Can you consider adding Live+7 updates as a regular occurence?

One of our objectives in running this site is to educate people on the numbers of television, what they mean and how they work. Sycore’s statements were simply wrong, and so as not to spread that confusion among our readers, they needed to be corrected. As for rude and condescending, I think the tone of the exchange was set by Sycore prior to any comments you may have read. I do not suffer know it all’s who are wrong gladly.

You’re very rude and condescending. I think YOU need expand your group of friends, if you have any. And guess what? There’s always someone out there with more knowledge than you about something in particular. Hopefully, they won’t talk to you the way you talk to people here while hiding behind your computer monitor.

NOW that I got that off my chest (lol)… I’m a fan of the Terminator films and I liked the first season of TSCC but this season has been brutal. There were some good episodes here and there, like last week’s, but if the show is cancelled, the writers are to blame.

Keep trying, someday you might make a real point.

Sure, I use hard data to support my facts, not skewed sample statistics like Nielsen. Add DVD recorders and hard drive dvr to the mix, you have most of America capable of time-shifting and skipping commercials.
http://www.mediainfocenter.org/television/size/cable_vcr.asp

Face it, Broadcast TV has changed and so has advertising. There is much better data at what America is really watching and much better ways for advertisers to spend there money than using Nielsen as a guide.

Of course, it’s much easier for you to make up numbers to back up your arguments. If that makes you happy in your own little echo chamber, go for it.

As for me, I had a DVR before you were born.

Last I checked, VCR/DVD recordable penetration was over 90%. Most people know how to use them to time-shift and fast froward through the commercials, but yours is probably still blinking “12:00″

An over-reliance on events in the future controlling events in the past is one of the weaknesses of the TSCC concept. Josh abused time travel in this show – and he’s admitted as such – even though he says he hates time travel stories, he’s admitted he’s the one who sticks that stuff in.

And that’s always a mistake. Time travel in SF should only be used to set up the situation in the present, and the rest of the story takes place in the present. Which is what T-1, T-2 and T-3 did. Otherwise you end up in the “rabbit hole”, as the TSCC writers call it – and they repeatedly did so in season 2.

Jesse’s back story is irrelevant. Having present John fighting a faction that wants him out in present time while Skynet continues to grow and develop is just a diversion from the main Terminator concept. It’s going to be confusing for the viewers and does absolutely nothing but slow the pace of main story development, which, again, is stopping Skynet from existing in the first place.

I moaned about this all season. The Connors had a firm mission to stop Skynet in season one. In season 2, they utterly abandoned that mission to do a lot of irrelevant side missions about “saving Skynet targets”. The internal logic of the concept is that if you stop Skynet from ever existing, you stop Judgment Day, you stop the war, you stop Terminators coming back to kill John or anybody else. That is Job ONE! Yet the Connors completely abandoned that in season 2.

And that means the characters end up looking like idiots, instead of “heroes”. Who wants to watch idiots in their favorite sci-fi action show? This is why the show bled viewers.

And now in the next to the last episode of the series, they’re STILL doing that! The description for the episode says when John tries to save another target of Skynet, he closes in on Weaver. He could have done that fifteen episodes ago!

Do these people never learn? Do the writers?

As I’ve said all season, if the Connors are the “saviors of mankind”, it’s time to send in the first string!

Now us fans are probably going to get a Season 2 DVD with slow moving final episodes and major cliffhanger with more than a few story arcs that need tying up. Very upsetting.

The whole “submarine” back story is a waste of time with only four episodes left to even think of saving the show’s numbers.

But the writers think submarine movies are “cool” – which is one reason the show tanked.

Maybe you’re right about that point. It has 99% of probability of dying, but it’s not dead… yet.

Still, it’s better to admit it’s dead and then have a good surprise, than hoping it’s alive and then it’s dead.

And only a miracle will save it. A big one.

You may say that it is not succesfull in nielsen ratings and its future is not bright but you can not ask anyone to admit that it is dead, until it is officially dead, where that decision will be taken by Fox and WB but not by you…

Anyway there is one thing that you are right: the remaining four episodes seems to be very good. I suggest you to not miss those episodes: Friday 8 pm on Fox.

Why don’t you just admit TSCC is dead and enjoy the rest of the episodes hoping for an awesome final?

No matter what you say, think or do, it is dead. I am sorry, but hope in an hopeless case is not a good think. You’re just gonna be let down in the end. Accept, enjoy the rest and move on.

FOX will always have a show that is less successful than its others, so why not keep that least successful show a good one?