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	<title>Comments on: Emmy Awards Ratings Slide As The Same Shows (“Nobody” Watches) Always Win</title>
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		<title>By: battles</title>
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		<dc:creator>battles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire process of nominating and selecting the winner needs to change.  Give up the practice that a nominee has to submit their name for consideration. A select group of members judges determine the winner. Let the members of the Academy select the nominee and determine the winner aka Oscars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire process of nominating and selecting the winner needs to change.  Give up the practice that a nominee has to submit their name for consideration. A select group of members judges determine the winner. Let the members of the Academy select the nominee and determine the winner aka Oscars.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Guy Named John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some Guy Named John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blame the decline on people&#039;s access to cable tv. its easier to get a bigger audience when you only have a few channels to pick from. as for FOX of the late 80&#039;s, I don&#039;t think they had the same market size as NBC, CBS, or ABC, it explains the lower numbers. But doesn&#039;t explain why it doesn&#039;t jump higher over ther subsequent years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame the decline on people&#8217;s access to cable tv. its easier to get a bigger audience when you only have a few channels to pick from. as for FOX of the late 80&#8242;s, I don&#8217;t think they had the same market size as NBC, CBS, or ABC, it explains the lower numbers. But doesn&#8217;t explain why it doesn&#8217;t jump higher over ther subsequent years.</p>
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		<title>By: D. B. Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. B. Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who wants to watch the same over-paid leftist bloviate and blow smoke up eachothers backside for however long they are on, it is the last days of warmth where I live before 7 months of bad weather sets in, last night me and my son spent the night beside the lake staring into a campfire, listening to the Giants over the radio, would have loved to watch the game but we do not have a local NBC affiliate and dish network does not carry local channels (or the YES network either). one of the prices to pay for living in the wild north country, but it is well worth it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who wants to watch the same over-paid leftist bloviate and blow smoke up eachothers backside for however long they are on, it is the last days of warmth where I live before 7 months of bad weather sets in, last night me and my son spent the night beside the lake staring into a campfire, listening to the Giants over the radio, would have loved to watch the game but we do not have a local NBC affiliate and dish network does not carry local channels (or the YES network either). one of the prices to pay for living in the wild north country, but it is well worth it</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like someone said earlier no one wants to watch because they keep giving the awards to shows nobody really watches. Or shows on cable that maybe get 2 million viewers. I mean the highest rated shows like CSI or Two and Half Men never seems to win. Back in the day the shows with the highest viewership use to win these awards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like someone said earlier no one wants to watch because they keep giving the awards to shows nobody really watches. Or shows on cable that maybe get 2 million viewers. I mean the highest rated shows like CSI or Two and Half Men never seems to win. Back in the day the shows with the highest viewership use to win these awards</p>
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		<title>By: Vetinari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vetinari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There used to be just 3 main networks and a few other little stations here and there as we all know. So giving awards out wasn&#039;t going to offend a lot of non-winners, just a few. There simply were not all that many shows compared to now. Despite the reported death of scripted TV, we&#039;re in an avalanche lately of scripted tv.

My point is that I think to keep up with the times they really need to add more categories and more ways for people to win as a way of giving more shows a slice of the pie. Perhaps a mystery category and a scifi/fantasy category. Add an ensemble acting category. And so on. That will decrease people feeling alienated I bet and make the awards seem more relevant to viewers.

If not that then separating cable from broadcast as the poster above suggested would be better than no change at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There used to be just 3 main networks and a few other little stations here and there as we all know. So giving awards out wasn&#8217;t going to offend a lot of non-winners, just a few. There simply were not all that many shows compared to now. Despite the reported death of scripted TV, we&#8217;re in an avalanche lately of scripted tv.</p>
<p>My point is that I think to keep up with the times they really need to add more categories and more ways for people to win as a way of giving more shows a slice of the pie. Perhaps a mystery category and a scifi/fantasy category. Add an ensemble acting category. And so on. That will decrease people feeling alienated I bet and make the awards seem more relevant to viewers.</p>
<p>If not that then separating cable from broadcast as the poster above suggested would be better than no change at all.</p>
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		<title>By: House Addict</title>
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		<dc:creator>House Addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should have different categories for network shows and cable shows. Cable shows have much more time to make less episodes, it isn&#039;t really fair. 
Plus the viewers don&#039;t really care about cable shows (who cares about Mad Men, Damages, Breaking Bad?) So if they saved the network category till last, the ratings might go up again. Also, skip the miniseries/movie part in the show, no one really cares about those either. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should have different categories for network shows and cable shows. Cable shows have much more time to make less episodes, it isn&#8217;t really fair.<br />
Plus the viewers don&#8217;t really care about cable shows (who cares about Mad Men, Damages, Breaking Bad?) So if they saved the network category till last, the ratings might go up again. Also, skip the miniseries/movie part in the show, no one really cares about those either. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Shem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to go off-topic here, but all the award shows are centralised on the gays. It gets annoying after a while. Neil P.H. might be doing a number or two (i think he&#039;s funny btw). Then Ellen is always hosting. 

And not to mention, HBO. Please? what quality? Nudity and profane language makes good TV?  Anyhow, that could be deemed as subjective. The Emmy people need to stop being so biased. (I love NBC)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to go off-topic here, but all the award shows are centralised on the gays. It gets annoying after a while. Neil P.H. might be doing a number or two (i think he&#8217;s funny btw). Then Ellen is always hosting. </p>
<p>And not to mention, HBO. Please? what quality? Nudity and profane language makes good TV?  Anyhow, that could be deemed as subjective. The Emmy people need to stop being so biased. (I love NBC)</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not only r the shows not familar, most of them get cancelled within 3 or 4 years. thats why viewership is down. 

AS FAR AS THIS YEARS SHOW, THERE UP AGAINST SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. GUESS WHO PLAYING. AMERICAS TEAM (DALLAS COWBOYS)AGAINST THE TEAM FROM THE NUMBER ONE TV MARKET IN THE NEW JERSEY....I MEAN NY GIANTS. SORRY!!! FOOTBALL: 17.1. THE EMMYS: 9.3.


P.S. HBO AND THE OTHER CABLE NEYWORKS HAVE NEW EPISODES OR SEASON PREMIRES OF THEIR SHOWS. GO LUCKY EMMYS!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not only r the shows not familar, most of them get cancelled within 3 or 4 years. thats why viewership is down. </p>
<p>AS FAR AS THIS YEARS SHOW, THERE UP AGAINST SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. GUESS WHO PLAYING. AMERICAS TEAM (DALLAS COWBOYS)AGAINST THE TEAM FROM THE NUMBER ONE TV MARKET IN THE NEW JERSEY&#8230;.I MEAN NY GIANTS. SORRY!!! FOOTBALL: 17.1. THE EMMYS: 9.3.</p>
<p>P.S. HBO AND THE OTHER CABLE NEYWORKS HAVE NEW EPISODES OR SEASON PREMIRES OF THEIR SHOWS. GO LUCKY EMMYS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that everyone is missing the 900lb gorilla in the room.  The Emmy&#039;s have become a political statement for the far left as much as about entertainment.  Just look at the winners every year the more political and left of center the better chance of winning.  many people see this and just tune out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that everyone is missing the 900lb gorilla in the room.  The Emmy&#8217;s have become a political statement for the far left as much as about entertainment.  Just look at the winners every year the more political and left of center the better chance of winning.  many people see this and just tune out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Amazing Race was not high quality to begin with. The only reason it won every time is that the Emmy voters see it as the cleanest reality show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Amazing Race was not high quality to begin with. The only reason it won every time is that the Emmy voters see it as the cleanest reality show.</p>
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		<title>By: mark wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and since we are judging their performance in viewers what would be more interesting is to compare the trend of those ratings to that of broadcast tv of that year.  And see if the declines are worse, or better then the decline of the viewing audience that seems to occur year after year on the networks. 

Just looking at it,  I would say less, for the most part with a few exceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and since we are judging their performance in viewers what would be more interesting is to compare the trend of those ratings to that of broadcast tv of that year.  And see if the declines are worse, or better then the decline of the viewing audience that seems to occur year after year on the networks. </p>
<p>Just looking at it,  I would say less, for the most part with a few exceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: mark wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and the ideas to limit how many times a network, a show, an artist, a performer can be nominated is stupid.  

I mean take the Amazing Race, its won its category every single time.  Now can you honestly argue that the show doesn&#039;t consistently keep high quality for that field?

If you have a great actor (and especially when they are in an equally great role) and they do put out consistently great work, why shouldn&#039;t they continue to get nominated?

If HBO keeps putting out great material (and it hasn&#039;t in the last few years) why shouldn&#039;t they get rewarded for their hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and the ideas to limit how many times a network, a show, an artist, a performer can be nominated is stupid.  </p>
<p>I mean take the Amazing Race, its won its category every single time.  Now can you honestly argue that the show doesn&#8217;t consistently keep high quality for that field?</p>
<p>If you have a great actor (and especially when they are in an equally great role) and they do put out consistently great work, why shouldn&#8217;t they continue to get nominated?</p>
<p>If HBO keeps putting out great material (and it hasn&#8217;t in the last few years) why shouldn&#8217;t they get rewarded for their hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how a side by side comparison of the Oscars&#039; and Emmy&#039;s recent audience slides would look, both in total numbers and % of year over year decline, but those are some sorry numberws for even just the past ten years for the latter. Awards shows in general, somewhat like beauty contests, just seem not to appeal to viewers under say 35 or 40 like they used to. I don&#039;t mean to state the obvious, but I leave it there because as with so much cultural phenomena there are scads of reasons and hard to find the most crucial. I have to say the Internet in general has got to have done a number on the traditional way of covering celebrities - we all know it has for the magazine industry. BTW, of all the pathetic pseudo-spectacles on TV, the Emmys were always the worst, and apologetic and sheepish about it to boot, which only rubs salt in the wound for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how a side by side comparison of the Oscars&#8217; and Emmy&#8217;s recent audience slides would look, both in total numbers and % of year over year decline, but those are some sorry numberws for even just the past ten years for the latter. Awards shows in general, somewhat like beauty contests, just seem not to appeal to viewers under say 35 or 40 like they used to. I don&#8217;t mean to state the obvious, but I leave it there because as with so much cultural phenomena there are scads of reasons and hard to find the most crucial. I have to say the Internet in general has got to have done a number on the traditional way of covering celebrities &#8211; we all know it has for the magazine industry. BTW, of all the pathetic pseudo-spectacles on TV, the Emmys were always the worst, and apologetic and sheepish about it to boot, which only rubs salt in the wound for them.</p>
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		<title>By: mark wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say that one of the serious flaws of the Emmy&#039;s is that tv tends to recognize actors or actress that have had a film career.

I also hate that the shows are based not a season&#039;s work but on a single episodes work.  Now I can certainly understand the writing and directing (and others of that nature) where different people are responsible for different episodes.  But an actor is typically playing that same person week after week and as such should be judged based on their full performance for that season.  Same for the show.

One of the other problems with this type of award show is that for the most part the voting members don&#039;t watch a ton of TV.  And as such they miss out on a ton of material (most of which is crap, but there are gems that never get noticed).  At least with critics they are actually paid to watch tv (and a wide variety at that) throughout the full season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say that one of the serious flaws of the Emmy&#8217;s is that tv tends to recognize actors or actress that have had a film career.</p>
<p>I also hate that the shows are based not a season&#8217;s work but on a single episodes work.  Now I can certainly understand the writing and directing (and others of that nature) where different people are responsible for different episodes.  But an actor is typically playing that same person week after week and as such should be judged based on their full performance for that season.  Same for the show.</p>
<p>One of the other problems with this type of award show is that for the most part the voting members don&#8217;t watch a ton of TV.  And as such they miss out on a ton of material (most of which is crap, but there are gems that never get noticed).  At least with critics they are actually paid to watch tv (and a wide variety at that) throughout the full season.</p>
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		<title>By: mark wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, and I hate to say this, but this isn&#039;t the people choice awards.  Thats an award show that recognizes not quality but viewer audience.  This and the Oscars are supposed to reward quality.

Just because a show is highly watched do you honestly think they are the best programs?  Because if you do then I seriously think your judgment is flawed.

Now I am not arguing that who gets nominate truly reflects the best on tv (not even close), but in general they are closer then just picking the 5 most successful shows in each of the respective categories.

I mean seriously people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, and I hate to say this, but this isn&#8217;t the people choice awards.  Thats an award show that recognizes not quality but viewer audience.  This and the Oscars are supposed to reward quality.</p>
<p>Just because a show is highly watched do you honestly think they are the best programs?  Because if you do then I seriously think your judgment is flawed.</p>
<p>Now I am not arguing that who gets nominate truly reflects the best on tv (not even close), but in general they are closer then just picking the 5 most successful shows in each of the respective categories.</p>
<p>I mean seriously people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least the Grammys are trying to be more entertaining.  Last year, there were 112 categories.  Exactly 12 were awarded during the telecast.  The other 100 were presented that afternoon.

There was a lot more room for musical performances.  The quality of the songs and the artists involved can be debated but there&#039;s little argument watching musicians perform is more interesting than watching them offer bad oratory.

Even the Academy Awards hold their science and technical awards on a separate night.  We know the Emmys tried to move a few of the most boring categories to a pre-telecast slot and members howled.  The problem is, since they agree to put their show on television, it&#039;s not for them anymore.  It&#039;s for the audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least the Grammys are trying to be more entertaining.  Last year, there were 112 categories.  Exactly 12 were awarded during the telecast.  The other 100 were presented that afternoon.</p>
<p>There was a lot more room for musical performances.  The quality of the songs and the artists involved can be debated but there&#8217;s little argument watching musicians perform is more interesting than watching them offer bad oratory.</p>
<p>Even the Academy Awards hold their science and technical awards on a separate night.  We know the Emmys tried to move a few of the most boring categories to a pre-telecast slot and members howled.  The problem is, since they agree to put their show on television, it&#8217;s not for them anymore.  It&#8217;s for the audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be all that excited about a 3 hour awards show ceremony, but Neil Patrick Harris is hosting. So I&#039;m betting it&#039;s gonna be great. Now it was just announced that John Hodgman will be an &quot;announcer&quot; which will be hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be all that excited about a 3 hour awards show ceremony, but Neil Patrick Harris is hosting. So I&#8217;m betting it&#8217;s gonna be great. Now it was just announced that John Hodgman will be an &#8220;announcer&#8221; which will be hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Zangadoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zangadoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. If the Emmy broadcast hopes to keep an audience, they need to do 2 things:

1.  Make the show a LOT more entertainment than awards ( comedy bits, clips, and music )

2.   Make a rule no one can get two Emmy in a row in the same category</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. If the Emmy broadcast hopes to keep an audience, they need to do 2 things:</p>
<p>1.  Make the show a LOT more entertainment than awards ( comedy bits, clips, and music )</p>
<p>2.   Make a rule no one can get two Emmy in a row in the same category</p>
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		<title>By: ljo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ljo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t watch the Emmy Awards (or the Academy Awards) for two reasons:

First they are just plain boring. I&#039;ve never found watching people I don&#039;t know thanking other people I don&#039;t know to be very entertaining.

Second, they are meaningless to me. I don&#039;t base the shows I watch on the awards they win or for which they are nominated. I don&#039;t let critics determine my viewing choices and I don&#039;t see why I should let some anonymous academy members determine them either. The only thing that matters to me is whether or not I am entertained by a program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t watch the Emmy Awards (or the Academy Awards) for two reasons:</p>
<p>First they are just plain boring. I&#8217;ve never found watching people I don&#8217;t know thanking other people I don&#8217;t know to be very entertaining.</p>
<p>Second, they are meaningless to me. I don&#8217;t base the shows I watch on the awards they win or for which they are nominated. I don&#8217;t let critics determine my viewing choices and I don&#8217;t see why I should let some anonymous academy members determine them either. The only thing that matters to me is whether or not I am entertained by a program.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emmy IS the most prestigious award in the TV biz.  Alot of people just want to know the winners and are not interested in the pomp and circumstance.  I&#039;m sure alot of former viewers now just go to the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emmy IS the most prestigious award in the TV biz.  Alot of people just want to know the winners and are not interested in the pomp and circumstance.  I&#8217;m sure alot of former viewers now just go to the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Zangadoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zangadoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like most Hollywood trade groups, the Emmy voters express their own personal tastes in excellence, not what the public prefers.  Unfortunately, each year they try to exhibit their snobbish choices to a general broad audience with an awards show...  and now the public just doesn&#039;t agree very often.  &quot;30 Rock&quot; is indeed funny, but its smug tone keeps it off most people&#039;s TIVOs.


Also, entertainment awards shows are inherently BORING.  Winners stand up to thank associates and colleagues that few watching could possibly care about.  There was a time long ago when those asides held fascination to a wide audience,  but today, with a mountain of media piled up in front of everyone, and with anyone being able to achieve national fame with one cheap video on You Tube, the glamour of being a TV star has eroded to the commonplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like most Hollywood trade groups, the Emmy voters express their own personal tastes in excellence, not what the public prefers.  Unfortunately, each year they try to exhibit their snobbish choices to a general broad audience with an awards show&#8230;  and now the public just doesn&#8217;t agree very often.  &#8220;30 Rock&#8221; is indeed funny, but its smug tone keeps it off most people&#8217;s TIVOs.</p>
<p>Also, entertainment awards shows are inherently BORING.  Winners stand up to thank associates and colleagues that few watching could possibly care about.  There was a time long ago when those asides held fascination to a wide audience,  but today, with a mountain of media piled up in front of everyone, and with anyone being able to achieve national fame with one cheap video on You Tube, the glamour of being a TV star has eroded to the commonplace.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeijames</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeijames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do we have comparable numbers for the grammys, american music awards, etc. which often reward the most popular?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do we have comparable numbers for the grammys, american music awards, etc. which often reward the most popular?</p>
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		<title>By: mikeijames</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeijames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could award shows feel the change in television viewing habits more harshly than other serials because one does not need to watch the shows in order to stay current with the results -- which get posted on the internet instantly even while one watches something else?

also, do we have numbers on how well the &quot;red carpet&quot; shows have done over the same period of time? one might argue that those many interested in the glamour and ceremony of the evening might tune into one of those shows instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could award shows feel the change in television viewing habits more harshly than other serials because one does not need to watch the shows in order to stay current with the results &#8212; which get posted on the internet instantly even while one watches something else?</p>
<p>also, do we have numbers on how well the &#8220;red carpet&#8221; shows have done over the same period of time? one might argue that those many interested in the glamour and ceremony of the evening might tune into one of those shows instead.</p>
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		<title>By: GMJH</title>
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		<dc:creator>GMJH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that most primetime network shows are junk. That&#039;s not the fault of the Emmy&#039;s. They&#039;ve got to go to HBO etc to find anything decent. If the Oscars were based on &#039;who watched it the most&#039; the awards would go to mindless drivel every year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that most primetime network shows are junk. That&#8217;s not the fault of the Emmy&#8217;s. They&#8217;ve got to go to HBO etc to find anything decent. If the Oscars were based on &#8216;who watched it the most&#8217; the awards would go to mindless drivel every year</p>
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		<title>By: Mandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think two things are at play here. 1) The internet. Instead of having to watch the long drawn out awards show, you can get the winners, who was wearing what and who said anything of note in about 10-15 minutes the next morning. No brainer really. 

2) At least for me, the Emmys are completely irrelevant. They should be searching for the cutting edge in excellent television, the innovators. Instead, it&#039;s a glorified industry popularity contest. Several shows that have ample popular and critical success have never got so much as a nod from the Emmys because the shows don&#039;t fit into a traditional box (BtVS, the Wire and BSG are the most glaring ones I can come up with right now). A poster earlier up suggested some sort of composite Emmy voter/critic/audience vote to get the nominations and I think that&#039;s an interesitng idea. It might expand the Emmy landscape and make the Emmys mean something again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think two things are at play here. 1) The internet. Instead of having to watch the long drawn out awards show, you can get the winners, who was wearing what and who said anything of note in about 10-15 minutes the next morning. No brainer really. </p>
<p>2) At least for me, the Emmys are completely irrelevant. They should be searching for the cutting edge in excellent television, the innovators. Instead, it&#8217;s a glorified industry popularity contest. Several shows that have ample popular and critical success have never got so much as a nod from the Emmys because the shows don&#8217;t fit into a traditional box (BtVS, the Wire and BSG are the most glaring ones I can come up with right now). A poster earlier up suggested some sort of composite Emmy voter/critic/audience vote to get the nominations and I think that&#8217;s an interesitng idea. It might expand the Emmy landscape and make the Emmys mean something again.</p>
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		<title>By: FDS Express-20/IX/09 &#124; Estás escuchando&#8230;Fuera de Series</title>
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		<dc:creator>FDS Express-20/IX/09 &#124; Estás escuchando&#8230;Fuera de Series</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] La noticia sobre el papel de NPH en los Emmys, aquí. Las dos exclusivas de Ausiello, aquí y aquí. La curiosa noticia sobre la evolución de las audiencias en Tv by The Numbers, aquí. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] La noticia sobre el papel de NPH en los Emmys, aquí. Las dos exclusivas de Ausiello, aquí y aquí. La curiosa noticia sobre la evolución de las audiencias en Tv by The Numbers, aquí. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vetinari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vetinari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and maybe the Emmys are “biased” towards HBO because they are about quality and not merely spin-off fever.&quot;

No they are biased towards HBO because the hbo logo is like the apple logo - it can make some think something okay is great. If most HBO shows aired on a broadcast network it&#039;s unlikely they&#039;d be so praised. True they&#039;d be shorn of most nudity and bad language but if they were really good that wouldn&#039;t matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and maybe the Emmys are “biased” towards HBO because they are about quality and not merely spin-off fever.&#8221;</p>
<p>No they are biased towards HBO because the hbo logo is like the apple logo &#8211; it can make some think something okay is great. If most HBO shows aired on a broadcast network it&#8217;s unlikely they&#8217;d be so praised. True they&#8217;d be shorn of most nudity and bad language but if they were really good that wouldn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: KHL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KHL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous, it&#039;s not that the Emmys are rigged, it&#039;s that Emmy voters have some sort of inferiority complex toward the Oscars, and will just vote for the biggest star slumming it on television.

And it sucks that they always nominate shows nobody&#039;s watching, but if they started nominating shows based on popularity, Jerry&#039;s right, it&#039;d just be another People&#039;s Choice Awards. And the People&#039;s Choice Awards suck even more than the Emmys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, it&#8217;s not that the Emmys are rigged, it&#8217;s that Emmy voters have some sort of inferiority complex toward the Oscars, and will just vote for the biggest star slumming it on television.</p>
<p>And it sucks that they always nominate shows nobody&#8217;s watching, but if they started nominating shows based on popularity, Jerry&#8217;s right, it&#8217;d just be another People&#8217;s Choice Awards. And the People&#8217;s Choice Awards suck even more than the Emmys.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey3rd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey3rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who here liked to sit through school award assemblies when they knew they or their close friends weren&#039;t up for anything? Now stretch that to 3 hours and do you really want to sit through it? 

And with today&#039;s internet, I can just click on the site and find out who has won. if they give a good speech, it&#039;ll pop up on youtube. 

and maybe the Emmys are &quot;biased&quot; towards HBO because they are about quality and not merely spin-off fever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who here liked to sit through school award assemblies when they knew they or their close friends weren&#8217;t up for anything? Now stretch that to 3 hours and do you really want to sit through it? </p>
<p>And with today&#8217;s internet, I can just click on the site and find out who has won. if they give a good speech, it&#8217;ll pop up on youtube. </p>
<p>and maybe the Emmys are &#8220;biased&#8221; towards HBO because they are about quality and not merely spin-off fever.</p>
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		<title>By: Vetinari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vetinari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I haven&#039;t paid attention to the emmys much in the last 10 years because they seem so heavily biased in favor of HBO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I haven&#8217;t paid attention to the emmys much in the last 10 years because they seem so heavily biased in favor of HBO.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forg, Stephen Moyer (vampahr Beeell) is presenting an award. That&#039;s the only reason I&#039;ll DVR the Emmys (and I like 30 Rock, but it&#039;s sort of a so-what-else-is-new situation with that show and the Emmys).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forg, Stephen Moyer (vampahr Beeell) is presenting an award. That&#8217;s the only reason I&#8217;ll DVR the Emmys (and I like 30 Rock, but it&#8217;s sort of a so-what-else-is-new situation with that show and the Emmys).</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One idea I&#039;ve had: once someone wins an acting award for one program, or one show wins drama or comedy, that person or award should be removed from contention. So, no repeat awards for the same roles or shows and continual fresh blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One idea I&#8217;ve had: once someone wins an acting award for one program, or one show wins drama or comedy, that person or award should be removed from contention. So, no repeat awards for the same roles or shows and continual fresh blood.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with the Emmys is not that are &quot;niche&quot; shows the ones which win. 

What puts me off is the fact that they seem rigged, I know that they are, but at least they should make it look like less obvious.

&#039;Till some years ago I used to watch the grammys. After 2-3 years I began to understand how all worked and the politics behind them. Yeah, the people winning them were good, but how many other good singers that year were there and more deserving? 

The same can be said for the Oscar and the emmys. It&#039;s more like &quot;look at who are the most powerful/respected people in the tv business&quot; rather than &quot;look at how good that show/actor is&quot;.

For example, I think Sally Field is a good actress. But the fact that she&#039;s nominated once again (after having already won an emmy for that role), it&#039;s a bit too much. 

It&#039;s not that last year she gave an outstanding performance in that role. Ok, she nailed that part, but how many other actresses did the same in their respective roles? But they don&#039;t get nominated.
Sally Field gets nominated because she is Sally Field. They did the same with some shows.

And after a while it became tiring and uninteresting.
There isn&#039;t the &quot;curiosity&quot; factor anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with the Emmys is not that are &#8220;niche&#8221; shows the ones which win. </p>
<p>What puts me off is the fact that they seem rigged, I know that they are, but at least they should make it look like less obvious.</p>
<p>&#8216;Till some years ago I used to watch the grammys. After 2-3 years I began to understand how all worked and the politics behind them. Yeah, the people winning them were good, but how many other good singers that year were there and more deserving? </p>
<p>The same can be said for the Oscar and the emmys. It&#8217;s more like &#8220;look at who are the most powerful/respected people in the tv business&#8221; rather than &#8220;look at how good that show/actor is&#8221;.</p>
<p>For example, I think Sally Field is a good actress. But the fact that she&#8217;s nominated once again (after having already won an emmy for that role), it&#8217;s a bit too much. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that last year she gave an outstanding performance in that role. Ok, she nailed that part, but how many other actresses did the same in their respective roles? But they don&#8217;t get nominated.<br />
Sally Field gets nominated because she is Sally Field. They did the same with some shows.</p>
<p>And after a while it became tiring and uninteresting.<br />
There isn&#8217;t the &#8220;curiosity&#8221; factor anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Dingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be watching football Sunday night.  I&#039;ll check the Internet for a list of Emmy winners and save three hours of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be watching football Sunday night.  I&#8217;ll check the Internet for a list of Emmy winners and save three hours of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: forg</title>
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		<dc:creator>forg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love 30 Rock but I&#039;m not really okay with the overflowing love the EMMYS are giving them like in the writing category 4/5 nominations are for 30 Rock (same goes for Mad Men for writing drama, I know those shows are well-written but 4/5 is a bit too much since there are a lot of well-written episodes from many shows. I guess to increase viewership the EMMYS should come up with production number/s that people would want to see. 

Or maybe they should ride the vampire bandwagon and do something that will pull the vampire-lovin fans to watch haha. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love 30 Rock but I&#8217;m not really okay with the overflowing love the EMMYS are giving them like in the writing category 4/5 nominations are for 30 Rock (same goes for Mad Men for writing drama, I know those shows are well-written but 4/5 is a bit too much since there are a lot of well-written episodes from many shows. I guess to increase viewership the EMMYS should come up with production number/s that people would want to see. </p>
<p>Or maybe they should ride the vampire bandwagon and do something that will pull the vampire-lovin fans to watch haha. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last People&#039;s Choice Awards show fell 2 million viewers short of the 12 million plus who viewed the last Emmys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last People&#8217;s Choice Awards show fell 2 million viewers short of the 12 million plus who viewed the last Emmys.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 05:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have the People&#039;s Choice Awards for low-IQ garbage like CBS Procedurals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have the People&#8217;s Choice Awards for low-IQ garbage like CBS Procedurals.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 05:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t take a Rocket Scientist to figure out why some actors win and others don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a Rocket Scientist to figure out why some actors win and others don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: RViewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>RViewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ratings are down because the shows that are nomminated are watched by a small numbers of the tv audience, that is as simple as that.It is true for the Oscars too. Nomminate movies that people have seen and like and they will watch the Oscars. Nomminated shows that the larger audience watch then the ratings for the Emmy will go up. 

As for the Emmy being about quality please...The Emmy is about making money, nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ratings are down because the shows that are nomminated are watched by a small numbers of the tv audience, that is as simple as that.It is true for the Oscars too. Nomminate movies that people have seen and like and they will watch the Oscars. Nomminated shows that the larger audience watch then the ratings for the Emmy will go up. </p>
<p>As for the Emmy being about quality please&#8230;The Emmy is about making money, nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the fact that The Wire never won an emmy and got very few nominations is proof to me how little anyone should trust them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the fact that The Wire never won an emmy and got very few nominations is proof to me how little anyone should trust them</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the whole people winning year after year especially in the acting catergories, Both James Spader and Jeremy Piven won countless times and while it may be great performances, I think newer or at least people who miss out the last time should be allowed to win and get nominated. 

I think the Emmys should curb shows and people winning more than once or twice for the same awards to avoid  repetition and as great as HBO is, I do think they dominate a bit too much and maybe it&#039;s time to cut back on how many nominations they get per year to give other networks a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the whole people winning year after year especially in the acting catergories, Both James Spader and Jeremy Piven won countless times and while it may be great performances, I think newer or at least people who miss out the last time should be allowed to win and get nominated. </p>
<p>I think the Emmys should curb shows and people winning more than once or twice for the same awards to avoid  repetition and as great as HBO is, I do think they dominate a bit too much and maybe it&#8217;s time to cut back on how many nominations they get per year to give other networks a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: bot d00d</title>
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		<dc:creator>bot d00d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that the sopranos won outstanding drama series onlt twice is damning enough. the emmy&#039;s are clearly irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that the sopranos won outstanding drama series onlt twice is damning enough. the emmy&#8217;s are clearly irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Izkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year when Bryan Cranston won for Best Actor in a leading role, I said to myself &quot;Who the hell is this guy anyway? The Emmys are a joke.&quot; And then i actually watched Breaking Bad and saw why he won. I guess when people see shows like Mad Men and 30 Rock winning instead of shows like House and Lost, they just get angry with the Emmys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year when Bryan Cranston won for Best Actor in a leading role, I said to myself &#8220;Who the hell is this guy anyway? The Emmys are a joke.&#8221; And then i actually watched Breaking Bad and saw why he won. I guess when people see shows like Mad Men and 30 Rock winning instead of shows like House and Lost, they just get angry with the Emmys.</p>
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		<title>By: stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest problem I&#039;m having with the emmys is that the repeat wins are now for comedy and drama.  

From 1994-98, Frasier won every year, but in that same time period a different show won for drama each year.  Then from 2000-2003 The West Wing took over the drama category and the best comedy changed each year, so at least audiences had a little surprise each year.  

This year, it seems pretty obvious that Mad Men and 30 Rock are going to win every category the can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem I&#8217;m having with the emmys is that the repeat wins are now for comedy and drama.  </p>
<p>From 1994-98, Frasier won every year, but in that same time period a different show won for drama each year.  Then from 2000-2003 The West Wing took over the drama category and the best comedy changed each year, so at least audiences had a little surprise each year.  </p>
<p>This year, it seems pretty obvious that Mad Men and 30 Rock are going to win every category the can.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally added some lists of repeat winners that I intended to be in the post from the beginning, but had to run out before adding this morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally added some lists of repeat winners that I intended to be in the post from the beginning, but had to run out before adding this morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Nightstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nightstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If IMDB is accurate, David Letterman hosted the Emmys on NBC (more than a bit of irony there ;-) ) in 1986, the last year the viewers topped 20+ million.  In 1987 it was Bruce Willis.  Draw your own conclusions ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If IMDB is accurate, David Letterman hosted the Emmys on NBC (more than a bit of irony there <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) in 1986, the last year the viewers topped 20+ million.  In 1987 it was Bruce Willis.  Draw your own conclusions <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cool</title>
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		<dc:creator>cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, The Bachelor is scripted too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, The Bachelor is scripted too <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About half of those top 20 deserve nominations in major categories</description>
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		<title>By: Mumbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mumbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, about the only thing most of those top 20 shows could be nominated for over the current nominees is &quot;Most Uninspired Show.&quot;

And the winner is The Mentalist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, about the only thing most of those top 20 shows could be nominated for over the current nominees is &#8220;Most Uninspired Show.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the winner is The Mentalist!</p>
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		<title>By: greennogo</title>
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		<dc:creator>greennogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judging from past Oscar broadcast ratings (if Wikipedia is to be trusted--a whole separate issue), the notion of comparative populism for an award nominated show or movie only seems to have a truly significant impact if the nominee in question is an absolute freak-of-nature outlier event--like Titanic.  And Titanic was uniquely obvious within it&#039;s context.  And the notion of a conventionally popular show, rightly or wrongly, getting nominated swings both ways.  The Emmy&#039;s have notoriously ignored not only things like TBBT in the past, but stuff like genre or cop shows (except Cagney and Lacey).  Yet I don&#039;t think a nomination for The Shield this year, or Buffy the Vampire Slayer ten years ago would really have made too much of a difference.  Just like a nom for Grey&#039;s Anatomy isn&#039;t likely to help pull the Emmy&#039;s over the 20 million mark this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging from past Oscar broadcast ratings (if Wikipedia is to be trusted&#8211;a whole separate issue), the notion of comparative populism for an award nominated show or movie only seems to have a truly significant impact if the nominee in question is an absolute freak-of-nature outlier event&#8211;like Titanic.  And Titanic was uniquely obvious within it&#8217;s context.  And the notion of a conventionally popular show, rightly or wrongly, getting nominated swings both ways.  The Emmy&#8217;s have notoriously ignored not only things like TBBT in the past, but stuff like genre or cop shows (except Cagney and Lacey).  Yet I don&#8217;t think a nomination for The Shield this year, or Buffy the Vampire Slayer ten years ago would really have made too much of a difference.  Just like a nom for Grey&#8217;s Anatomy isn&#8217;t likely to help pull the Emmy&#8217;s over the 20 million mark this year.</p>
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