Comments on: CW 2009-10 Schedule Announced

By: chet

chet — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:24:18 +0000

cw moving smallville-epic fail
very surprised on this descion as it was a gd performer for the network where it was
now its going to fridays to make room for something else that may or may not succeed.
i swear the people running these netowrks are monkeies with a dartboard….

hey BOBO where we gonna put smallville?
(BoBo throws dart lands on friday)
good goin BoBo fridays it is…

By: ro

ro — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:12:10 +0000

wow this is crazy the game is gone ..i think those new shows are gonna suck .. it was a bad idea to take off the game and privileged and to put smallville on fridays that really sucks… thanks alot cw

By: Mel

Mel — Sat, 23 May 2009 21:46:33 +0000

Never fear — when Vampire Diaries tanks — the CW will move Smallville back to Thursdays. If by some miracle, Vampire Diaries doesn’t tank, then the CW may have increased their numbers on 2 nights. No matter what Smallville on Fridays will do better than this season’s Friday line up did.

By: Mel

Mel — Sat, 23 May 2009 12:10:37 +0000

Have to say, I never watch the CW, I was looking forward to Body Politic and now it looks like it wasn’t picked up. Oh well, back to NOT watching the CW!

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 22 May 2009 21:26:58 +0000

Brandon – I do agree about ending Chris, but it sucks that the cancellation of that show means the end of comedies of the CW, the last of the UPN comedies, and the no more black comedies on the 5 broadcast networks. Actually a new series, Brothers is airing fridays on FOX so, that will make it only 1 black comedy on the networks. Reaper should have been treated better but again, it doesnt fit the demo. Dawn only wants series that apply to young women, like One Tree Hill, Gossip Girl, 90210, Melrose, America’s Next Top Model Beautiful Life, and Vampire Diaries. Supernatural or Smallville don’t fit the demo but still perform better than any other series, except ANTM. Smallville is gone after next year and potentially Supernatural. Also The CW slowly got rid of series that performed well but didnt fit the demo, like Friday Night Smackdown. Since The CW basically only cares about Monday-Wednesday, its safe to call it the MTW.

By: daniel Belgrave

daniel Belgrave — Fri, 22 May 2009 20:59:26 +0000

dawn and sam zell, do this right or goodbye 2010-2011 season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Bad Robot !

Bad Robot ! — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:00:59 +0000

Golly gee, I guess that means JERICHO wont be back on CW Sundays. JERICHO fans are reportedly crying in their corn moonshine – all 48 of them over on the Universal HD board.

By: J.Norman

J.Norman — Fri, 22 May 2009 15:51:13 +0000

I wish the CW had kept Reba. Yes, Yes, Yes, I know that Reba did not meet the demographic that the CW wants to cater towards.
With that said, what exactly is the demo that the CW wants to find? It must be vacant chairs in the living rooms since that appears to be all they get.
I was hoping that Priveleged and Reaper got another season, but I can understand why it didn’t. It was too important to cater to the incredibly shallow youth and put on Melrose Place, 90210, and ANTM. Oh well, if you don’t expect much. . .then. . ..
With regards to Reaper. They kept putting it in the worst time periods they could find. Understandable if you have CW suit mentality. Why even try to promote a show with potential when you can put on an onslaught of pretentious drivel.

By: Jackson

Jackson — Fri, 22 May 2009 14:50:26 +0000

I hope the CW comes to their senses and renews Reaper and air it after Smallville. That would be a good combo.

I know it’s unlikely but maybe The CW will still renew Everybody Hates Chris or another network picks it up. It at least deserves a proper series finale.

By: Jack

Jack — Fri, 22 May 2009 11:36:38 +0000

Jesus, The CW’s lineup just gets worse every season.

By: Zach

Zach — Fri, 22 May 2009 05:43:34 +0000

No Reaper…

That makes me very upset.

By: ABCFanatic

ABCFanatic — Fri, 22 May 2009 04:19:20 +0000

I actually think CW’s schedule is very clean, they only have 9 shows in Primetime which 8 of them are scripted and 1 reality show that is their biggest hit.

Good for them they don’t have a new reality show because its just gonna suck like Stylist and 13 – Fear is Real.

They only have 3 new shows for the fall even though they already cancelled 9 shows in the 2008-2009 tv season, they left Sunday for their affliates which lead to risk to move Smallville in Fridays to give away the thursday timeslot for 1 one of their new shows. I think its stupid for CW, Smallville is their #1 scripted show and they are moving it on friday. They could just abandon Friday and not Sunday because more people watch on Sundays than Friday and air Smallville and the encore of ANTM on that day (Sunday).

I think they’re Thursday are going to be ok, One Tree Hill to save Monday and ANTM to save Wednesday. Gossip Girl and those other 3 girly shows will get 1-2 million viewers only per week.

By: pete

pete — Fri, 22 May 2009 02:41:57 +0000

While I agree that Dawn is an idiot, and had pleanty of opportunities to keep CW as a network that people watched (Keep WWF on Fri who cares if you hate it its the top rated show for you network at the end of the week on a night you can’t figure out, REBA could of been kept w/ some sort of 7th Heaven Spin off and had a descently rated Family friendly Sun. night, Aquaman would of been a success following Smallville, with those moves she would of had the eyeballs to reshape the network 2 years ago rather then imploding the network and starting over from scraps of old Fox shows, fingers crossed Party of 5 and Sliders will be back next year maybe even Millenium oh waite I forgot Models Inc.(side note might work if Tyra Banks gets involved)

Saying all that the only surprise in my mind was that Gossip Girl spin-off Lily didn’t make it.

MON-While Mon. are still going to get crap ratings,

TUE-Melrose will start out strong and help out 90210 a little for a few weeks(especialy if Dawn is smart enouth to do a summer launch, don’t worry she’s not and it would cost to much for a network on the brink of going under)

WED- will of course do better its going against Model/90210 reruns.

Thur-like it or not Twilight is hot the books still sell so does the board game etc.(also you will get a few Supernatural/Moonlight/Angle/Buffy/Forever Knight fans) and Supernatural does OK in this time slot.

Fri-Smallville is the most expensive show on the net if combined w/ATM reruns in one night the budget is not as bad…this was their best choice…this will be the 2nd best choice for the mass Fri night viewer(after Ghost W.)ATM I dont understand why but the repeat usualy gets OK ratings…I would of picked up a revamped Terminator to go with it.

By: MPJ

MPJ — Fri, 22 May 2009 02:26:42 +0000

DAN: This may not be Smallville’s last year… check all the info. from the CW announcements today… lots to read between the lines … in other words, there was a lot more than just moving the show to Friday to allow room for Vampire Diaries !

By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 22 May 2009 00:14:08 +0000

“I think percentage-wise CW may be down more, Alex. But I’m not positive about that.”

I would guess you’re right about that Julia but my main point was that chances are UPN and WB would both have dropped in this climate from where they were five years ago as well. The CW shouldn’t be as low as it is but I’m not entirely sure its fair to expect it to be in the same place UPN and WB were five years ago when the broadcast model is slowly dying.

By: Jay

Jay — Thu, 21 May 2009 23:10:44 +0000

Mz. B
Terrence (from 106 & Park) said he would pressure on BET execs to pick it up.
Fingers crossed.

By: Mz. B

Mz. B — Thu, 21 May 2009 23:02:01 +0000

Goodbye CW…Dawn needs to step in the unemployment line!!! (just like you are putting others out of work.) I will never watch this network again!! You could have kept “The Game.” BET, please pick up “The Game!!!”

By: Jon K

Jon K — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:51:59 +0000

Are the trailers for the new CW shows up anywhere? I see them for all the networks except the CW.

By: Jessica

Jessica — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:49:03 +0000

I knew Reaper would be canceled, I was surprised when they picked it up for mid season for this year in the first place. Its too bad that Reaper wasn’t originally on another network (like fox) where it might have had a better chance at being promoted, watched and renewed. I thought the idea of the show was great and it was very funny at times. Oh well…

By: SLP

SLP — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:28:14 +0000

LAUNCHES IN THE FALL WITH RETURNING HITS

“GOSSIP GIRL,” “90210? AND “AMERICA’S NEXT TOP MODEL,”

I think what people are saying that Smallville and Supernatural were buried in the press release is primarily the above statement at the beginning. They make it seem like those are the “hit” shows on the CW when technically by ratings Smallville and Supernatural get higher ratings than GG and 90210.

I know that the WB/UPN merger needed to happen for a 5th network to survive. I just miss the type of shows the WB had. I feel like if the CW was run with the same programming mind-frame the WB had in its early years, I would be watching the new shows they come up with.

By: Jay

Jay — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:23:09 +0000

“Conclusion : The CW committed suicide today.”

Rivaldo, I couldn’t agree with you more.

By: Boris

Boris — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:18:52 +0000

Alex says:

“I have no idea where the idea of The CW trying to kill of Supernatural is coming from. Firstly its still in exactly the same timeslot, do Supernatural fans have such little faith in the show that they believe its entirely propped up by Smallville?”

Amen. I am a bit surprised they didn’t at least try to leverage the Supernatural audience that doesn’t care a fig about Smallville by moving it to the earlier slot, though.

By: Chuck fan

Chuck fan — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:06:46 +0000

Bring back the old WB!

By: Julia

Julia — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:02:06 +0000

I think percentage-wise CW may be down more, Alex. But I’m not positive about that.

By: Alex

Alex — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:57:27 +0000

It’s also worth pointing out that the general downward trend in broadcast will have played a part in The CW not matching the ratings at The WB or UPN. None of the networks are achieving the same figures they were five years ago, I’m not sure why The CW should be immune from that.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:55:04 +0000

CANT WAIT FOR FALL!

By: Julia

Julia — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:53:09 +0000

All these comments about CW remaining the WB don’t realize that WB needed UPN more than UPN needed WB. At the time of the merger CBS was willing to continue to pay the bills at UPN, while WB was no longer willing to pay the bills at the WB. Without the merger we might very well have UPN only and no WB.

By: Nicole

Nicole — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:43:45 +0000

CW was better left off as the WB… A lot of potential 5-10 years ago and then went downhill big time these past few years.. None of these shows would exist if they were on the network 5 years ago when “hit shows’ were considered 4.5-7 million viewers on The WB Network.. CW is lucky to have a show average 4 million viewers on a good week. I will be checking out melrose place and give one tree hill another whirl since the two most boring people on the show left lucas and peyton. I watched some of the show reaper in season one but have failed to catch it this year.. CW should have paired smallville and reaper on friday night together rather than two opposite shows even though they are the highest rated shows on the network. I will also give a beautiful life a chance as well. Good luck to the CW because you are going to need it big time!!!!

By: Brandon

Brandon — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:22:20 +0000

I agree with a lot of the above comments: I only watched two CW shows: Reaper and Chris. Chris had lost its luster and it was the right decision to end the show after four seasons. Reaper, however, is a fantastic show and deserved better. Not only does the network air almost entirely junk, but you can’t trust them to keep quality programs on the air. So, even if future shows look good (which, at the moment, they don’t) I will not watch this network anymore.

By: Holly

Holly — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:09:41 +0000

Stephen, I think you can legitimately say a lot of things about The CW’s treatment of Smallville and Supernatural, but they didn’t really bury them in the press release. The shows are mentioned in the order they appear during the week. Since SPN and SV will air on Thursday and Friday repectively, it only makes sense that they would be near the bottom of the descriptions.

By: Jill

Jill — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:01:06 +0000

Yeah, whatever, Dawn. She said the same thing when the possibility of a sixth SPN season was presented – they would “consider” it if the numbers warranted one, but she also kept hastily mentioning that there was no need to think about that now. She’s probably dancing in the streets that SV and SPN look like they’re coming to a close – their numbers are too good to warrant cancelling them, but if they end on their own, she’ll finally be free of these bastard stepchildren marring her precious 18-34 demographic.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:52:01 +0000

According to Dawn also at the upfronts she is “hoping” this isn’t Smallville’s last season. LOL. By moving it to Friday nights.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:50:33 +0000

Like how they bury Smallville and Supernatural in the press release. You would think those were the lowest rated shows on the network. Dawn is desperate for her teen girl idea to work but at what cost.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:33:39 +0000

RJ – I doubt all 3 will fail. It’s likely 1 will, but i’m sure out of confidence The CW will order additional episodes. Melrose Place, definitely wont be axed, and It seems The CW is confident on Vampire Diaries. If anything, after December if they axe a show then we’ll see 90210 repeats, but its unlikely to be all over the schedule. The CW will definitely have lower expectations for there shows, but not too low.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:25:36 +0000

Mike – same here after Chris and Reaper left, so did I. Although i did enjoy the Chris finale, although it looked as though i’ve seen it somewhere before….. and the series finale of Reaper airs next tuesday.

MPJ – This will be Smallville’s final season. Meaning that the series isn’t being moved to see how strong it is on another night, so renewal is considered. It was moved to get interest going in Fridays, since that night has been barren for The CW. It was also moved so that The CW can establish a new drama on Thursdays paired with Supernatural, so when Smallville does exit, The CW will have something for Thursdays. The Smallville move is nothing like the way Terminator was dumped on friday, that was to burn off episodes, because the series was failing.

By: RJ

RJ — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:23:01 +0000

So what is the CW going to do when two of those three fail? 90210 and Melrose Place repeats? Come on CW! You can’t just order one midseason show. Idiots…

By: Nikole

Nikole — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:22:56 +0000

Wow. Just wow. What a complete waste of air time. By the looks of things, it would seem to me that the execs at The CW don’t want to work there anymore and picked up shows that would drive their network into the ground. I think the thing that baffles me is the complete lack of common sense. If your network is doing badly, you diversify to encourage new viewers…none of their new shows is going to do that. It’s just a shame that there isn’t a network out there that really caters to the 18-25 range. I watched the clips for VD, Body Politic, and Light Years (or whatever that crapshoot is called now) and Body Politic was fun with a lot of potential (just way too good for the CW, apparently, although it could have brought them a lot of new viewers I think). Vampire Diaries is going to tank. Completely. The clips I saw came across as a very, very poor ripoff of Twilight and considering how much I hate that series, it has to be pretty bad for me to say that.

Obviously the CW isn’t really paying attention to viewers. Anywhere you go, people are saying they don’t want the same old crap, and this is exactly what they’ve done. Not to mention that I haven’t seen a single positive comment about their midseason pickup, yet everywhere you look people are asking about BP. Just doesn’t make sense to me. It’ll be amusing when it comes back to bite them.

By: MPJ

MPJ — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:10:17 +0000

I suspect Smallvilles move to Friday is a way to find out exactly how strong the show actually is. When TSSC was moved to this night, it’s so-called fans abandoned it in droves: even it one includes DVR and on-line viewership, it still
had remarkably poor numbers. Perhaps this is a way to determine if the series has enough strength to warrant yet another season, although, personally I think it has run its course – this season was uneven, at best.
Supernatural has as much length as they may wish to take it: there are numerous avenues open to pursue, should they wish. However, if they want to wrap it up this up-coming season, so be it.
I disagree that acquiring cast-offs, like Without A Trace, etc., is the way for the CW to go. It does, however, have some soul searching to do. If it wants to become a “player” on the network grid, falling back on old standbys and off-shoots isn’t going to garner a lot of interest and/or respect. It has to develop or find quality shows that will have more appeal than what its current management seems to be focused on – just like the shows it has already canceled long before their time !!! Yes, I agree, Dawn is not up to the challenge and the sooner the network realizes it, the better.

By: Annie

Annie — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:05:03 +0000

A lot of the media is reporting that it was down to either Body Politic or Life Unexpected (or whatever the hell it’s being called today) for the midseason spot, and they were still trying to decide as of Wednesday night which one it would be.

It might have been cost as a factor, too, but I think they just thought that the show about a teen girl and her real parents was more their brand than anything about 20-somethings and their careers in D.C.

I’m disappointed but at least now I don’t have to watch anything on The CW.

By: j

Thu, 21 May 2009 20:02:46 +0000

Gossip Girl’s first four episodes are probably the nadir of the show. It gives the impression that it’s mostly about catty bitches who hate each other while pretending to be friends, as well as about pretty people in relationships that are boring and completely lacking in chemistry.

That’s basically what the original book series was about. The show is so much more. Even critics agree; if you look at Metacritic, the jump in quality from that first episode to season two is reflected in a score in the 50′s going to a score in the 70′s – which is pretty high. 24, House, and Glee, among others, are in the 70′s for this season.

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By: AD

AD — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:52:06 +0000

Gossip Girl was a funny show for the first 4 episodes, then became something orrible but i can say that 90210 is even worst a show where you can detox from cocaine in 3 days

By: Alex

Alex — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:51:16 +0000

cdn its possible that CW had hoped that Body Politic would be different from what the pilot actually was or perhaps they weren’t happy with the future direction that was pitched to them. Its possible/probable that they wanted a show about twentysomethings, their lives and relationships that happened to be set within politics and the producers of the show intended to make a show about politics that happened to feature twentysomethings.

By: Holly

Holly — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:46:20 +0000

Anthony, That is definitely NOT what The CW wants to hear. They desperately want the teen girls and are trying to cater shows too them, not to adult men.

By: cdn

cdn — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:44:56 +0000

Disappointed about Body Politic. If the CW wasn’t prepared to give it a fair chance then why bother producing the pilot?

By: Anthony

Anthony — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:42:05 +0000

People need to stop bashing Gossip Girl if they don’t watch it. It’s an awesome show and some of the plots and jokes make me wonder why teenage girls would even like this show. I guess it shows that they tune out of this and into Secret Life. That show does suck and is definitely only for teenage girls.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:41:54 +0000

Reaper gone, Chris gone…

Yep, it’s official. I have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST in ANYTHING on the CW! Why not put Reaper on at 9 on Fridays?

By: jack67

jack67 — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:59:59 +0000

It’s good that this will be the final season of Supernatural because other shows are going to destroy its ratings.

By: God Particle

God Particle — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:36:32 +0000

“Young people doing something positive, trying to make a difference, while being sexy and fun at the same time.”

I have to say that is one of the most hilarious descriptions for a TV show I’ve heard in a long time. I haven’t seen the pilot so I can’t really say much about the show. I only watch one show on the CW and I’m not even remotely interested in whatever else they have to offer.

By: Alex

Alex — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:35:01 +0000

A few random points

1) I have no idea where the idea of The CW trying to kill of Supernatural is coming from. Firstly its still in exactly the same timeslot, do Supernatural fans have such little faith in the show that they believe its entirely propped up by Smallville? More to the point this is a show entering its fifth season, which its creator has said very publicly and numerous times will be its last.

2) The idea of airing a repeat after Smallville isn’t a bad one, I think the idea of airing an America’s Next Top Model repeat after Smallville is a bad one though. If I were them I’d be tempted to put a repeat of Vampire Diaries after Smallville, just to try and build up the audience for it a little more. Or alternatively repeat another new show after Smallville and try and build that audience. Putting something new behind Smallville would be ideal but if they don’t have the shows and/or the money they don’t have the shows/money.

3) I’m not sure why people are surprised that The CW didn’t pick up Body Politic, good show or not it never seemed like a good fit on the network and say whatever else you want about The CW they have created some sense of brand identity and all their new dramas absolutely fit that brand.

4) Something to mull over regarding the future of The CW, Supernatural is scheduled to end next year and Smallville is once again apparently having its final season so where does the network stand after those shows end? It seems to me that those shows seem to be the main investment on Warner Brothers end at least, are they going to want to stick around when both of them wrap? Is a proposed Justice League show (which Dawn probably has zero interest in) enough to keep WB around? And are CBS with all their money woes going to keep their investment going? I would think Supernatural and Smallville wrapping would be the biggest indicator that the network is on its last legs.