Comments on: Updated TV Ratings: Sunday Night Football Wins; Cleveland Show Large; Housewives Down

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:19:29 +0000

ABC would never move, Desperate Housewives. It along with Grey’s Anatomy will stay in their respective slots, likely until both series are done.

And CW did horrible on sundays. Every year their sunday line up would go down further and further. Now they gave the night back to their affiliates, like saturday.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:18:13 +0000

I hope B&S survives for a fifth season

By: Sam

Sam — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:35:20 +0000

Desperate Housewives has always held ABC’s Sunday schedule together. To move the show would be the most ridiculous move for both the network and the show. It’s ratings might be down, bu ABC has publicly stated that they want the show through it’s 9th Season, so it’s going nowhere. It is still a powerhouse. Lost’s ratings can’t compete with DH but ABC still bills Lost like it’s one of their most popular shows. I expect the housewives to get the same treatment until the show ends. And i really do hope ratings stay put. I have to agree the cliff hanger this year was kinda stupid and predictable. They need to start going back to the roots of the Season and make the show shocking. The way they offed Edie was very tongue in cheek and that doesn’t drive ratings. While i understand “Housewives” is billed as a Dramaedy they should do something drastic to drive viewers back. It happened to “Friends” in Season 8, it’s never too late for a show to become relevant again.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:53:07 +0000

Bryan, 9/27 was the first Sunday that CW *didn’t8 program, because they’d done dreadfully at it in the past. And to answer your question, quite frequently their Sunday shows didn’t get 1 million viewers.

By: Bryan

Bryan — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:43:01 +0000

What ratings would the CW get if they launch shows on sunday. who knows maybe they wouldnt even get 1 million viewers, who knows

By: Mel

Mel — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:03:45 +0000

I thought the Cleveland show was dull and not funny. Lord knows, Nielsen families don’t agree with me on these things, but seriously. A whole half hour of that voice was grating. I won’t be surprised if it drops off significantly next week. Probably not enough to get it canned though.

By: johnthemon

johnthemon — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:30:17 +0000

vsaint, if they were watching cartoons with their children, they were watching the wrong ones. kids should not watch Family Guy…I know they do, but they shouldn’t.

By: vsaint

vsaint — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:27:31 +0000

Yeah, Nicolette Sheridan being killed off wasn’t great for ratings.
It’s numbers will go back up, the animation’s don’t do that! well in the demo’s.
I guess Mom’s were watching cartoons with there children, instead of DH.
Priemiere week has been solid but nothing great so far.
Can’t wait until Lost starts.
Shows with cliffhangers did great House, NCIS, Grey’s.
Others that went with the status quo, DH and CSI didn’t.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:01:19 +0000

I agree that DH is still the best series on television.
Ratings were not great, but better than a big majority of the so called “Emmy winning” shows!!!!

By: tvmegafan

tvmegafan — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:01:15 +0000

hmmm how about Dexters numbers? and Entourage I wanna continue my life long laugh at how poor its numbers are without the True Blood lead in…

By: Tony

Tony — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:30:58 +0000

My thoughts on DH

This season looks a million times better than last season and what Im hoping is that this seasons “disaaster” episode will be amazing (which I’ve heard rumors is going to be great) will get people talking and people realizing this season is much better than last season by far!

By: richard

richard — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:26:30 +0000

AZ Top if you remember TAR premiered the week following 9-11-2001. Its ratings started to pick up around TAR 5 with Charla and Myrna (the little person, who was anything but little)

By: richard

richard — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:44:53 +0000

to answer mark woods question how old do you have to be to watch 60 minutes? At least as old as some of the correspondents…..or Andy Rooney in particular…..See him driving a car? scary!

By: forg

forg — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:22:37 +0000

Wow I feel bad for B&S but I admit last season 3 was not good. The inclusion of Ryan was just wrong. But I hope they could rebound both creatively and ratings wise.

DH is still solid but not a powerhouse, I can’t blame the viewer erosion, I agree with one commenter that said that the DH mystery will always start strong but end on a whimper. Last year, I think it had better season premiere ratings because a lot were curious about the five year leap, this season the cliffhanger last season was not as exciting as last season is.

I’m happy for The Amazing Race’s performance. They really found a home on Sunday nights. On its earlier seasons it had a messy schedule, I think for a time CBS even planned it to air it on Saturday but thankfully they scrapped that!

I think the Family Guy’s ratings performance also benefited a lot from its EMMY exposure this year, they really made noise with their comedy nomination and the viral EMMY campaign video

Ah I miss the CW Sunday nights

By: Don J

Don J — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:13:36 +0000

Shem:
The TV-PG ratings is irelevant for Cold Case or even moving it to 8pm IMO woouldn’t make a huge difference. It’s an aging show, production costs are high and the music costs are high, which is one of the main reasons why it’s probably never seeing the light of day on DVD. Also, the show has a pretty large ensemble cast and the longer it stays on the air, the more CBS has to shell out to the actors salaries.

By: Don J

Don J — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:10:36 +0000

I heard that Marc Cherry has a 7 season plan for DH. So I don’t think it really matters that the ratings are nowhere near it’s hey day. ABC IMO will very likely renew it for a 7th and most likely final season.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:52:19 +0000

I watched The Cleveland Show, Desperate Housewives, and Brothers and Sisters live.

I recorded Family Guy and American Dad.

Its a shame that DH’s ratings are down since this season is already better than last season!

By: Holly

Holly — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:59:33 +0000

If DH’s ratings keep tanking, ABC should simply move it to Wednesdays @ 10 as it would be a compatible lead-out of Cougar Town. DH has been renewed until 2013, right?

DH dropped a LOT, but it’s still ABC’s second-highest rated drama. ABC can’t be happy with last night’s numbers, but they aren’t anywhere close to taking drastic action or giving up on the show.

By: Harold

Harold — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:52:44 +0000

Next Monday will be much more entertaining here when “Three Rivers” goes thermonuclear with ratings failure next Sunday.

Maybe its delusional fans will buy some bus ads. Why should they wait for the end of the “Three Rivers” run to throw away their money?

By: ABCHasProblems

ABCHasProblems — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:33:14 +0000

If DH’s ratings keep tanking, ABC should simply move it to Wednesdays @ 10 as it would be a compatible lead-out of Cougar Town. DH has been renewed until 2013, right?

By: Shem

Shem — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:15:35 +0000

Why would CBS put a PG-rated show @ 10pm; I’m all for PG shows at any time.. I consider Cold Case a family show. I loved it when it was on at 8, then they moved it 9 and now 10! Why is CBS doing this. Save Cold Case!

By: Christopher

Christopher — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:06:29 +0000

as fan of Housewifes i would be happy if it wrapped next season it was good but i am starting to see the same story line

By: Dan

Dan — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:58:21 +0000

Since so many people tuned in for the Cleveland premiere, even more people stuck around for Family Guy.

By: johnthemon

johnthemon — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:41:31 +0000

on the contrary Dan, the Cleveland Show’s popularity is from Family Guy. I think it has just become more popular what with all the repeats on Fox and TBS.

By: Dan

Dan — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:06:27 +0000

It also helped that Family Guy had a better lead in than last year. The episode was really good too.

By: So Cal

So Cal — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:58:23 +0000

Impressive 18-49 numbers for Family Guy, seems to be way up over last year

By: Dan

Dan — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:57:05 +0000

And surprisingly celebrities dont follow the rating system, they just do their job and think everything is OK.

By: Dan

Dan — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:56:25 +0000

Tom – Cold Case getting renewed was just, so CBS would have a veteran sunday drama. CBS axed Trace and kept Case, however come May, CC will be gone.

And Dollhouse being “in trouble” is an understatement. The show is basically finished, Cleveland seemed better to me than King of the Hill and American Dad.

By: Chad

Chad — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:33:02 +0000

“IF anyone wants a few laughs:

How “The Beautiful Life” cast/crew found out the show was canceled…”

The meandering FYI for today:

Sebastian Roche was to appear on The Beautiful Life, however he’ll have a reoccurring role on Fringe.

By: Tory

Tory — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:25:33 +0000

I’m thrilled that B&S’s numbers are down. Something has got to give on that show, creatively, its struggled for the last season or so and now they’ve made Ryan a permanent cast member? Maybe the network will step in and demand changes. I’ve noticed comments all over the place that people were dropping B&S this season. They are going to have to make it as good as it was a few seasons ago, or it could be toast. I think Eastwick would be a great pairing with DH.

I’m not sure why everyone is blaming football for DH and B&S numbers though. Do I watch football? Every single weekend, but that’s not most women and not the target demo that’s kept DH afloat for so long. I don’t think football can be blamed for DH’s bad showing. And it was hardly a riveting game to keep someone from watching their shows if that was what they wanted.

By: rob

rob — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:21:09 +0000

Anonymous, that is very funny! Dont they look at the ratings?

By: Gerry

Gerry — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:13:05 +0000

In my opinion DH got more viewership than it deserved. Last season
had its inventive “flash forward,” last night it took a big step back
creatively.

By: mark wood

mark wood — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:09:37 +0000

How on Earth would you not think you were cancelled after those two first week’s of ratings? Don’t you read or hear anything from the trades?

Seriously get a clue.

Now they could have told you in a nicer way, but you had to know it was coming.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:05:23 +0000

IF anyone wants a few laughs:

How “The Beautiful Life” cast/crew found out the show was canceled -
“It’s unbelievable the way that they told us—we were all in the middle of work. I was sitting in the hair and makeup chair, and I’m getting my hair done just like a normal Friday—we were all excited for Friday. And all of a sudden, they got the call, and the producers had to make an announcement on set that we were done—that we were over! And I was sitting there in shock. I couldn’t believe that in the middle of work, the rug was pulled out beneath our feet. Immediately, I run over to Corbin’s [Bleu] room, and I’m like, ‘oh my God, oh my God!’ I was freaking out! And Corbin was shocked. Everyone was just devastated. It was horrible. Terrible.”

Read lots more here: http://www.latina.com/blogs/vivo-por-tivo/exclusive-beautiful-life-star-sara-paxton-blasts-cw-over-shows-cancellation

FUNNY!

By: chrisjozo

chrisjozo — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:04:33 +0000

To those who think a lot of black people will watch this show, trust me they won’t. It’s boring and unfunny. The neighbors aren’t interesting like the ones on the other shows and the family just a family guy ripoff. Cleveland’s son was made fat like Chris. The baby is like Stewie only he’s horny instead of effeminate. The bear they have for a neighbor makes me want to start forest fires he’s so boring and unfunny.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:04:14 +0000

mark wood, you are correct, I should have written something like “do it reasonably easily”

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:53:21 +0000

How did the FOX animated shows individually do with 18-34?

By: JT

JT — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:52:22 +0000

I agree with those who think DH is in trouble. I had watched all 5 seasons but decided to quit because the mysteries always fall apart in the end, save for season 1. Just don’t want to waste my time anymore with second rate drivel. There’s just too many other good new shows on my DVR, like Modern Family and Flashforward, that I’d rather spend my time watching. Diehard fans shouldn’t blame football or fox when the problem is the show sucks and has since season 2. They should be thankful so many tuned in for so long. But I’m done for good.

By: tom

tom — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:50:46 +0000

I love how people in this room keep Saying Cold Case is going to be canelled. Last spring so many of the so called experts in this room were saying that Cold Case was going to be Cancelled But I Predcited Correctly that it would be renewed!

By: tom

tom — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:48:26 +0000

Those are Terrible Numbers For Desperate Housewives. Way Down From Last year(and last year wasnt good).I’m really surprised because it was actually an Excellent Episode. IF DH keeps getting numbers like this, this could be its final season

By: chrisjozo

chrisjozo — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:43:01 +0000

The Cleveland show was horrible. As long time fan of Fox’s Sunday animation block I don’t know how the greenlighted that show. My friends and I didn’t laugh at all. We are all mid-20′s Black males who love the Simpsons, King of the Hill, Family Guy and American Dad but this show fell flat. Half of the time it was boring and the other half it was unfunny. The characters aren’t really as interesting or endearing as the characters on the other shows.

I think a lot of that audience gave it a try out of loyalty to Seth McFarlane but I doubt they will all keep watching.

By: mark wood

mark wood — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:16:51 +0000

When they talk about 60 minutes being a loser they are talking about the demo. It still often is the most watched CBS show without a overrun. But without football, even with the largest audience it’s demo’s are absolutely terrible.

By: Dingo

Dingo — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:16:43 +0000

The bad news about being on the West Coast is that everything except the Academy Awards and most sporting events is broadcast on a three-hour tape delay, even when the shows originate in L.A.

The good news about being on the West Coast is that there almost never overruns. Local mid-afternoon programming may get bumped but 60 Minutes always starts at 7 p.m.

By: BrianM

BrianM — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:14:59 +0000

@Red — Although it premiered in the late 1960s, 60 Minutes didn’t become a permanent prime time show until the late fall of 1975 after a scripted show failed in the time slot. It was a desperation, stop-gap move, and I don’t think anyone thought it would work, even CBS. (I was in my 20s then and following the ratings in Variety and Broadcast magazine.) But it became this huge, unexpected hit, along with the Cher show (without Sonny), which followed it. Before ’75, 60 Minutes ran on Sunday before prime time and sometimes in the summer in prime time. As I recall, it replaced a Sunday public affairs show called “The 20th Century,” hosted by Cronkite. (http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/T/htmlT/the20thcent/the20thcent.htm)

By: mark wood

mark wood — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:14:43 +0000

Bill you average the numbers for the night and then compare those results between the weeks with an overrun and the weeks without.

I did this for the first year that TAR moved to Sunday, and then last year (though I don’t remember what the results were last year). But 2006 The overruns helped the 7pm, 8pm and 9pm hours (as longs the overrun wasn’t over half and hour), but the 10pm hour died.

I don’t know if that remained the case last year with the 9pm hour as well.

By: Holly

Holly — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:09:21 +0000

^Family Guy premiered with 9.09 million viewers and a 4.5 last year. It did hit a 5.1 once (Nov. 2).

By: CraigTh

CraigTh — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:02:19 +0000

Did Family Guy do this well last year? With all those millions of viewers, it puts them in the top 15 easily.

By: Holly

Holly — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:50:12 +0000

Numb3rs survival isn’t dependent on its own ratings so much as the ratings of the rest of CBS’s schedule. If Numb3rs stays close to what the other Friday shows are getting, CBS will only mess with it if they don’t have enough open spaces elsewhere. If the returning shows stay steady and NCIS:LA and Good Wife remain strong (leaving Sunday as the only weak point), Numb3rs is in trouble. If a couple of other hours during the week start becoming problems, Numb3rs could hold on another year.

By: Dan

Dan — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:42:39 +0000

Red, I think Numb3rs will stick around a little longer, but this will be the final Cold Case season. Jon is right, 10pm killed Shark, it killed The Unit, and it will kill Cold Case.

By: Red

Red — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:19:03 +0000

Mark my words. Both CC & Numbers are goners this season. Even if their ratings pick up, it will never be enough to justify the cost in CBS’ eyes (pardon the pun). Remember you read it here first.