ABC is one network that will air around 7-9 episodes of a series by November before announcing a series fate. If the 10pm trio of Castle/Forgotten/Eastwick have numbers like Stone/Daisies/Money did where ABC notices they are gradually decreasing, the network will let them air all 13 episodes into December and then announce a January replacement.

If Castle doesnt get a back 9, it will likely finish up its season on December 14th. (Like Boston Legal last year) ABC wont air repeats post Dancing so if the show gets a full year, December will likely be repeats for series. (I personally think this one will get a full year)

If The Forgotten doesnt get a back 9 it will finish up on December 15 or 29. This series doesnt look good right now for a full year, but like Eli Stone, Its liekly ABC will keep it in the slot to air new eps.

If Eastwick doesnt get a back 9, it will finish up December 16 or 30. This series given the lead in definitely doesnt look good for a full year, but I dont think unless it really does disatourous, that ABC would pull it.

ABC never airs repeats of the three series in their actual slots so, unless theres scheduling changes, hopefully all 3 will be burned off by December. I think Castle will get a full year and The Forgotten and Eastwcik will stick around long enough to fill holes, but its possible either could be pulled around November. If anything, I’m sure ABC will burn the extra episodes next summer. There would be around 3-4 for Forgotten or Eastwick so that shouldnt be too bad.

To be clear for the above two, there’s two scenarios:
If the show has a 22 episode order already, it is very rare that it will be canceled in the middle of the year. Usually you find out at the early May Upfronts that the show will not be returning – though if the end is obvious, the networks will tell the showrunners to make a season finale ahead of time.

If the show has a 13 episode order, then we usually “know” when the show does not get a “backorder” for additional episodes and does not appear on the midseason schedule. The networks usually don’t come out and say “The Forgotten is totally canceled!” because then no one will watch the episodes still on the schedule, and advertising revenue suffers.

Castle only has a 13-episode order. So keep an eye on ABC’s midseason schedule to know for sure.

Michy Geary – Castle’s fate will likely be decided by early November at the latest. Castle, Eastwick, and Forgotten began at the very beginning of the season so ABC has to look at the numbers for the first 7 episodes of each show before making a decision. Eastwick and The Forgotten’s fate will also be determined likely by November, if neither gets a full year before hand.

I could see FlashForward going to have a Life on Mars fate.

Advertisers don’t over estimate the buying power of he A18-49. All demos are important, but the other ones you can get at other times of the day, and at much cheaper rate. The A18-49 aren’t only valuable because the their buying power. They are valuable because they are very elusive, hard to get them to watch TV, fickle, hard to make them watch out of habit, and also are not habit bound to the brands they use, unlike the over 45.

Or am I thinking of another show?

Am not a fan of the 10 PM time slot, however. This is a show that families could enjoy if it were on a bit earlier.

OK, where would you put it?

For some reason, advertisers mistakenly think the 18-49 years olds are more important than us older folks. Frankly, I’ve done over seas traveling, made major purchases in the past year (while everyone else was worrying about their jobs), etc. I think they make a big mistake if they underestimate our buying power and over estimate the 18-49 year olds. Just because it was that way previously, doesn’t mean it still is.

Only once did I read an article about high income demos and according to it back then (about two years ago) the shows doing noteably better in them were Boston Legal and 30 Rock, so seeing how ABC and NBC treated those respectively (basically opposite extremes), this could still be an argument for just about anything.

It really is quite pointless to argue with fans in denial. From last year’s experience even when they were yanked from the schedule, and no more episodes were ordered, there were people that were able to convince themselves that they would return for a 3rd season…

When they were canceled they accused the promo department. Before the Castle fans even think of that one. Castle, of the returning shows, was the third getting more promotion, behind only GA, and DH. Promotion that started simultaneously with the new shows. B&S that performed better where it matters, in the demo, only started being promoted 2 weeks after they started promotion Castle.

Flashforward will get a full season within the month
Castle will get a full season around November
Eastwick will be axed in November but most of the episodes will continue to air throughout December
The Forgotten will air through December but end after 13 episodes.

And pisher, why exactly do you hate “Castle” and Nathan so much? If it’s not your cup of tea, then simply don’t watch it. Nobody is forcing you to do that.

It certainly won’t be the last.

How has Dollhouse done by the way DVD wise? And while FOX network dosent get any money, FOX studios does if the DVD sells well. (Why do you think Family Guy was brought back). House and Fringe are produced by Universal and WB so FOX wouldnt make $$ off those shows.

They kept it on in order to be able to say “We gave it a chance.”

And those who said “Hey, just give it a chance and we’ll be satisfied” were lying.

Of course.

What’s really funny is that the people screaming that Castle is being hurt by DWTS would scream even louder if ABC moved it away from DWTS. It’s a hard world for Fillion fans.

Dollhouse will be gone after the end of this year, they’re just delyaing the inevitable.

So now every time a show is predicted to be cancelled, people will toss out the “BS it will be… You said the same about Dollhouse!”

CP – I dont have control over what gets axed no one except the network does (obviously). However I’m making my best guess on what will happen based on rating trends, and how the series fared in last years timeslots. As well as the amount of series that ABC has for midseason.

The only problem is that I don’t think anyone on this site (and I could be wrong) has control over what gets cancelled and what stays. Just look at Dollhouse. With the numbers and the fact that its ridiculous, I would’ve cancelled it after 2 episodes.

To Bill, I believe you, I just don’t think its fair to doom a show after only a week or two unless it just absolutely tanks.

But!

I don’t understand why the ratings have dropped. This season is a lot better than the last season so far. It’s sexier, it’s funnier, it’s all around better.

I love the constant jibs at CSI type shows, and was laughing a lot at the “He also murdered the English language” comment… (I was an English major in college!).

I really hope this show survives. It’s one of the few I’m forced to watch w/ my girlfriend that I actually LOVE. (As opposed to Vampire Diaries, Glee, Grey’s Anatomy… please shoot me.)