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	<title>Comments on: Don&#039;t Get Attached To Hank</title>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really glad that Flashforward is in the likely to be renewed catagory. It&#039;s the only new show I&#039;ve been watching and I&#039;m totally hooked. I read that it&#039;s going to be getting a full season, but only in one place. I haven&#039;t found any confirmation elsewhere. Does anyone know if this is true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really glad that Flashforward is in the likely to be renewed catagory. It&#8217;s the only new show I&#8217;ve been watching and I&#8217;m totally hooked. I read that it&#8217;s going to be getting a full season, but only in one place. I haven&#8217;t found any confirmation elsewhere. Does anyone know if this is true?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish they chose to premiere &quot;Modern Family&quot; with &quot;The Middle&quot;, as MF is amazing and TM is quite promising.

&quot;Cougar Town&quot; had potential, but the manic tone and over-the-top acting is soooooo grating. I want to stab them all in the face, except the son (whatever his name is, he&#039;s saving the show for me...oh, and the hot neighbor man-cougar, despite his character being a tool). They need to get their shit together or just piss off altogether.

&quot;Hank&quot; sucks and I only gave it a shot the first week because that Melinda McGraw was on Mad Men, and she&#039;s awesome. Everyone else should DIAF.

I can see them cancelling all but &quot;Hank&quot;. This may be the last season of &quot;Scrubs&quot;, which means MF + TM + CT + &quot;Better Off Ted&quot; = a solid comedy block.

Can&#039;t wait to see what happens. Also, I hope &quot;The Forgotten&quot; is cancelled soon so my mother can stop clogging up the DVR with it and never watching it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish they chose to premiere &#8220;Modern Family&#8221; with &#8220;The Middle&#8221;, as MF is amazing and TM is quite promising.</p>
<p>&#8220;Cougar Town&#8221; had potential, but the manic tone and over-the-top acting is soooooo grating. I want to stab them all in the face, except the son (whatever his name is, he&#8217;s saving the show for me&#8230;oh, and the hot neighbor man-cougar, despite his character being a tool). They need to get their shit together or just piss off altogether.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hank&#8221; sucks and I only gave it a shot the first week because that Melinda McGraw was on Mad Men, and she&#8217;s awesome. Everyone else should DIAF.</p>
<p>I can see them cancelling all but &#8220;Hank&#8221;. This may be the last season of &#8220;Scrubs&#8221;, which means MF + TM + CT + &#8220;Better Off Ted&#8221; = a solid comedy block.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to see what happens. Also, I hope &#8220;The Forgotten&#8221; is cancelled soon so my mother can stop clogging up the DVR with it and never watching it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/06/dont-get-attached-to-hank/29687/comment-page-5/#comment-135786</link>
		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom writes, &quot;Will Scrubs even be schedulable for late Jan/February if they are only casting now (to say nothing of shooting?)&quot;


They are doing at least 18, and maybe 19, half hours this season and you&#039;re asking if it will be schedulable for February?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom writes, &#8220;Will Scrubs even be schedulable for late Jan/February if they are only casting now (to say nothing of shooting?)&#8221;</p>
<p>They are doing at least 18, and maybe 19, half hours this season and you&#8217;re asking if it will be schedulable for February?</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noooo!!  Why are people not watching Castle?  That is one of my favorite shows!  They simply can&#039;t cancel it :(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noooo!!  Why are people not watching Castle?  That is one of my favorite shows!  They simply can&#8217;t cancel it <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Heradite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heradite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Hank won&#039;t be back as it didn&#039;t get a back nine order but the Middle still has a chance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Hank won&#8217;t be back as it didn&#8217;t get a back nine order but the Middle still has a chance!</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/06/dont-get-attached-to-hank/29687/comment-page-4/#comment-135198</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d really like to know where Wiki got the 2.6 for the second episode from. The fast nationals had it at 2.3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d really like to know where Wiki got the 2.6 for the second episode from. The fast nationals had it at 2.3.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ Wikipedia proof!  (though we LOVE Wikipedia!).  The 3.0 was a preliminary number that was heavily adjusted down to a 2.2 in the final numbers due to 

a.) 2 minutes of Dancing With the Stars overrun that was included in the preliminary numbers but stripped out in the finals and 

b.) Monday Night Football was shown on the local ABC affiliates in Green Bay, Milwaukee and Minneapolis (where about 50% of the people watching TV in those markets were watching the game.  Those numbers were included in the preliminary numbers but stripped out in the finals.  

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ Wikipedia proof!  (though we LOVE Wikipedia!).  The 3.0 was a preliminary number that was heavily adjusted down to a 2.2 in the final numbers due to </p>
<p>a.) 2 minutes of Dancing With the Stars overrun that was included in the preliminary numbers but stripped out in the finals and </p>
<p>b.) Monday Night Football was shown on the local ABC affiliates in Green Bay, Milwaukee and Minneapolis (where about 50% of the people watching TV in those markets were watching the game.  Those numbers were included in the preliminary numbers but stripped out in the finals.  </p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, Wikipedia is not a reliable source for anything. Castle&#039;s preliminary rating was 3.0, but that was artificially inflated due to football airing in two markets. The football viewers were removed in the final numbers, and it ended up with a 2.2, which tied its final numbers last week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, Wikipedia is not a reliable source for anything. Castle&#8217;s preliminary rating was 3.0, but that was artificially inflated due to football airing in two markets. The football viewers were removed in the final numbers, and it ended up with a 2.2, which tied its final numbers last week.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/06/dont-get-attached-to-hank/29687/comment-page-4/#comment-135186</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Gorman and Robert Seidman, Im confused by u 2 Castle gets a 3.0 rating but you guys say is did a tiny bit better and said it got a 2.2 why? I got proof it got a 3.0 in ratings

Episode Ratings, Season 2
Episode Number   Episode   Rating   Share   Rating/Share
(18-49)   Viewers
(millions)   Rank
(Overall)   
1 &quot;Deep in Death&quot; 6.1 10 2.3/6 9.26 TBA 
2 &quot;The Double Down&quot; 6.2 10 2.6/6 9.56 TBA 
3 &quot;Inventing the Girl&quot; 6.1 10 3.0/7 11.64 TBA 
4 &quot;Fool Me Once...&quot; TBA TBA TBA TBA TBA 
5 &quot;When the Bough Breaks&quot; TBA TBA TBA TBA TBA 

I got this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_(TV_series)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Gorman and Robert Seidman, Im confused by u 2 Castle gets a 3.0 rating but you guys say is did a tiny bit better and said it got a 2.2 why? I got proof it got a 3.0 in ratings</p>
<p>Episode Ratings, Season 2<br />
Episode Number   Episode   Rating   Share   Rating/Share<br />
(18-49)   Viewers<br />
(millions)   Rank<br />
(Overall)<br />
1 &#8220;Deep in Death&#8221; 6.1 10 2.3/6 9.26 TBA<br />
2 &#8220;The Double Down&#8221; 6.2 10 2.6/6 9.56 TBA<br />
3 &#8220;Inventing the Girl&#8221; 6.1 10 3.0/7 11.64 TBA<br />
4 &#8220;Fool Me Once&#8230;&#8221; TBA TBA TBA TBA TBA<br />
5 &#8220;When the Bough Breaks&#8221; TBA TBA TBA TBA TBA </p>
<p>I got this from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_(TV_series)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric (Ohio)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric (Ohio)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason you&#039;re predicting Castle to be cancelled is because you wouldn&#039;t think that a cop and a writer would make a good team.

But you&#039;d be wrong!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason you&#8217;re predicting Castle to be cancelled is because you wouldn&#8217;t think that a cop and a writer would make a good team.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;d be wrong!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelsey is a funny talented actor. But these types of shows don&#039;t seem to play well anymore unless their on CBS Monday nights. This is exactly where his LAST show should have been.  

It would have been a hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelsey is a funny talented actor. But these types of shows don&#8217;t seem to play well anymore unless their on CBS Monday nights. This is exactly where his LAST show should have been.  </p>
<p>It would have been a hit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m rooting for Hank.  I think it&#039;s bold to make a multi-cam show right now. And though I really liked Cougar Town tonight, I thought The Middle and Modern Family were boring - especially Modern Family - there is no time to get to know any of these characters.  But, instead of rooting or guessing when a comedy will get cancelled, I&#039;ll wait and see - shows get better with time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m rooting for Hank.  I think it&#8217;s bold to make a multi-cam show right now. And though I really liked Cougar Town tonight, I thought The Middle and Modern Family were boring &#8211; especially Modern Family &#8211; there is no time to get to know any of these characters.  But, instead of rooting or guessing when a comedy will get cancelled, I&#8217;ll wait and see &#8211; shows get better with time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t mean that the shows won&#039;t air, I meant that the shows won&#039;t be slottable in the February schedule because they may be held in reserve for when Dancing shrinks in size.

Will Scrubs even be schedulable for late Jan/February if they are only casting now (to say nothing of shooting?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t mean that the shows won&#8217;t air, I meant that the shows won&#8217;t be slottable in the February schedule because they may be held in reserve for when Dancing shrinks in size.</p>
<p>Will Scrubs even be schedulable for late Jan/February if they are only casting now (to say nothing of shooting?)</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hit return too soon. Meant to say that &quot;Scrubs&quot; has an order for 18 (or is it 19?) half hours, so I don&#039;t believe they will exclusively just use it as a bridge between &quot;Dancing with the Stars&quot; cycles. They kinda can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hit return too soon. Meant to say that &#8220;Scrubs&#8221; has an order for 18 (or is it 19?) half hours, so I don&#8217;t believe they will exclusively just use it as a bridge between &#8220;Dancing with the Stars&#8221; cycles. They kinda can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom writes, &quot;Scrubs and Ted may or may not be available – something needs to be left to pad the Dancing hours once the number of contestants shrinks.&quot;


&quot;Ted&#039;s&quot; shot half their 13-ep order. And I hear the new episodes are fantastic. Don&#039;t follow &quot;Scrubs&quot; production (or watch it, for that matter), except they started casting the 5th show of the season last week. So, they&#039;re available... whenever ABC feels like using them. I believe &quot;Ted&quot; and 20th were told to plan for a December premiere -- although subject to change, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom writes, &#8220;Scrubs and Ted may or may not be available – something needs to be left to pad the Dancing hours once the number of contestants shrinks.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ted&#8217;s&#8221; shot half their 13-ep order. And I hear the new episodes are fantastic. Don&#8217;t follow &#8220;Scrubs&#8221; production (or watch it, for that matter), except they started casting the 5th show of the season last week. So, they&#8217;re available&#8230; whenever ABC feels like using them. I believe &#8220;Ted&#8221; and 20th were told to plan for a December premiere &#8212; although subject to change, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would say, the middle, eastwick and castle will renew for a new season and maybe the forgotten. I am definitly sure that hank will be cancelled sooner or later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would say, the middle, eastwick and castle will renew for a new season and maybe the forgotten. I am definitly sure that hank will be cancelled sooner or later.</p>
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		<title>By: Shenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the Middle is given a chance its very funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the Middle is given a chance its very funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK 1st of all whoever said i should run along to E well thanks but im 30, its not really for me.

The renew/cancel index is fine, its just the way the articles talk about these shows like their already dead &quot;Melrose Place joins TBL in the TV Graveyard&quot; etc, at least add a question mark on the end. I think its fun to see how the shows progress but i think its idiotic to put headlines like that which declare that a show is over.

Thats all, no offence meant to anyone who posts on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK 1st of all whoever said i should run along to E well thanks but im 30, its not really for me.</p>
<p>The renew/cancel index is fine, its just the way the articles talk about these shows like their already dead &#8220;Melrose Place joins TBL in the TV Graveyard&#8221; etc, at least add a question mark on the end. I think its fun to see how the shows progress but i think its idiotic to put headlines like that which declare that a show is over.</p>
<p>Thats all, no offence meant to anyone who posts on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The apparent requirement these days for a new TV show is to achieve instant rating success or DIE. It&#039;s sad that programs that get off to lousy ratings start don&#039;t get a chance to fix their flaws, find a rhythm, get better at what they do, and find an audience. Look at some of the most successful shows in TV history -- i.e., &quot;M*A*S*H&quot; and &quot;Cheers,&quot; to name a couple -- and you&#039;ll see that they did NOT enjoy immediate success. And does anyone remember how truly bad the first episodes of &quot;Star Trek: The Next Generation&quot; were? The result of the current climate is that viewers won&#039;t bother to watch a show that they believe is destined to fail. It&#039;s a lose-lose proposition. I must be one of the only people in America who has enjoyed &quot;the forgotten,&quot; and I thought the first episodes of &quot;Hank&quot; and &quot;The Middle&quot; showed potential. Who knows if they&#039;ll get a chance to reach that potential... but given their chances, I for one won&#039;t make these shows a viewing &quot;destination.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The apparent requirement these days for a new TV show is to achieve instant rating success or DIE. It&#8217;s sad that programs that get off to lousy ratings start don&#8217;t get a chance to fix their flaws, find a rhythm, get better at what they do, and find an audience. Look at some of the most successful shows in TV history &#8212; i.e., &#8220;M*A*S*H&#8221; and &#8220;Cheers,&#8221; to name a couple &#8212; and you&#8217;ll see that they did NOT enjoy immediate success. And does anyone remember how truly bad the first episodes of &#8220;Star Trek: The Next Generation&#8221; were? The result of the current climate is that viewers won&#8217;t bother to watch a show that they believe is destined to fail. It&#8217;s a lose-lose proposition. I must be one of the only people in America who has enjoyed &#8220;the forgotten,&#8221; and I thought the first episodes of &#8220;Hank&#8221; and &#8220;The Middle&#8221; showed potential. Who knows if they&#8217;ll get a chance to reach that potential&#8230; but given their chances, I for one won&#8217;t make these shows a viewing &#8220;destination.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - Wife Swap can air whenever, so maybe Tuesdays at 9. I dont think ABC wants to mess up their comedy block but they may want to replace a couple of shows. They could move Scrubs and Ted to 8 but then where will Lost air? If they need to break their comedy block for Lost to air at 9 then I could see Modern/Cougar moving to 8. Deep End has 6 episodes so should Castle finish by March, it could be a replacement. Bachelor will air 8-10 mondays, If True Beauty airs, Id say maybe Tuesdays at 10 until ABC schedules a new drama by March Copper or Happy Town. The other could likely get the 10pm slot wednesday. Either way you look at it, Eastwick, The Forgotten, and Hank will be gone while should ABC renew The Middle it could get placed on the schedule around March.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; Wife Swap can air whenever, so maybe Tuesdays at 9. I dont think ABC wants to mess up their comedy block but they may want to replace a couple of shows. They could move Scrubs and Ted to 8 but then where will Lost air? If they need to break their comedy block for Lost to air at 9 then I could see Modern/Cougar moving to 8. Deep End has 6 episodes so should Castle finish by March, it could be a replacement. Bachelor will air 8-10 mondays, If True Beauty airs, Id say maybe Tuesdays at 10 until ABC schedules a new drama by March Copper or Happy Town. The other could likely get the 10pm slot wednesday. Either way you look at it, Eastwick, The Forgotten, and Hank will be gone while should ABC renew The Middle it could get placed on the schedule around March.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S.-
Deep End only has 6 episodes and is therefore unlikely to get Feb scheduling. 
V will only air during November, possibly coming back in March if ratings are any good. 
Copper is a Canadian production and not likely to get Feb scheduling. 
The reality shows you didn&#039;t list (Bachelor, True Beauty) are likely to air during Winter (Dec/Jan).
Scrubs and Ted may or may not be available - something needs to be left to pad the Dancing hours once the number of contestants shrinks.

So by my math, they only have three midseason hours - Lost/Happy/Wife (and Wife is only a last resort for prime slots), and all signs point to them needing 3.5 hours in Feb already (Forgotten/Eastwick/V/Hank). Castle may get a reprieve (or at least time share the slot with Deep End) for lack of anything else to air during Feb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S.-<br />
Deep End only has 6 episodes and is therefore unlikely to get Feb scheduling.<br />
V will only air during November, possibly coming back in March if ratings are any good.<br />
Copper is a Canadian production and not likely to get Feb scheduling.<br />
The reality shows you didn&#8217;t list (Bachelor, True Beauty) are likely to air during Winter (Dec/Jan).<br />
Scrubs and Ted may or may not be available &#8211; something needs to be left to pad the Dancing hours once the number of contestants shrinks.</p>
<p>So by my math, they only have three midseason hours &#8211; Lost/Happy/Wife (and Wife is only a last resort for prime slots), and all signs point to them needing 3.5 hours in Feb already (Forgotten/Eastwick/V/Hank). Castle may get a reprieve (or at least time share the slot with Deep End) for lack of anything else to air during Feb.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobber123</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobber123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the question on color blindness yes it does. Colors now appear brown(ish!) , orange , grey/grey now but much more obvious.  Much appreciated. Not too surprised about Forgotten as the format depends on the other characters, none of whom are particularly memorable. 
Eastwick inevitably will suffer by comparison with both the book and the film. I think it also suffered from an excess of possible characters and some average to indifferent acting and a so-so script. I am afraid I got no further than the pilot myself and could only wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the question on color blindness yes it does. Colors now appear brown(ish!) , orange , grey/grey now but much more obvious.  Much appreciated. Not too surprised about Forgotten as the format depends on the other characters, none of whom are particularly memorable.<br />
Eastwick inevitably will suffer by comparison with both the book and the film. I think it also suffered from an excess of possible characters and some average to indifferent acting and a so-so script. I am afraid I got no further than the pilot myself and could only wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Righ now on ABC medianet, they have, Lost, Happy Town, The Deep End, Scrubs and Wife Swap announced for Mid-Season. That is 4.5 hours. They can cut Castle, Forgoten, Eastwick, and Hank without blinking. If &quot;V&quot; tanks, and it is likely, they still have 1 hour to fill the gap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Righ now on ABC medianet, they have, Lost, Happy Town, The Deep End, Scrubs and Wife Swap announced for Mid-Season. That is 4.5 hours. They can cut Castle, Forgoten, Eastwick, and Hank without blinking. If &#8220;V&#8221; tanks, and it is likely, they still have 1 hour to fill the gap.</p>
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		<title>By: ABCFanatic2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABCFanatic2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think Castle/Eastwick/Hank/The Middle/the forgotten will be all canceledI knew at least half of the wednesday line-up will not get high ratings, particularly Eastwick (they have the actress from Lipstick Jungle) and HankI knew the forgotten will get low ratings, it has Christian Slater of My Own Worst EnemyAnd I knew Castle will have the same fate like Eli Stone, Pushing Daisies and Dirty Sexy Money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think Castle/Eastwick/Hank/The Middle/the forgotten will be all canceledI knew at least half of the wednesday line-up will not get high ratings, particularly Eastwick (they have the actress from Lipstick Jungle) and HankI knew the forgotten will get low ratings, it has Christian Slater of My Own Worst EnemyAnd I knew Castle will have the same fate like Eli Stone, Pushing Daisies and Dirty Sexy Money</p>
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		<title>By: AO</title>
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		<dc:creator>AO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loathe Cougar Town, but as I have said before, it and Modern Family are working well at 9-10 on Wednesday and represent the future for ABC.  Moving them makes no sense to me.

As for Castle, I sincerely hate that it&#039;s in trouble, but it is and it&#039;s first week&#039;s DVD sales of 53,294	did nothing to make me feel better about it&#039;s chances.  

At this rate, of the shows that I watch, Lost has the best chance of making it back next Season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loathe Cougar Town, but as I have said before, it and Modern Family are working well at 9-10 on Wednesday and represent the future for ABC.  Moving them makes no sense to me.</p>
<p>As for Castle, I sincerely hate that it&#8217;s in trouble, but it is and it&#8217;s first week&#8217;s DVD sales of 53,294	did nothing to make me feel better about it&#8217;s chances.  </p>
<p>At this rate, of the shows that I watch, Lost has the best chance of making it back next Season.</p>
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		<title>By: forg</title>
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		<dc:creator>forg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope ABC won&#039;t move Modern Family-Cougar Town especially if they continue to deliver consistent solid ratings. They could air lost at 8pm like in the first seaason or move it on Tuesday where its really a weak night for them (even with DWTS around).

I feel bad for Kelsey, Back to You was a better post-Frasier show for him. Hank is just okay to say the least. I&#039;m rooting for The Middle, I hope it could find a way to survive.

Although, it hasn&#039;t aired yet, I&#039;m hoping Ugly Betty would pull respectable ratings when it premieres on its new Friday slot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope ABC won&#8217;t move Modern Family-Cougar Town especially if they continue to deliver consistent solid ratings. They could air lost at 8pm like in the first seaason or move it on Tuesday where its really a weak night for them (even with DWTS around).</p>
<p>I feel bad for Kelsey, Back to You was a better post-Frasier show for him. Hank is just okay to say the least. I&#8217;m rooting for The Middle, I hope it could find a way to survive.</p>
<p>Although, it hasn&#8217;t aired yet, I&#8217;m hoping Ugly Betty would pull respectable ratings when it premieres on its new Friday slot</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug (2) says:

&quot;Lost can go anywhere and probably bring its audience with it, so it goes to Tuesday at 9pm, sandwiched by DWTS and V. Why V? the Elizabeth Mitchell connection, of course. That will get the attention of some Lost fans, at the very least.&quot;

In which case, why not put &quot;V&quot; before Lost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug (2) says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Lost can go anywhere and probably bring its audience with it, so it goes to Tuesday at 9pm, sandwiched by DWTS and V. Why V? the Elizabeth Mitchell connection, of course. That will get the attention of some Lost fans, at the very least.&#8221;</p>
<p>In which case, why not put &#8220;V&#8221; before Lost?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really look at it that way since those aren&#039;t the only shows on the network.  But I understand why you&#039;d think that based on my earlier comment. Sorry for the confusion.

My general guideline for scripted one hour dramas is that if a show is below a .94 or so that gets it into &quot;on the bubble&quot; range.  Shows less than .85 are in serious danger, and shows lower than a .75 not on a Friday are doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really look at it that way since those aren&#8217;t the only shows on the network.  But I understand why you&#8217;d think that based on my earlier comment. Sorry for the confusion.</p>
<p>My general guideline for scripted one hour dramas is that if a show is below a .94 or so that gets it into &#8220;on the bubble&#8221; range.  Shows less than .85 are in serious danger, and shows lower than a .75 not on a Friday are doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Cullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Robert if Castle remains in the 2.0-2.3 range, The Forgotten drops down to the 1.3-1.5 range, and Eastwick goes down to the 1.7-1.9 range does that save Castle or does it need to build its way up to a 2.5?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Robert if Castle remains in the 2.0-2.3 range, The Forgotten drops down to the 1.3-1.5 range, and Eastwick goes down to the 1.7-1.9 range does that save Castle or does it need to build its way up to a 2.5?</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree Doug. ABC can put Lost anywhere they want to. The only reason I see Scrubs and Better off Ted airing on Wednesdays is because like you said, ABC doesn&#039;t really have a spot for it. I know that ABC said they will air them on Tuesdays at 9 in the midseason but I just don&#039;t see them working there. I will say Scrubs could fit the Comedy lineup if The Middle moves to 8PM and Scrubs goes to 8:30. Better Off Ted is the oddball on ABC, so where it goes is really a toss up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree Doug. ABC can put Lost anywhere they want to. The only reason I see Scrubs and Better off Ted airing on Wednesdays is because like you said, ABC doesn&#8217;t really have a spot for it. I know that ABC said they will air them on Tuesdays at 9 in the midseason but I just don&#8217;t see them working there. I will say Scrubs could fit the Comedy lineup if The Middle moves to 8PM and Scrubs goes to 8:30. Better Off Ted is the oddball on ABC, so where it goes is really a toss up.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug (2)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug (2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doubt bet on ABC messing with Wednesday this season, even for Lost. ABC really wants this comedy line-up to work, and it does, from 9-10pm. Moving it would be a sign that it&#039;s not working, or that the network has a different long-term strategy on the night. It doesn&#039;t - it wants comedies there. Slotting Lost at 9pm and moving the comedies would be painfully short-sighted. As for Scrubs and BOT, they really don&#039;t fit with the flow of the night. ABC will probably launch them on Monday, or Thursday when Flashforward takes a break for repeats. I don&#039;t really see a spot for either of those shows, to be honest.

Given that Lost is in its last season, and I say this as a huge fan who will be gutted after the last episode airs, as a series, it really doesn&#039;t matter to ABC anymore. Lost can go anywhere and probably bring its audience with it, so it goes to Tuesday at 9pm, sandwiched by DWTS and V. Why V? the Elizabeth Mitchell connection, of course. That will get the attention of some Lost fans, at the very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doubt bet on ABC messing with Wednesday this season, even for Lost. ABC really wants this comedy line-up to work, and it does, from 9-10pm. Moving it would be a sign that it&#8217;s not working, or that the network has a different long-term strategy on the night. It doesn&#8217;t &#8211; it wants comedies there. Slotting Lost at 9pm and moving the comedies would be painfully short-sighted. As for Scrubs and BOT, they really don&#8217;t fit with the flow of the night. ABC will probably launch them on Monday, or Thursday when Flashforward takes a break for repeats. I don&#8217;t really see a spot for either of those shows, to be honest.</p>
<p>Given that Lost is in its last season, and I say this as a huge fan who will be gutted after the last episode airs, as a series, it really doesn&#8217;t matter to ABC anymore. Lost can go anywhere and probably bring its audience with it, so it goes to Tuesday at 9pm, sandwiched by DWTS and V. Why V? the Elizabeth Mitchell connection, of course. That will get the attention of some Lost fans, at the very least.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The1337 past experience leads me to believe its best only to compare Castle to only Eastwick and The Forgotten, here.  And the very real possibility is they could all be gone. 

Though I believe Hank is doomed regardless, the actions around 30 minute sitcoms are harder to predict.  If The Middle had even a slightly lower score than Castle, I wouldn&#039;t necessarily find it to be in worse shape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The1337 past experience leads me to believe its best only to compare Castle to only Eastwick and The Forgotten, here.  And the very real possibility is they could all be gone. </p>
<p>Though I believe Hank is doomed regardless, the actions around 30 minute sitcoms are harder to predict.  If The Middle had even a slightly lower score than Castle, I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily find it to be in worse shape.</p>
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		<title>By: The1337</title>
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		<dc:creator>The1337</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Castle will probably end higher than The Middle, Hank, Eastwick, and The Forgotten with a steady 2.1-2.3, but it&#039;s still not looking good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Castle will probably end higher than The Middle, Hank, Eastwick, and The Forgotten with a steady 2.1-2.3, but it&#8217;s still not looking good.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother and Sisters Green so good to see it there</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5506, type : then ( and you get :(

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.support.wordpress.com/smilies/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here are the rest.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5506, type : then ( and you get <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://en.support.wordpress.com/smilies/" rel="nofollow">Here are the rest.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:(

does that help?</description>
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<p>does that help?</p>
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		<title>By: 5506</title>
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		<dc:creator>5506</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dam. I want a sad face but i cant. Can someone help me?</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Err, yes, when I said producers I meant the production company (i.e. studio) involved.

I need to be more careful with my Hollywood lingo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Err, yes, when I said producers I meant the production company (i.e. studio) involved.</p>
<p>I need to be more careful with my Hollywood lingo!</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom writes, &quot;Actually, ABC tried to only get 6 episode initial orders of V and at least one other show, but the producers wouldn’t bite (who can blame them, given the losses they will take if no additional episodes are ordered). 6-8 episode orders make perfect sense for networks&quot; 


It&#039;s the studios that balk on under-13 episode orders. The license fees they get from 12 episodes on top of the pilot help to better amortize the costs of keeping production running than the license fees from 5 episodes on top of the pilot do. Mind you, when renowned cheapskate Jeff Sagansky was running CBS back in the early &#039;90s, he got to a point where he stopped giving anything -- even the new fall shows -- 12 episode pickups. The studios were PISSED OFF, but he pretty much told them to take it or leave it. Anyone who wanted a show on CBS took it. This was back when CBS had the World Series, and as I recall, I think he tried to use that as an excuse. That 6 or 8 episodes would take them up to baseball interruptions, and then he&#039;d reevaluate whether or not to order more while the show was off for a month. This was all well and good in theory, except that Sagansky didn&#039;t actually have 6-8 weeks of patience... so most of the shows got yanked after, like, 3-5 episodes. (Coincidentally, that practice ended overnight when he mercifully quit in 1994. &quot;Chicago Hope&quot; even got a 22-episode order right off the bat.) 

Of course, as ABC has proven time and time again, Steve McPherson will pick up 13 episodes and then it gets cut down to 10 or 8 or 7 (or in &quot;Single with Parents&#039;&quot; case, 1) shortly thereafter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom writes, &#8220;Actually, ABC tried to only get 6 episode initial orders of V and at least one other show, but the producers wouldn’t bite (who can blame them, given the losses they will take if no additional episodes are ordered). 6-8 episode orders make perfect sense for networks&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the studios that balk on under-13 episode orders. The license fees they get from 12 episodes on top of the pilot help to better amortize the costs of keeping production running than the license fees from 5 episodes on top of the pilot do. Mind you, when renowned cheapskate Jeff Sagansky was running CBS back in the early &#8217;90s, he got to a point where he stopped giving anything &#8212; even the new fall shows &#8212; 12 episode pickups. The studios were PISSED OFF, but he pretty much told them to take it or leave it. Anyone who wanted a show on CBS took it. This was back when CBS had the World Series, and as I recall, I think he tried to use that as an excuse. That 6 or 8 episodes would take them up to baseball interruptions, and then he&#8217;d reevaluate whether or not to order more while the show was off for a month. This was all well and good in theory, except that Sagansky didn&#8217;t actually have 6-8 weeks of patience&#8230; so most of the shows got yanked after, like, 3-5 episodes. (Coincidentally, that practice ended overnight when he mercifully quit in 1994. &#8220;Chicago Hope&#8221; even got a 22-episode order right off the bat.) </p>
<p>Of course, as ABC has proven time and time again, Steve McPherson will pick up 13 episodes and then it gets cut down to 10 or 8 or 7 (or in &#8220;Single with Parents&#8217;&#8221; case, 1) shortly thereafter.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVID</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Kelsey was miscast in this role.  He is to old to be play a father with teenage kids.   Sorry to say this but..  Kelsey need to find a better another show or retire for a few years and guest star on other shows.</description>
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		<title>By: CSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch for Hank, likely to slide more this week since last week was the pilot.  Eastwick is heading for cancellation unless ratings hold this week.  The Middle is probably safer simply because it&#039;s a comedy and an ABC comedy at that. 

I don&#039;t think ABC will move Modern Family and CT from Wed @ 9 as others seem to think might happen.  As long as they continue to hold up well and remain competitive in that hour, why mess with that?  Even moving them to 8 isn&#039;t good since that hour has fewer overall viewers.  I think LOST will either air Wednesday @ 10 or possibly back in its Season 1 slot of Wed @ 8.  I know nothing leading out of LOST ever did well but ABC has never had anything on after LOST that already had an established audience so it could happen.  Of course this would involve ABC not having comedies at 8 so I don&#039;t know how willing they are to give that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch for Hank, likely to slide more this week since last week was the pilot.  Eastwick is heading for cancellation unless ratings hold this week.  The Middle is probably safer simply because it&#8217;s a comedy and an ABC comedy at that. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think ABC will move Modern Family and CT from Wed @ 9 as others seem to think might happen.  As long as they continue to hold up well and remain competitive in that hour, why mess with that?  Even moving them to 8 isn&#8217;t good since that hour has fewer overall viewers.  I think LOST will either air Wednesday @ 10 or possibly back in its Season 1 slot of Wed @ 8.  I know nothing leading out of LOST ever did well but ABC has never had anything on after LOST that already had an established audience so it could happen.  Of course this would involve ABC not having comedies at 8 so I don&#8217;t know how willing they are to give that up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I&#039;m thinking that ABC doesn&#039;t want to mess with the Comedy block. They have struggled with comedy for a long time and now that they have one that looks like it&#039;s going to work well they should leave it alone and let it grow. Hank is really the only week spot in the lineup but ABC has Scrubs and Better off Ted that can fill in the spot. Lost will probably get the 9PM slot on Tuesdays following V. ABC knows that Lost fans are die hards at this point and with this being the final season the fans will show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I&#8217;m thinking that ABC doesn&#8217;t want to mess with the Comedy block. They have struggled with comedy for a long time and now that they have one that looks like it&#8217;s going to work well they should leave it alone and let it grow. Hank is really the only week spot in the lineup but ABC has Scrubs and Better off Ted that can fill in the spot. Lost will probably get the 9PM slot on Tuesdays following V. ABC knows that Lost fans are die hards at this point and with this being the final season the fans will show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad, we stopped posting both the network average and the show average in these posts because otherwise we would have to remove them after 2 weeks per our agreement with Nielsen on using their numbers. The Index is a derivative that we can keep online all season. You can still see the network season to date averages themselves (two weeks of them at least), &lt;a href=&quot;http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/nielsen-network-tv-ratings-season-to-date&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad, we stopped posting both the network average and the show average in these posts because otherwise we would have to remove them after 2 weeks per our agreement with Nielsen on using their numbers. The Index is a derivative that we can keep online all season. You can still see the network season to date averages themselves (two weeks of them at least), <a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/nielsen-network-tv-ratings-season-to-date" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could have missed why in a post somewhere, but did you guys decide to stop posting the networks average per their page or just forget?

I kind of liked seeing week to week progress per average network rating and being able to see if renewal cancel changes were more from increased/decrease viewers or increase/decrease in the overall network average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could have missed why in a post somewhere, but did you guys decide to stop posting the networks average per their page or just forget?</p>
<p>I kind of liked seeing week to week progress per average network rating and being able to see if renewal cancel changes were more from increased/decrease viewers or increase/decrease in the overall network average.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nkninsey - I agree they order so much, yet somehow ABC finds time to air every program and even the unaired episodes from their cancelled series. I bet most of the cancelled shows will resurface next summer for burnoffs. Their midseason schedule seems the most interesting to me.

Lee -  Thats not going to happen. Maybe a slight increase, but in general, the numbers for Eastwick and The Forgotten will only go down.

Kevin - Its never the actors fault, its usually the show itself doesnt catch on or isnt good. Hank doesnt look like it fits in with the other ABC comedies and seems like the weak point. Its reviews arent that great either, which makes it a good candidate for cancellation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nkninsey &#8211; I agree they order so much, yet somehow ABC finds time to air every program and even the unaired episodes from their cancelled series. I bet most of the cancelled shows will resurface next summer for burnoffs. Their midseason schedule seems the most interesting to me.</p>
<p>Lee &#8211;  Thats not going to happen. Maybe a slight increase, but in general, the numbers for Eastwick and The Forgotten will only go down.</p>
<p>Kevin &#8211; Its never the actors fault, its usually the show itself doesnt catch on or isnt good. Hank doesnt look like it fits in with the other ABC comedies and seems like the weak point. Its reviews arent that great either, which makes it a good candidate for cancellation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless The Forgotten and Eastwick do a 180 and have a huge jump this week, I think Castle will move ahead of both in the next index rating. Will that be enough to save it for the season? I don&#039;t know but it certainly helps its chances I would think. 

From everything I&#039;ve read Castle will see an increase from previous weeks even after the DWTS and football numbers are shaved off from last night. Final numbers can&#039;t come soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless The Forgotten and Eastwick do a 180 and have a huge jump this week, I think Castle will move ahead of both in the next index rating. Will that be enough to save it for the season? I don&#8217;t know but it certainly helps its chances I would think. </p>
<p>From everything I&#8217;ve read Castle will see an increase from previous weeks even after the DWTS and football numbers are shaved off from last night. Final numbers can&#8217;t come soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not Kelsey Grammer&#039;s fault. The guy&#039;s trying to bring back the sitcom, in an era where the genre is dead, unless Chuck Lorre is at the helm of your show. 12 years ago The Office would have gotten cancelled with the numbers its been putting up the past few seasons, yet now the show is considered a hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not Kelsey Grammer&#8217;s fault. The guy&#8217;s trying to bring back the sitcom, in an era where the genre is dead, unless Chuck Lorre is at the helm of your show. 12 years ago The Office would have gotten cancelled with the numbers its been putting up the past few seasons, yet now the show is considered a hit.</p>
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		<title>By: FJHS3</title>
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		<dc:creator>FJHS3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am actually enjoying HANK, but perhaps I&#039;m enjoying it in light of a remake of Green Acres...they even have the Contractor-brother-in-law who replaces Mr. Haney....    Hope it lasts a bit longer.  (They do seem to over stress his absolute lack of knowledge about his kids, but I guess the learning/discovery will be part of the charm of the show.)

FJHS3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am actually enjoying HANK, but perhaps I&#8217;m enjoying it in light of a remake of Green Acres&#8230;they even have the Contractor-brother-in-law who replaces Mr. Haney&#8230;.    Hope it lasts a bit longer.  (They do seem to over stress his absolute lack of knowledge about his kids, but I guess the learning/discovery will be part of the charm of the show.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Robot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Robot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just get it overwith and bring back Frasier.</description>
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		<title>By: X-R.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>X-R.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well...if Kelsey Grammer gets depressed about another cancellation....then maybe he can call Dr Fraiser Crane...I hear he&#039;s good at helping people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230;if Kelsey Grammer gets depressed about another cancellation&#8230;.then maybe he can call Dr Fraiser Crane&#8230;I hear he&#8217;s good at helping people.</p>
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