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	<title>Comments on: TV Ratings Wednesday: Modern Family, Cougar Town Start Strong; ABC Challenges CBS</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia - But total viewers play a factor too. I think Eastwick and THe Forgotten will both drop and while Eastwick is liekly to be axed first, both will be gone by midseason. Castle, however I still think ABC may give this one a full year. I dont think ABC would have the same pattern as the fall of last year

10pm Monday series - axed
10pm Tuesday series - axed
10pm Wednesday series - axed
8-9pm Wednesday series - axed

I still think
Renewed: Flashforward, Modern Family, Cougar Town, Castle
Cancelled: Eastwick, Hank
50/50: The Middle, The Forgotten</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia &#8211; But total viewers play a factor too. I think Eastwick and THe Forgotten will both drop and while Eastwick is liekly to be axed first, both will be gone by midseason. Castle, however I still think ABC may give this one a full year. I dont think ABC would have the same pattern as the fall of last year</p>
<p>10pm Monday series &#8211; axed<br />
10pm Tuesday series &#8211; axed<br />
10pm Wednesday series &#8211; axed<br />
8-9pm Wednesday series &#8211; axed</p>
<p>I still think<br />
Renewed: Flashforward, Modern Family, Cougar Town, Castle<br />
Cancelled: Eastwick, Hank<br />
50/50: The Middle, The Forgotten</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doh - I didn&#039;t know( or forgot)the two ABC comedies will no longer have Dancing as a lead-in. But as some have already pointed out, MF and CT ( can I call it MFCT?) improved on the Dancing demos ... still may be an interesting Wed. after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doh &#8211; I didn&#8217;t know( or forgot)the two ABC comedies will no longer have Dancing as a lead-in. But as some have already pointed out, MF and CT ( can I call it MFCT?) improved on the Dancing demos &#8230; still may be an interesting Wed. after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, the only thing that matters in terms of renewal or cancellation is demo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, the only thing that matters in terms of renewal or cancellation is demo.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia - do you mean in the demos or in total viewers because in total

Castle - 9.43
The Forgotten - 9.53
Eastwick - 8.53

Castle and The Forgotten both have the Dancing benefits also. I still think Castle will get a full year and The Forgotten may or may not get additional episodes. But remember Eastwick&#039;s lead in will be Modern Family and Cougar Town, who will both probably get low numbers because of their bad lead in. ABC seems to have trouble with Wednesday 10pm series and like how Dirty Sexy MOney got screwed last year, Eastwick will probably get axed too. Most of the episodes will air though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia &#8211; do you mean in the demos or in total viewers because in total</p>
<p>Castle &#8211; 9.43<br />
The Forgotten &#8211; 9.53<br />
Eastwick &#8211; 8.53</p>
<p>Castle and The Forgotten both have the Dancing benefits also. I still think Castle will get a full year and The Forgotten may or may not get additional episodes. But remember Eastwick&#8217;s lead in will be Modern Family and Cougar Town, who will both probably get low numbers because of their bad lead in. ABC seems to have trouble with Wednesday 10pm series and like how Dirty Sexy MOney got screwed last year, Eastwick will probably get axed too. Most of the episodes will air though.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modern Family and Cougar Town did great in ratings. Those are some big demos for two comedy&#039;s series&#039; premieres. I mean it beat DWTS in the demos. Eastwick was a big surprise. A 3.0 in the demo. I thought it would be in the love 2s. Everything will probably go down next week. I&#039;m interested to see next Wednesday brings when ABC goes to their official full Wednesday wihout Dancing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern Family and Cougar Town did great in ratings. Those are some big demos for two comedy&#8217;s series&#8217; premieres. I mean it beat DWTS in the demos. Eastwick was a big surprise. A 3.0 in the demo. I thought it would be in the love 2s. Everything will probably go down next week. I&#8217;m interested to see next Wednesday brings when ABC goes to their official full Wednesday wihout Dancing.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, before the season started I thought Eastwick would be the first drama canceled. Right now, I can&#039;t say that because it did better than both Castle and The Forgotten. I think it&#039;ll fall hard, but I&#039;m not sure it will fall hard enough to be canceled before The Forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, before the season started I thought Eastwick would be the first drama canceled. Right now, I can&#8217;t say that because it did better than both Castle and The Forgotten. I think it&#8217;ll fall hard, but I&#8217;m not sure it will fall hard enough to be canceled before The Forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay - I think regularly Modern Family and Cougar Town will average much less do to a bad lead in (Hank &amp; The Middle) but should do ok on average. I expect SVU to do better but both SVU and MF/CT have OK lead ins. Eastwick will likely always drop in viewers.

I expect Eastwick to be the first ABC drama cancelled.
Hank to be the first ABC comedy cancelled.
Mercy to be eventually axed down the line, with all episodes airing.

I think every other Wednesday show is safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; I think regularly Modern Family and Cougar Town will average much less do to a bad lead in (Hank &amp; The Middle) but should do ok on average. I expect SVU to do better but both SVU and MF/CT have OK lead ins. Eastwick will likely always drop in viewers.</p>
<p>I expect Eastwick to be the first ABC drama cancelled.<br />
Hank to be the first ABC comedy cancelled.<br />
Mercy to be eventually axed down the line, with all episodes airing.</p>
<p>I think every other Wednesday show is safe.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronhotchner</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronhotchner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither Criminal Minds nor SVU are shows of all that overwhleming quality, I grant you that much, but seriously?

Have you watched Criminal Minds? It&#039;s one of the best written shows on TV which characters that have die-hard fan bases. What&#039;s even better about it is that unlike CSI or Grey&#039;s fans of one character don&#039;t hate the other characters. The team is cohesive and well-loved. It&#039;s the only show on the air that can boast that. I love every character on that show. They have really done a great job with Rossi as well, making him almost like a Father figure to Hotch at times. Rossi has carved out his niche</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither Criminal Minds nor SVU are shows of all that overwhleming quality, I grant you that much, but seriously?</p>
<p>Have you watched Criminal Minds? It&#8217;s one of the best written shows on TV which characters that have die-hard fan bases. What&#8217;s even better about it is that unlike CSI or Grey&#8217;s fans of one character don&#8217;t hate the other characters. The team is cohesive and well-loved. It&#8217;s the only show on the air that can boast that. I love every character on that show. They have really done a great job with Rossi as well, making him almost like a Father figure to Hotch at times. Rossi has carved out his niche</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I watched MF and Cougar Town with an open mind. After they were over, and I opted out of the Witches show after ten minutes, I remember thinking, both these new comedies will get only around 3.0 in the demo. Boy was I wrong. But I didn&#039;t see any justification for either show as critical AND popular successes. We&#039;ll see, but that was a big opening salvo by ABC. BTW, I cry no tears for Law and Order:SVU. I hope it stays in fourth all year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I watched MF and Cougar Town with an open mind. After they were over, and I opted out of the Witches show after ten minutes, I remember thinking, both these new comedies will get only around 3.0 in the demo. Boy was I wrong. But I didn&#8217;t see any justification for either show as critical AND popular successes. We&#8217;ll see, but that was a big opening salvo by ABC. BTW, I cry no tears for Law and Order:SVU. I hope it stays in fourth all year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ruudiss - Sundays belong to NBC, Thursdays seem more CBS/ABC. and Fridays are CBS easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ruudiss &#8211; Sundays belong to NBC, Thursdays seem more CBS/ABC. and Fridays are CBS easily.</p>
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		<title>By: ruudisss</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruudisss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, three nights in this season and three overnight winers:Fox, CBS, and ABC respectively! So thursday should belong to NBC but somehow I have doubts about that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, three nights in this season and three overnight winers:Fox, CBS, and ABC respectively! So thursday should belong to NBC but somehow I have doubts about that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AO - probably not a lot of people will stick around with out the dancing lead in. Look at last years wednesdays, Pushing Daisies and Dirty Sexy Money did the worst of the night whilePrivate Practice did a little better. I expect Hank and The Middle to do badly while Modern Family and Cougar Town would do better and Easwick to flop. As for Cougar Town, critics reviewing the series said the show did get better in its second episode, so its possible maybe the pilot wasnt good.


As for Easwick and Mercy, both shows didnt do that great, but dont expect either to be axed too soon. NBC is willing to wait with their new series, especially with a smaller schedule, and ABC usually waits til around November or December to decide about their shows fates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AO &#8211; probably not a lot of people will stick around with out the dancing lead in. Look at last years wednesdays, Pushing Daisies and Dirty Sexy Money did the worst of the night whilePrivate Practice did a little better. I expect Hank and The Middle to do badly while Modern Family and Cougar Town would do better and Easwick to flop. As for Cougar Town, critics reviewing the series said the show did get better in its second episode, so its possible maybe the pilot wasnt good.</p>
<p>As for Easwick and Mercy, both shows didnt do that great, but dont expect either to be axed too soon. NBC is willing to wait with their new series, especially with a smaller schedule, and ABC usually waits til around November or December to decide about their shows fates.</p>
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		<title>By: AprilFox</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert, I loved &quot;Mercy&quot; really enjoyed it. I&#039;m tired of &quot;Criminal Minds&quot; so I didn&#039;t watch it and loved &quot;Modern Family&quot; and &quot;Cougar Town&quot;. Since I&#039;m from Canada, I can watch CSI: NY at 7pm which I did which gives me a chance to see other shows I normally wouldn&#039;t watch. Kind of tired with &quot;So You Think You Can Dance&quot; since I just finished watching last month, I think it&#039;s too soon to start up again. Ditto with DWTS bored of it. &quot;Eastwick&quot; was a yawn for me a quick channel change corrected that problem. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert, I loved &#8220;Mercy&#8221; really enjoyed it. I&#8217;m tired of &#8220;Criminal Minds&#8221; so I didn&#8217;t watch it and loved &#8220;Modern Family&#8221; and &#8220;Cougar Town&#8221;. Since I&#8217;m from Canada, I can watch CSI: NY at 7pm which I did which gives me a chance to see other shows I normally wouldn&#8217;t watch. Kind of tired with &#8220;So You Think You Can Dance&#8221; since I just finished watching last month, I think it&#8217;s too soon to start up again. Ditto with DWTS bored of it. &#8220;Eastwick&#8221; was a yawn for me a quick channel change corrected that problem. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AO</title>
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		<dc:creator>AO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously quite a few people decided to sample ABC&#039;s new line-up.  The big question for me is how many of them will stick around, and for those who depart, will they go to one of the other Networks?  

Personally, I found Modern Family to be pretty good but conversely was amazed at how forced and unlikable Cougartown was.  My expectations weren&#039;t high, but it still managed to not meet them.  It looks like I am in the minority in that opinion though, so congratulations are in order to ABC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously quite a few people decided to sample ABC&#8217;s new line-up.  The big question for me is how many of them will stick around, and for those who depart, will they go to one of the other Networks?  </p>
<p>Personally, I found Modern Family to be pretty good but conversely was amazed at how forced and unlikable Cougartown was.  My expectations weren&#8217;t high, but it still managed to not meet them.  It looks like I am in the minority in that opinion though, so congratulations are in order to ABC.</p>
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		<title>By: ABCFanatic2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABCFanatic2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABC:
I&#039;m pretty impressed with Modern Family, I thought Cougar Town has more buzz and will get more viewers. I think Modern Family and Cougar Town will get a second season.

Eastwick&#039;s viewer count is pretty low compare to the series premiere of The Forgotten but it has higher demo.

NBC:
Mercy will probably will cancelled or not but its not going to be a hit. Law &amp; Order&#039;s numbers are pretty low especially it was NBC&#039;s top drama last season.

CBS:
CBS should give the ax to old Christine and gary unmarried. Criminal Minds is strong and CSI: Ny is a stronger show now than CSI: Miami

CW:
The Beautiful Life will be cancelled</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABC:<br />
I&#8217;m pretty impressed with Modern Family, I thought Cougar Town has more buzz and will get more viewers. I think Modern Family and Cougar Town will get a second season.</p>
<p>Eastwick&#8217;s viewer count is pretty low compare to the series premiere of The Forgotten but it has higher demo.</p>
<p>NBC:<br />
Mercy will probably will cancelled or not but its not going to be a hit. Law &amp; Order&#8217;s numbers are pretty low especially it was NBC&#8217;s top drama last season.</p>
<p>CBS:<br />
CBS should give the ax to old Christine and gary unmarried. Criminal Minds is strong and CSI: Ny is a stronger show now than CSI: Miami</p>
<p>CW:<br />
The Beautiful Life will be cancelled</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely HATE that NBC put The Jay Leno Show in prime time.  Who cares about a celebrity interview show.  I am disgusted that the network seems to be giving up by putting a boring talk show in a prime time slot.  No wonder NBC&#039;s lineup is suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely HATE that NBC put The Jay Leno Show in prime time.  Who cares about a celebrity interview show.  I am disgusted that the network seems to be giving up by putting a boring talk show in a prime time slot.  No wonder NBC&#8217;s lineup is suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modern Family is one of my new favorite shows.  Very funny.  Mercy was disappointing.  It has potential but a lot of it was wasted.  I&#039;m hoping some of that was just rushing through the set up.  I&#039;ll give it one more chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern Family is one of my new favorite shows.  Very funny.  Mercy was disappointing.  It has potential but a lot of it was wasted.  I&#8217;m hoping some of that was just rushing through the set up.  I&#8217;ll give it one more chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Eastwick&quot; lost viewers every 15 minutes. I don&#039;t know how that qualifies as &quot;good.&quot; Usually, it qualifies as a good sign of 13 and out. Especially since ABC is going to need the room for &quot;Lost.&quot; Personally, I didn&#039;t think it was all that bad (you know, for a chick show), but it mostly just got by on David Nutter&#039;s magic touch. &quot;Cougar Town,&quot; on the other hand, was gross and disgusting. (To the people who&#039;ve seen future episodes: does Courteney Cox yell all her lines in those as well?) The only actor in the thing who got a chuckle out of me was Brian Van Holt -- which is weird, because when I first saw him a decade ago, I didn&#039;t think he could act at all. He&#039;s certainly come a long way. I won&#039;t make any overnight declarations about &quot;Modern Family,&quot; as it was heavily-hyped and Lloyd and Levitan have had a number of shows open big and then sink like bricks. And finally, if NBC was expecting anything more out of &quot;SVU,&quot; they shouldn&#039;t have. They&#039;ve been DOA in that time period for a few years now, and Rome wasn&#039;t built in a day. It&#039;s a major improvement over &quot;Life.&quot; That&#039;s the main thing that matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eastwick&#8221; lost viewers every 15 minutes. I don&#8217;t know how that qualifies as &#8220;good.&#8221; Usually, it qualifies as a good sign of 13 and out. Especially since ABC is going to need the room for &#8220;Lost.&#8221; Personally, I didn&#8217;t think it was all that bad (you know, for a chick show), but it mostly just got by on David Nutter&#8217;s magic touch. &#8220;Cougar Town,&#8221; on the other hand, was gross and disgusting. (To the people who&#8217;ve seen future episodes: does Courteney Cox yell all her lines in those as well?) The only actor in the thing who got a chuckle out of me was Brian Van Holt &#8212; which is weird, because when I first saw him a decade ago, I didn&#8217;t think he could act at all. He&#8217;s certainly come a long way. I won&#8217;t make any overnight declarations about &#8220;Modern Family,&#8221; as it was heavily-hyped and Lloyd and Levitan have had a number of shows open big and then sink like bricks. And finally, if NBC was expecting anything more out of &#8220;SVU,&#8221; they shouldn&#8217;t have. They&#8217;ve been DOA in that time period for a few years now, and Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day. It&#8217;s a major improvement over &#8220;Life.&#8221; That&#8217;s the main thing that matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Back Off Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Back Off Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No not you!

FOX ROCKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No not you!</p>
<p>FOX ROCKS</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Dancing would give Modern Family and Cougar Town the boost, but It wont last. ABC desperately needs comedies, and both of these shows are great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Dancing would give Modern Family and Cougar Town the boost, but It wont last. ABC desperately needs comedies, and both of these shows are great.</p>
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		<title>By: tvmegafan</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-12/#comment-124436</link>
		<dc:creator>tvmegafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GLEE!!! was sooooo soooo soo so Good last night, very entertaining so hilarious, I&#039;m finally connecting with the characters, and gettin into the show, I still dont understand why everyone watches these cop and doctor shows so much, WHy they are all the same. At least glee is interesting and unique. I hope Glee keeps up with there amazingness!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GLEE!!! was sooooo soooo soo so Good last night, very entertaining so hilarious, I&#8217;m finally connecting with the characters, and gettin into the show, I still dont understand why everyone watches these cop and doctor shows so much, WHy they are all the same. At least glee is interesting and unique. I hope Glee keeps up with there amazingness!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt Castle will have trouble with Leno. It creamed Leno on Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt Castle will have trouble with Leno. It creamed Leno on Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Bgun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bgun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Wednesday preview thread I was the only one who thought that MF and CT would have 10 million viewers and I thought I was too optimistic...I just hope both shows retain most of their audiences. Love both shows last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Wednesday preview thread I was the only one who thought that MF and CT would have 10 million viewers and I thought I was too optimistic&#8230;I just hope both shows retain most of their audiences. Love both shows last night.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124431</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Mercy last night, I felt that it had a very good Grey&#039;s Anatomy feel (when Grey&#039;s was in the first and second season).  Glee was great as usual.  Modern Family and Cougar Town were amazingly funny, and I will continue to watch the comedy wednesday next week.  Eastwick was strange...I give it another shot next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Mercy last night, I felt that it had a very good Grey&#8217;s Anatomy feel (when Grey&#8217;s was in the first and second season).  Glee was great as usual.  Modern Family and Cougar Town were amazingly funny, and I will continue to watch the comedy wednesday next week.  Eastwick was strange&#8230;I give it another shot next week.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124421</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon, that&#039;s Hollywood Leno reality-denial nonsense from Berman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, that&#8217;s Hollywood Leno reality-denial nonsense from Berman.</p>
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		<title>By: pete5125</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124414</link>
		<dc:creator>pete5125</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree if the CW wants to have a chance Smallville needs to be moved to Tue night, pair it with 90210, ATM pair w/ Melrose Place...won&#039;t be great but it helps protect their losses, while Everbody Hates Chris/The Game didn&#039;t do awsome on Fri, they did do better than most of the CW&#039;s premier numbers, so I would do a TGIF type Fri...REBA did well for CW if they hadden&#039;t been peed off at FOX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree if the CW wants to have a chance Smallville needs to be moved to Tue night, pair it with 90210, ATM pair w/ Melrose Place&#8230;won&#8217;t be great but it helps protect their losses, while Everbody Hates Chris/The Game didn&#8217;t do awsome on Fri, they did do better than most of the CW&#8217;s premier numbers, so I would do a TGIF type Fri&#8230;REBA did well for CW if they hadden&#8217;t been peed off at FOX</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124411</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read this on Berman&#039;s blog:

&quot;Last at 10 p.m. was NBC’s The Jay Leno Show with 6.43 million viewers and a 2.0/ 5 among adults 18-49. Comparably, this was only about equal to year-ago failed occupant Lipstick Jungle (Viewers; 6.25 million; A18-49: 2.4/ 6 on Sept. 24, 2008). It’s official: NBC has a big problem on its hands!&quot;

How in the world does NBC have a &quot;big problem&quot; on their hands?  Wasn&#039;t the EXACT reason for introducing TJLS to get rid of expensive dramas that produced minimal ratings?  Based on that, it seems like NBC *SOLVED* their problems -- they&#039;re getting much cheaper programming, and the ratings aren&#039;t even that bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read this on Berman&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;Last at 10 p.m. was NBC’s The Jay Leno Show with 6.43 million viewers and a 2.0/ 5 among adults 18-49. Comparably, this was only about equal to year-ago failed occupant Lipstick Jungle (Viewers; 6.25 million; A18-49: 2.4/ 6 on Sept. 24, 2008). It’s official: NBC has a big problem on its hands!&#8221;</p>
<p>How in the world does NBC have a &#8220;big problem&#8221; on their hands?  Wasn&#8217;t the EXACT reason for introducing TJLS to get rid of expensive dramas that produced minimal ratings?  Based on that, it seems like NBC *SOLVED* their problems &#8212; they&#8217;re getting much cheaper programming, and the ratings aren&#8217;t even that bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Theoacme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theoacme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivy, I&#039;m not shocked about SVU&#039;s low demo ratings - the Leonards have taken over broadcasting, and are grinding our hands into the rock of Mount Rushmore, so we fall helplessly to our deaths - an eternity in hell watching 24/7 of &quot;Sponge Bob Square Pants&quot;, with Ray Jay Johnson playing Sponge Bob...

...ah, well, at least if you and I must die in a cesspool of Philip Vandamm-inspired trash, at least we get to be Cary Grant or Eva Marie Saint for a little while (sigh)...

...the irony, of course, is I want to emulate Cary Grant&#039;s character, who was an advertising executive, who would have worked to corrupt television with the fixiation on demos...

...speaking of demos, there was an 14.5 aggregate demo for the broadcast networks at 9, and an 11.6 at 8 - tough competition for SVU by any measure...

...and the other networks shouldn&#039;t be happy, as fully 85.5 percent of the demo audience did not watch any broadcast network at 9, and fully 88.4 percent did not watch any broadcast network at 8...

...what was the comparable figure - the aggregate demo ratings for broadcast networks ten years ago?

Ah, well, I guess I&#039;m off to the Mutton-o-Matic, which is all I am worth to TV and ad executives these days :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivy, I&#8217;m not shocked about SVU&#8217;s low demo ratings &#8211; the Leonards have taken over broadcasting, and are grinding our hands into the rock of Mount Rushmore, so we fall helplessly to our deaths &#8211; an eternity in hell watching 24/7 of &#8220;Sponge Bob Square Pants&#8221;, with Ray Jay Johnson playing Sponge Bob&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;ah, well, at least if you and I must die in a cesspool of Philip Vandamm-inspired trash, at least we get to be Cary Grant or Eva Marie Saint for a little while (sigh)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;the irony, of course, is I want to emulate Cary Grant&#8217;s character, who was an advertising executive, who would have worked to corrupt television with the fixiation on demos&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;speaking of demos, there was an 14.5 aggregate demo for the broadcast networks at 9, and an 11.6 at 8 &#8211; tough competition for SVU by any measure&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and the other networks shouldn&#8217;t be happy, as fully 85.5 percent of the demo audience did not watch any broadcast network at 9, and fully 88.4 percent did not watch any broadcast network at 8&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;what was the comparable figure &#8211; the aggregate demo ratings for broadcast networks ten years ago?</p>
<p>Ah, well, I guess I&#8217;m off to the Mutton-o-Matic, which is all I am worth to TV and ad executives these days <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: starmud</title>
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		<dc:creator>starmud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im surprised by eastwick, i really thought it would do worse. im still on the fence about the show, the beginning and ending were strong, midway through it seemed as though the show lost focus... it also forced the sex chatter a bit too hard, even for a 10pm drama.

cougar town tried a bit too hard as well. but overall the new abc Wednesday shows do show signs of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im surprised by eastwick, i really thought it would do worse. im still on the fence about the show, the beginning and ending were strong, midway through it seemed as though the show lost focus&#8230; it also forced the sex chatter a bit too hard, even for a 10pm drama.</p>
<p>cougar town tried a bit too hard as well. but overall the new abc Wednesday shows do show signs of life.</p>
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		<title>By: RW</title>
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		<dc:creator>RW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far, I can actually see Mercy growing into a hit, as oppose to the forgotten, Eastwick &amp; The Good Wife which may have each got a decent sampling with their premieres but I thoroughly expect to slide as the season progresses. Mercy is in a timeslot where it stands a chance to breakout, considering the varied (and somewhat weak) competition it faces. To me, the main question is can it grow enough by January when Idol in thrown into the mix ...

As for Leno, everyone expected it to take a hit this week but, all things considered, it&#039;s still holding up surprisingly well. Now, when the premieres are all out of the way and the ratings start settling, Leno might prove to be even more surprising. I can honestly see Leno challenging Castle &amp; the forgotten in the weeks to come for second place in the time slot. Wednesdays also could still be in play depending on how Eastwick holds up. And there&#039;s always a possibly Leno might make a dent in CBS repeat weeks. It all could prove to be very interesting especially if NBC books A-List stars deliberately on Leno those weeks.

No way to spin anything positive for SVU though. NBC is probably crossing their fingers that its old audience finds it over the next few weeks but I seriously doubt it will ever get back to a 3.5 demo again, sorry.

Hoping Modern Family holds up next week. Good show. And Bye Bye Beautiful Life. You beautiful days are so numbered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, I can actually see Mercy growing into a hit, as oppose to the forgotten, Eastwick &amp; The Good Wife which may have each got a decent sampling with their premieres but I thoroughly expect to slide as the season progresses. Mercy is in a timeslot where it stands a chance to breakout, considering the varied (and somewhat weak) competition it faces. To me, the main question is can it grow enough by January when Idol in thrown into the mix &#8230;</p>
<p>As for Leno, everyone expected it to take a hit this week but, all things considered, it&#8217;s still holding up surprisingly well. Now, when the premieres are all out of the way and the ratings start settling, Leno might prove to be even more surprising. I can honestly see Leno challenging Castle &amp; the forgotten in the weeks to come for second place in the time slot. Wednesdays also could still be in play depending on how Eastwick holds up. And there&#8217;s always a possibly Leno might make a dent in CBS repeat weeks. It all could prove to be very interesting especially if NBC books A-List stars deliberately on Leno those weeks.</p>
<p>No way to spin anything positive for SVU though. NBC is probably crossing their fingers that its old audience finds it over the next few weeks but I seriously doubt it will ever get back to a 3.5 demo again, sorry.</p>
<p>Hoping Modern Family holds up next week. Good show. And Bye Bye Beautiful Life. You beautiful days are so numbered.</p>
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		<title>By: Mmm</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124395</link>
		<dc:creator>Mmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great night for ABC and comedy, which is cool. Modern Family and Cougar Town were actually very entertaining, and I&#039;ll be watching again. I didn&#039;t watch Eastwick, but I&#039;ll look into it after the positive reception. 

I also laugh every time I see CW numbers lately. Almost every show they&#039;ve got is getting thrashed, which will hopefully signal the end for the network soon. VD is really the only one performing well so far, but we&#039;ll see how Smallville goes tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great night for ABC and comedy, which is cool. Modern Family and Cougar Town were actually very entertaining, and I&#8217;ll be watching again. I didn&#8217;t watch Eastwick, but I&#8217;ll look into it after the positive reception. </p>
<p>I also laugh every time I see CW numbers lately. Almost every show they&#8217;ve got is getting thrashed, which will hopefully signal the end for the network soon. VD is really the only one performing well so far, but we&#8217;ll see how Smallville goes tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul PT</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124392</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul PT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that next week abc don&#039;t have DWS at 8pm. one more week could do great things for this two comedies don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that next week abc don&#8217;t have DWS at 8pm. one more week could do great things for this two comedies don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: ljo</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124391</link>
		<dc:creator>ljo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will be one of the people who won&#039;t be tuning in to Mercy next week (but since I&#039;m not a Nielsen household it doesn&#039;t really matter). It had much more of a Grey&#039;s Anatomy feel to it than an ER one. Had it been the other way around I probably would have continued watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be one of the people who won&#8217;t be tuning in to Mercy next week (but since I&#8217;m not a Nielsen household it doesn&#8217;t really matter). It had much more of a Grey&#8217;s Anatomy feel to it than an ER one. Had it been the other way around I probably would have continued watching.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel L</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124390</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modern Family was so funny (i was kinda reminded of the office the whole time just because the whole documentary style) and cougar town was wasn&#039;t too great but it will probably get better
and SVUs ratings will get better when more people find out the new time
and isn&#039;t Mercy the first NBC show to premiere with more than 7 mil in about two years (excluding Leno)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern Family was so funny (i was kinda reminded of the office the whole time just because the whole documentary style) and cougar town was wasn&#8217;t too great but it will probably get better<br />
and SVUs ratings will get better when more people find out the new time<br />
and isn&#8217;t Mercy the first NBC show to premiere with more than 7 mil in about two years (excluding Leno)</p>
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		<title>By: forg</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124389</link>
		<dc:creator>forg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoping that Modern Family and Cougar Town will not drop hard next week. I&#039;m happy with their performance but Pushing Daisies (*sniff*) premiered to strong ratings too then you know the story. So let&#039;s see but the comedies though have more mass appeal than PD so they could pull it off. Hoping that Hank and The Middle will pull good amount of viewers next week. 

And Eastwick was not as bad as TV critics said. Its a decent show that has potential. Desperate Housewives meets Charmed set in Stars Hollow :D But I&#039;m lowering my expectations for its survival though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoping that Modern Family and Cougar Town will not drop hard next week. I&#8217;m happy with their performance but Pushing Daisies (*sniff*) premiered to strong ratings too then you know the story. So let&#8217;s see but the comedies though have more mass appeal than PD so they could pull it off. Hoping that Hank and The Middle will pull good amount of viewers next week. </p>
<p>And Eastwick was not as bad as TV critics said. Its a decent show that has potential. Desperate Housewives meets Charmed set in Stars Hollow <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  But I&#8217;m lowering my expectations for its survival though.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Chenoweth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Chenoweth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You state in the story, &quot;Ironically for the Leno doubters, he might be shaping up as a bright spot for NBC’s Fall, no others are currently in evidence.&quot;  But isn&#039;t this the real problem with some of the numbers for NBC&#039;s scripted shows?  The network is sacrificing its real bread and butter programs for Jay&#039;s show.  &quot;Law &amp; Order SVU&quot; has been a staple in the 10 p.m. slot for years on Tuesday nights.  Now, it is on Wednesdays at 9 p.m. against some real ratings competition in &quot;Criminal Minds.&quot;  Tuesdays at 10 p.m. is a vulnerable time slot and SVU&#039;s numbers could be better if it was still in its old time slot.  Maybe NBC is gearing away from scripted shows altogether and is more worried about profit than ratings.  However, if the Jay Leno show was not there, I think SVU and the traditional Law &amp; Order could see better ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You state in the story, &#8220;Ironically for the Leno doubters, he might be shaping up as a bright spot for NBC’s Fall, no others are currently in evidence.&#8221;  But isn&#8217;t this the real problem with some of the numbers for NBC&#8217;s scripted shows?  The network is sacrificing its real bread and butter programs for Jay&#8217;s show.  &#8220;Law &amp; Order SVU&#8221; has been a staple in the 10 p.m. slot for years on Tuesday nights.  Now, it is on Wednesdays at 9 p.m. against some real ratings competition in &#8220;Criminal Minds.&#8221;  Tuesdays at 10 p.m. is a vulnerable time slot and SVU&#8217;s numbers could be better if it was still in its old time slot.  Maybe NBC is gearing away from scripted shows altogether and is more worried about profit than ratings.  However, if the Jay Leno show was not there, I think SVU and the traditional Law &amp; Order could see better ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe R</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124377</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Unmarried and Old Christin should have been cancelled last year but they are going to get cancelled next year NCIS LA new spot is Wedensday at 8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Unmarried and Old Christin should have been cancelled last year but they are going to get cancelled next year NCIS LA new spot is Wedensday at 8</p>
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		<title>By: Lizardman</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124376</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly: We&#039;ll see.  I don&#039;t necessarily disagree with your assessment of AI but there have been a bunch of different shows following DWTS and the numbers over that last year for followup shows have been all over the place depending on the show and the time slot.  

As I stated before I don&#039;t think you can plan on building off a show like that.  In the case of last night it shows it was a different demo that watched the followup shows obviously.  The overall numbers went down but the 18-49 went up significantly.

The same has been true with Better Off Ted, Castle, and that other really bad comedy they put on as well.  There seems to be no carry over.  I don&#039;t think people who watch Castle watch DWTS.  

I didn&#039;t watch Modern Family, but Cougar Town will do fine over the whole year.  Just my opinion!

Thanks,

Jeffery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly: We&#8217;ll see.  I don&#8217;t necessarily disagree with your assessment of AI but there have been a bunch of different shows following DWTS and the numbers over that last year for followup shows have been all over the place depending on the show and the time slot.  </p>
<p>As I stated before I don&#8217;t think you can plan on building off a show like that.  In the case of last night it shows it was a different demo that watched the followup shows obviously.  The overall numbers went down but the 18-49 went up significantly.</p>
<p>The same has been true with Better Off Ted, Castle, and that other really bad comedy they put on as well.  There seems to be no carry over.  I don&#8217;t think people who watch Castle watch DWTS.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t watch Modern Family, but Cougar Town will do fine over the whole year.  Just my opinion!</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jeffery</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124372</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;For the people that think a reality show brings fans to scripted TV.... &lt;/i&gt;

So those huge boosts House, Lie to Me, and Fringe get when they follow AI are just coincidence?

The ABC comedies will drop next week but not because of Dancing. They&#039;ll drop because they were very heavily promoted premieres and at least some of the people who sampled them because of the hype will not come back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>For the people that think a reality show brings fans to scripted TV&#8230;. </i></p>
<p>So those huge boosts House, Lie to Me, and Fringe get when they follow AI are just coincidence?</p>
<p>The ABC comedies will drop next week but not because of Dancing. They&#8217;ll drop because they were very heavily promoted premieres and at least some of the people who sampled them because of the hype will not come back.</p>
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		<title>By: Lizardman</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124368</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the people that think a reality show brings fans to scripted TV, I have never watch any reality TV shows like Dancing with the Stars.  Yet I watch Castle and I watched Cougar Town last night.  I am sure I am not alone.  

Personally I don&#039;t think you&#039;re going to find that many people who do.  So I don&#039;t think the numbers for the ABC comedies was based on the lead in of DWTS.  So I expect their numbers next week to be the same or close.

Thanks,

Lizard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the people that think a reality show brings fans to scripted TV, I have never watch any reality TV shows like Dancing with the Stars.  Yet I watch Castle and I watched Cougar Town last night.  I am sure I am not alone.  </p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re going to find that many people who do.  So I don&#8217;t think the numbers for the ABC comedies was based on the lead in of DWTS.  So I expect their numbers next week to be the same or close.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Lizard</p>
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		<title>By: wondermann</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124361</link>
		<dc:creator>wondermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn Ostroff should be fired for her grade schools decisions and a huge lack diversity on CW.

It&#039;s odd to get rid of every show featuring more than 2 people of color. 

In fact, they discuss her foolishness in USC cinema classes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn Ostroff should be fired for her grade schools decisions and a huge lack diversity on CW.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s odd to get rid of every show featuring more than 2 people of color. </p>
<p>In fact, they discuss her foolishness in USC cinema classes</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-11/#comment-124344</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! I honestly was expecting Modern Family and Cougartown to tank...badly. Even though they were both good, they were the last shows this fall I was banking on doing well. Nice to see that they&#039;ve finally got some winning comedies on their hands. Although Flashforward is very different from these 2, I think the awesome ratings of Modern Family and Cougartown seem like a sign of good ratings to come tonight for Flashforward. If these new shows can do it, I&#039;m sure another much buzzed about show like Flashforward can do well too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! I honestly was expecting Modern Family and Cougartown to tank&#8230;badly. Even though they were both good, they were the last shows this fall I was banking on doing well. Nice to see that they&#8217;ve finally got some winning comedies on their hands. Although Flashforward is very different from these 2, I think the awesome ratings of Modern Family and Cougartown seem like a sign of good ratings to come tonight for Flashforward. If these new shows can do it, I&#8217;m sure another much buzzed about show like Flashforward can do well too.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modern Family and Cougar Town were hysterical! Even stayed tuned to Eastwick and it was really good. I was scared how these shows would do in ratings but im soo glad they did well!!

For those comparing Samantha Who with Modern Family and Cougar Town, these 2 new shows did air after DWTS but DWTS only had 3.2 demo and 15 million viewers. The demo at the 9 o&#039;clock hour increased to 4.3 and remained the same at both half hours which is very good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern Family and Cougar Town were hysterical! Even stayed tuned to Eastwick and it was really good. I was scared how these shows would do in ratings but im soo glad they did well!!</p>
<p>For those comparing Samantha Who with Modern Family and Cougar Town, these 2 new shows did air after DWTS but DWTS only had 3.2 demo and 15 million viewers. The demo at the 9 o&#8217;clock hour increased to 4.3 and remained the same at both half hours which is very good!</p>
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		<title>By: Shem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ryan, Smallville and many other CW shows have jumped the shark. Smallville needs to end decently- its one my best shows!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ryan, Smallville and many other CW shows have jumped the shark. Smallville needs to end decently- its one my best shows!</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-10/#comment-124328</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saw both modern family and cougar town last night. modern family looks ok but they need to improve it in order to have a sustained run. i&#039;m optimistic b/c of its potential. as for cougar town-it&#039;s a hit! very funny pilot last night. i think ABC has struck gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saw both modern family and cougar town last night. modern family looks ok but they need to improve it in order to have a sustained run. i&#8217;m optimistic b/c of its potential. as for cougar town-it&#8217;s a hit! very funny pilot last night. i think ABC has struck gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-10/#comment-124324</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back Off Fox, you&#039;re not implying that I (who wrote the post) am down on Fox&#039;s results? I think they did just fine last night, and for the season as a whole they&#039;re off to a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back Off Fox, you&#8217;re not implying that I (who wrote the post) am down on Fox&#8217;s results? I think they did just fine last night, and for the season as a whole they&#8217;re off to a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/09/24/tv-ratings-wednesday-cattle/28218/comment-page-10/#comment-124323</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wilma, I completely understand why people in the industry hate the Leno move. It threatens jobs, and invades the 10pm broadcast hour reserved in the past for the edgier dramas, but you may be a bit too close to the forest to see the trees.

Leno did better his first week at 10pm than NBC&#039;s 10pm shows did during their premieres last fall. How exactly did that lower NBC promotional chances?

They don&#039;t need reruns if Leno has new shows 46 weeks a year.

NBC doesn&#039;t get DVD revenue or syndication revenue from shows they don&#039;t produce.

The one thing I do agree on is the unknown potential effect on the Tonight Show. Jury is still out on that.

Those existing shows would have tanked with or without Leno at 10pm. How can it possibly be his fault?

As for the show sucking, I won&#039;t watch it, but I don&#039;t watch Conan, Letterman nor did I watch Leno at 11:30, so what?

As for the dig on our site, whoa there, don&#039;t shoot the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wilma, I completely understand why people in the industry hate the Leno move. It threatens jobs, and invades the 10pm broadcast hour reserved in the past for the edgier dramas, but you may be a bit too close to the forest to see the trees.</p>
<p>Leno did better his first week at 10pm than NBC&#8217;s 10pm shows did during their premieres last fall. How exactly did that lower NBC promotional chances?</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t need reruns if Leno has new shows 46 weeks a year.</p>
<p>NBC doesn&#8217;t get DVD revenue or syndication revenue from shows they don&#8217;t produce.</p>
<p>The one thing I do agree on is the unknown potential effect on the Tonight Show. Jury is still out on that.</p>
<p>Those existing shows would have tanked with or without Leno at 10pm. How can it possibly be his fault?</p>
<p>As for the show sucking, I won&#8217;t watch it, but I don&#8217;t watch Conan, Letterman nor did I watch Leno at 11:30, so what?</p>
<p>As for the dig on our site, whoa there, don&#8217;t shoot the messenger.</p>
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		<title>By: I expected it to be CM vs SVU &#171; maryignatius.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>I expected it to be CM vs SVU &#171; maryignatius.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 24, 2009 at 6:23 pm  Instead, they were both overtaken by  a pair of new comedies on ABC.  Here&#8217;s where you can read some actual [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I meant to say TRAUMA. I am dumb.</description>
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		<title>By: wilma dornig</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilma dornig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gorman, why do you refuse to acknowledge the Leno effect?   There is a growing mountain of evidence!  Do you not understand that most TV promos are on-network?   Do you not understand how shows feed each other?  If Leno stays at a 2 in the demo (he won&#039;t), then 50% less people will be exposed to NBC&#039;s ads for its other shows.   You can&#039;t not judge Leno&#039;s success by his ratings.

No reruns
No DVDs
No syndication
Cannibalizing Tonight Show
All returning shows down, most by 30% plus

And not only that, the show actually SUCKS

If it keeps up, I promise you Leno will not stay on 5 nights a week.  I actually work in the industry.  (I don&#039;t count TV bloggers as &#039;the industry)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gorman, why do you refuse to acknowledge the Leno effect?   There is a growing mountain of evidence!  Do you not understand that most TV promos are on-network?   Do you not understand how shows feed each other?  If Leno stays at a 2 in the demo (he won&#8217;t), then 50% less people will be exposed to NBC&#8217;s ads for its other shows.   You can&#8217;t not judge Leno&#8217;s success by his ratings.</p>
<p>No reruns<br />
No DVDs<br />
No syndication<br />
Cannibalizing Tonight Show<br />
All returning shows down, most by 30% plus</p>
<p>And not only that, the show actually SUCKS</p>
<p>If it keeps up, I promise you Leno will not stay on 5 nights a week.  I actually work in the industry.  (I don&#8217;t count TV bloggers as &#8216;the industry)</p>
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