Comments on: Melrose Place: Prepare For The Privileged-esque PR Voodoo

By: smallville

smallville — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:44:40 +0000

They should let Smallville stay on as long as they want. Smallville has given them now 9 seasons of a strong show. Since it is likely the Smallville cast will quit after seaoon 10, why not let them finish and show some appreciation for lasting this long. Its just too bad that as a show, Smallville will likely end when its plots and stories are at a peak. everyone wants superman and lois and clark to fall for each other, publicly. Anyway I hope Smallville goes on for many more seasons, but in terms of being realistic, at least give it a 10th season. great show deserves a better time slot for everything its done for CW, a distant 4th best station. Move Smallville to Wednesday!

By: Heradite

Heradite — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:26:19 +0000

@The Punisher:

Am I? At least I can spell “you’re”. Now are you a Smallville fan? If so, I am sorry but after Lex Luthor left the show, I followed him out. I know the series still produces good episodes, but I’m done with it. A 90210/MP fan? I watch both weekly. Their still boring, but I’m just watching in case Jessica Walters comes back, and I still think MP can get better.

Anyways, why wasn’t this updated?

By: The Punisher

The Punisher — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:36:11 +0000

Heradite says:
October 8, 2009 at 8:46 pm
GOSSIP GIRL FTW!

I’m happy it’s finally beating the jumped-the-shark Smallville.

Seriously.

Anyways, I hope Melrose Place gets canceled. It’s just as boring as 90210, which I also hope gets canceled.

Ur an idiot!

By: April

April — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:30:42 +0000

The new Melrose is actually better than the new 90210. It will be a shame if it gets cancelled and 90210 stays. Ashlee Simpson is the only one not performing well on Melrose, they need to wrap up her doe eyed story line with her being the murderer and sent off to jail never to return… and do so fast before she destroys the show.

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:26:42 +0000

I think MP is safe. I think the ratings will only improve. I also think if they air repeats of the show next summer it’ll do really well and people will tune in for season 2.

By: Heradite

Heradite — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:46:36 +0000

GOSSIP GIRL FTW!

I’m happy it’s finally beating the jumped-the-shark Smallville.

Seriously.

Anyways, I hope Melrose Place gets canceled. It’s just as boring as 90210, which I also hope gets canceled.

By: Jim

Jim — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:05:15 +0000

They need to just cancel Melrose and bring back Reaper but instead if it’s canceled I’m sure they’ll just make Dawson’s Creek with new kids living there.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:04:43 +0000

Bill – I agree. America’s Next Top Model, One Tree Hill, Supernatural, Gossip Girl, 90210, The Vampire Diaries are all returning next season. Smallville is 50/50 and Melrose qhile questionable, is leaning toward getting a second year. Its not doing great, but remember the veteran trio (Smallville, One Tree Hill, Supernatural) are getting older, so its good CW has young original series to stick around.

By: clucka

clucka — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:33:09 +0000

Um, predicting that “Melrose Place” will be cancelled by May 2010 is not realistic as of yet. The show is going to be revamped in the coming weeks, and with Heather Locklear joining the cast November 17, as Amanda Woodward, the show will no doubt get way bigger ratimgs. Whoever wrote this story obviously is not very well suited for this business. The ratings for the show won’t even count in the eyes of the CW until Heather Locklear returns.

By: Dee

Dee — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:26:06 +0000

Jace, Jace, Jace, . . . you poor, misguided soul. Tell the truth, now. Is Dawn paying you to come on here and defend the indefensible?

The cold, hard reality is that a new programming chief would be perfectly justified in canning every single program currently on the CW and starting over from scratch.

Now, we are all attached to our personal favorites, myself included, but that shouldn’t be a consideration. The health and well-being of the network is what matters. Having it expire from poor leadership and public apathy does not serve the cause of more and varied programming options.

The highest ratings the CW ever got should be the floor of their expectations, not the ceiling. And, it is indisputable that Dawn and the current CW management team has been, and continues to be, a hinderance to the networks chances for any real success.

By: Justin

Justin — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:45:49 +0000

Don, there im betting there is a 10% chance smallville will go more then 10 seasons because they can always make a movie to end it completely and they could do another chapter like supernatural. But as of now that is a just hoping right now tho we dont need to worry about it. Ask again maybe in March because they will tell us if it will be renewed or not.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:34:49 +0000

Sam, barring “lights out” at the CW or a show specific non-ratings event, Gossip Girl will be on the air next season.

By: Sam

Sam — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:27:50 +0000

Should there be worry about Gossip Girl getting renewed? It’s not performing nearly as well as it did last season, but the demographic ratings are still the highest, right?

Does the CW not actually care about the demographics as much as they say they do? I mean, I know Melrose Place would have to go before Gossip Girl does, but I’m slightly worried since Hilary Duff and Tyra Banks didn’t raise the rating any this week.

90210 and OTH both have higher overall ratings than GG, so is it possible they would stay and GG would get canceled? I hope not…

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:52:22 +0000

Well said, Jace. There is A LOT of CW bashing going on.

As for Melrose Place, it is a great show that has exceeded my expectations, and is getting stronger with each episode. Count me as one that hopes it stays around for a while.

By: Jace

Jace — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:16:51 +0000

Wow. I’m just amazed at the folks who have nothing better to do in their lives than to come on this board and bash The CW and Dawn Ostroff on a daily basis. Pretty sad existence. I tend to believe that CW could schedule Buffy, Gilmore, Veronica, Felicity, Body Politic, and every other cult favorite, and you people would STILL find a reason to complain. It’s pretty puzzling. Exactly why are you so hellbent on the failure of a network? Do you not LIKE having more choice? Would you really prefer all reality crap?

Yeah, yeah, I know….you’ll bash me, as usual, but why not take a look at your own motives. To celebrate the low ratings of a show, to hope that people are put out of work…I just don’t get that at all.

By: Don

Don — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:13:30 +0000

If Smallville get renewed for a tenth season then for sure it will be its final season. They will be able finish the story they want to tell.

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:47:45 +0000

Are you guys cool with SpoilerTV ripping off your Renew/Cancel Index? Seems really lame on their part.

By: mary

mary — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:31:24 +0000

i really hope supernatural ends this year. it’s my favourite show, but i want the actors and the crew to go on their own way, far far away from the cw and the gossip crap that infected it! and when supernatural is gone, what are they going to put on that slot?? so curious.. gossip girl reruns?? ahahah

By: Julia

Julia — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:22:51 +0000

Craig, no one has suggested that Melrose Place will be pulled anytime soon. In fact, the prose in this article suggests that it will get extra episodes above 13. But it will be canceled at the end of the season.

By: Craig

Craig — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:20:17 +0000

Do you honestly think the CW will dump Melrose when they have just signed for Heather to return? If the ratings dont go above the 2 million mark after she returns then the show will play out season 1 and then get the axe.

Its a shame, its getting stronger every episode.

By: JenSmith

JenSmith — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:17:57 +0000

I don’t see why Smallville wouldn’t be renewed for a final 10th season. The producers are on record saying they want a season 10, they have Welling signed for a 10. The show makes money through DVD and other venues.

What else can CW put on Friday and get the ratings they are getting? Last Friday Smallville was preempted in NY for a Mets game, yet stayed above 2 million.

By: John

John — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:27 +0000

I still do not understand why MELROSE PLACE’s ratings aren’t going up – the show is fantastic, and gets better with every episode – I thought people would pick up on that. Wasn’t it a sure-fire hit? I still don’t get why it isn’t doing better -it’s a great show.

By: james

james — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:36:27 +0000

Thanks Bill, we were discussing the value of iTunes, Amazon.com and such to TV shows. Just trying to figure out some raw numbers and if those numbers can help a show out enough to help keep it on the air.

By: Brian D

Brian D — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:52:06 +0000

I personally think 90210 and Melrose Place’s writers attempt to drive these shows away from their root concepts will be the end of both of these shows. You can’t do this without alienating fans of the originals therefore driving some of the watcher base away.

By: ABCFanatic2009

ABCFanatic2009 — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:31:37 +0000

Melrose Place is going to be canceled

CW must be happy with the Vampire Diaries.

They should move Smallville into Wed 9/8c

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:43:51 +0000

james, occasionally we see iTunes numbers in the entertainment media or press releases, but nothing on a regular basis.

By: james

james — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:34:56 +0000

Is there anyway of finding out the number of downloads a show gets on iTunes or Amazon.com? Thanx in advance.

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:15:38 +0000

Justin – I guess that means that Supernatural will be starting a sixth year with a new story arc then. While Smallville is 50/50 to return more toward it getting renewed.

By: Justin

Justin — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:11:26 +0000

Dan, the supernatural producers dont want to end the show neccesarily because they can make a new chapter in the series with same characters sam and dean. Eric Kripke and the producers stated that were planning a 5 year story arc but if they could and do go another season it would start a WHOLE new chapter in the series. As for Smallville Tom Welling and Erica Durance already signed on for a season 10 and kelly souders and brian peterson said they would stay. They have a series finale plaanned if this is their last but they said they could change it if its renewed.

Jill, I disagree I hope they go another season because it is true what could they do after Lucifer and the apocalypse but the show always surprises us and I bet they could come up with a really good second chapter to the series

By: Cullen

Cullen — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:35:23 +0000

Bill, how long till Dawn Ostroff is fired and the CW PR team is allowed to run the network?

By: Jill

Jill — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:04:28 +0000

I’m really hoping that Supernatural ends this year. I adore it and don’t want to see it go, but at the same time, there’s not really anywhere you can go after the Apocalypse and Lucifer walking the earth. XD

I’m also still bitter at the CW for making it seem like Privileged might get renewed. I loved that show.

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:52:03 +0000

CW wants both series, but the Supernatural producers want to end the show. It should be back in 2010-2011. Smallville is 50/50. The producers may want the show to finish up but The CW may want to keep it. It isnt a question of ratings at this point, its the fact that Smallville is getting older.

By: Julia

Julia — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:34:26 +0000

Oh, I agree. As I said last week, I can’t imagine Supernatural looked any better last year, and yet it was renewed, so obviously there are other factors. But I’m tracking the final ratings anyway, so it’s just a matter of a few clicks in Excel, and people seem to be interested in it.

By: Jesse

Jesse — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:33:36 +0000

Well there is another big factor with Smallville. DC comics is due to lost rights to Superman in 2013 back to the creator’s family. (Which has caused a bit of worry with Marvel being bought by Disney and having more bidding power than it previously had) That might also factor into the continued survival of Smallville as a show on the CW Though if memory serves DC does hold the rights to Smallville and all the “young Superman” stuff. It’s all going to be interesting to see how it plays out.

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:26:05 +0000

Julia, here’s one issue with focusing on W18-34 averages with the CW shows (one reason I didn’t do theirs that way). Although the CW clearly *wants* women 18-34, you’ve got to believe they sell ad time based on whatever viewership they get, so while Smallville gets a knock in the “Dawn’s strategic focus” column, it’s not clear that the money made from the show isn’t more in line with its 18-49 average.

By: Julia

Julia — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:19:24 +0000

The index according to W18-34:

America’s Next Top Model – R 0.37
Smallville 0.42
The Beautiful Life 0.48
Melrose Place – R 0.53
Melrose Place 0.79
Supernatural 0.82
90210 1.19
One Tree Hill 1.24
America’s Next Top Model 1.35
Vampire Diaries 1.40
Gossip Girl 1.48

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:16:47 +0000

Folks, the factors that will determine whether Supernatural and Smallville come back are likely not ratings related, they’ve got the ratings, but more along the lines of whether the producers and cast want to keep doing the shows. Of course, big checks can help that.

By: Justin

Justin — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:14:56 +0000

and might I add that it also states that (S) – Syndication: Shows nearing syndication (66-88 episodes), often have economic factors that trump ratings leading to renewal. and Supernatural is a S so there is a even better chance of it being renewed.

TIME WILL TELL!

By: Justin

Justin — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:13:04 +0000

Jesse, as you see smallville yes ahs bad ratings right now but I dont see it being cancelled considering what it says on the top of this page in what F means and I qoute what Bill said”Fridays: Shows airing on Friday’s have been renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.” and the show is beating fox right now so Im not giving up on Smallville and there is still a 3/4 chance of it being renewed since the show is prepared for a 10th season. As for Supernatural Eric Kripke stated that if the show has good enough ratings and if he wants to and Jared and Jensen will stay there is a possibility for a season 6 because they can start a new chapter in the series. As of right now their ratings are pretty good and they’re only in their 5th episode out of 22 so dont give up on these 2 yet.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:03:01 +0000

Isn’t it all but official that both Smallville and Supernatural are ending this year? Smallville’s drop will most likely ensure its finish date but it’ll be interesting to see if the WB can force a spin-off or another DC hero onto Dawn next year as they’ve been planning to for a while. Meanwhile everyone involved in Supernatural has been talking about the ‘five year plan’ since day one and that it would be five seasons and out for the show, unless I’m mistaken this is Supernatural’s fifth season…

Elsewhere at The CW I’d be amazed if Melrose got yanked before mid season and I’d be surprised if it got yanked before the end of the season period. It seems to me that Dawn is going to stubbornly stick with this and refuse to admit defeat until the last possible moment. And as far as Life Unexpected goes I’m interested to see if it can last longer than The Beautiful Life given that from all reports its even worse than TBL was.

By: Jesse

Jesse — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:54:26 +0000

Smallville and Supernatural are the only two shows I watch on the CW anymore (Used to also watch Reaper & Vampire Diaries)

Smallville will probably be biting the dust this year as the time slot is awful and there just isn’t much left to do without putting him in the Union Suit.

Supernatural is nearing the end of it’s five year arch that was originally the shows design so if it’s kept we’ll be seeing huge changes in the show. O.o

So I’m not sure how much longer the CW will even be a recognized network in my household LOL

By: Chad

Chad — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:37:45 +0000

“Bonus points for a tragic violent death. I’ll be right on top of that episode.”

Perhaps Stephanie Jacobsen can strangle and shoot her. She did well in clearing out another disliked character on another series.

CW has a series produced by Ashton Kutcher and another starring Ashlee Simpson, and they wonder…

By: VA

VA — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:34:03 +0000

“I don´t know why their ratings haven´t grew up since the premiere…”

Because other people(including myself) that watched it had a different opinion…

By: vsaint

vsaint — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:31:37 +0000

Wasn’t Mischa Barton offered a role on Melrose Place?
It probably won’t have made a difference, but you never know.
It does look like CW offered Ashlee Simpson the role because always in the tabloids.

By: VA

VA — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:29:54 +0000

Life Unexpected will probably replace MP in January.

By: Angiblat

Angiblat — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:24:55 +0000

Get rid of Ashlee Simpson and I just might be bothered to watch it. Bonus points for a tragic violent death. I’ll be right on top of that episode.

By: yisascry

yisascry — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:23:12 +0000

i actually like the melrose place´s remake since the begining, not like the last season with 90210.I don´t know why their ratings haven´t grew up since the premiere…

By: Brad

Brad — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:15:28 +0000

Charlene,

Gossip Girl is a much cheaper show to product compared to Smallville which is in its ninth season. If anything, I expect Smallvile and either Supernatural/One Tree Hill to go this year. If they renew Melrose, and Life Unexpected they won’t have many slots open for new shows if they keep the above 3 classics.

By: Rob

Rob — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:15:26 +0000

I was a big fan of the original, but the new show is not good, not very entertaining. People always look for excuses as to why a show makes it or doesn’t. I honestly think the reason ratings are falling is because the show isn’t good. People might have turned in for curiosity but stopped watching. I can’t imagine that even Heather Locklear herself will be able to turn things around unless the show’s writing, scripts and acting improve.

By: CSM

CSM — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:59:20 +0000

I know why CW is airing Melrose repeats on Wednesday but with things not looking so good for the show already, maybe they should air 90210 repeats instead since that show seems to be slipping into the danger zone. With the show apparently reworked some, maybe they need to try and protect a show that’s trying to keep it’s head above water rather than one that seems to be drowning.