http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/10/dollhouse-shows-enormous-dvr-gains.html

I saw some during Fringe the night before. There was the half naked Eliza sprawled across the bottom of the screen, the other seemed to take a comedic approach to tie it in with the crappy sitcom lead-ins. I understand Whedon can do campy, but I still didn’t feel it was the right fit.

Going to go with another poster’s idea, Fox should return Killer Bees and When Babies Attack on Fridays. Or whatever they were…

Since advertising revenue is closely tied to a show’s 18-49 ratings, getting 79% of the revenue with 25% of the cost seems like a win to me.

Bill and Robert – haaallllpppp!
I can’t win the Powerball
For better archives

Five numbers and one
And Rene Auberjonois
From Boston Legal

Nielsen does suck
They’re legal, but not moral
They should realize…

…the ratings themselves
are better than most of the
stuff on TV now

Que sera, sera,
FOX will say “sashi sugi”
No matter the past

Dollhouse is burnt toast
Truly a dead doll walking
Unless Garrett lives…

……this is Halloween
you can kill all the zombies
but there’s always more

Great point, except for the fact that your info is completely wrong and that totally invalidates the point that you were trying to make.

Dushku had a deal with Fox and went to lunch with Whedon and together they created the show. I would guess that Whedon did most or all of the work, but there is no denying the fact that Dushku chose Whedon, not the other way around.

tscc would not have come back any better than it was at the end of last year. everyone was bailing on the show.

fox made a call .. and if they had to do it over again they would probably make the same call.

And people love Summer Glau because she’s awesome. I can’t think of a single time she’s ever turned in a bad performance, on anything. She throws herself into every role 110%. She’s a unique talent.

They started shooting Episode 8 this week, so if Fox is committed to wait until at least Episode 5 airs in 3 weeks then the cast and crew should be able to complete Episodes 8 & 9 and hopefully get a start on 10. That’s a good head start in case the worst happens and leaves me more hopeful that at a minimum all 13 will be produced.

You can’t polish a turd.

A friggin’ 1.0 from last week’s 0.8 …whoop-dee-do !!

“Dollhouse” and “Brothers” numbers are awful … FOX may as well show re-runs of “My Mother The Car”…couldn’t do much worse…and would cost a whole lot less…

Face it…we have a combination of two factors:

1- Todays TV exec is “clueless”
2- They may as well manage for margins not ratings…

Not only is the Fall Slate of new shows awful…bonehead couch potatoes would rather be texting, surfing youtube, talk mindlessly on their cell phone for hours, etc. then watch the new current glut of slop.

“Some Soaps tear up Friday Shows. Y&R had a 1.7 demo rating in 18-49 Sept. 28- Oct. 2, while Dollhouse and Smallville including others, have far less and that’s Daytime!”

That’s women 18-49. The only comparison ready to hand is W18-34 versus the CW.

And soaps are dying but Primetime shows can die alot faster!

FOX fridays are crap.
NBC improving- I can L&O shoot over 8 million soon.
ABC still in repeats.
CBS is again on top.

“what numbers do you use? dollhouse s1 ratings….”

Those are household numbers.

“My point is that Dollhouse this season s far worse than TSCC and Dollhouse last season,”

That is certainly true.

“which means Dollhouse is getting CANNED cuz it almost got canned after last season anyway, and those numbers were better than these”.

Not necessarily. The numbers are definitely not good and I would not at all be surprised if it were canceled, but those numbers were from last Season and many shows this Season are bringing lower numbers than they did last year, at least so far. Further, DH was quite a bit more expensive last year. This year is both cut it’s costs and Fox Studios also agreed to charge the Fox Network less for the show. Given that, it’s current numbers are still not enough to give it a renewal, but if it can continue to build a bit more, then it may have a chance.

“I don’t know how you can say TSCC went up against Dollhouse, they were on at different times and TSCC served as a lead-in for Dollhouse. Once TSCC finished it’s run at 1.3, Dollhouse crashed and burned and is still crashing and burning… HARD.”

You were the one that introduced T:SCC into the discussion. I agree that there is not a perfect way to compare them but think that the only way to do so is by looking at them when they were on the same night. It’s true that DH declined after T:SCC finished, but what other factors might have been a play there? And do we have any reason to suspect that T:SCC would not have experienced similar declines?

Whatever arguments can be made, I continue to find the fact that on the same nights, DH consistently did better in the ratings, to be the most compelling argument supporting Fox’s reasoning.

And is it continuing to crash and burn? Based on last week’s numbers then that seemed to be the case, but considering that it went up this week then it appears to be leveling off and perhaps is on the upswing?

I use the numbers from this site. What numbers do you use?

what numbers do you use? dollhouse s1 ratings:

1-12

4,760 2.8 5
4,250 2.7 5
4,181 2.7 5
3,572 2.2 4
4,258 2.5 4
4,136 2.6 5
3,859 2.4 4
3,435 2.2 4
3,503 2.2 4
2,920 1.9 3
3,062 1.9 3
2,700 1.7 3

You could give the Republicans lessons on how to defeat your own objectives.

Good actor–who deserves better than Dollhouse.

None of the ‘dolls’ are headed for stardom.

And the much-touted Summer Glau, having failed to make it on her own, is headed back to the Joss-house in a few weeks.

Just in time to have it fall down on her.

But she’s used to that.