Comments on: Dollhouse's Joss Whedon, "I Don't Make Hit Shows. I Make Shows That Stick Around." http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:52:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robert http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-121160 Robert Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:09:07 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-121160 Well they were hits for the WB yes but still they are hits still. Well they were hits for the WB yes but still they are hits still.

]]> By: Rick Holy http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120994 Rick Holy Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:32:15 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120994 BRING BACK FIREFLY!!! :) Sorry, I couldn't help myself. BRING BACK FIREFLY!!! :) Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.

]]> By: Entrevista rápida a Joss Whedon « Dollhouse http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120983 Entrevista rápida a Joss Whedon « Dollhouse Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:15:35 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120983 [...] Fonte. [...] [...] Fonte. [...]

]]> By: SleeperActiveCompass http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120957 SleeperActiveCompass Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:42:28 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120957 Robert, I think what Joss always means when he doesn't lump Buffy and Angel as hits, they were on the WB & CW so they were hits relative to those networks but in the greater scheme of the Big Four, his shows numbers wouldn't be considered good. Robert, I think what Joss always means when he doesn’t lump Buffy and Angel as hits, they were on the WB & CW so they were hits relative to those networks but in the greater scheme of the Big Four, his shows numbers wouldn’t be considered good.

]]> By: Robert http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120943 Robert Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:13:25 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120943 And i just realised What about Buffy and Angel? does he not consider these hit shows? And i just realised What about Buffy and Angel? does he not consider these hit shows?

]]> By: Robert http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120939 Robert Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:02:59 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120939 Look Epitah 1 was good but not a great episode. Yes it was a improvement on most of the horrible episodes he made but still not that good. Look Epitah 1 was good but not a great episode. Yes it was a improvement on most of the horrible episodes he made but still not that good.

]]> By: Boris http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120847 Boris Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:06:54 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120847 Audiovore says: "I hate the whole other Dollhouses thing. My suspension of disbelief can only go so far." We all gotta draw the line somewhere, man. Audiovore says:

“I hate the whole other Dollhouses thing. My suspension of disbelief can only go so far.”

We all gotta draw the line somewhere, man.

]]> By: Eric http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120836 Eric Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:24:18 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120836 "Plus it makes Topher even more ridiculous, when he was seemingly ‘the doll guy’ I could accept and like him. But with other houses and that he obviously isn’t the smartest when it comes to doll tech, he would have been fired ages ago." Actually, in Epitaph 1 we learn that he really is the smartest... without going into details, it's simply true. “Plus it makes Topher even more ridiculous, when he was seemingly ‘the doll guy’ I could accept and like him. But with other houses and that he obviously isn’t the smartest when it comes to doll tech, he would have been fired ages ago.”

Actually, in Epitaph 1 we learn that he really is the smartest… without going into details, it’s simply true.

]]> By: Dave C. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120834 Dave C. Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:06:44 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120834 Epitaph 1, for those who've seen it, was great, but it also lets us know what happens to each character and basically how they got to that point. I wonder how Whedon expects to tell compelling multi-episode arcs with that hanging over his head. Epitaph 1, for those who’ve seen it, was great, but it also lets us know what happens to each character and basically how they got to that point. I wonder how Whedon expects to tell compelling multi-episode arcs with that hanging over his head.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120707 Robert Seidman Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:41:46 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120707 Robert, no JBF sightings since August 26 (I just checked). If he/she doesn't reappear by next Saturday (when Dollhouse's season premiere ratings come out) I will be officially worried! Robert, no JBF sightings since August 26 (I just checked). If he/she doesn’t reappear by next Saturday (when Dollhouse’s season premiere ratings come out) I will be officially worried!

]]> By: Robert http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120693 Robert Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:13:49 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120693 Where the heck is Jossbiggestfan these days? I miss that guy or girl Where the heck is Jossbiggestfan these days? I miss that guy or girl

]]> By: buffywrestling http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120654 buffywrestling Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:05:39 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120654 lol thanks for that. I thought it was kinda funny, "Why is Bill trolling his own write-up?" :) lol thanks for that. I thought it was kinda funny, “Why is Bill trolling his own write-up?” :)

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120625 Bill Gorman Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:16:42 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120625 buffywrestling, it was Joss. I will edit for clarity. buffywrestling, it was Joss. I will edit for clarity.

]]> By: buffywrestling http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120622 buffywrestling Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:13:44 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120622 Is that you smirking or Joss? Hard to tell from the write up. Is that you smirking or Joss? Hard to tell from the write up.

]]> By: News from the FOX TCA Party, Emmys, Spoilers and more on Dollhouse http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120566 News from the FOX TCA Party, Emmys, Spoilers and more on Dollhouse Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:06:52 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120566 [...] » Dollhouse’s Joss Whedon: I don’t make hit shows, I make shows that stick around The Q&A that Joss did as a conference call with a number of the people from the press. See also Cinema Blend’s run down of the conference call. Just a question – they’ve got some brilliant guest stars due to appear in season 2 – Jamie Bamber, Alexis Denisof, Michael Hogan, Summer Glau and Ray Wise to name but a few. Let’s hope these brilliant actors don’t show up a certain leading lady. [...] [...] » Dollhouse’s Joss Whedon: I don’t make hit shows, I make shows that stick around The Q&A that Joss did as a conference call with a number of the people from the press. See also Cinema Blend’s run down of the conference call. Just a question – they’ve got some brilliant guest stars due to appear in season 2 – Jamie Bamber, Alexis Denisof, Michael Hogan, Summer Glau and Ray Wise to name but a few. Let’s hope these brilliant actors don’t show up a certain leading lady. [...]

]]> By: SLP http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120565 SLP Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:01:03 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120565 Fox has barely promoted this show. I don't think there was 1 mention of this show in the commercials the whole time I was watching SYTYCD during the summer and even last night. We get bombarded with the House, Bones, Glee, and Fringe (sometimes Lie to Me) but nothing for Dollhouse. Anyways this show lost me after episode 3 last season. No matter how much I loved Buffy, Angel, and Firefly, I don't think Eliza Dushku has the acting capablity to show the range of personas her lead role requires. I figure I'll just Netflix the DVDs for this show sometime in the future. Fox has barely promoted this show. I don’t think there was 1 mention of this show in the commercials the whole time I was watching SYTYCD during the summer and even last night. We get bombarded with the House, Bones, Glee, and Fringe (sometimes Lie to Me) but nothing for Dollhouse.

Anyways this show lost me after episode 3 last season. No matter how much I loved Buffy, Angel, and Firefly, I don’t think Eliza Dushku has the acting capablity to show the range of personas her lead role requires. I figure I’ll just Netflix the DVDs for this show sometime in the future.

]]> By: Audiovore http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120552 Audiovore Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:40:11 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120552 I hate the whole other Dollhouses thing. My suspension of disbelief can only go so far. Plus it makes Topher even more ridiculous, when he was seemingly 'the doll guy' I could accept and like him. But with other houses and that he obviously isn't the smartest when it comes to doll tech, he would have been fired ages ago. I will be amazed if it lasts past this season. They canceled Terminator, they will cancel this too. Fox just seems to love raping amazing sci-fi franchises. I hate the whole other Dollhouses thing. My suspension of disbelief can only go so far. Plus it makes Topher even more ridiculous, when he was seemingly ‘the doll guy’ I could accept and like him. But with other houses and that he obviously isn’t the smartest when it comes to doll tech, he would have been fired ages ago.

I will be amazed if it lasts past this season. They canceled Terminator, they will cancel this too. Fox just seems to love raping amazing sci-fi franchises.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120551 Bill Gorman Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:37:59 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120551 Cimmer, all, this was the first time I'd listened in on an "artist" conference call like this and I admit to finding 90% of it utterly boring, but that one answer was somewhat interesting. Unfortunately, by the time he said that it was too late to get into the question queue, because I wanted to ask "Hmm, since Fox really wants to air hit shows and makes almost all of their money on the broadcast advertising revenue from them, how exactly does that work with you not making hit shows?" ;) Cimmer, all, this was the first time I’d listened in on an “artist” conference call like this and I admit to finding 90% of it utterly boring, but that one answer was somewhat interesting. Unfortunately, by the time he said that it was too late to get into the question queue, because I wanted to ask “Hmm, since Fox really wants to air hit shows and makes almost all of their money on the broadcast advertising revenue from them, how exactly does that work with you not making hit shows?” ;)

]]> By: Cimmer http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120541 Cimmer Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:21:26 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120541 Am I the only one who gets the 'whistling in the graveyard' feeling to this interview? I don't make Hit Shows. I make shows that stick around." sounds like a decent epitaph for a show he doesn't think will stick around the full season. However, maybe it'll really take off this time around. Am I the only one who gets the ‘whistling in the graveyard’ feeling to this interview? I don’t make Hit Shows. I make shows that stick around.” sounds like a decent epitaph for a show he doesn’t think will stick around the full season. However, maybe it’ll really take off this time around.

]]> By: SleeperActiveCompass http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120540 SleeperActiveCompass Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:21:10 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120540 I'm bracing myself, as I usually do when Dollhouse is mentioned, for all the nasty things people will have to say about this, or should I say feel the need to take the time out of their day to have something negative to say about something they shouldn't worry about. Thank you for the article! I’m bracing myself, as I usually do when Dollhouse is mentioned, for all the nasty things people will have to say about this, or should I say feel the need to take the time out of their day to have something negative to say about something they shouldn’t worry about. Thank you for the article!

]]> By: Susan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120530 Susan Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:57:36 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120530 I really loved that sentence "I don't make Hit Shows .I make shows that stick around". I was a big Buffy fan . The show was part of my life during my High School years and later my college ones. Back then , I was not aware about the importance of TV ratings so I never worried about those. I remember the end of each season and getting excited when the New season started. It was a great experience.I still remember the last Buffy episode. Something sadly I cannot say right now , that you start a show and then suddenly is canceled leaving you with no closure at all. While the network cares absolutely nothing...Moonlight???...Jericho??? But well , you always learn something from bad experiences. That's why now I watch all my shows in cable. I really loved that sentence “I don’t make Hit Shows .I make shows that stick around”. I was a big Buffy fan . The show was part of my life during my High School years and later my college ones. Back then , I was not aware about the importance of TV ratings so I never worried about those. I remember the end of each season and getting excited when the New season started. It was a great experience.I still remember the last Buffy episode.
Something sadly I cannot say right now , that you start a show and then suddenly is canceled leaving you with no closure at all. While the network cares absolutely nothing…Moonlight???…Jericho???
But well , you always learn something from bad experiences. That’s why now I watch all my shows in cable.

]]> By: Bill http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/17/dollhouses-joss-whedon-i-dont-make-hit-shows-i-make-shows-that-stick-around/27502/comment-page-1/#comment-120529 Bill Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:50:49 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=27502#comment-120529 awesome. Cant wait! I hope this show sticks around for a good, long while! awesome. Cant wait! I hope this show sticks around for a good, long while!

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