hit, yes, then Fringe is a hit. As is Samatha Who in that case. Realistically maybe the word hit implies something more of the dimensions of first season Heroes, Grey&#8217;s Anatomy or CSI. In that case Fringe isn&#8217;t one and neither is Lie to Me. And that&#8217;s fine, most shows aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chopping Block was the first thing I watched on NBC since Seinfeld ended. I watched it because it seemed like it was going to be like &quot;Top Chef&quot; on Bravo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chopping Block was the first thing I watched on NBC since Seinfeld ended. I watched it because it seemed like it was going to be like &#8220;Top Chef&#8221; on Bravo.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fin, this is simple to explain.  LIE TO ME is a new show getting a 3.4 without a huge lead in.  It has room to grow on its own.  It wins its time slot.

HEROES is a show that many thought would never drop below a 4.0 in the demo.  It&#039;s at 3.2 and all signs lead to it dropping more.  HEROES is on the way down.  It was once a hit.  It finished what 4th in its time slot?  HEROES also costs much more money.  It is LOSING money at 3.2.  LIE TO ME is raking in money at 3.4.

So there is most definitely a difference between the two.  HEROES is a hit for NBC but it&#039;s a seriously tainted one.  That is why people like myself think NBC should just cancel it and be done with it.  Why let it get worse and bring your network down worse than it already is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fin, this is simple to explain.  LIE TO ME is a new show getting a 3.4 without a huge lead in.  It has room to grow on its own.  It wins its time slot.</p>
<p>HEROES is a show that many thought would never drop below a 4.0 in the demo.  It&#8217;s at 3.2 and all signs lead to it dropping more.  HEROES is on the way down.  It was once a hit.  It finished what 4th in its time slot?  HEROES also costs much more money.  It is LOSING money at 3.2.  LIE TO ME is raking in money at 3.4.</p>
<p>So there is most definitely a difference between the two.  HEROES is a hit for NBC but it&#8217;s a seriously tainted one.  That is why people like myself think NBC should just cancel it and be done with it.  Why let it get worse and bring your network down worse than it already is?</p>
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		<title>By: ljo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ljo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I watch TV differently than most people. I&#039;ve never cared what comes on before (or after) programs I like. The only thing that determines whether or not I watch a show is whether or not I like THAT show. These days we don&#039;t even have to get our butts out of the recliner to change the channel. And even tho I&#039;ve out grown the 18-49 demo, I&#039;ve never pulled a muscle pushing a few buttons on my remote control. In addition, my faculties are still intact enough (so far any way) that I&#039;m able to find the shows I like in the program guide (either printed or on screen) no matter how many times a network might move it in the schedule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I watch TV differently than most people. I&#8217;ve never cared what comes on before (or after) programs I like. The only thing that determines whether or not I watch a show is whether or not I like THAT show. These days we don&#8217;t even have to get our butts out of the recliner to change the channel. And even tho I&#8217;ve out grown the 18-49 demo, I&#8217;ve never pulled a muscle pushing a few buttons on my remote control. In addition, my faculties are still intact enough (so far any way) that I&#8217;m able to find the shows I like in the program guide (either printed or on screen) no matter how many times a network might move it in the schedule.</p>
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		<title>By: John T. Folden</title>
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		<dc:creator>John T. Folden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, TSCC was an artificial hit last season. It had a decent lead-in and was airing opposite repeats due to the strike. I think it would have tanked last year if it&#039;d had any sort of competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, TSCC was an artificial hit last season. It had a decent lead-in and was airing opposite repeats due to the strike. I think it would have tanked last year if it&#8217;d had any sort of competition.</p>
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		<title>By: john t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>john t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i, for one, was relieved that LOST was a rerun last night. i had to work late and i thought i was missing a new episode. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i, for one, was relieved that LOST was a rerun last night. i had to work late and i thought i was missing a new episode. :p</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scrubs will get ok numbers. it was just crushed by ai on tuesdays but on wednesdays the 2 wont clash. i think scrubs will score 5m+  and pretty good demos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scrubs will get ok numbers. it was just crushed by ai on tuesdays but on wednesdays the 2 wont clash. i think scrubs will score 5m+  and pretty good demos</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m worried for Better Off Ted next week, having Scrubs as their lead-in. It&#039;s not like Scrubs produce good numbers when new episodes show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m worried for Better Off Ted next week, having Scrubs as their lead-in. It&#8217;s not like Scrubs produce good numbers when new episodes show.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be fair christine and garry are performing pretty well. both show had less than a million less viewers than how i met your mother did on monday and that had a 9.5m lead in</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be fair christine and garry are performing pretty well. both show had less than a million less viewers than how i met your mother did on monday and that had a 9.5m lead in</p>
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		<title>By: the128boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>the128boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>julia, i am NOT defending lost, and i am NOT saying that fringe would definately fail.  Read what I&#039;m writing.  I&#039;m saying that they are not COMPARABLE.  And they won&#039;t be comparable until fringe airs on it&#039;s own.  That&#039;s ALL i&#039;m saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>julia, i am NOT defending lost, and i am NOT saying that fringe would definately fail.  Read what I&#8217;m writing.  I&#8217;m saying that they are not COMPARABLE.  And they won&#8217;t be comparable until fringe airs on it&#8217;s own.  That&#8217;s ALL i&#8217;m saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the whole point of starting Lost in January was to avoid reruns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the whole point of starting Lost in January was to avoid reruns.</p>
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		<title>By: texastvman</title>
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		<dc:creator>texastvman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fringe is a hit. Well, me and FOX would be shocked if it wasnt.

Having a lead in with House, THEN American Idol? Fox might be geniuses - thats all I know. Fringe has gotton star treatment. It would be rediculous if Fringe couldnt stand alone after all this exposre with a 5.0 - 5.8. It will be able to -it has that fanbase. I&#039;m not an avid fan, but being a minor T.V. expert, I would be shocked if it didnt have a loyal fanbase after all that exposure. To succeed on FOX, being a scripted show - I myself have  noticed a trend. Yes, its the Network to beat, but you dont need huge numbers. To succeed, a scripted show needs at least a 5.2 average I would say. I dont think they would cancel a stand alone 8:00 lead in show with a 5.1 or so. Any less than that? Adios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fringe is a hit. Well, me and FOX would be shocked if it wasnt.</p>
<p>Having a lead in with House, THEN American Idol? Fox might be geniuses &#8211; thats all I know. Fringe has gotton star treatment. It would be rediculous if Fringe couldnt stand alone after all this exposre with a 5.0 &#8211; 5.8. It will be able to -it has that fanbase. I&#8217;m not an avid fan, but being a minor T.V. expert, I would be shocked if it didnt have a loyal fanbase after all that exposure. To succeed on FOX, being a scripted show &#8211; I myself have  noticed a trend. Yes, its the Network to beat, but you dont need huge numbers. To succeed, a scripted show needs at least a 5.2 average I would say. I dont think they would cancel a stand alone 8:00 lead in show with a 5.1 or so. Any less than that? Adios.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When ABC chose to air two episodes of &quot;Lost&quot; on its premiere night in January, it necessitated this repeat last night.   &quot;Lost&quot; is indeed scheduled to air a clip recap show in April.   That will allow the show to air a 2 hour finale, as is their tradition, in May.   I am frankly glad to have the week off from the intensity of &quot;Lost&quot; in order to regroup for the next cycle of episodes.  So much happens every week that it was sort of nice to have a week off.   We were promised 17 hours of Lost this year, and that is what we are getting.  8 down, 9 more hours to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When ABC chose to air two episodes of &#8220;Lost&#8221; on its premiere night in January, it necessitated this repeat last night.   &#8220;Lost&#8221; is indeed scheduled to air a clip recap show in April.   That will allow the show to air a 2 hour finale, as is their tradition, in May.   I am frankly glad to have the week off from the intensity of &#8220;Lost&#8221; in order to regroup for the next cycle of episodes.  So much happens every week that it was sort of nice to have a week off.   We were promised 17 hours of Lost this year, and that is what we are getting.  8 down, 9 more hours to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unan1ous, Standoff, Til Death, shall I go on? Fringe is a hit. I don&#039;t know that it has ever actually beaten LOST, anyway, at least not in the demo where it counts, so I&#039;m not sure why you would find the need to defend LOST by trying to accuse Fringe of failing hypothetically. Like I said, stick to the facts, not hypotheticals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unan1ous, Standoff, Til Death, shall I go on? Fringe is a hit. I don&#8217;t know that it has ever actually beaten LOST, anyway, at least not in the demo where it counts, so I&#8217;m not sure why you would find the need to defend LOST by trying to accuse Fringe of failing hypothetically. Like I said, stick to the facts, not hypotheticals.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So glad to see Chopping Block fail.   Looked like garbage straight off the Bravo channel.   Just say &quot;no&quot; to reality crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So glad to see Chopping Block fail.   Looked like garbage straight off the Bravo channel.   Just say &#8220;no&#8221; to reality crap.</p>
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		<title>By: the128boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>the128boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia, all i&#039;m saying is that getting good ratings after a behemoth doesn&#039;t guarantee that you will get good ratings when you air somewhere else.  Therefore, if show A gets marginally higher ratings than show B, but has the advantage of airing after a behemoth, it shouldn&#039;t brag about beating show B.  Did it in fact beat show B?  YES.  Are they really comparable?  NO.

Or at least that&#039;s my opinion.  I think i&#039;m ready to agree to disagree on this one. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia, all i&#8217;m saying is that getting good ratings after a behemoth doesn&#8217;t guarantee that you will get good ratings when you air somewhere else.  Therefore, if show A gets marginally higher ratings than show B, but has the advantage of airing after a behemoth, it shouldn&#8217;t brag about beating show B.  Did it in fact beat show B?  YES.  Are they really comparable?  NO.</p>
<p>Or at least that&#8217;s my opinion.  I think i&#8217;m ready to agree to disagree on this one. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ljo, check your sarcasm detector, it may need new batteries. ;)</description>
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