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Also, Seidman please edit and watch your grammar.
Oh, I mean watch you’re grammer.

But judging from the photo in this article, am I right in seeing that Claire has now been given a lesbian storyline?

Oh brother….A perfect sign that a show is losing steam…the requisite post-jumped-the-shark “lesbian kiss” episode.

They did it on Roseanne, they did it on Friends and now they’re doing it on Heroes.

And you can’t say it’s not a gimmick because no network TV show has ever had one of their male straight characters kiss another man for ratings.

I hope it picks up, cause its getting really good.

Oh, they did. Problem is, they considered “lesbian kiss with Hayden Panettiere” to be “something big”. They did promote the hell out of it. How many interviews did Hayden give, talking about the kiss and the relationship? How many promo trailers featured the scene?
The problem is that Heroes’ creators have clearly lost touch with their fanbase. They’ve screwed up with Season 3 by making a bunch of inane plot decisions, destroying all inner logic their show possessed, and haven’t even attempted to turn the ship around this season – instead, they pile on more twists and mythologies, and try to distract the viewers with stunt-casting, lesbian kisses and an overload of Zachary Quinto and Hayden Panettiere, even though most people got sick of these two people and their forces central position some time during the previous season.

Shut up everyone who says Heroes should be cancel!!!

someone knows the sales of season 1 and season 2 dvds?

They need to do something big, and promote the hell out of it to get some people back on board-

Still undecided if i want a 5th season- I like the show a lot- But only if its going to get better- If not i would be satisfied with it wrapping up with the 4th season-

I went into a store the other day, in the DVD charts, Heroes s3 was number 1 while House was being sold off cheap.

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OK, probably not, but maybe on Fox.

Unfortunately, plenty of online links appear almost instantaneously after an episode. Most remarkable is how high definition of it all is – It’s even better quality than waiting for the broadcast over here. The main problem is that it’s months between the original airing and the ones in Europe. It’s not that we want to hurt the network or cancel any shows, it’s that those media are STILL not accepting that these mediums have CHANGED and do not offer us any way of watching.

I would gladly go through a couple of minutes of ads to be able to stream Heroes when it goes on-air in USA, for instance, but as it stands, the only option open is to watch it ‘illegally’. Judging by those numbers nvl throws up for a country like Belgium, you can have a guess how many watch on TV and how many online, eh?

Torchwood gets better ratings than Heroes on RTL2 because it’s a better show.

Heroes jumped the shark after season 1 and it’s never improved – it needs to be cancelled at this point.

In The Netherlands Heroes is even smaller , last two seasons were broadcast in the summer entirely because it is cheaper to show series in the summer.

There’s a question of whether international licensing is what it used to be, given that diehard fans will seek out digital sources for the US first-runs if there’s any kind of gap between broadcast in their home countries — not for nefarious reasons, but in order to avoid online spoilage, or to participate in fan discussions. (You’ll even find fan-generated subtitled versions for non-English audiences.) With the splintering of audiences across multiple platforms, the period of cable/sat nets abroad thinking that they’d trumped OTA opposition by getting the first-runs in their domestic markets has passed, and public service broadcasters (i.e. BBC) would sooner export formats than pay what they used to for US drama.

As for HEROES, I think it’s done after this season, especially if it keeps getting pasted by HOUSE.

NBC really needs to clean house and start again. Save The Biggest Loser, The Office, 30 Rock & SVU, and try again. It’s got very little to lose at this point. It could air Dateline across the board and get similar ratings to what it’s getting now. Before the season, I didn’t think that JL would be a big disaster for them, and I was kind of right – it’s hovering slight above expectations. But the rest of the line-up – wow! Come March and April, during the heavy repeat season, we’re going to see NBC losing to Univision in demos – perhaps in the mid 1.0s.

I think Community actually fits that description well, it has a very strong cast and is very well-written. It did well when it was after The Office, it just got shoved to the lonely 8:00 slot way, waaay too early. With some seasoning from The Office I think Community could have been a real hit. They should have moved 30 Rock to 8:00 or 8:30 instead, that show has had enough seasoning and can stand on its own two feet now I think.

But yeah the way I see it, it’s key to keep Leno during an overhaul, as it maintains a steady inflow of cash without much work, and that eases the transition stage. Now they only have two hours a night to rebuild, three hours all at once is too much. And unlike, say, turning 10PM over to the affiliates, it’s very much reversible in the future, so if they got 8-10 back up to snuff they can venture back into the 10PM hour.

I’m not sure how these things work (read: I have no clue if NBC can fire Kring/change his position), but I’ve been in the work world long enough to know that people who go through underlings like toiler paper constantly claim “it was everyone else’s fault” are usually the root of the problem. Heroes isn’t going to get better until he’s gone, although it might be too late to save at this point.

Pairing J.J. Abrams’ new show with Chuck would be a far better fit than Heroes. Pairing two same-genre shows on the same night would NOT be too much, as they are likely to have the same audience anyway, so one leading in to the other would be of far greater benefit to both.

Heroes (Mid-Season Only)
Law & Order
Law & Order:SVU
The Office
30 Rock
See how the Mid-Season Shows do
Pick The BEST out of 10/11 Pilots and as what Julia said…PROMOTE THE HELL OUT OF THEM.If that doesn`t happen…i will admit that NBC is dead.

Or so I hope, anyway. Used to be a major fan, now the show is just painful.

I do hope they can turn the tide but I suspect it will be hard to keep the show fresh having already pulled that many upsets they would have to reinvent/adjust the premise pretty soon.

I must point something out when t comes to the cost. The CW Smallville cost 3.5 million to produce per episode but they are still airing the show for years and it’s not canceled. I am guessing with the budget cuts Heroes has similar costs probably even cheaper. So if Smallville makes profit with his ratings Heroes can do the same thing too. I don’t think the profit is going to bee the issue for Heroes (not to forget Dollhouse is making profit too even with does ratings).

The only thing that can crush Heroes is the ratings. If they stabilize NBC will probably keep it.

First, if we look at Tim Kring’s record, before he was in Heroes, he was in two medical shows: Providence (as a co-executive producer) and Crossing Jordan (as a creator and executive producer). Can anyone tell me how both of those shows fared? I know Crossing Jordan started off well, yet was canceled and ended on a sour cliffhanger note. Should we expect the same thing with Heroes? Your guess is as good as mine.

Then, we need to look at the companies looking to buy a majority stake in NBC Universal. This includes Comcast, Liberty Media, and possibly News Corp. owning 51% of NBC Universal. Although this is not final, if this goes through, there could be a major shake-up in the works. That would probably mean trouble for Heroes in terms of renewal. At least, that’s what can happen if Heroes continues to drop in ratings.