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	<title>Comments on: Nielsen spins a future where online viewing will be counted in TV ratings</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*LOL*  This is hilarious!  Come on, people!  Think about what Nielsen would end up really monitoring?  Come on.  Give it a second.  Think about it.  *LOL*

For those of you who live in nunneries or monasteries, I&#039;ll help you out.  PORN!  Yes, PORN!  What Nielsen will find out is which of the free porn sites is the most popular.  Is it RedTube, Spankwire, YouPorn, XTube, or some other free porn site?  Anyone care to take bets?  Robert and Bill, care to set up a poll to see which we think will get the top rating nod?

Now seriously, because people watch most of their porn on their computers these days, how will Nielsen deal with that activity?  Would it report on it?  If it doesn&#039;t, how doesn&#039;t it?  Will there be just a generic category of &quot;adult entertainment&quot; that Nielsen doesn&#039;t break down any further?  Or will it be like a prude and just not include those numbers at all?

And then think of how many people would actually opt-in for Nielsen monitoring their online porn activity.  How would most handle it?  Only let Nielsen put the software on the computer they know they&#039;ll not be watching porn on?  Demand a opt-out switch/button for when they don&#039;t want Nielsen monitoring their internet activity (a.k.a. online porn activity)?  I wonder how many will volunteer without thinking this all the way through but then come late at night and they&#039;re wanting to watch that orgy video clip, they going, &quot;Oh shit!&quot; and then wondering how to turn off the damn Nielsen software.  *LOL*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*LOL*  This is hilarious!  Come on, people!  Think about what Nielsen would end up really monitoring?  Come on.  Give it a second.  Think about it.  *LOL*</p>
<p>For those of you who live in nunneries or monasteries, I&#8217;ll help you out.  PORN!  Yes, PORN!  What Nielsen will find out is which of the free porn sites is the most popular.  Is it RedTube, Spankwire, YouPorn, XTube, or some other free porn site?  Anyone care to take bets?  Robert and Bill, care to set up a poll to see which we think will get the top rating nod?</p>
<p>Now seriously, because people watch most of their porn on their computers these days, how will Nielsen deal with that activity?  Would it report on it?  If it doesn&#8217;t, how doesn&#8217;t it?  Will there be just a generic category of &#8220;adult entertainment&#8221; that Nielsen doesn&#8217;t break down any further?  Or will it be like a prude and just not include those numbers at all?</p>
<p>And then think of how many people would actually opt-in for Nielsen monitoring their online porn activity.  How would most handle it?  Only let Nielsen put the software on the computer they know they&#8217;ll not be watching porn on?  Demand a opt-out switch/button for when they don&#8217;t want Nielsen monitoring their internet activity (a.k.a. online porn activity)?  I wonder how many will volunteer without thinking this all the way through but then come late at night and they&#8217;re wanting to watch that orgy video clip, they going, &#8220;Oh shit!&#8221; and then wondering how to turn off the damn Nielsen software.  *LOL*</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donovan146 - Simply counting cable boxes doesn&#039;t tell you anything. 

It doesn&#039;t say how many people were actually watching a program: Was anyone actually in the room? Was the cable box simply left on while the TV was off? 

It doesn&#039;t tell you the demographic breakdown: That TV watching Spongebob, was it the parents or the kids watching?

It doesn&#039;t tell you time-delayed info (unless built into the box, of course - but the demographic questions apply there as well): If the cable box was on for the Tivo to pick up, when was the show watched? Was it at all, or simply deleted for space a couple weeks later? Did they fast forward through commercials?

It doesn&#039;t tell you what else was going on at the time: Were they typing away on Facebook or some computer game at the time?

All cable boxes tell you is that some number of households may have been receiving the signal at the time. That&#039;s it.

Obviously, the ideal polling system would be some sort of glasses/hat/circlet/etc., that everyone in the house needs to wear at all times, that sends a signal to the monitoring box only when it has Line-of-Sight (also needs to somehow store movement/position data such that you can determine (and remove) when someone just leaves the circlet on a table, etc.)

The logistics, technology, and morality of such a system are all lacking. So Nielsen is frankly better than what we have, including raw cable box counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donovan146 &#8211; Simply counting cable boxes doesn&#8217;t tell you anything. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t say how many people were actually watching a program: Was anyone actually in the room? Was the cable box simply left on while the TV was off? </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t tell you the demographic breakdown: That TV watching Spongebob, was it the parents or the kids watching?</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t tell you time-delayed info (unless built into the box, of course &#8211; but the demographic questions apply there as well): If the cable box was on for the Tivo to pick up, when was the show watched? Was it at all, or simply deleted for space a couple weeks later? Did they fast forward through commercials?</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t tell you what else was going on at the time: Were they typing away on Facebook or some computer game at the time?</p>
<p>All cable boxes tell you is that some number of households may have been receiving the signal at the time. That&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>Obviously, the ideal polling system would be some sort of glasses/hat/circlet/etc., that everyone in the house needs to wear at all times, that sends a signal to the monitoring box only when it has Line-of-Sight (also needs to somehow store movement/position data such that you can determine (and remove) when someone just leaves the circlet on a table, etc.)</p>
<p>The logistics, technology, and morality of such a system are all lacking. So Nielsen is frankly better than what we have, including raw cable box counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sabah, it goes without saying that any new counting method is sure to help shows *you* liked, but leave the counts for all others unchanged ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sabah, it goes without saying that any new counting method is sure to help shows *you* liked, but leave the counts for all others unchanged <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sabah, there&#039;s very little chance that this will actually do anything but look good in press releases. So don&#039;t get too upset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sabah, there&#8217;s very little chance that this will actually do anything but look good in press releases. So don&#8217;t get too upset.</p>
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		<title>By: sabah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sabah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>couldnt they have done this sooner like when prison break was still on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>couldnt they have done this sooner like when prison break was still on</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2012 apocolypse!  Mandatory tatooing for the survivors.  Nielsen problem solved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2012 apocolypse!  Mandatory tatooing for the survivors.  Nielsen problem solved!</p>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its the end of the world as we know it Its the end of the World as we know it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its the end of the world as we know it Its the end of the World as we know it</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry. Soon TVs will come equipped with bar code scanners and we&#039;ll just have to scan ourselves after the mass tattooing of 2015 happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry. Soon TVs will come equipped with bar code scanners and we&#8217;ll just have to scan ourselves after the mass tattooing of 2015 happens.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only a chip, but some sort of &quot;room sensor&quot; would be needed that can discern the demographics of the individual(s) watching.  We would essentially need a chip on each viewer that could be read by the sensor.  Not sure how many people would want to partipate in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only a chip, but some sort of &#8220;room sensor&#8221; would be needed that can discern the demographics of the individual(s) watching.  We would essentially need a chip on each viewer that could be read by the sensor.  Not sure how many people would want to partipate in that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Put a damn chip in people’s boxes&quot;

... and that&#039;s how the New World Order begins...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Put a damn chip in people’s boxes&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; and that&#8217;s how the New World Order begins&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan146</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donovan146</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nielsen has the worse and most ineffective ratings system ever. They can&#039;t even touch YouTube&#039;s ratings system. Put a damn chip in people&#039;s boxes you stupid ------!!!!</description>
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