Comments on: UPDATED Early Ratings Thursday: Leno Slips on Night 4, Community Strong, SNL, Parks Weak

By: Elliot Gainway

Elliot Gainway — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:50:56 +0000

rob says:
September 18, 2009 at 8:56 am
“I DVRed Community but didnt wanna watch it until I saw the ratings. Wow a 3.7 is really good.”

So you base what you are going to watch by what kind of ratings it gets???

By: genna

genna — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:44:21 +0000

Leno should bring back the desk or put a table in front of the chairs, like Ellen show. Seems he will never be a good interviewer. Still the funniest shows are The Daily Show & Colbert Report. NBC Should put them on Thursday’s at 8:00.

By: forg

forg — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:15:55 +0000

And Bones did really well 10.1 million viewers and a 3.0 demo is impressive. Fringe performed decent a 2.9 demo and 8 million viewers is okay but maybe when Grey’s Anatomy and CSI premieres they will tumble to 5 to 6 million viewers but if they can keep a good 18-49 demo, they could be safe

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:15:47 +0000

It will be interesting how CSI and The Mentalist perform against the two hour Grey’s Anatomy, I’m thinking Grey’s Anatomy will win with 18-20m and CSI will get 16-17m not sure about The Mentalist but it could go either way.

Vampire Diaries dropped but it will be interestig how it fares against FlashForward, if it can hold steady then a season order is a lock.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:15:09 +0000

ryan, we don’t have any viewership numbers yet.

And to continue to sound like a broken record, average viewership has almost no meaning for the success of a show.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:14:25 +0000

keanna, total viewership is meaningless, adult demo groups viewership are what matters. Adults 18-49 is a good indication of the advertising potential for a show.

By: kevin

kevin — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:10:47 +0000

NBC is back at #1!

For 1 week at least!

They must be delighted….

By: keanna montanna

keanna montanna — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:10:41 +0000

i really don’t understand those numbers..what do the networks consider? the demo or the total number of viewers? those numbers were really difficult to understand. i’ll take integration and differentation any day.

By: The_GodfatherSJP

The_GodfatherSJP — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:10:19 +0000

Isn’t that a bad sign for Fringe though? I mean, if it’s up against repeats outside of NBC and CW, and has to face CSI and Grey’s Anatomy, aren’t those numbers only going to drop further?

By: ryan

ryan — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:08:21 +0000

can someone break down the exactly million in viewers for VW and Supernatural? sorry if that sounds stupid

By: ryan

ryan — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:06:57 +0000

yea Grady i dont get it either, and i dont even see supernaturals viewership

By: chrisjozo

chrisjozo — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:06:24 +0000

It must be the Apocalypse because the CW is mentioning Supernatural in press releases.

By: Nattanop

Nattanop — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:04:57 +0000

To Grady
The CW said that “84% of Smallville viewers last year”

By: GEORGE 11

GEORGE 11 — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:04:53 +0000

thursday is the only night that work good for the cw!!!

By: ryan

ryan — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:04:32 +0000

i hope the vampire diaries stay about 4 milli

By: cool

cool — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:00:40 +0000

It seems ABC will have a trifecta next week, Survivor is pretty weak (a 3.5 for a Season Premiere?) and I can see Flashforward opening big and Grey’s will be 2 hours.

By: Jonathan B.

Jonathan B. — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:58:59 +0000

Why did NBC think that people would still care about Weekend Update in a non-election year? Such a stupid move, especially to preempt 30 Rock for it, which would almost certainly draw better numbers – not GREAT numbers, but better. And it would benefit more from the Emmys if they aired earlier.

Mediocre for The Jay Leno Show, though it does give a better idea of just how it’ll perform with typical NBC programming. Now to see how it does with actual competition….

By: Grady

Grady — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:57:05 +0000

I’m confused by the CW report. It says Vampire Diaries had 3.8 million viewers, yet retained 84% of its audience… It had 5 million viewers last week, so 84% of that would be 4.2 million. So much spin on these press releases…

By: forg

forg — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:56:49 +0000

Saw these ratings on Zap2it
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/09/tv-ratings-survivor-and-the-office-lead-premiere-heavy-thursday.html

Vampire Diaries lost a million viewers (3.8 million) but performance is still solid same for Supernatural (2.8 million).

Fringe premiered to 8 million viewers. In total viewers, The Mentalist beat Leno so I guess once the show starts airing new episodes it will easily beat Leno,

And Survivor debuted with 11.5 viewers, I think that’s their lowest season premiere. If FlashForward becomes a hit it could beat Survivor

By: rob

rob — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:56:11 +0000

I DVRed Community but didnt wanna watch it until I saw the ratings. Wow a 3.7 is really good.

By: The_GodfatherSJP

The_GodfatherSJP — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:52:26 +0000

Just to shift the focus a little bit:

Bones and Fringe premiered yesterday. Are these fast affiliate ratings any different from where they finished last season?

By: thirdsaint

thirdsaint — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:49:39 +0000

I DVR’d Community and watched it later last night. It was alright, funny at parts, but I’m not sold on it. I may tune in for a couple more weeks to see if it gets any better but I didn’t find the characters too believable. I don’t know what Chevy’s character is doing at all and the HS prom king/weird girl dropout thing was pretty lame. Seems like all the characters are based on stereotypes which can get predictable real fast.

By: William

William — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:48:22 +0000

One more thing. I figured SNL might slip, not the same as in an election. The was a very high bar to jump over this year.

By: William

William — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:46:53 +0000

Encouraging sign for Community and suprised how well The Office started. I think Leno will win tonight but I have a hunch the Friday Leno’s will always be low rated. Barring some guest or major music act. Anyone know if John Melendez is involved with the show?

Good numbers but again, wait until everyone jumps in. I wonder what they are thinking at black rock, the mouse’s office, and Ruppert’sj place?

By: Bruce

Bruce — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:46:30 +0000

I’ve decided I’m not watching ANY shows on NBC this season, which has the most liberal biased news (plus MSNBC) in the country. Not going to contribute to GE’s profits and its Obama butt-kissing. Boycott NBC!!!

By: BIG DADDY

BIG DADDY — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:46:09 +0000

It’s still week one….. it’s like the new restaurant that opens in town. The first month is curiousity

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:46:03 +0000

CW’s Fast Affiliate results have now been edited into the post.

By: MC

MC — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:45:08 +0000

8.5mil and a 2.7 for Leno? Not even through the first week and he’s down over 50% from the premiere. Looks like those predicting a “settled” amount of between 5-6mil and a 2 or under demo may not have been far off.

Nice opening demo #s for Community, I thought it was pretty good and will be tuning in again next week.

Parks and Rec is toast. It won’t make it past its 13 episode order this season.

By: Tom

Tom — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:44:02 +0000

I’m glad to see the “Jay reports” each day because I am really curious. That said I still think this entire week is academic at this point. Next week is when we’ll see the first indicators of how this “experiment” is going to work.

By: Chucksmom

Chucksmom — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:43:39 +0000

With the headline “slips” you make it sound like it recieved bad ratings. Those are still great ratings for the 10pm hour.

Sounds like Community did pretty well for being on at a odd time (9:30pm) Yeah for Joel & Jay!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:43:11 +0000

OH wow, “Community” did pretty well!

Kinda surprised how poorly SNL did…not TOO surprised about “Parks” though, that show is boringggg.

By: cool

cool — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:42:35 +0000

I love how NBC doesn’t want to use the word repeat….

CBS’s “Mentalist” encore and ABC’s “Private Practice” rebroadcast.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:42:00 +0000

Julia = Genius!

By: ryan

ryan — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:41:18 +0000

anyone know the CW’s ratings? im curious about The Vampire Diaries

By: Julia

Julia — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:39:17 +0000

Good for Community. Not so good for Parks. For NBC’s sake I hope that Community is able to hold up when it is moved to 8 so it can boost Parks.

And it looks like I’m a genius again. I said 2.8 for Leno on Thursday and if things go the way they have been, it should be 2.8 in the finals.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:34:56 +0000

NBC Fast affiliate results now have been edited into this post.

By: chuckie

chuckie — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:27:10 +0000

CHUCK, CHUCK, CHUCK. It’s all about CHUCK.
Everything should be about CHUCK.

Signed,

Annoying CHUCK Fan

By: Shea

Shea — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:25:20 +0000

I heard a lot of bad Word of mouth from Community…I thought the pilot was ok and will continue to give it a shot but it doesn’t look that promising. I hope I am wrong. I have loved nearly all of NBC’s thursday night comedies.

Office & Parks were great last night. Fringe was mindblowing. Fringe is the example of how you start an AMAZING second season.

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:24:28 +0000

Tar, in the early metered market ratings Vampire diaries slid 28% to a 2.1, while supernatural was steady with a 2.0

By: Chuck Tranberg

Chuck Tranberg — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:08:24 +0000

Hudson–I agree that is good for “Community”. Why? because it kept the audience that “The Office” had; where “30 Rock” often lost parts of that audience. But the real test will be how it does next week.

By: Chuck Tranberg

Chuck Tranberg — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:06:17 +0000

Anonymous–they would rather have non-stop talk about “Chuck” which is what I recall from last season.

By: Lester's Fan

Lester's Fan — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:05:42 +0000

Why talk about Leno? He’s on 5 nights a week, so there’s rating news about his show 5 times a week!

By: Hudson

Hudson — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:02:18 +0000

A 4.9/8 is good for a show like Community right? I hope so, I enjoyed it quite a bit.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:02:05 +0000

Whether you folks like it or not, TJLS *is* important and worth talking about – it’s a new TV experiment which could possibly affect primetime viewing as we know it.

You folks seem to be bitter that the show hasn’t flopped right out of the gate….sorry!

By: Chuck Tranberg

Chuck Tranberg — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:01:19 +0000

Actually it’s still pretty much a win for Leno, and maybe the most telling night of the week. Monday was big because of its much anticipated debut. Tuesday was still big with “Biggest Loser” as lead in. Wednesday was big with a lead in from “America’s Got Talent.” But now on Thursday we had the regular NBC prime time schedule. Season premieres of “The Office” and the premiere of “Community.” Leno was up 31% over the combination of “Office” and “Community.” Meanwhile NBC was up 35% for that date compared to a year ago. So far as NBC is concerned, I think they still have to be happy with Leno. Of course with the scripted series returning next week, it will be tougher, but if Leno continues with respectable numbers it will be big for the future of television.

By: HeroesforGhosts

HeroesforGhosts — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:01:11 +0000

Wow, that’s better numbers than I thought Community would get. Good for them.

By: Elyk

Elyk — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:59:45 +0000

Who cares at this point? Why keep telling us about Leno? Or do you have a man crush Robert?

By: ryan

ryan — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:57:15 +0000

i dont really care about JLS

By: Julia

Julia — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:54:35 +0000

Since NBC’s comedy lineup is usually stronger in the demos than viewers, it’ll be interesting to see if demo viewers tuned in or out for Leno.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:51:56 +0000

Wow, I *AM* surprised that Leno INCREASED from his lead-in….that’s kind of impressive. At the very least, it would likely give NBC a tiny bit of comfort that Jay isn’t totally dependent on his lead-in, and people will flip the channel to watch HIM.