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	<title>Comments on: NBC Announces New Series, Renews Several Others, Nothing Yet On Chuck, Medium</title>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 09:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heroes and svu are here to stay get used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heroes and svu are here to stay get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: VYuci</title>
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		<dc:creator>VYuci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NY Times has quoted Tim Kring, creator of Heroes, in saying Heroes will air in September until the start of the Olympics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/business/media/05adco.html?_r=2&amp;ref=television</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NY Times has quoted Tim Kring, creator of Heroes, in saying Heroes will air in September until the start of the Olympics.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/business/media/05adco.html?_r=2&#038;ref=television" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/business/media/05adco.html?_r=2&#038;ref=television</a></p>
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		<title>By: chet</title>
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		<dc:creator>chet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i see a few commments on HEROES
for my part and observations
kill the cheerleader save the show...

they need a complete restart
im not sure how they can come back from the last season
without starting over kill everyone-start anew etc
but doing so will also kill the show asd people like their heroes
twisted and unrecognizable as they are now...

the writers definately have their work cut out for themselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i see a few commments on HEROES<br />
for my part and observations<br />
kill the cheerleader save the show&#8230;</p>
<p>they need a complete restart<br />
im not sure how they can come back from the last season<br />
without starting over kill everyone-start anew etc<br />
but doing so will also kill the show asd people like their heroes<br />
twisted and unrecognizable as they are now&#8230;</p>
<p>the writers definately have their work cut out for themselves</p>
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		<title>By: thedemonhog</title>
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		<dc:creator>thedemonhog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, there is already a post on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, there is already a post on that.</p>
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		<title>By: thedemonhog</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/05/04/nbc-announces-new-series-renews-heroes-southland-parks-recreation-snl-weekend-update-no-mention-of-chuck/17951/comment-page-8/#comment-82765</link>
		<dc:creator>thedemonhog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 07:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another post to outsmart the spam filter.   http://tvdonewright.com/2009-2010-season-preview/nbc-upfront-coverage/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another post to outsmart the spam filter.   <a href="http://tvdonewright.com/2009-2010-season-preview/nbc-upfront-coverage/" rel="nofollow">http://tvdonewright.com/2009-2010-season-preview/nbc-upfront-coverage/</a></p>
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		<title>By: thedemonhog</title>
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		<dc:creator>thedemonhog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 07:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Trauma&lt;/i&gt; will lead-out of &lt;i&gt;Heroes&lt;/i&gt; on Mondays, &lt;i&gt;The Biggest Loser&lt;/i&gt; will air on Tuesdays, &lt;i&gt;Law &amp; Order: Special Victims Unit&lt;/i&gt; on Wednesday, sitcoms (one of which will be &lt;i&gt;100 Questions&lt;/i&gt;) will take Thursdays, &lt;i&gt;Dateline&lt;/i&gt; and crime procedural repeats on Saturdays and football on Sunday.  http://www.tvweek.com/news/2009/05/nbc_picks_up_6_new_series_rene.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Trauma</i> will lead-out of <i>Heroes</i> on Mondays, <i>The Biggest Loser</i> will air on Tuesdays, <i>Law &amp; Order: Special Victims Unit</i> on Wednesday, sitcoms (one of which will be <i>100 Questions</i>) will take Thursdays, <i>Dateline</i> and crime procedural repeats on Saturdays and football on Sunday.  <a href="http://www.tvweek.com/news/2009/05/nbc_picks_up_6_new_series_rene.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvweek.com/news/2009/05/nbc_picks_up_6_new_series_rene.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: nepps</title>
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		<dc:creator>nepps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knight Rider is NOT canceled...yet!

Support the quest for season two!


BTW, NBC should consider reviving &quot;Uncle Buck.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knight Rider is NOT canceled&#8230;yet!</p>
<p>Support the quest for season two!</p>
<p>BTW, NBC should consider reviving &#8220;Uncle Buck.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercy kind of sounds like Grey&#039;s Anatomy: The Nurses Addition. Definatly watching Trauma, love how intense the promo was! Community sounds funny, i love Joel McHale on The Soup. Parenthood kind of looks like Brothers and Sisters, but it looks good! so, i think nbc has some ok looking shows. Really though, i want to see what the other networks are doing so i can see how much competition might happene this season. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mercy kind of sounds like Grey&#8217;s Anatomy: The Nurses Addition. Definatly watching Trauma, love how intense the promo was! Community sounds funny, i love Joel McHale on The Soup. Parenthood kind of looks like Brothers and Sisters, but it looks good! so, i think nbc has some ok looking shows. Really though, i want to see what the other networks are doing so i can see how much competition might happene this season. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the 100 Davids on the site wrote, &quot;Mercy is too expensive for Friday night.&quot;


Untrue. 

And that is where I see it landing. (Although the only hope it has is to air out of &quot;The Biggest Loser.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the 100 Davids on the site wrote, &#8220;Mercy is too expensive for Friday night.&#8221;</p>
<p>Untrue. </p>
<p>And that is where I see it landing. (Although the only hope it has is to air out of &#8220;The Biggest Loser.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what its worth the WB television site says &quot;New episodes this fall&quot; under the listing for Chuck (http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/television/index.jsp?fromtout=home_menu_tv_item0#) (you have to click the &quot;M&quot; on the calendar on the right side of the page).  Hopefully that&#039;s good news.  Until then, I&#039;ll have to rely on Nick C&#039;s comments to keep me calm :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what its worth the WB television site says &#8220;New episodes this fall&#8221; under the listing for Chuck (<a href="http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/television/index.jsp?fromtout=home_menu_tv_item0#" rel="nofollow">http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/television/index.jsp?fromtout=home_menu_tv_item0#</a>) (you have to click the &#8220;M&#8221; on the calendar on the right side of the page).  Hopefully that&#8217;s good news.  Until then, I&#8217;ll have to rely on Nick C&#8217;s comments to keep me calm <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick C, So, what does this mean you are now predicting????

It seems to me that the discussion is probably NBC wants Chuck cheap and 9-13 episodes, plus a $2 million waiver on LM, and Warner is countering at 16-22 (to recoup the $2 million), with $1 million waiver, etc. The negotiations are to figure out what works for both. This, of course, is speculation. (But to brag, I guessed last week that it may be that NBC may be using Chuck to leverage out of the $2 million LM payement, which proves that even a blind squirll (me) finds an acorn now and again!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick C, So, what does this mean you are now predicting????</p>
<p>It seems to me that the discussion is probably NBC wants Chuck cheap and 9-13 episodes, plus a $2 million waiver on LM, and Warner is countering at 16-22 (to recoup the $2 million), with $1 million waiver, etc. The negotiations are to figure out what works for both. This, of course, is speculation. (But to brag, I guessed last week that it may be that NBC may be using Chuck to leverage out of the $2 million LM payement, which proves that even a blind squirll (me) finds an acorn now and again!).</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Nikki rocks.  I was told that CHUCK was being delayed due to a contractual issue that wasn&#039;t about fees, etc. for CHUCK.  I assumed it was with cast or someone like with MEDIUM and L&amp;O.  MEDIUM for instance isn&#039;t official yet because it requires the star to agree to less episodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Nikki rocks.  I was told that CHUCK was being delayed due to a contractual issue that wasn&#8217;t about fees, etc. for CHUCK.  I assumed it was with cast or someone like with MEDIUM and L&amp;O.  MEDIUM for instance isn&#8217;t official yet because it requires the star to agree to less episodes.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100 Questions=Coupling
Community=Community Service with no time off for gaggingly bad behaviour
Trauma=Mother, Jugs &amp; Speed II
Parenthood=Parenthood 1990 aka 13 Weeks And Out
Trauma=Grey&#039;s Lite to the point of albino
Day One=Heroes Season 3
Jay Leno=NBC Follies 1973</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100 Questions=Coupling<br />
Community=Community Service with no time off for gaggingly bad behaviour<br />
Trauma=Mother, Jugs &amp; Speed II<br />
Parenthood=Parenthood 1990 aka 13 Weeks And Out<br />
Trauma=Grey&#8217;s Lite to the point of albino<br />
Day One=Heroes Season 3<br />
Jay Leno=NBC Follies 1973</p>
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		<title>By: Lies Never Work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lies Never Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defendants do not dispute that Idai is a fully developed character in
plaintiffs’ novel, and that the expression of his character is complex and, to some
extent, original. 
Taken from the NBC/Heroes Legal Briefs to the NYC Appellate Court May 2009 

Note: Idai Markus is the original NYC artist that paints the future on large canvas before it happens.
On September 26, 2006 Idai Markus became Isaac Mendez on the tv show Heroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defendants do not dispute that Idai is a fully developed character in<br />
plaintiffs’ novel, and that the expression of his character is complex and, to some<br />
extent, original.<br />
Taken from the NBC/Heroes Legal Briefs to the NYC Appellate Court May 2009 </p>
<p>Note: Idai Markus is the original NYC artist that paints the future on large canvas before it happens.<br />
On September 26, 2006 Idai Markus became Isaac Mendez on the tv show Heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: Lies Never Work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lies Never Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no help for NBC or HEROES.
Both are FINISHED.
Jeff Sucker is a MORON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no help for NBC or HEROES.<br />
Both are FINISHED.<br />
Jeff Sucker is a MORON.</p>
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		<title>By: Liban A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liban A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriosuly I&#039;m in love with Mercy already...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriosuly I&#8217;m in love with Mercy already&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: paul 80</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul 80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>f Chuck had the words IN ASSOCIATION WITH NBC UNIVERSAL TELEVISION or UNIVERSAL MEDIA in the end of show credits, it would have a 13+9 pickup.

Vertical monopoly, means, We (NBC) own or partially own TV content and distribution, start to finish, kiss our ass.

&quot;Managing by the margins&quot;, means, if you have 12 hours of prime time content pulling 4-8 million viewers, you better own it. That way you can tap in to all and every alternative revenue stream now and in future.

&quot;Trading dollars for pennies&quot;, means, we want all the pennies we can get, because they add up to dollars, but only if you (NBC) own the content

&quot;Branding&quot;, means, NBC owns the supermarket and they want only their labels on the shelf.

Note to Warner bros- Start investing in CW and buy or start new cable channels (distribution) or you will be out of the TV Production business in ten years</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>f Chuck had the words IN ASSOCIATION WITH NBC UNIVERSAL TELEVISION or UNIVERSAL MEDIA in the end of show credits, it would have a 13+9 pickup.</p>
<p>Vertical monopoly, means, We (NBC) own or partially own TV content and distribution, start to finish, kiss our ass.</p>
<p>&#8220;Managing by the margins&#8221;, means, if you have 12 hours of prime time content pulling 4-8 million viewers, you better own it. That way you can tap in to all and every alternative revenue stream now and in future.</p>
<p>&#8220;Trading dollars for pennies&#8221;, means, we want all the pennies we can get, because they add up to dollars, but only if you (NBC) own the content</p>
<p>&#8220;Branding&#8221;, means, NBC owns the supermarket and they want only their labels on the shelf.</p>
<p>Note to Warner bros- Start investing in CW and buy or start new cable channels (distribution) or you will be out of the TV Production business in ten years</p>
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		<title>By: Fin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After seeing the trailers I take it back, NBC&#039;s line up does look good: Trauma reminds me of Southland. All the new shows look awesome except 100 Questions (which looks like another Kath &amp; Kim). Though I want to know if Heroes will return in the fall or spring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing the trailers I take it back, NBC&#8217;s line up does look good: Trauma reminds me of Southland. All the new shows look awesome except 100 Questions (which looks like another Kath &amp; Kim). Though I want to know if Heroes will return in the fall or spring.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly,

I&#039;ve seen those mentioned, but didn&#039;t think that they were confirmed yesterday by NBC.  In other words, yesterday&#039;s announcement was for its &quot;big splash&quot; shows in the Fall. Those seem to me to be after-thoughts for Spring. If I missed something, I apologize. Even if they did mention them yesterday, it&#039;s still odd that Graboff describes this as the difference between NBC and its successful rivals, and yet, as best, these are something to come later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen those mentioned, but didn&#8217;t think that they were confirmed yesterday by NBC.  In other words, yesterday&#8217;s announcement was for its &#8220;big splash&#8221; shows in the Fall. Those seem to me to be after-thoughts for Spring. If I missed something, I apologize. Even if they did mention them yesterday, it&#8217;s still odd that Graboff describes this as the difference between NBC and its successful rivals, and yet, as best, these are something to come later.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parenthood is NBC&#039;s baby that it expects to succeed. It won&#039;t put it on Friday night to die. Mercy is too expensive for Friday night. I suggested Chuck on Friday night yesterday and someone correctly pointed out that it is too expensive for that night. However, I wonder if that might change if Warner agrees to the $2 million waiver of the Legally Mad option. That means that Chuck comes at a $2 million discount, which on a 13 episode order, is around an 18% discount. Couple that with what I am sure is a reduced license fee, and perhaps Chuck&#039;s cost goes down enough to make it a Friday night show.

As for Tuesday, while I could see NBC reducing Biggest Loser by .5 hours, a full hour reduction seems unlikely.

Finally, I see Medium coming in to replace whatever show failed in the Fall. At least one of Southland, Mercy, Trauma or Parenthood will not make it to the Spring (or so I&#039;d guess), and that&#039;s where Medium will land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parenthood is NBC&#8217;s baby that it expects to succeed. It won&#8217;t put it on Friday night to die. Mercy is too expensive for Friday night. I suggested Chuck on Friday night yesterday and someone correctly pointed out that it is too expensive for that night. However, I wonder if that might change if Warner agrees to the $2 million waiver of the Legally Mad option. That means that Chuck comes at a $2 million discount, which on a 13 episode order, is around an 18% discount. Couple that with what I am sure is a reduced license fee, and perhaps Chuck&#8217;s cost goes down enough to make it a Friday night show.</p>
<p>As for Tuesday, while I could see NBC reducing Biggest Loser by .5 hours, a full hour reduction seems unlikely.</p>
<p>Finally, I see Medium coming in to replace whatever show failed in the Fall. At least one of Southland, Mercy, Trauma or Parenthood will not make it to the Spring (or so I&#8217;d guess), and that&#8217;s where Medium will land.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, NBC does have new &quot;reality&quot; shows. Aside from 5 hours/week of Leno, they also have:

THE MARRIAGE REF
Comedy Legend Jerry Seinfeld is the creator and producer of this non-scripted look at marriage as celebrities, comedians and sports stars decide who is right…and who is wrong…in real-life disputes between real-life spouses.

BREAKTHROUGH WITH TONY ROBBINS
Best-selling author and philanthropist Tony Robbins attempts to inspire people to search out the tools to forever change their lives. 

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
A different celebrity each week embarks on a journey of self discovery, revealing stories that are often linked to events in American history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, NBC does have new &#8220;reality&#8221; shows. Aside from 5 hours/week of Leno, they also have:</p>
<p>THE MARRIAGE REF<br />
Comedy Legend Jerry Seinfeld is the creator and producer of this non-scripted look at marriage as celebrities, comedians and sports stars decide who is right…and who is wrong…in real-life disputes between real-life spouses.</p>
<p>BREAKTHROUGH WITH TONY ROBBINS<br />
Best-selling author and philanthropist Tony Robbins attempts to inspire people to search out the tools to forever change their lives. </p>
<p>WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?<br />
A different celebrity each week embarks on a journey of self discovery, revealing stories that are often linked to events in American history.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MON: (fall)HEORES/TRAUMA/LENO
	(spring 1)  DayOne/Medium
	(Spring 2) Heroes/ Medium
TUE: (fall)Biggest Loser/100 Questions/Earle/LENO

WED: (fall)SOUTHLAND/L&amp;O:SVU/LENO

THU: (Fall)OFFICE/P&amp;R/30Rock/(Weekend Update for 4 weeks)Community/LENO

FRI:  (fall)Parenthood/Mercy/LENO

SAT: Deal or No Deal/L&amp;O (reruns)/L&amp;O:CI(USA RPEATS)
 
SUN: (fall) Football
	(Spring) Friday Night Lights/Chuck/L&amp;O/Celebrity Apprentice
That is my Guess for their schedule, unless Earle doesn’t get renewed, then Parenthood will be on Tue and L&amp;O on Fri, P&amp;R on the bench till midseason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MON: (fall)HEORES/TRAUMA/LENO<br />
	(spring 1)  DayOne/Medium<br />
	(Spring 2) Heroes/ Medium<br />
TUE: (fall)Biggest Loser/100 Questions/Earle/LENO</p>
<p>WED: (fall)SOUTHLAND/L&amp;O:SVU/LENO</p>
<p>THU: (Fall)OFFICE/P&amp;R/30Rock/(Weekend Update for 4 weeks)Community/LENO</p>
<p>FRI:  (fall)Parenthood/Mercy/LENO</p>
<p>SAT: Deal or No Deal/L&amp;O (reruns)/L&amp;O:CI(USA RPEATS)</p>
<p>SUN: (fall) Football<br />
	(Spring) Friday Night Lights/Chuck/L&amp;O/Celebrity Apprentice<br />
That is my Guess for their schedule, unless Earle doesn’t get renewed, then Parenthood will be on Tue and L&amp;O on Fri, P&amp;R on the bench till midseason</p>
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		<title>By: BMack</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - you, sir, should be in marketing.  That last line made me laugh out loud :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; you, sir, should be in marketing.  That last line made me laugh out loud <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m not a reality fan, I find it odd that NBC has no new reality shows, has suggested that it may trim Biggest Loser (which would be odd given how good its ratings are compared to everything else), and yet Marc Graboff told people yesterday that NBC needs a large reality hit to attract female viewers. You would think that the NBC execs would have a team meeting before they talk to the media to make sure everyone is on the same page!

Also, the less murder Leno campaign that started yesterday is interesting, but dangerous. Seems like you run the risk of telling people that may stick around for Leno that something scripted is on another station. It&#039;s even more odd when you have L&amp;O SVU and Southland which are both pretty gritty, and Trauma and Mercy, both of which will likely have lots of blood and death. Are the Fall 9 p.m. ads during these shows going to say something like, &quot;now that you&#039;ve had enough death, on to the laughs???&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m not a reality fan, I find it odd that NBC has no new reality shows, has suggested that it may trim Biggest Loser (which would be odd given how good its ratings are compared to everything else), and yet Marc Graboff told people yesterday that NBC needs a large reality hit to attract female viewers. You would think that the NBC execs would have a team meeting before they talk to the media to make sure everyone is on the same page!</p>
<p>Also, the less murder Leno campaign that started yesterday is interesting, but dangerous. Seems like you run the risk of telling people that may stick around for Leno that something scripted is on another station. It&#8217;s even more odd when you have L&amp;O SVU and Southland which are both pretty gritty, and Trauma and Mercy, both of which will likely have lots of blood and death. Are the Fall 9 p.m. ads during these shows going to say something like, &#8220;now that you&#8217;ve had enough death, on to the laughs???&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how any of the new shows are gonna do, but I really want Chuck to get renewed. Many people, like my friend Samir, want other shows to fail so that Chuck can suceed. I am not one of those people. However, I really hope Chuck gets renewed on May 19th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how any of the new shows are gonna do, but I really want Chuck to get renewed. Many people, like my friend Samir, want other shows to fail so that Chuck can suceed. I am not one of those people. However, I really hope Chuck gets renewed on May 19th.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaykordeath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaykordeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if we gave NBC 110% of the benefit of the doubt:
What if NBC is going out on a HUGE limb, and actually planning on 2 complete &quot;seasons&quot; without going into summer re-runs.  This fall, Run 1/2 of the shows they have in production, and in the Summer/Spring, bring out an entire NEW line up of shows?  

I&#039;ve seen it speculated before about networks doing away with the &quot;seasonal&quot; mentality.  With Cable networks leading the charge with premiering shows in various months, could NBC consider something drastic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if we gave NBC 110% of the benefit of the doubt:<br />
What if NBC is going out on a HUGE limb, and actually planning on 2 complete &#8220;seasons&#8221; without going into summer re-runs.  This fall, Run 1/2 of the shows they have in production, and in the Summer/Spring, bring out an entire NEW line up of shows?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen it speculated before about networks doing away with the &#8220;seasonal&#8221; mentality.  With Cable networks leading the charge with premiering shows in various months, could NBC consider something drastic?</p>
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		<title>By: isla</title>
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		<dc:creator>isla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone heard anything about what their plans are for Lost and Found? Are they really turning down a Dick Wolf show? Although I wasn&#039;t sure about some of the casting choices and the premise seemed a bit old...
If the don&#039;t pick up Legally Mad I hope Kirstin Chenowith gets something else soon, she&#039;s so talented!

The 100 Questions clips are awful, I didn&#039;t laugh once and the laugther track makes things even more akward!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone heard anything about what their plans are for Lost and Found? Are they really turning down a Dick Wolf show? Although I wasn&#8217;t sure about some of the casting choices and the premise seemed a bit old&#8230;<br />
If the don&#8217;t pick up Legally Mad I hope Kirstin Chenowith gets something else soon, she&#8217;s so talented!</p>
<p>The 100 Questions clips are awful, I didn&#8217;t laugh once and the laugther track makes things even more akward!</p>
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		<title>By: Liban A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liban A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you people actually watching the trailers, or just bad-mouthing the shows from the name?

Me5rcy looks nothing like ER, it looks different.... I&#039;m exicited!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you people actually watching the trailers, or just bad-mouthing the shows from the name?</p>
<p>Me5rcy looks nothing like ER, it looks different&#8230;. I&#8217;m exicited!</p>
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		<title>By: ThePattern</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThePattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 09:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/nbc-announces-20092010-primetime-sked/
As for Heroes, and I say this as an owner of the 1st 2 seasons DVDs, but this show needs to be canceled. It&#039;s become a parody of itself just like the Superman movies which from great to LOL parodies of themselves. Heroes is cliched, badly written and stories and powers are recycled again and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/nbc-announces-20092010-primetime-sked/" rel="nofollow">http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/nbc-announces-20092010-primetime-sked/</a><br />
As for Heroes, and I say this as an owner of the 1st 2 seasons DVDs, but this show needs to be canceled. It&#8217;s become a parody of itself just like the Superman movies which from great to LOL parodies of themselves. Heroes is cliched, badly written and stories and powers are recycled again and again.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePattern</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThePattern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 09:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what Nikki Finke is saying about Chuck&#039;s renewal possibility

&quot;3RD UPDATE: I&#039;ve learned why announcements regarding the renewal fates of Chuck and My Name Is Earl have been delayed. And it involves more horsetrading than the Triple Crown. My sources tell me that NBC lowballed the Earl license fee, and the show&#039;s owner, Twentieth Century Fox, came back with a proposal which NBC has been sitting on for a few days. As for Chuck, this gets complicated. Turns out NBC didn&#039;t like David E Kelley&#039;s Warner Bros pilot Legally Mad. Problem is, there&#039;s a $2 million penalty that gets paid to WB if the network doesn&#039;t pick up the show. So NBC is hoping to work a deal tying the renewal of Chuck, which is also a WB show, to a pass on paying that Legally Mad penalty.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what Nikki Finke is saying about Chuck&#8217;s renewal possibility</p>
<p>&#8220;3RD UPDATE: I&#8217;ve learned why announcements regarding the renewal fates of Chuck and My Name Is Earl have been delayed. And it involves more horsetrading than the Triple Crown. My sources tell me that NBC lowballed the Earl license fee, and the show&#8217;s owner, Twentieth Century Fox, came back with a proposal which NBC has been sitting on for a few days. As for Chuck, this gets complicated. Turns out NBC didn&#8217;t like David E Kelley&#8217;s Warner Bros pilot Legally Mad. Problem is, there&#8217;s a $2 million penalty that gets paid to WB if the network doesn&#8217;t pick up the show. So NBC is hoping to work a deal tying the renewal of Chuck, which is also a WB show, to a pass on paying that Legally Mad penalty.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Law &amp; Order please???????</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Steven Hack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Steven Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see Cliff Curtis get his own show (Trauma). I liked him in Live Free and Die Hard and his role in &quot;Push&quot; recently.

Also I remember that scene with the fuel truck blowing up on the freeway in San Francisco - they shut down the freeway to do that scene, and it didn&#039;t make a lot of San Franciscans happy who had to reroute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see Cliff Curtis get his own show (Trauma). I liked him in Live Free and Die Hard and his role in &#8220;Push&#8221; recently.</p>
<p>Also I remember that scene with the fuel truck blowing up on the freeway in San Francisco &#8211; they shut down the freeway to do that scene, and it didn&#8217;t make a lot of San Franciscans happy who had to reroute.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like Medical Drams well tune in for them</description>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they are giving us not ONE, but TWO more medical dramas????  WTF???  Hey, NBC, there&#039;s a reason that ER finally ended.  And now you&#039;re going to give us Trauma?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they are giving us not ONE, but TWO more medical dramas????  WTF???  Hey, NBC, there&#8217;s a reason that ER finally ended.  And now you&#8217;re going to give us Trauma?</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh crap! I was hoping for good news about Chuck!  Well - I might watch Community. Maybe Day One if it really is a &#039;limited series&#039; thing. Otherwise -- sounds blah to me . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh crap! I was hoping for good news about Chuck!  Well &#8211; I might watch Community. Maybe Day One if it really is a &#8216;limited series&#8217; thing. Otherwise &#8212; sounds blah to me . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m surprised by two things here.

1) No Legally Mad. It would seem that reports of the pilot being a mess were true. Even if NBC were or are planning to hold off on it until midseason I see no reason for them not to announce it today given that everyone had already assumed they were going to pick it up anyway. 

2) Two new medical dramas. Clearly NBC is looking for a new ER and to their credit they seem to have picked up two shows that should be different from one another but launching two new medical dramas in the same season seems a bit like overkill to me. Although maybe not given how many procedurals CBS launches every year. 

As it is I’m a little disappointed that they haven’t picked up Lost &amp; Found (I think) which sounded like a show with some potential and a potentially fun interesting character. Although I guess after the way Life panned out they felt passing on a ‘quirky’ procedural might be for the best and I can’t really fault them on that. 

I can’t however say I’m that surprised about them moving Day One after the Olympics although I think it’s a bad move when looking at the bigger picture. Partly because Day One sounds like a Survivors rip-off (and the remake of Survivors was awful) and partly because I’d assume that the reason you shift it after the Olympics is to make use of the Olympics as a promotional tool and if it’s a limited run show I’m not convinced that’ll make much sense in the long run. Unless they’re hoping that Day One will ‘decontaminate’ Mondays @ 9 ahead of Heroes next season and give it a built in audience to work with. But then again I’m not sure that’s an especially good idea either.

Meanwhile Community sounds good and sounds like an Earl replacement to me. 

On the subject of Biggest Loser, if I’m NBC and I’m cutting 30 minutes out of Loser I’m cutting the first half hour, which is always the lowest rated does Loser as a lead out really provide much help for a new show? 

And on the subject of ‘holding back’ some renewal announcements, I can see why they’re doing it. They’re schedule next year is a difficult one to piece together and a lot of what actually fits where will likely depend on how well any given show performs. If for example Southland catches fire with its 13 episode run next year there’s no way NBC doesn’t order a back nine, which would then throw their entire schedule into chaos if they’ve already announced that shows x or y will be taking Southlands spot in the winter. They’ve got a big juggling act ahead of them with their schedule and I think they need to make sure they’ve got all their bases covered. 

I wouldn’t for example be surprised to see shows like Chuck, Medium and Law &amp; Order get very short episode orders that could potentially be upped if something bombs and if it doesn’t can then be tacked onto the final end of the season if the shows don’t bomb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m surprised by two things here.</p>
<p>1) No Legally Mad. It would seem that reports of the pilot being a mess were true. Even if NBC were or are planning to hold off on it until midseason I see no reason for them not to announce it today given that everyone had already assumed they were going to pick it up anyway. </p>
<p>2) Two new medical dramas. Clearly NBC is looking for a new ER and to their credit they seem to have picked up two shows that should be different from one another but launching two new medical dramas in the same season seems a bit like overkill to me. Although maybe not given how many procedurals CBS launches every year. </p>
<p>As it is I’m a little disappointed that they haven’t picked up Lost &amp; Found (I think) which sounded like a show with some potential and a potentially fun interesting character. Although I guess after the way Life panned out they felt passing on a ‘quirky’ procedural might be for the best and I can’t really fault them on that. </p>
<p>I can’t however say I’m that surprised about them moving Day One after the Olympics although I think it’s a bad move when looking at the bigger picture. Partly because Day One sounds like a Survivors rip-off (and the remake of Survivors was awful) and partly because I’d assume that the reason you shift it after the Olympics is to make use of the Olympics as a promotional tool and if it’s a limited run show I’m not convinced that’ll make much sense in the long run. Unless they’re hoping that Day One will ‘decontaminate’ Mondays @ 9 ahead of Heroes next season and give it a built in audience to work with. But then again I’m not sure that’s an especially good idea either.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Community sounds good and sounds like an Earl replacement to me. </p>
<p>On the subject of Biggest Loser, if I’m NBC and I’m cutting 30 minutes out of Loser I’m cutting the first half hour, which is always the lowest rated does Loser as a lead out really provide much help for a new show? </p>
<p>And on the subject of ‘holding back’ some renewal announcements, I can see why they’re doing it. They’re schedule next year is a difficult one to piece together and a lot of what actually fits where will likely depend on how well any given show performs. If for example Southland catches fire with its 13 episode run next year there’s no way NBC doesn’t order a back nine, which would then throw their entire schedule into chaos if they’ve already announced that shows x or y will be taking Southlands spot in the winter. They’ve got a big juggling act ahead of them with their schedule and I think they need to make sure they’ve got all their bases covered. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t for example be surprised to see shows like Chuck, Medium and Law &amp; Order get very short episode orders that could potentially be upped if something bombs and if it doesn’t can then be tacked onto the final end of the season if the shows don’t bomb.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Pocket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Pocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think this lineup looks pretty good. The new shows all look like winners that are appealing to casual viewers. Community doesn&#039;t sound good though. Its good to see NBC finally getting back in the multi-cam game with 100 Questions, this is where NBC should stay at with their comedies. Parenthood is the family show that we need back on network television and their going to replace ER big time with those two medical dramas.

Unlike the past seasons they had nothing but appealing serials that didn&#039;t reach casual viewers and now their finally picking back up that pre-2005 NBC audience.

As long as they group SouthLAnd with SVU on Mondays then they&#039;ll be in good shape next season to make year to year improvements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think this lineup looks pretty good. The new shows all look like winners that are appealing to casual viewers. Community doesn&#8217;t sound good though. Its good to see NBC finally getting back in the multi-cam game with 100 Questions, this is where NBC should stay at with their comedies. Parenthood is the family show that we need back on network television and their going to replace ER big time with those two medical dramas.</p>
<p>Unlike the past seasons they had nothing but appealing serials that didn&#8217;t reach casual viewers and now their finally picking back up that pre-2005 NBC audience.</p>
<p>As long as they group SouthLAnd with SVU on Mondays then they&#8217;ll be in good shape next season to make year to year improvements.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Yahoo list is ridiculously bad.</description>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahoo has an interesting article up.  It thinks TSCC has a &quot;fair&quot; chance of survival and Castle is supposedly getting renewed.

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/fall-tv-scorecard-which-shows-are-returning-which-arent--291

After reading the NBC lineup, do they really need two medical dramas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo has an interesting article up.  It thinks TSCC has a &#8220;fair&#8221; chance of survival and Castle is supposedly getting renewed.</p>
<p><a href="http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/fall-tv-scorecard-which-shows-are-returning-which-arent--291" rel="nofollow">http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/fall-tv-scorecard-which-shows-are-returning-which-arent&#8211;291</a></p>
<p>After reading the NBC lineup, do they really need two medical dramas?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of these new shows look like they have much promise. With Kings promoted so heavily and falling flat on its face, perhaps as result of just being on NBC, in the long run, it&#039;ll still likely be shows like The Office/30 Rock and The Biggest Loser is all they got. They&#039;re also probably not too thrilled that John Madden retired... while it&#039;s still football and football will always pull in the best numbers, I&#039;m intrigued on how the absence of Madden will affect ratings if anything. I&#039;ll still watch it, but I&#039;ll definitely miss him, as one of the main intrigues that I loved the most about NBC getting SNF was because of Madden and Al Michaels. I don&#039;t really watch MNF because I don&#039;t really like ESPN&#039;s coverage too much and Tony Kornheiser does nothing for me. NBC is probably desperately waiting for football to start again... too bad they don&#039;t have the Super Bowl this year, and we&#039;ll see what the Super Bowl does for CBS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of these new shows look like they have much promise. With Kings promoted so heavily and falling flat on its face, perhaps as result of just being on NBC, in the long run, it&#8217;ll still likely be shows like The Office/30 Rock and The Biggest Loser is all they got. They&#8217;re also probably not too thrilled that John Madden retired&#8230; while it&#8217;s still football and football will always pull in the best numbers, I&#8217;m intrigued on how the absence of Madden will affect ratings if anything. I&#8217;ll still watch it, but I&#8217;ll definitely miss him, as one of the main intrigues that I loved the most about NBC getting SNF was because of Madden and Al Michaels. I don&#8217;t really watch MNF because I don&#8217;t really like ESPN&#8217;s coverage too much and Tony Kornheiser does nothing for me. NBC is probably desperately waiting for football to start again&#8230; too bad they don&#8217;t have the Super Bowl this year, and we&#8217;ll see what the Super Bowl does for CBS!</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the futoncritic has 4 minute previews for all the news shows (except day 1 1.5 minute long featurette) and i could barelyy watch the whole previews 
Parenthood looks more like In the Motherhood than Brothers &amp; Sisters 
Day One i will probably give a chance though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the futoncritic has 4 minute previews for all the news shows (except day 1 1.5 minute long featurette) and i could barelyy watch the whole previews<br />
Parenthood looks more like In the Motherhood than Brothers &amp; Sisters<br />
Day One i will probably give a chance though</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did more people forget to push the right buttons on their Neilsen boxes? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did more people forget to push the right buttons on their Neilsen boxes? <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nikky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaykordeath- gotchya!  I misunderstood, and completely understand (although Dollhouse could do much better with the method- recent weeks show it can)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaykordeath- gotchya!  I misunderstood, and completely understand (although Dollhouse could do much better with the method- recent weeks show it can)</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also says on TV Guide that Medium has got a 6th season :D 

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Fall-TV-Medium-1005702.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also says on TV Guide that Medium has got a 6th season <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.tvguide.com/News/Fall-TV-Medium-1005702.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvguide.com/News/Fall-TV-Medium-1005702.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: mwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the trade papers already announced &#039;Medium&#039; is renewed. It will likely be mid season for 13 to 18 eps. 

Why would NBC not announce that, unless they are still working on a deal with CBS???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the trade papers already announced &#8216;Medium&#8217; is renewed. It will likely be mid season for 13 to 18 eps. </p>
<p>Why would NBC not announce that, unless they are still working on a deal with CBS???</p>
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		<title>By: Kaykordeath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaykordeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kaykordeath - I’m not trying to be an annoying Chuck-er (I think I’ve proven a fair anylst on the entire situation) but how can you say that show is plot driven over character driven? Thus the problem with NBC marketing. Each episode is stand alone character driven with the occasional single progressive overarching plot.&quot;

No, I was saying just the opposite.  Chuck, Castle, and even Dollhouse show that good shows CAN be character driven.  You can miss one (or more) episodes of any of these and not fall off the the track of the main plot.  These shows have proven that this is BETTER TV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kaykordeath &#8211; I’m not trying to be an annoying Chuck-er (I think I’ve proven a fair anylst on the entire situation) but how can you say that show is plot driven over character driven? Thus the problem with NBC marketing. Each episode is stand alone character driven with the occasional single progressive overarching plot.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I was saying just the opposite.  Chuck, Castle, and even Dollhouse show that good shows CAN be character driven.  You can miss one (or more) episodes of any of these and not fall off the the track of the main plot.  These shows have proven that this is BETTER TV</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I remember a poster on the Headdesk column on this site, Kim, when they linked Nikki&#039;s update that chuck, M, and L&amp;O had been renewed and will be announced today, if she is reading this....So, about that eating of a crow If I didn&#039;t trust her... that crow called, and he called her on her BS...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I remember a poster on the Headdesk column on this site, Kim, when they linked Nikki&#8217;s update that chuck, M, and L&amp;O had been renewed and will be announced today, if she is reading this&#8230;.So, about that eating of a crow If I didn&#8217;t trust her&#8230; that crow called, and he called her on her BS&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/04/sunday-night-ratings-delayed/17959&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sunday ratings delayed due to Nielsen processing issues.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/04/sunday-night-ratings-delayed/17959" rel="nofollow">Sunday ratings delayed due to Nielsen processing issues.</a></p>
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		<title>By: fra</title>
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		<dc:creator>fra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the ratings of sunday???</description>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hoping for a Medium confirmation today. I&#039;m hoping the pickups of Trauma and Parenthood won&#039;t affect Friday Night Lights too much, that both Jason Katims and Jeffrey Reiner can somehow work both shows.

I presume “Who Do You Think You Are?” is based on the BBC&#039;s genealogy series in which celebrities research their family tree. Quite successful over here, so much so it got switched to the main BBC channel. It&#039;s only shown for a limited time though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping for a Medium confirmation today. I&#8217;m hoping the pickups of Trauma and Parenthood won&#8217;t affect Friday Night Lights too much, that both Jason Katims and Jeffrey Reiner can somehow work both shows.</p>
<p>I presume “Who Do You Think You Are?” is based on the BBC&#8217;s genealogy series in which celebrities research their family tree. Quite successful over here, so much so it got switched to the main BBC channel. It&#8217;s only shown for a limited time though.</p>
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