Comments on: Kyle XY Fans: ABC Family's Doing Just Fine Without You

By: moonwatcher79

moonwatcher79 — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:10:04 +0000

ABCfamily ratings going up this year doesn’t mean that they are fine without Kyle XY…They can do much better with it.

By the way Mr. Gorman, by saying that… you’re throwing our efforts against the wall. That’s not very nice of you. Most of us have jobs and lives to attend to and we dedicate a part of our precious time to get this show back. So the last thing we want to hear is that we are wasting our time…

Anyway, since ABC Family has decided to continue desrespecting us by all means necessary, we’ve decided to focus on geting SciFi network to pick up Kyle XY. At least, they know how to end their shows properly.

By: Jon L

Jon L — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:24:56 +0000

This article made me lol. The comments made me lmfao. Why are the most outspoken fanboys/girls always the least stable… It’s dead and done. None of it will change. Move on.

By: Lanie Grace

Lanie Grace — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:03:00 +0000

LMAO & ROFL

SEO or search engine optimization is my specialty so I know what I am talking about here.

All of you fanboys constant fighting here have made TVBTN the Google Authority on Kyle XY being cancelled

TVBTN ranks Page 1 Position 1 for the search term Kyle XY Cancelled

Out ranking the big boys like
TV.com
Zap2it
Scifi
Yahoo
IGN

and even ABCF !

Way to go

~Lanie~

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:39:46 +0000

Kaylie, indeed, let’s keep it going! Keep hope alive, keep hope alive!

Everyone needs a hobby!

By: Kaylie

Kaylie — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:03:45 +0000

Let’s keep this topic going. I just love reading the snobbish attitude of some of the people that post here trying to belittle the fans and always wanting to get in the last word. Quite humorous actually. We’ll continue doing what we can to try and keep Kyle XY alive, whether it be on television or not.

By: Lanie Grace

Lanie Grace — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:09:27 +0000

Lori
There was a real dishonesty and disrespect shown by ABCF

This is the thinking I don’t understand. The show is provided as entertainment and you pay how much to watch it? You have how much financial interest in this? You DVR it how many times?

If it was so apparent cancellation was last summer and I have indeed found many articles from highly respected blogs saying so as far back as October 2008, then why all the “Shock”.

KYLE XY was cancelled for the same reasons 99% of all shows are cancelled.

Low viewership and no profits

I know, it’s an insult, ABCF didn’t consult the fanatical fanbase. Go figure.

~Lanie~

By: Lori

Lori — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:42:10 +0000

It’s clear that some posters don’t get at all what happened with Kyle XY. This was not a case of a show on the bubble getting cancelled and now fans are in a twit. This show was likely “cancelled” last summer. They waited to officially do it once the third season started..I would assume due to contractual obligations and sponsorship. They did not promote the show at all and many fans did not know it was on. I smelled a rat last fall when there was still no info on when the third season was to start. Why promote a show you’ve already decided to cancel? Third season ratings are irrelevant because the network already decided to ditch it. Of course ratings would be lower and ABCF knew it. Everybody gets disappointed when the shows they like get cancelled, but this situation was different. There was a real dishonesty and disrespect shown by ABCF. Even some entertainment bloggers commented on it. I wished they hadn’t shown the third season at all since it ended on such a huge cliffhanger…I wouldn’t be half as mad. If you guys want to rationalize crappy behavior by network execs go ahead… but I won’t.

By: Richard Steven Hack

Richard Steven Hack — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:07:23 +0000

Any rabid bunch of people can win polls. Fans of Sharon Corr, the violinist of the Irish family rock group The Corrs, are voting dozens of times a day in the TwitterWall contests to make sure she wins every one she appears in – and I help.

Says nothing about making her new solo album number one when it comes out.

Ditto on fan campaigns to save shows. Ninety nine percent of the time they DO NOT WORK!

As they say, if you want to play the odds, you have to know the odds.

By: Kattie

Kattie — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:45:54 +0000

No chance?
People said their was no chance when we won that save the show poll…
We proved them wrong.

By: RJ

RJ — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:47:35 +0000

I understand where you Kyle XY fans are because I tried to help save ABC’s Pushing Daisies. The truth is, there is almost NO CHANCE of it getting renewed.

By: Lanie Grace

Lanie Grace — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:29:37 +0000

@Lauren Richards and Dan

I am not trying to disuade anyone from saving “their” show. More power to you. I hope you succeed. But don’t fault me for finding amusement in the spectacle you create in the process.

All “Fanboys” consider themselves the one true bunch of fans. I swear, I could literally just change Kyle XY to TSCC and the post would be inter-changeable in past post here and elsewhere.

The words of Josh Friedman, Executive Producer of TSCC in response to that shows Fanboys drive to Save TSCC is very applicable here also. He said and I quote “It is time to move on, let it go”

Not even devine intervention by Starbuck will bring Kyle XY back.

Kyle has been Terminated.

~Lanie~

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:46:31 +0000

I’m aghast at the elitist attitude of some of the posters in here who feel they have nothing better to do than try to dissuade fans of any show to try and get their favorite shows back. The past has shown us that there have been successful campaigns to bring back canceled programs, ie Jericho and Futurama. Did these pessimistic people also try and dampen their resolve? If they did then it failed. Fans of Kyle XY will continue to strive to bring back the show, with or without ABCF, preferably without seeing how their programming is no longer about family entertainment.

By: RJ

RJ — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:42:21 +0000

^Another reason ABC Family most likely cut it was because Lincoln Heights season three premiere pulled in 1.66 million viewers. Thats an INCREASE from its past episodes, and a record for the show. Thus ABC Family renewed it for a 4th and 5th season. You renew a series when it grows, and cancel a series when it falls. Easy as that!^

By: RJ

RJ — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:40:16 +0000

Look at the numbers! Kyle XY had 1.42 million viewers for the 2nd episode of season three (down from 1.5 million for season premiere; and down 33% from season 2 premiere). Thats with the lead in of The Secret Life! Usually when you have a larger lead in your suppose to INCREASE or at least hold 10%-15% of your season two premiere. Kyle XY was slipping, so ABC Family cut its loses as the production costs were probably rising with slipping ratings. Simple as that!

By: Anon

Anon — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:07:01 +0000

Haha not that I was a fan of Kyle X but I feel how you feel, Kyle fans. This website is like a website where they torture fans of canceled shows. (Ex: Daisies).

By: Holly

Holly — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:29:55 +0000

Yes, Kyle XY fans are “true fans” as opposed to the fans of dozens of other canceled shows who prove that they are “untrue fans” by…paying for sky-writing and billboards, sending loads of crap to networks to irritate the mail room workers, sending letters and postcards, making saveshowX websites, waxing poetic about their show on discussion websites (whether or not the site is dedicated to their show), writing livejournal and myspace posts about the deep, eternal significance of their show, starting online petitions, boycotting the network that dared to cancel their show, posting on every article and blog post remotely related to the evil network that dared to cancel their show and annoy the heck out of everyone else….you know, the basics

By: Lauren Richards

Lauren Richards — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:16:34 +0000

Lanie Grace: Everyone of them claim to boycott, everyone of them claim it was a stupid move and everyone them fade away a couple of months after the final episode has aired.

If everyone of them “fade away a couple of months after the final episode” then why are you spending all of your time commenting on this? Get a life! If we want to campaign, why the hell should you care? How does it affect you? If you want to think we’re wasting our time with this campaign, then that’s fine. But why waste your own time trying to stop us?

By: the ticklish pear

the ticklish pear — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:48:33 +0000

What a lot of people don’t get is that Kyle XY fans are True fans. We’ve made youtube videos, flyers, postcards, sending sour patch kids, paper mache and clay tubs, letters,forwarding e-mails, forum recruiting, facebook and myspace groups, posters, sending tea bags(and attempting to send bananas;)), made websites, etc, etc. Heck, we’re on the verge of being up there with Star Wars and Star Trek fans with our loyalty and dedication. Give us some credit and on the plus side, at least we don’t use our forces for evil (I’d be scared!).

By: kylexylover122

kylexylover122 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:46:58 +0000

I agree with Karen and Cometcobalt. First, what have we Kyle XY fans done for you to put that as the title of this article? Second, you dont know what the ratings WOULD be if Kyle XY was back, so you technickly cant say the cancelation didn’t have a NEGATIVE impact on the networks ratings. If we were given another season, or even a movie finale, or a few more episodes to conclude the series, we would atleast have something to do with ABCfamily. But, the fact that they obviously have no respect for the fans or the show, really doesn’t help.

By: Richard Steven Hack

Richard Steven Hack — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:31:26 +0000

Lanie: Good points. You know, I haven’t even re-watched any TSCC in the last few months since the show went away. I’ve been too busy downloading Burn Notice and True Blood.

And while I’m missing Summer Glau, Gabrielle Anwar has captivated my attention. She kicks ass almost as well, if not as gracefully, as Summer. LOL!

By: Lanie Grace

Lanie Grace — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:52:50 +0000

Almost all fanatic fans think their shows cancellation will lead to the “death” of the hosting network.

Everyone of them claim to boycott, everyone of them claim it was a stupid move and everyone them fade away a couple of months after the final episode has aired.

Heard any noise from The Robot Show lately or any of the shows cancelled last year???

Kyle XY and the corresponding fanboys will fade in the same manner and if they are lucky in about 15 years Kyle XY will appear on Nick at Night

~Lanie~

By: RJ

RJ — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:30:25 +0000

Kyle XY is gone, and will never be back. Just move on. Shows get cancelled. Its the circle of life on television. This is like Jericho and Moonlight fans “boycotting” CBS. Look at CBS, they went UP in viewership this year! CBS is just fine without them!

By: Jessica

Jessica — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:09:55 +0000

I recall a couple new shows ABC Family tried to shove down everyone’s throats after “Kyle XY” went off the air that crashed and burned miserably *cough cough* “Sophie” & “Roommates” *cough cough*. I heard that “10 Things I Hate About You” only debuted with 1.6 million viewers, when “Kyle XY” had 2.6 million viewers for its premiere on ABC Family in addition to the 5.2 million that tuned in when the pilot was on ABC. In all likelihood, the viewers will just go down for “10 Things” and none of the network’s other new shows look like anything to get too excited about. I think it was mean of you to rub the ratings in our faces, and I hope you’re wrong and “Kyle XY” gets the fourth season it deserves. “Kyle XY” was the only “family” show ABC Family produced. It was a high-quality series with gripping plots and a family that truly cared about each other. I miss it very much and hope that ABC Family will change its mind and renew it or allow another network to pick it up. Until “Kyle” is rescued, I will continue to boycott ABC Family.

By: Lanie Grace

Lanie Grace — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:57:04 +0000

@ILJR Quoting
My point is that they have been to Comic-Con before, but now they will not take part in it. That’s losing exposure and promotion. Lifetime was never a part of Comic-Con in the first place. So they aren’t losing anything. (Disney is actually representing).

Maybe in the same manner they determined they didn’t need Kyle XY, maybe the “San Diego Comic Con” is not that critical to the overall success. I seriously doubt if you took every single patron of the SDCC and polled them, more than a very few will be ABCF viewers.

Why splurge the money, I am sure that was the question that was answered by the non participation this year. If you haven’t noticed this is a down economy and expenses that are excess are being cut in many corporations.

This is more than likely why Kyle XY and ABCF participation in Comic Con were cut.

~Lanie~

By: Kay

Kay — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:42:33 +0000

What I don’t like, is that my viewership as well as my potential value as an “advertising target demographic” is discounted by all the networks and sites like this because I may not be in a certain age bracket. While a female, I’m over the 18-24 age bracket, so I suddenly don’t count to ABC Family. I guess they have a right to choose to whom they wish to offer their “product.” And I know Kyle XY’s ratings were down after having a year and a half off and little advertising when it aired finally earlier this year. But I’ve got money and the household to buy the products advertised on the tube, so don’t think I should be discounted as a valuable demographic because I’m over 24, or even when I get over 50.

By: ILJR

ILJR — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:41:49 +0000

“Maybe because they dont have those type of shows anymore? Thats like saying, why isnt Lifetime or Disney Channel at Comic-Con.”

My point is that they have been to Comic-Con before, but now they will not take part in it. That’s losing exposure and promotion. Lifetime was never a part of Comic-Con in the first place. So they aren’t losing anything. (Disney is actually representing).

By: RJ

RJ — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:14:07 +0000

“Another thing I’d like to point out – if ABC Family is doing just fine without us, then how come they are not representing at the San Diego Comic-Con this year?”

Maybe because they dont have those type of shows anymore? Thats like saying, why isnt Lifetime or Disney Channel at Comic-Con.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:43:38 +0000

Holly, that’s a good question that I have no answer for. Whether there is some way that information could come from Nielsen or through some sort of other polling capability it does seem like something that network programmers would find interesting.

By: Holly

Holly — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:37:53 +0000

@Bill (if you’re still reading this thread…)

I’ve seen variations on this claim:

Most Kyle XY fans tuned into ABC Family to watch Kyle XY and Kyle XY only.

on a lot of these “I hate network X because they canceled my show” posts. I know we don’t get information to prove or disprove this, but do the networks?

By: ILJR

ILJR — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:27:11 +0000

Most Kyle XY fans tuned into ABC Family to watch Kyle XY and Kyle XY only. After the show was over, most changed the channel. I didn’t even know the channel existed until I caught the Pilot of Kyle XY on ABC and heard the announcer say that the show aired on ABC Family. It was only then that I began watching their channel, and that was only to see Kyle XY. Therefore, the numbers provided do not support the argument. The claim is that ABC Family is doing just fine without the Kyle XY fans. However, Kyle XY did not air episodes in June 2008. The data from June 2008 was compared to that of June 2009, and the particular group of fans that the argument is being made against isn’t represented in either set of data. So how does this demonstrate that ABCF is doing just fine without us? Both sets of data are numbers “without you [the Kyle XY fans].”

Another thing I’d like to point out – if ABC Family is doing just fine without us, then how come they are not representing at the San Diego Comic-Con this year? Without Kyle XY they have nothing to take to the convention. Comic-Con is a big deal to entertainment and yet ABCF will not take part in it. That doesn’t sound like they’re doing “just fine” to me.

But all of this is beside the point. It’s not about the ABCF “burning in hell” and failing. The point is that Kyle XY and the Kyle XY fans put ABC Family on the map but the network just dumped the show and it’s fans. It wasn’t because of ratings, because if that were the case then Greek would have been canceled due to the fact that their ratings were lower than Kyle’s. If ABCF wanted higher ratings for Kyle XY, they could have achieved that with some promotion. However, they didn’t promote the show and thus it is evident that they wanted the show to tank to begin with. But it didn’t. It still pulled good numbers for a cable network, especially with no promotion. So the bottom line is that we’re upset that we did not get a proper ending for the show when we were always loyal to the network.

By: Holly

Holly — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:04:08 +0000

why would that particular network feel compelled to have someone write an article such as this?

Its actually good that ABCF is sending out these signals to us.

You know Bill, selling out is bad enough, but selling out to ABC Family? That’s just sad. At least tell me the deal is with Disney and they gave you some really cool swag or lots of $$$ in exchange.

By: asprin

asprin — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:37:05 +0000

If ABCF is doing fine without the Kyle XY fans, let them. Its actually good that ABCF is sending out these signals to us. We can at least focus our attention towards the other networks and stop hoping about ABCF picking up the show again. Once again, thank you for saving a lot of our time

By: Pere

Pere — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:36:45 +0000

“I like this show, therefore most of the people who watch shows on the network that airs it watch them because of it, and since the show got canceled, the network will lose most of it’s viewers.”

Kyle XY fans, your logic is flawless.

By: Karen

Karen — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:51:19 +0000

Or to put it another way:

Whatever ABC Family says doesn’t matter. ABC Family is the past and Kyle XY fans are looking towards the future………and another network.

By: RJ

RJ — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:06:26 +0000

Whatever is said doesnt matter. Kyle XY is the past, and ABC Family is looking towards the future.

By: Kaylie

Kaylie — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:04:29 +0000

I’m in agreement that I don’t care what fate befalls ABC Family. If their overall ratings increase then good for them but I’ve yet to see an original program of theirs that has received the ratings (over three years) that Kyle XY had. All I see are drops in ratings on all their new shows which then lead to cancellation. Kyle XY was different as I believe the writers’ strike affected its viewership, along with the long waits in between seasons. I’ve heard many people, both personally and online who thought Kyle XY was canceled midway through the second season because they just never heard about it afterward. Whose fault is that? The studio of course for a lack of promotion and because they had already begun a vendetta against the show to fit into their new sex-obsessed demographic. Even with all this against Kyle XY, it returned to over a million years, a testament that it had a loyal fan base waiting for it to return, a fan base always ready to continue to spotlight this show, much like it has been mentioned in this article. So thank you Mr. Gorman for rallying the troops and keeping Kyle XY in the public eye.

By: Lanie Grace

Lanie Grace — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:39:02 +0000

It seems to me that a large portion of the viewing audience totally does not understand the reason any show is made, simple really, to make money. Yes they make them entertaining to get you to watch and view the commercials, no other reason.

The best method to insure the survival of any show is to watch it live and but the products advertised. Anything less equals cancellation.

@Lauren Richards
I predict that your Kyle XY Season 4 will have a TSCC Season 3 lead in.

(I can hardly wait for someone to point out they are on different networks and TSCC S3 is a myth)

~Lanie~

By: Lauren Richards

Lauren Richards — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:43:32 +0000

Whatever. It’s not like your opinion really means anything to me. Plus, maybe people who haven’t heard much about the campaign or the show will read this and get interested. And I’m sure that most of the people who read this just thought, “Whoa, what’s this guy’s problem?”. I know that’s what I thought.

Have you ever even seen the show? If not, then I hope you’ll check out the fourth season after we save it.

Thanks for the laugh and for drawing attention to such a wonderful show.

Anyone who’s interested in helping us save our show, go to KyleXY.net or SaveKyleXY.com!

By: pillsburydo

pillsburydo — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:58:35 +0000

In the first place, ABC Family is only doing better w/o Kyle XY is because the network lacked the show’s advertisements. It is like the network did that intentionally. Therefore, no one knows about the show and then comes the cancellation of the show and probably most people wouldn’t know except for the fans. The show would be at great stakes if there was more promotion. I still believe that ABC Family would have higher ratings because a lot of the fans talk about the show on its own forum on ABC Family website. However, these days the network has been targeting teens mostly about sex. For example, watch an episode of Secret Life, any episode, and you can spot how many times the cast members said “sex”. I’m not bashing on the show, but it’s true that they implied the word “sex” in almost every episode. That is just promoting more about sex. Kyle XY, on the other hand, does not promote a lot of teen drama, which is why the show deserves more credit. If Kyle XY is more renown to the public, then maybe, possibly there would be more ratings for ABC Family than ever.

There shouldn’t be a comparison between June 2009 and June 2008 ratings. Kyle XY Season 2 ended in March of 2008, as well as Season 3, too, but in 2009. I believe fans wouldn’t be flaming at ABC Family anymore. Making threats and flames at ABC Family is very juvenile. We, Kyle XY fans know better not to sink that low. Instead, fans would retaliate back by writing sincere letters about the show to ABC Family. At the same time, this article was somewhat helpful, yet unnecessary. The fans wouldn’t need to know about this. All they want is their show to come back. I want it back, too. It’s just as simple as that.

By: Cometcobalt

Cometcobalt — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:27:54 +0000

Again the fact that ABC Family is obviously “doing fine” without Kyle XY fans just isn’t the point. We would have liked to have seen ABCF realize quickly that a good portion of their fans were unhappy and did something to correct that. But fans are really not what make a network the money it needs. Advertisers do and if indeed it was difficult to pin down what to sell to the Kyle XY fans (huge demographic) I guess I understand why they continue to ignore us. Numbers up or down still do not tell the story of what impact the boycott has had. The very fact that this article was written on the heels of another article that mentions Kyle XY FOUR MONTHS after the shows last airing tells me that indeed the boycott, the campaign, IS working. We ARE making an impact.

By: ABCF Defector

ABCF Defector — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:00:11 +0000

I know my patronage (or lack thereof) of ABCF makes little difference on the station’s ratings; still, I, for one, have determined to never support or watch ABCF in the future. And I can feel utterly satisfied knowing that they have lost at least one loyal viewer.

I do believe the popularity of Kyle XY drove much traffic to the station and, unfortunately, despite the network’s contempt for its loyal audience, many of those viewers may remain loyal.

The ratings may not yet reflect the loss of viewership due to Kyle XY fans upset over their treatment by the network but, hopefully, in time, viewership – and ratings – will drop as fans of other shows are treated much in the same despicable manner; dont’ worry, it will most certainly happen again.

Anyway, I began watching ABCF with Kyle XY, then expanded to watching other shows on the channel. Now, I have cancelled my season passes to all ABCF shows (for fear history will repeat itself – with television networks, it always does) and do not intend to tune in to the station ever again; not even to see what is scheduled.

By: Lanie Grace

Lanie Grace — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:52:43 +0000

Quote Sandyp
why would that particular network feel compelled to have someone write an article such as this?

I seriously do not think that any ABCF CEO or Director picked up the phone and “ordered” a pro ABC and/or Anti-Kyle XY post from TVBTN ROFL

Is it possible this is original thought on Bill Gorman’s part?

~Lanie~

By: Sandyp

Sandyp — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:45:45 +0000

The fact that Mr. Gorman would entitle this article as he did means that someone is taking note of our campaign to get Kyle back on the air.If ABC Family is doing as well as it proclaims, why would that particular network feel compelled to have someone write an article such as this? Perhaps, the writer is non partisan, but the fact that all of those “statistics” were included means to ensure what exactly?
Viewers of the network assuredly watch the programs on there because they enjoy them, and they already more then likely belong to the demographic pandered to by the Family.
Those of us who no longer watch because of loss of interest due to the Kyle cancelation don’t care about those statistics because they do not represent us.

Enough of the denial that there are people out here in the real world who do care that Kyle XY has been canceled and will continue to campaign for its reprisal on another network.To denigrate that effort is unfair.

By: Crystal

Crystal — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:44:19 +0000

Well I for one quit watching after KyleXY went off the air, didn’t even finish the last season actually. After the cancellation of Wildfire, plus being antagonized by the quick endings for Three Moons Over Milford and Falcon Beach, I decided enough was enough. Why get into these shows if they will just be canceled over and over again? I loved Greek, and I mean loved it, but it wasn’t enough to keep me watching a network that has zero respect for it’s audience. I would disagree that losing KyleXY didn’t hurt ABCfamily. They lost a lot of long term viewers. People like myself and many others who watched religiously for years and would have kept watching as our favorite shows ran their course. They may have grabbed a surge of viewers in the interim, but where will those viewers be in a year? ABC Family has put itself into the boat that most stations are in today. They have to spend their time looking for the latest fad, trying to boost ratings with stunts, trying to lure their core audience back and spinning the numbers when all else fails. I don’t know anyone who still watches, literally. One of my friends tried to keep going with Greek (she hates The Secret Life) but it just wasn’t eoungh to keep her tuning in to the channel. She’s the only one who kept on. So while it may appear that ABC Family is motoring along just fine, in the long run much like the CW, I believe they will suffer. Trying to base your core audience on surges in viewership is a fine idea on paper, but in practice it’s not sustainable because those viewers will inevitably go looking for their rush somewhere else. Why do the big nets still have so many viewers? Why does the CW and ABC Family pale in comparison when you look at the numbers? Simple. The big nets know that the loyalty of the viewer is what matters most. It’s why Jericho got a reprieve (although it turned out the execs were right, the show shouldn’t have gone on) and it’s why shows on the big nets tend to run so long. If your loyal to your viewers, they will be loyal to you. Make them think that they don’t matter, and they will move on. Just ask Dawn Ostroff.

By: UnknownFan

UnknownFan — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:36:54 +0000

In response to Miss Lanie Grace- I never seen anyone take trolling to an art form in the way you do sister. I cannot believe I am going to admit it, but I enjoy your bantering back and forth with people. The answer to your question is simple, there is no smart answer to why the ABCF ratings improved other than ABCF made the correct move by canceling K-XY. Nobody is going to admit it.

I love to hate the way you make those little facts so annoying.

By: Theoacme

Theoacme — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:52:53 +0000

…oh, God, we could have something on ABC Family to replace Kyle XY – a remake of “Grumpier Old Men”…

…but who in the TVBTN universe would be Jack Lemmon, and who would be Walter Matthau (Bill, Robert – paper-rock-scissors for first choice)…

…not to mention Ann-Margaret and Sophia Loren (Holly, Julia, your turn)…

…wait a minute – this would be way too good for ABC Family – NBC and ABC both could use this new show far more to replace Kings / Eli Stone

As for doing fine, it all depends on whether their costs went up more than their income or not – which we’ll never see (until we get a Nick quality mole into every cable network in America, or else if they had a better year than Exxon)

By: TomSD

TomSD — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:29:30 +0000

Did Greek ever got decent ratings? Because what they have now is pathetic.

By: Lori

Lori — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:07:11 +0000

ABCF is running movies like Harry Potter to make up the difference. What is probably in danger is their original programming.

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By: Kattie

Kattie — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:01:03 +0000

I don’t comment much to articles, but I would like to say that I fit ABC Family’s new demo. Yet I don’t watch them anymore. I was never into anything of there’s besides the occasionally tv movies. other than that Kyle XY was the only show I really watched on TV (oh and I watched T:TSCCS ). It had good morals and a great storyline, awesome actors and many twists. I just don’t agree with how they ended teh show that made their network on my list. None of their other shows ever seemed great. Evern though they were pushed down my throat at school (Channel One which we must watch had commericals for SL & 10 Things, the whole class pratically vommited). I will always love Kyle XY, and if it is ever picked up again, heck even by ABC Family, I would watch it. ABC Family is doing okay without Kyle XY, better? Nope, nobody at my school ever talks about their shows. In my view ABC Family went from promoting a show like Kyle CRAZY! To one promo in Janurary that is was going to be comming back.

-Kattie (a 15 year old, devoted Kyle XY fan)