What in the World does that mean????

OOPS!!! I really am having a bad proof reading day. What I MEANT to say was “until the ‘green monsters’ came out on MSNBC — not FOX. That make more sense. LOL

By their town hall behavior and the gravitation of viewers to FNC, more and more Americans are saying, “enough”.

What in the World does that mean????

Reality-based news??? Are you kidding me? LMAO You probably wouldn’t know the truth if it hit you up beside the head. For you to assume that everyone who disagrees with you only listen to Fox is no only silly, but shows your own prejudices and narrow mindedness. I used to watch both MSNBC and Fox until the “green monsters” came out on Fox and they let go anyone who had other points of view.

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You’re way off the mark. I wouldn’t sit through any one-hour spin job from a failed sportscaster. Don’t count me as one who watched his stuff.

I wonder if you would delete comments if they were all pro Obama?

If you look at your website numbers I think you will find they have gone up since you opened the forum.

I mean you no disrespect Sir

The rest of us, thankfully, can get our news from a number of places. While our freedom to choose between a couple of channels means reality-based news loses out in the ratings race to FOX…well, that’s just the burden we all have to face.

DON’T MESS WITH MOM!

I remember my mother going after a person with a hockey stick when they treatened my brother and I.

Jason, Right on the money. Watch fox because Obama don’t want you to.

Most Ozombies are willing to go over the edge with their Dear Leader and would not watch FOX because Dear Leader tells them not to!

Like Rachal (POTSY) Maddcow has never has watched FOX and never would, but she hates it! Never watched it but hates it!

The major networks (ABC, NBC, CBS) don’t do news anymore. They tell you “The Republicans say THIS, but the Democrats say THAT.” and they end it there… WHAT INFORMATION DO YOU GET FROM THAT??!?!? And most cable networks (CNN, MSNBC) don’t even go that far. They just tell you “The Democrats say THAT”, and that’s all you hear…

Fox get’s labled “conservative” because they say “The Republicans say THIS, but the Democrats say THAT.” and THEN do some ACTUAL reporting to analyze which is more correct. It turns out that it’s frequently the Republicans – which makes Fox APPEAR conservative because they’re telling you the Republicans are correct. Incidentally, the ALSO do it if the Democrats are correct but, let’s face it, with Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Gibbs, Biden, Rangel, etc. it’s pretty rare these days.

America is falling apart all around us and people believe Fox is unfair and conservative because that’s what they’ve been told. Here’s a thought: WATCH FOR YOURSELF. There is no better way to prove whether it’s true or not. Remember, if America collapses – there isn’t any way to get it back. Until the day you die, you and your family will suffer because of it. Are you really going to just LET that happen because a couple dozen people on the internet told you not to listen to what’s going on around you?

I’m sitting here waiting to be attacked… fyi, I’m 40 years old, balding, and I wear glasses… I’m sure if you throw in some comments like “4-eyed cueball” or something, that will help to prove me wrong… ANYTHING other than what’s really going on.

Right. This administration seems to make news 24/7, although not all that great.

You state:

“”"Please remember that Olbermann has only been on for six years, whereas O’Reilly has been on for thirteen years.”"‘

Where does that leave Beck? He’s been with the station for 10 months (not years) and is beating all combined shows on all cable news?

Will the apollo alliance write the next stimulus? They wrote the first.

Apollo alliance started By Bill (TERRORIST) Ayers buddy, his buddy also started the weather underground with Ayers. (watch Beck)

Nice friends there BO.
I wound not have people like this around me. Would you?

SEC. 123. HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

(a) Establishment-

(1) IN GENERAL- There is established a private-public advisory committee which shall be a panel of medical and other experts to be known as the Health Benefits Advisory Committee to recommend covered benefits and essential, enhanced, and premium plans.

(2) CHAIR- The Surgeon General shall be a member and the chair of the Health Benefits Advisory Committee.

(3) MEMBERSHIP- The Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall be composed of the following members, in addition to the Surgeon General:

(A) 9 members who are not Federal employees or officers and who are appointed by the President.

(B) 9 members who are not Federal employees or officers and who are appointed by the Comptroller General of the United States in a manner similar to the manner in which the Comptroller General appoints members to the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission under section 1805(c) of the Social Security Act.

(C) Such even number of members (not to exceed who are Federal employees and officers, as the President may appoint.

Such initial appointments shall be made not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.

(4) TERMS- Each member of the Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall serve a 3-year term on the Committee, except that the terms of the initial members shall be adjusted in order to provide for a staggered term of appointment for all such members.

(5) PARTICIPATION- The membership of the Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall at least reflect providers, consumer representatives, employers, labor, health insurance issuers, experts in health care financing and delivery, experts in racial and ethnic disparities, experts in care for those with disabilities, representatives of relevant governmental agencies. and at least one practicing physician or other health professional and an expert on children’s health and shall represent a balance among various sectors of the health care system so that no single sector unduly influences the recommendations of such Committee.

(b) Duties-

(1) RECOMMENDATIONS ON BENEFIT STANDARDS- The Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall recommend to the Secretary of Health and Human Services (in this subtitle referred to as the `Secretary’) benefit standards (as defined in paragraph (4)), and periodic updates to such standards. In developing such recommendations, the Committee shall take into account innovation in health care and consider how such standards could reduce health disparities.

(2) DEADLINE- The Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall recommend initial benefit standards to the Secretary not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act.

(3) PUBLIC INPUT- The Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall allow for public input as a part of developing recommendations under this subsection.

(4) BENEFIT STANDARDS DEFINED- In this subtitle, the term `benefit standards’ means standards respecting–

(A) the essential benefits package described in section 122, including categories of covered treatments, items and services within benefit classes, and cost-sharing; and

(B) the cost-sharing levels for enhanced plans and premium plans (as provided under section 203(c)) consistent with paragraph (5).

(5) LEVELS OF COST-SHARING FOR ENHANCED AND PREMIUM PLANS-

(A) ENHANCED PLAN- The level of cost-sharing for enhanced plans shall be designed so that such plans have benefits that are actuarially equivalent to approximately 85 percent of the actuarial value of the benefits provided under the reference benefits package described in section 122(c)(3)(B).

(B) PREMIUM PLAN- The level of cost-sharing for premium plans shall be designed so that such plans have benefits that are actuarially equivalent to approximately 95 percent of the actuarial value of the benefits provided under the reference benefits package described in section 122(c)(3)(B).

(c) Operations-

(1) PER DIEM PAY- Each member of the Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall receive travel expenses, including per diem in accordance with applicable provisions under subchapter I of chapter 57 of title 5, United States Code, and shall otherwise serve without additional pay.

(2) MEMBERS NOT TREATED AS FEDERAL EMPLOYEES- Members of the Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall not be considered employees of the Federal government solely by reason of any service on the Committee.

(3) APPLICATION OF FACA- The Federal Advisory Committee Act (5 U.S.C. App.), other than section 14, shall apply to the Health Benefits Advisory Committee.

(d) Publication- The Secretary shall provide for publication in the Federal Register and the posting on the Internet website of the Department of Health and Human Services of all recommendations made by the Health Benefits Advisory Committee under this section.

Because you seem to insist on implying our healthcare system isn’t up to par versus the rest of the world, here are some FACTS about our HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. Please note, a nation’s HEALTH is not solely affected by a nation’s HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. In fact, the LARGEST affect on a nation’s HEALTH comes from BEHAVIORS (40%) – e.g. lack of exercise, alcohol/drug/tobacco use, eating habits, etc. Only 10% comes from the quality of the HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.

Here are the facts:

Mortality rate for major trauma: US 8.2%, Germany 14.3%, Great Britain 16.5%, France 17.1%. Thus, you are 2x more likely to die from a major trauma in the Great Britain than in the US.

Mortality rate for heart attack: US 6.5%, Germany 8.1%, Great Britain 9.4%, France 9.2%. Thus, you are 50% more likely to die from a heart attack in Great Britain than in the US.

Mortality rate for infants born with a weight less than 1500 grams: US 12.2%, Canada 16.4%, Germany 21.1%, Sweden 22.4%, UK 24.5%. Thus, a newborn less than 1500 grams is 2x more likely to die in the UK than in the US.

Five-year survival rate for breast cancer (the number one cancer in women, 33% of all cancers in women): US 90.1%, Europe 79.0%. Thus, 11 more women out of 100 die in Europe from breast cancer than in the US.

Five-year survival rate for prostate cancer (the number one cancer in men): US 99.3%, 77.5%. Thus, 22 more men out of 100 die in Europe from prostate cancer.

Fiver year survival rate for all cancers: US 66.3% (men) / 62.9% (women), Europe 47.3% (men) / 55.8% (women).

Clearly, our HEALTHCARE SYSTEM is not the problem. What is the problem is our BEHAVIORS.

FWIW, NONE of the networks or politicians are address the REAL ISSUE with HEALTH in the US. The issue is NOT the HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, it is our UNHEALTHY LIFESTYLE.

My thoughts and prayers are with your friends and your niece. My thoughts right now to take care of any needed surgeries now or you may not be approved to have them if this health care reform goes through. We should fix what is broken NOT break what is not broken.

He got another job, but no insurance would pick up the baby because there were some complications. When the baby was born, he had what is called trisomi 19 (3 instead of 2 of the 19th chromosome.) That meant that he would live about 2 months at best, they would have to intubate him, use intervenus feeding, and have 24/7 care.

The baby did, in fact, die after about 6 weeks. It was awful. It was also very, very expensive. They will probably never pay the bill off. They have three other kids and are paying all they can each month. They may have to sell their new house because the combined medical and funeral costs were simply too high for them to deal with.

That is one example. I think I could find some stats on the internet somewhere when I have time. I know that I hold off on going to the doctor sometimes because someone else in the family has to go and I don’t want to pay 2 bills in one month. My neice is waiting to see what happens with this bill before she gets her operation that would cost her $60,000 with her current insurance because of co-pay…. These are solidly middle class people. I can hardly imagine what people are going through who make $20,000 at MacDonalds.

And don’t kid yourself about it being a choice about driving or home ownership. if you don’t live “off the grid” you are paying somehow, someway.

It was a pleasure talking and expressing ideas with someone who is respectful of others even in disagreement.

It is late for me and I must go.

Good night all!

Thomas Jefferson wrote:
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.”

Today the Constituion is used by our leader to bind the people. The Constutution was written as a contract that all elected leader swore to follow. It was the chains that binded them. The Constutution was the promise that the people would always be the true power of our great Country. The Federal Government was put in place to keep the Country safe from ememys. Also treaties with other Country that had nothing in them that would impede the people of this Country, And help the people of this country down a path of the peoples choice and not choosing a path for them! All other power would go to the states.

If you look at how the Constitution was written, it was written in such a way that all literate people could read it and that they could explain to the nonliterate citizens. This was the hopes of our forefathers. Now, the lawyers in Washington try to interpret it’s true meaning. The truth is, there is no more perfectly written document that came from the hands of man. This was a document made so the people could hold it up in the face of our elected leaders and tell them when they are wrong! Our leaders should never tell us what it means and should never be interpreted by the Government for it’s own advantage.

This is a truly great Country, We (for the most part) do not have riots when we disagree we have intellectual riots a real fight for the hearts and minds. Most of our elected leaders in Washington would argue that they have the intellectual high ground because theY went to Harvard. In part this might be true they may well be more intellectual than alot of us but, we are the ones who really hold the intellectual high ground for this reason. The truth is with us as is The Constituion.

To the people of The United States of America I say, “Every American should have a copy of The Constitution and The Declaration of Independence you should learn it’s true meaning so that the Government never has to tell you what it means. The first three word of the Constitution are – WE THE PEOPLE. Not, We the Government.”

To the Government I say, “Follow our rules! WE ARE THE PEOPLE!”

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Besides railing against it is butting your head against a wall, it is far too wildly popular a program, like Medicare. Incidentally, at least a few republicans have come out as defenders of Medicare! Who’da thunk it?