Comments on: Oddsmakers: What Are The Chances For NBC Show Renewals? http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:10:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: William Anderson http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-84773 William Anderson Sat, 09 May 2009 17:50:23 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-84773 I am counting My Name is Earl definitely out now as Twentieth Television has cleared My Name is Earl in nearly 50% of the U.S., said Bob Cook, the company’s president and chief operating officer. Twentieth has sold the off-net sitcom to the Fox, Tribune, CBS, Hearst-Argyle and Sinclair station groups for a fall 2009 debut. Given this, I severely doubt it will make NBC for another season. I am counting My Name is Earl definitely out now as Twentieth Television has cleared My Name is Earl in nearly 50% of the U.S., said Bob Cook, the company’s president and chief operating officer. Twentieth has sold the off-net sitcom to the Fox, Tribune, CBS, Hearst-Argyle and Sinclair station groups for a fall 2009 debut.

Given this, I severely doubt it will make NBC for another season.

]]> By: Joe http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-83223 Joe Thu, 07 May 2009 04:31:35 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-83223 I must have the opposite taste of the masses. I really like Kings, very inventive, it has a real shakespeare feel to me. I guess I should just learn to love crime shows, reality t.v. or something. Looks like more of the same is all people are willing to accept. Kings, good luck, I enjoyed your attempt at doing something non-reality based. I must have the opposite taste of the masses. I really like Kings, very inventive, it has a real shakespeare feel to me. I guess I should just learn to love crime shows, reality t.v. or something. Looks like more of the same is all people are willing to accept.

Kings, good luck, I enjoyed your attempt at doing something non-reality based.

]]> By: thedemonhog http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-82737 thedemonhog Wed, 06 May 2009 04:22:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-82737 Amen to Jessica's post. Amen to Jessica’s post.

]]> By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-82697 Dan Wed, 06 May 2009 02:51:54 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-82697 Well my guesses were basically all correct. NBC has cancelled Life, Knight Rider, and Kath & Kim, while renewing Parks & Recreation & Southland. Medium, Chuck, Law & Order and Earl have yet to be renewed but they will be soon................. Well my guesses were basically all correct. NBC has cancelled Life, Knight Rider, and Kath & Kim, while renewing Parks & Recreation & Southland. Medium, Chuck, Law & Order and Earl have yet to be renewed but they will be soon……………..

]]> By: Taylor http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-82138 Taylor Tue, 05 May 2009 03:21:01 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-82138 Here's a big VOC for ya. NBC gobble...gobble...gobble. Forget the peacock, NBC is now the TURKEY Network! Here’s a big VOC for ya.

NBC gobble…gobble…gobble. Forget the peacock, NBC is now the TURKEY Network!

]]> By: Doug http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-81947 Doug Mon, 04 May 2009 16:37:59 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-81947 Judas H. Priest, if they bring back Knight Rider while cancelling Chuck, I'll give up watching NBC. Knight Rider has made a mockery of Mustang owners. The car, when it transforms, looks like something that Hot Wheels and Fast & The Furious got together on and did a poor job of. I think Chuck is a great show, and I want it back for sure, but NBC really needs to rethink what they're keeping and what they're getting rid of. The Knight Rider pilot was abysmal, and they brought it back. Chuck has a cult following, and should be brought back, but it's not been decided? Come on. Judas H. Priest, if they bring back Knight Rider while cancelling Chuck, I’ll give up watching NBC.

Knight Rider has made a mockery of Mustang owners. The car, when it transforms, looks like something that Hot Wheels and Fast & The Furious got together on and did a poor job of.

I think Chuck is a great show, and I want it back for sure, but NBC really needs to rethink what they’re keeping and what they’re getting rid of. The Knight Rider pilot was abysmal, and they brought it back. Chuck has a cult following, and should be brought back, but it’s not been decided? Come on.

]]> By: Jessica http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-81679 Jessica Mon, 04 May 2009 03:18:55 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-81679 Its interesting, Medium gets better ratings than Chuck, but for some reason all you posters seem to think that just because you like and watch Chuck that its a better show and should be renewed. You also make comments that that Medium is a boring show and because nobody posts about it people must not watch it, but thats just silly since it consistently gets good ratings. Everyone is always talking about how the networks only care about ratings, so looking just at the ratings, dont you think they would renew the show with better ratings? Its interesting, Medium gets better ratings than Chuck, but for some reason all you posters seem to think that just because you like and watch Chuck that its a better show and should be renewed. You also make comments that that Medium is a boring show and because nobody posts about it people must not watch it, but thats just silly since it consistently gets good ratings. Everyone is always talking about how the networks only care about ratings, so looking just at the ratings, dont you think they would renew the show with better ratings?

]]> By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-81600 Dan Mon, 04 May 2009 01:20:55 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-81600 The upfronts are tomorrow and its safe to say that all of the green shows will return, and all of the orange shows will not. The upfronts are tomorrow and its safe to say that all of the green shows will return, and all of the orange shows will not.

]]> By: Zach http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-81420 Zach Sun, 03 May 2009 16:31:34 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-81420 Btw, for all of you who think that Law and Order could possibly leave NBC and move to USA, it can't. TNT has a licensing agreement for all of the reruns of the original Law and Order and it would break the contract to put them on USA. Btw, for all of you who think that Law and Order could possibly leave NBC and move to USA, it can’t. TNT has a licensing agreement for all of the reruns of the original Law and Order and it would break the contract to put them on USA.

]]> By: michael http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-81351 michael Sun, 03 May 2009 05:21:07 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-81351 NBC is a JOKE! At least CBS is letting Harper's Island run its course. But unlike Harper's Island, Kings has quality and could survive if it was on the right night. NBC screwed Kings from the beginning. It is one thing to hype a show and put it in a good time slot, but to hype a show and say, "F*** it, good luck," shows how out of touch NBC is. It is unbelievable that USA Network and Bravo are affiliated with the same network. Harper's Island is a mini-series, and it will bomb because it shouldn't be on once a week. It should be on several times a week over a month long period. Kings is awesome, and it has so much potential. And I liked Southland at first. But it stinks now. Live by the sword (Southland), you will die by it too! BTW, Parks and Rec. SUCKS! NBC is a JOKE! At least CBS is letting Harper’s Island run its course. But unlike Harper’s Island, Kings has quality and could survive if it was on the right night. NBC screwed Kings from the beginning. It is one thing to hype a show and put it in a good time slot, but to hype a show and say, “F*** it, good luck,” shows how out of touch NBC is. It is unbelievable that USA Network and Bravo are affiliated with the same network. Harper’s Island is a mini-series, and it will bomb because it shouldn’t be on once a week. It should be on several times a week over a month long period.

Kings is awesome, and it has so much potential. And I liked Southland at first. But it stinks now. Live by the sword (Southland), you will die by it too! BTW, Parks and Rec. SUCKS!

]]> By: Tia http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80976 Tia Sat, 02 May 2009 14:38:03 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80976 Well, Southland was just renewed for 13 episodes. Well, Southland was just renewed for 13 episodes.

]]> By: Riff Rafferty http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80746 Riff Rafferty Fri, 01 May 2009 21:55:22 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80746 In light of some recent developments, my forecast for renewal for "Parks and Wreck" just jumped to 100% (where is the barf emoticon...). Meanwhile, "Southland" slips to 60%. In light of some recent developments, my forecast for renewal for “Parks and Wreck” just jumped to 100% (where is the barf emoticon…).

Meanwhile, “Southland” slips to 60%.

]]> By: Wendy http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80706 Wendy Fri, 01 May 2009 20:20:47 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80706 I'm just curious...are the dropping demos and ratings for last night's Southland taken into account in the current posting of the Renew/Cancel index? Because if I read the ratings thread correctly, Southland's first night against marginal competition yesterday landed them with lower demo's than Chuck and a couple others. Also...there's a lot of talk about the magic synidication point of 100 episodes and I wonder if anyone at NBC is looking at the long-term viability of the network because they're never going to get any of their shows to 100 episodes with Jay Leno taking up a 1/3 of the prime-time real estate next year. I understand it's cheaper to produce the Jay Leno show in the short-term, but how can the syndication factor have so much value in terms of the renewal of shows if NBC is willing to flush that concept by making it nearly impossible for their shows to reach that milestone in the future?? Am I missing something or are they? I’m just curious…are the dropping demos and ratings for last night’s Southland taken into account in the current posting of the Renew/Cancel index? Because if I read the ratings thread correctly, Southland’s first night against marginal competition yesterday landed them with lower demo’s than Chuck and a couple others.

Also…there’s a lot of talk about the magic synidication point of 100 episodes and I wonder if anyone at NBC is looking at the long-term viability of the network because they’re never going to get any of their shows to 100 episodes with Jay Leno taking up a 1/3 of the prime-time real estate next year. I understand it’s cheaper to produce the Jay Leno show in the short-term, but how can the syndication factor have so much value in terms of the renewal of shows if NBC is willing to flush that concept by making it nearly impossible for their shows to reach that milestone in the future?? Am I missing something or are they?

]]> By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80688 Dan Fri, 01 May 2009 19:48:15 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80688 As per NBC's report, drama wise its down to Medium and Chuck. I think NBC is going to try their hardest 2 keep both but i'm sure both will come back midseason. It would seem more likely that they would axe Medium but its so close to 100 that a syndication deal would be good. As per NBC’s report, drama wise its down to Medium and Chuck. I think NBC is going to try their hardest 2 keep both but i’m sure both will come back midseason. It would seem more likely that they would axe Medium but its so close to 100 that a syndication deal would be good.

]]> By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80687 Dan Fri, 01 May 2009 19:44:26 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80687 I think in some way, all green shows will be back. Chuck will return in some way on NBC, they will also find a way to renew Medium, even just for 15, and I believe Earl will return too. We will know in 3 days but i'm very confident in my decision. I think in some way, all green shows will be back. Chuck will return in some way on NBC, they will also find a way to renew Medium, even just for 15, and I believe Earl will return too. We will know in 3 days but i’m very confident in my decision.

]]> By: Roger http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80656 Roger Fri, 01 May 2009 19:06:15 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80656 I hope KITT rides again. :D They need a chance... :C I hope KITT rides again. :D They need a chance… :C

]]> By: Chris http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80622 Chris Fri, 01 May 2009 18:05:42 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80622 PARKS AND RECREATION 26 SOUTHLAND 001 LAW AND ORDER 28 CHUCK 29 MEDIUM 28 MY NAME IS EARL 02 KATH & KIM 22 KINGS 100 LIFE 100 KNIGHT RIDER 100 (Read Upside Down) PARKS AND RECREATION 26
SOUTHLAND 001
LAW AND ORDER 28
CHUCK 29
MEDIUM 28
MY NAME IS EARL 02
KATH & KIM 22
KINGS 100
LIFE 100
KNIGHT RIDER 100

(Read Upside Down)

]]> By: Mapleleaf http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80580 Mapleleaf Fri, 01 May 2009 17:18:14 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80580 Life: I am not attached to this show. I am not attached to this show. Life: I am not attached to this show. I am not attached to this show.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80518 Bill Gorman Fri, 01 May 2009 16:33:46 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80518 FrankJ, not sure. If there was much drama in the CW announcements I might be inclined to do it ahead of time, but since there isn't, probably not. FrankJ, not sure. If there was much drama in the CW announcements I might be inclined to do it ahead of time, but since there isn’t, probably not.

]]> By: FrankJ http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80506 FrankJ Fri, 01 May 2009 15:46:01 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80506 Thanks, Bill. By the way, were you still going to do that 18-34 demo comparison for bubble shows? Or was the going to be a postmortem? Thanks, Bill. By the way, were you still going to do that 18-34 demo comparison for bubble shows? Or was the going to be a postmortem?

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-11/#comment-80366 Bill Gorman Fri, 01 May 2009 04:37:07 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80366 FrankJ, between now and NBC's official announcements, I doubt everything I read and hear about anything having to do with their schedule. Way too many agendas at play. FrankJ, between now and NBC’s official announcements, I doubt everything I read and hear about anything having to do with their schedule. Way too many agendas at play.

]]> By: FrankJ http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80363 FrankJ Fri, 01 May 2009 04:29:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80363 Figured I might as well post this article here too, in case people need the link for discussion. Question for anyone who knows, is Variety getting their info directly from people in NBC who know for certain? http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003070.html?categoryid=14&cs=1 "As for NBC's on-the-fence renewals, signs are pointing to a third-season pickup for "Chuck"..." Figured I might as well post this article here too, in case people need the link for discussion. Question for anyone who knows, is Variety getting their info directly from people in NBC who know for certain?

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003070.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

“As for NBC’s on-the-fence renewals, signs are pointing to a third-season pickup for “Chuck”…”

]]> By: Nick C http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80212 Nick C Fri, 01 May 2009 01:10:54 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80212 The thing here is we're talking about a tight schedule for next season. Maybe NBC renews MEDIUM for 7 episodes and CHUCK for 13. It's possible. The thing is I'd expect to hear something before Monday, but I've heard some conflicting things and nothing from a producer or NBC exec since the news that things were looking good for CHUCK. The thing here is we’re talking about a tight schedule for next season. Maybe NBC renews MEDIUM for 7 episodes and CHUCK for 13. It’s possible.

The thing is I’d expect to hear something before Monday, but I’ve heard some conflicting things and nothing from a producer or NBC exec since the news that things were looking good for CHUCK.

]]> By: Dylan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80199 Dylan Fri, 01 May 2009 01:00:22 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80199 Haha, brilliant, wasn't it Marge? Haha, brilliant, wasn’t it Marge?

]]> By: LargeMarge http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80197 LargeMarge Fri, 01 May 2009 00:58:16 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80197 Well now! Just watched the finale of Chuck. Nevermund. ;D Go Chuck! Well now! Just watched the finale of Chuck. Nevermund. ;D Go Chuck!

]]> By: Chris http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80190 Chris Fri, 01 May 2009 00:38:36 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80190 Robert, I understand that it all comes down to money. Just sucks to see a good show get canceled for another one that won't last past next season. I really don't think that any other show NBC has is going to come close to the ratings that Chuck has on Monday's at 8. I know they aren't great but they aren't the worst either. You move Heroes there and it will tank really bad. Guess this time I will stick by my guns and not watch a show until it is in its 3rd season to make sure it is sticking around :) Robert,

I understand that it all comes down to money. Just sucks to see a good show get canceled for another one that won’t last past next season. I really don’t think that any other show NBC has is going to come close to the ratings that Chuck has on Monday’s at 8. I know they aren’t great but they aren’t the worst either. You move Heroes there and it will tank really bad. Guess this time I will stick by my guns and not watch a show until it is in its 3rd season to make sure it is sticking around :)

]]> By: Chris http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80188 Chris Fri, 01 May 2009 00:34:14 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80188 Well that sucks. With Heroes as bad as it is and Chuck maybe not coming back, looks like there is nothing on NBC for me anymore. Funny cause the only reason Heores gets air time on my TV is because it is on after Chuck. Not that NBC really cares about 1 viewer LOL Well that sucks. With Heroes as bad as it is and Chuck maybe not coming back, looks like there is nothing on NBC for me anymore. Funny cause the only reason Heores gets air time on my TV is because it is on after Chuck. Not that NBC really cares about 1 viewer LOL

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80187 Robert Seidman Fri, 01 May 2009 00:32:12 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80187 Chris, I'm not offended, but don't be offended by this: none of that publicity had any impact on the ratings (that might not be technically true -- it's possible that the publicity held Chuck steady rather than seeing it drop, but the numbers for the finale weren't bigger than the week before). And even with DVR it's close and in the most recent week Medium held a slight Live+7 adults 18-49 advantage. To Riff's point though, Chuck does have the noticeably better 18-34 numbers. Chris, I’m not offended, but don’t be offended by this: none of that publicity had any impact on the ratings (that might not be technically true — it’s possible that the publicity held Chuck steady rather than seeing it drop, but the numbers for the finale weren’t bigger than the week before). And even with DVR it’s close and in the most recent week Medium held a slight Live+7 adults 18-49 advantage. To Riff’s point though, Chuck does have the noticeably better 18-34 numbers.

]]> By: David http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80185 David Fri, 01 May 2009 00:30:08 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80185 It's ratings and money. The Medium deal discussed elsewhere sounds pretty lucrative. The studio may be even more willing to deal. A cheaper show with better ratings, notwithstanding internet buzz among fans, seems like a better option. That really sucks as I really like Chuck, but it is a business. With that said, I hope Nick C. is wrong, and this is some last minute negotiating by NBC to drive down the price! It’s ratings and money. The Medium deal discussed elsewhere sounds pretty lucrative. The studio may be even more willing to deal. A cheaper show with better ratings, notwithstanding internet buzz among fans, seems like a better option. That really sucks as I really like Chuck, but it is a business. With that said, I hope Nick C. is wrong, and this is some last minute negotiating by NBC to drive down the price!

]]> By: Chris http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80184 Chris Fri, 01 May 2009 00:27:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80184 No offense, but there is no way Medium should beat out Chuck (if it is between the two) Just look at the publicity Chuck as garnered all over the internet. I don't see the same thing from Medium fans at all. NBC would be dumb to choose Medium over Chuck. Then again they are giving Leno 5 hours of prime time a week. I need to hire the guy that successfully pitch that. everyone but NBC knows it isn't going to work No offense, but there is no way Medium should beat out Chuck (if it is between the two) Just look at the publicity Chuck as garnered all over the internet. I don’t see the same thing from Medium fans at all. NBC would be dumb to choose Medium over Chuck. Then again they are giving Leno 5 hours of prime time a week. I need to hire the guy that successfully pitch that. everyone but NBC knows it isn’t going to work

]]> By: David http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80183 David Fri, 01 May 2009 00:23:38 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80183 Based on Robert's comments, I'm afraid Chuck is toast. Based on Robert’s comments, I’m afraid Chuck is toast.

]]> By: Riff Rafferty http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80182 Riff Rafferty Fri, 01 May 2009 00:23:31 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80182 CBS Paramount wants another 13 episodes of "Medium?" Then they better pull out their checkbooks and be prepared to eat the cost like Sony did with "Til Death." Because this show is circling the drain, and its budget is the anchor. Well, that and skewing geriatric. CBS Paramount wants another 13 episodes of “Medium?” Then they better pull out their checkbooks and be prepared to eat the cost like Sony did with “Til Death.” Because this show is circling the drain, and its budget is the anchor.

Well, that and skewing geriatric.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80181 Robert Seidman Fri, 01 May 2009 00:22:01 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80181 Holly, Medium will be at 95 episodes at the end of this season, CBS might be more willing to deal to get to ~ 110 episodes and be deemed more worthy of Mon-Fri syndicated stripping. And even if all those things still even out, Medium has the .1 ratings point advantage. Holly, Medium will be at 95 episodes at the end of this season, CBS might be more willing to deal to get to ~ 110 episodes and be deemed more worthy of Mon-Fri syndicated stripping.

And even if all those things still even out, Medium has the .1 ratings point advantage.

]]> By: David http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80177 David Fri, 01 May 2009 00:17:09 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80177 Nick C., are we going to hear sooner than Monday? Do you have a good idea of when? Nick C., are we going to hear sooner than Monday? Do you have a good idea of when?

]]> By: Holly http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80176 Holly Fri, 01 May 2009 00:15:46 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80176 The Lifetime syndication deal for Medium could be counter-balanced by the product placement deals on Chuck. The Lifetime syndication deal for Medium could be counter-balanced by the product placement deals on Chuck.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80175 Robert Seidman Fri, 01 May 2009 00:10:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80175 Holly, I could definitely be wrong but I'm guessing that does give Medium an advantage in any price negotiations. Which show NBC likes the most probably favors the show that costs the least per demo ratings points. Holly, I could definitely be wrong but I’m guessing that does give Medium an advantage in any price negotiations. Which show NBC likes the most probably favors the show that costs the least per demo ratings points.

]]> By: Holly http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80174 Holly Fri, 01 May 2009 00:07:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80174 Robert, Since CBS Paramount produces Medium, I don't think NBC is in on the deal with Lifetime, so that probably won't affect the decision unless CBS is willing to dramatically cut the fees for it. Robert, Since CBS Paramount produces Medium, I don’t think NBC is in on the deal with Lifetime, so that probably won’t affect the decision unless CBS is willing to dramatically cut the fees for it.

]]> By: Dylan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80173 Dylan Fri, 01 May 2009 00:03:49 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80173 Actually Nick, what's your source, if you don't mind me asking? Actually Nick, what’s your source, if you don’t mind me asking?

]]> By: Sam http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80172 Sam Fri, 01 May 2009 00:03:32 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80172 You obviously didn't watch the finale of Chuck Largemarge. You obviously didn’t watch the finale of Chuck Largemarge.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80171 Robert Seidman Fri, 01 May 2009 00:00:52 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80171 given whatever cost structure/revenue advantages/arrangements Medium/NBC/Lifetime Network have as a result of airing Medium on Lifetime, I hope it's really not an either or decision. given whatever cost structure/revenue advantages/arrangements Medium/NBC/Lifetime Network have as a result of airing Medium on Lifetime, I hope it’s really not an either or decision.

]]> By: Dylan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80168 Dylan Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:53:13 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80168 Frank, if it comes to which show they like more, it'd be Chuck without a doubt. NBC is very outspoken in it's love of the show. Frank, if it comes to which show they like more, it’d be Chuck without a doubt. NBC is very outspoken in it’s love of the show.

]]> By: FrankJ http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80167 FrankJ Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:51:48 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80167 Nick C, is this a numbers decision anymore, or do you think it'll come down to the show that's loved more by Ben and Angela? Nick C, is this a numbers decision anymore, or do you think it’ll come down to the show that’s loved more by Ben and Angela?

]]> By: Dylan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-10/#comment-80165 Dylan Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:50:57 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80165 Did you watch the Chuck finale LargeMarge? Everything you pointed out changes lol, just saying. Trust me, I like Medium, but it's kinda old hat now. It's been around so long (seems like), that I'm no longer intrigued. Chuck is younger, can go more places. Did you watch the Chuck finale LargeMarge? Everything you pointed out changes lol, just saying. Trust me, I like Medium, but it’s kinda old hat now. It’s been around so long (seems like), that I’m no longer intrigued. Chuck is younger, can go more places.

]]> By: Dylan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-9/#comment-80164 Dylan Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:48:06 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80164 At the same time, Chuck can reach a much larger demographic than Medium. Medium is a 10 pm show. Chuck is a somewhat family friendly show that holds its own in a very competitive slot. Bigger demo = More money. CAN being the key word. Your point is a good one though. At the same time, Chuck can reach a much larger demographic than Medium. Medium is a 10 pm show. Chuck is a somewhat family friendly show that holds its own in a very competitive slot. Bigger demo = More money. CAN being the key word. Your point is a good one though.

]]> By: LargeMarge http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-9/#comment-80163 LargeMarge Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:46:59 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80163 As much as I like Chuck, it does have an expiration date... Becausehim being the holder of all info but not really wanting to be has to end. And the fact he hasn't gotten much better at being a spy after so much time is starting to get old. Medium is one of the few shows that depicts a believable marriage but has the crime fighting bonus of Allison's dreams. Plus: Joe in his boxers never gets old. ;) Hmmm... but Chuck has the goodness that is Adam Baldwin. Tough choice. As much as I like Chuck, it does have an expiration date… Becausehim being the holder of all info but not really wanting to be has to end. And the fact he hasn’t gotten much better at being a spy after so much time is starting to get old.
Medium is one of the few shows that depicts a believable marriage but has the crime fighting bonus of Allison’s dreams. Plus: Joe in his boxers never gets old. ;)
Hmmm… but Chuck has the goodness that is Adam Baldwin.
Tough choice.

]]> By: Holly http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-9/#comment-80160 Holly Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:39:04 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80160 A major advantage to Medium is that they can hold it until mid-season (for Sundays or to replace something) without worrying about the long break killing it. I don't think you could say the same about Chuck. A major advantage to Medium is that they can hold it until mid-season (for Sundays or to replace something) without worrying about the long break killing it. I don’t think you could say the same about Chuck.

]]> By: Riff Rafferty http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-9/#comment-80159 Riff Rafferty Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:33:08 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80159 GO CHICK WHO SEES THINGS IN HER DREAMS GO! Wait, what? GO CHICK WHO SEES THINGS IN HER DREAMS GO!

Wait, what?

]]> By: Dylan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-9/#comment-80157 Dylan Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:27:11 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80157 Considering that Chuck is younger, it has more places that it can go. Medium is getting a little tired for me. Don't get me wrong, it's a quality show, but there's more room for Chuck to grow. I think NBC will see it in a similar light, what with their hopes to change things up. Considering that Chuck is younger, it has more places that it can go. Medium is getting a little tired for me. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a quality show, but there’s more room for Chuck to grow. I think NBC will see it in a similar light, what with their hopes to change things up.

]]> By: ljo http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-9/#comment-80154 ljo Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:25:21 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80154 I watch both shows and will miss which ever one isn't brought back. I watch both shows and will miss which ever one isn’t brought back.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552/comment-page-9/#comment-80150 Bill Gorman Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:14:09 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/28/oddsmakers-what-are-the-chances-for-nbc-show-renewals/17552#comment-80150 Over/Under: Time before Chuck fans go postal on Medium fans: 1 minute. ;) Over/Under: Time before Chuck fans go postal on Medium fans: 1 minute. ;)

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