bring back CHUCK at least it is different from all these medical dramas

Pulling for Fringe on Thursday. FOX is getting some really powerful stuff, hate to see more “Arrested Developments” or “Fireflies” occur.

I wish old Heroes viewers would come back into the fold. The three hours of Heroes that have aired so far have been spectacular. Season 1 quality. Oh well. I have little hope, but at least Heroes appears to be ending on a good note. LOL

Meanwhile the Big Bang Theory is becoming a monster.

I hope Lie to Me does better though, its retention wasnt great, but the show itself isnt bad.

FOX is also OK, lie to me has to do better, we all know that.

ABC needs help! After this cycle DWTS might bomb, and if that happens what is the launch for anything? I hope Modern family continues well on Wed because it will be important.

Jay Leno is not NBC’s problem, it is so much more. Will they be VH1 in 5 years or what? My whole life they were the network. period. What happened? I’m 32 and I watch more CBS than anything. When I was a kid that was what old people watched…..and I’m not that old…yet!

NBC is in a position where they can take chances, give us something new, over the top,risque, out of this world!!!!! Get people talking about something other than Leno, if that was the strategy, it’s not even October and nobody’s talking anymore.

tdot – Fringe is here to stay. I dont expect FOX to move it out of the 9pm slot. And I’d think it were more compatible with Bones than any other of FOX”s series.

Typo on my earlier post Holly. Yeah a 2.3 isn’t that great for a 1 hour drama. I guess it’s still a wait and see basis for it.

Dee: The CW’s target audience from everything that I understand about the network is young women and men in their 20′s. I think they have made that pefectly clear with the type of shows they greenlight like 90210, Gossip Girl, Vampire Diaries and Melrose that they are seeking younger viewers, which are attractive to advertisers. I personally don’t have any problem with the type of shows they create and audience they target let alone think they are age bigots.

Don J – If you were referring to Lie to Me when you were saying the back 9, FOX doesnt know yet. House 24 will definitely still air mondays in January but its likely that if Lie gets a full season it will be moved to air after Idol on Tuesdays until Past Life airs, or replace Dollhouse at 9 fridays. Those are the only two slots available as of FOX’s current planned midseason sched.

Holly – I only think Castle is safe if its ratings are consistent. With a likely low lead in and competition from CSI NY Eastwick willbe gone by December. The Forgotten has a Dancing lead in and freshman The Good Wife as competition so Forgotten has a 50/50 chance of making it for a full season. If you noticed last year ABC got rid of all of their 10pm series Mon-Wed (Boston Legal, Eli Stone, Dirty Sexy Money). My guess is that Castle will get a full year, but remember ABC has midseason dramas (Happy Town, The Deep End, Copper). So Eastwick and The Forgotten can easily be replaced if ABC isnt happy with how they perform.

I don’t understand how Castle could be in danger. I mean it’s never going to win the Monday at 10pm timeslot, so 2nd is very good and I think a 2.9 in the 18-49 demo isn’t bad at all.

A 2.9 would be great. Castle got a 2.2…not so great. Enough to keep its head above water? Maybe. It really depends on what happens with Forgotten and Eastwick.

Is it any wonder it bombed, and will almost certainly be canceled? It is possible to have a good drama about EMS that is fairly accurate about the technical points. Trauma looks like it was fact-checked by a four-year-old with a disassociation disorder.

I will give the next episode a try, and if it is as bad as the last ones, I am done with the show.

I’m glad someone posted their high DVD sales.

It had a huge budget cut for this year (which I believe will make anyone more creative) and

they won an EMMY for best effects last year. I think things are going well, considering all the bashing this show gets.

Looks like the departure of two main characters didn’t affect OTH that much

I don’t understand how Castle could be in danger. I mean it’s never going to win the Monday at 10pm timeslot, so 2nd is very good and I think a 2.9 in the 18-49 demo isn’t bad at all. Plus, how expensive could the show be? They shot some exteriors in NYC in season 1, but it looks to me that most of season 2 is shot in Los Angeles.

I fully anticipate episode 19 of Heroes to be the series finale. There is absolutely no way NBC spends anymore money on reboots and stunt casting for the show. I’ll still finish it out though.

Since 24 is taking over the Monday at 9pm timeslot come January, where does FOX put the back 9 or additional episodes should the show get them?

Tdot- I think FOX is sticking with th Bones/Fringe combo for the rest of the year (until May) they need to give something liek that time instead of just switching it up. I think FOX would rather save Fringe than Lie to Me.

i definitely think Fringe and Lie to me should swap slots
Fringe usually does pretty well leading out of House
and Lie to Me and Bones seems to be a good match as well
although there may be some overlap between Lie to Me and CSI

…although watching Manimal would be worse than waterboarding

Move it in the 9:00 tuesday slot, after Idol (If they really want to save it) and when Lie finishes its run, Past Life will begin airing

or

Move it to fridays at 9 (replacing Dollhouse) to either burn it off or generate interest. Lie is likely to lower severely if it airs Friday but will probably get more viewers than Dollhouse

Though retention isnt great, I still think FOX will give Lie to Me a chance, at least over Dollhouse. What does everyone think?

Lie to Me – likely full season renewal
Trauma – Maybe additional episodes 50/50
Accidentally on Purpose – additional episodes likely

On the upside, from what I’ve heard about Trauma, Lie to Me just may get some of their refugees next week!

The only thing that Heroes might have going for it is that it’s like an episode of Hell’s Kitchen when Chef Ramsey declares someone of the losing team the “best of the worst”, but who knows if that’ll keep them around for very long. With all new shows always failing and sometimes it seems like almost expected to fail just from watching one promo like Trauma, Mercy, Kings, soon to be Southland, etc. Heroes being better than those isn’t saying much for it.

All of NBC’s new dramas ALWAYS have the same type of cast, aura, and general feel that people are either getting tired of, or are just so uninteresting that there’s nothing that immediately intrigues them like other shows. Without watching, having never even seen an episode of these shows, and only looking at the promos, it feels like Trauma, Mercy, Southland, etc… they feel like they’re the same show and the casting along with other shows like Kings, Merlin, Heroes, etc. where the costumes, the lighting, just the overall look of the show it just as that uninteresting NBC “feel” about them which is not a good one.