Comments on: Fringe: Down, But Not Out? http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:39:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-3/#comment-146929 Dan Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:38:52 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-146929 FOX here's an idea, instead of airing Til Death repeats sundays, air original Seaosn 3 episodes, you can burn them off and because their new episodes maybe they can generate interest. FOX here’s an idea, instead of airing Til Death repeats sundays, air original Seaosn 3 episodes, you can burn them off and because their new episodes maybe they can generate interest.

]]> By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-146924 Dan Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:31:46 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-146924 Audrey - Im pretty sure Fringe has 22 episodes. Im sure its safe for a third year. FOX is really trying to develop dramas and with powerhouses Bones and House doing great for the network, they are trying their best to save Fringe and Lie to Me so I dont think FOX would want to dump either this quickly. I strongly think Fringe willl get a third year. Freshman Glee and Cleveland are already getting second years (though Glee isnt confirmed). FOX has everything for fall set, with DOllhouse and Brothers given end dates, all they have to do is format their midseason schedule. Mondays (House/24), Tuesdays (Idol/TBA), Wednesdays (Idol/Human Target and Glee), Thursdays (Bones/Fringe) and Sundays (Simpsons/Cleveland/Family Guy/American Dad) are already in place, FOX just needs to figure out fridays from Jan 29-May and Tuesdays post Idol slot. Audrey – Im pretty sure Fringe has 22 episodes. Im sure its safe for a third year. FOX is really trying to develop dramas and with powerhouses Bones and House doing great for the network, they are trying their best to save Fringe and Lie to Me so I dont think FOX would want to dump either this quickly. I strongly think Fringe willl get a third year. Freshman Glee and Cleveland are already getting second years (though Glee isnt confirmed). FOX has everything for fall set, with DOllhouse and Brothers given end dates, all they have to do is format their midseason schedule. Mondays (House/24), Tuesdays (Idol/TBA), Wednesdays (Idol/Human Target and Glee), Thursdays (Bones/Fringe) and Sundays (Simpsons/Cleveland/Family Guy/American Dad) are already in place, FOX just needs to figure out fridays from Jan 29-May and Tuesdays post Idol slot.

]]> By: luvmygrys http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-145999 luvmygrys Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:47:18 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-145999 I like Fringe and watch it weekly so I hope it doesn't get cancelled. I like Fringe and watch it weekly so I hope it doesn’t get cancelled.

]]> By: Wendy http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-144831 Wendy Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:49:08 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-144831 Just move it back to Tuesday since it's a wasteland. Just move it back to Tuesday since it’s a wasteland.

]]> By: randy http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-143791 randy Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:32:30 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-143791 I just don't see Fox cancelling Fringe. It has a loyal fan base that's fairly large. The numbers for that time period are better than last year. It also does well on DVR viewership. More importantly, I think Fox is happy with the quality of the show and sees potential for it to be a money maker in the cable/syndication market. I just don’t see Fox cancelling Fringe. It has a loyal fan base that’s fairly large. The numbers for that time period are better than last year. It also does well on DVR viewership. More importantly, I think Fox is happy with the quality of the show and sees potential for it to be a money maker in the cable/syndication market.

]]> By: Don http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-143638 Don Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:53:39 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-143638 Fringe needs to be moved out of Thursday night regarding the 8/9 slot. CSI might have ticked down a bit but its still strong. Grey is strong with young females. The Office is also still doing well with the young demos. Just too much aggressive competition for the night. Fringe needs to be moved out of Thursday. Might have done better on Monday night after House, since Lie To Me is modest but nothing to crow about and I kind of enjoy Lie To Me. Needs an Idol boost again. Don't give it over to another Sci-Fi show.. Glee could work either the competion or the results show of Idol. Fringe needs to be moved out of Thursday night regarding the 8/9 slot. CSI might have ticked down a bit but its still strong. Grey is strong with young females. The Office is also still doing well with the young demos. Just too much aggressive competition for the night.

Fringe needs to be moved out of Thursday. Might have done better on Monday night after House, since Lie To Me is modest but nothing to crow about and I kind of enjoy Lie To Me. Needs an Idol boost again. Don’t give it over to another Sci-Fi show.. Glee could work either the competion or the results show of Idol.

]]> By: nkinsey http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-143542 nkinsey Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:34:31 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-143542 Check out all networks. They are ALL "top-heavy" because that's when there are more eyeballs on TVs. Check out all networks. They are ALL “top-heavy” because that’s when there are more eyeballs on TVs.

]]> By: cress http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-143409 cress Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:24:45 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-143409 Put one of the American Idols on Thursdays. This will effectively kill CSI, which I stopped watching three years ago because it just got old(and I use to love this series). It will put a dent into Greys Lobotomys' numbers. This will give Fox momentum going into the weekend with their shows. They are "top-heavy" at the beginning of the week. And someone in the Fox executive suite should seriously consider a GOOD comedy series, not crap like Brothers or Til Death. Put one of the American Idols on Thursdays. This will effectively kill CSI, which I stopped watching three years ago because it just got old(and I use to love this series). It will put a dent into Greys Lobotomys’ numbers. This will give Fox momentum going into the weekend with their shows. They are “top-heavy” at the beginning of the week. And someone in the Fox executive suite should seriously consider a GOOD comedy series, not crap like Brothers or Til Death.

]]> By: Bad Robot http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-143313 Bad Robot Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:18:56 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-143313 Fringe is in a tough time slot. Going against CSI, Greys and the Office aint easy. If the ratings slowly start to rise, it will get a Season 3. If it stays around current levels, its 50-50. If it falls under 6 million its probably dead. They may try moving it in the Spring if they really want it to succeed. Fringe is in a tough time slot. Going against CSI, Greys and the Office aint easy. If the ratings slowly start to rise, it will get a Season 3. If it stays around current levels, its 50-50. If it falls under 6 million its probably dead.

They may try moving it in the Spring if they really want it to succeed.

]]> By: nkinsey http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-143276 nkinsey Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:42:12 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-143276 Nick- Don't listen to these naysayers. Fringe is fine. It's all about marketshare, and FOX is succeeding this season, with Fringe's help. If anything, FOX may ask them to not be so expensive; but other than budget cuts, they need this show where it is. FOX does itself no favors to keep flip-flopping Thursday @ 9 shows. It needs something stable, and with Bones as an amazing lead-in, they are going to want to keep that lineup for at leas another year. Nick- Don’t listen to these naysayers. Fringe is fine. It’s all about marketshare, and FOX is succeeding this season, with Fringe’s help. If anything, FOX may ask them to not be so expensive; but other than budget cuts, they need this show where it is. FOX does itself no favors to keep flip-flopping Thursday @ 9 shows. It needs something stable, and with Bones as an amazing lead-in, they are going to want to keep that lineup for at leas another year.

]]> By: Nick http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-143184 Nick Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:12:34 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-143184 I don't think Fringe will necessarily get cancelled. The show has JJ Abrams name attached to it and I don't think the network will cancel it unless virtually no one is watching it. That's just my take. I love the show so I hope it doesn't get an NBC premature death. I don’t think Fringe will necessarily get cancelled. The show has JJ Abrams name attached to it and I don’t think the network will cancel it unless virtually no one is watching it. That’s just my take. I love the show so I hope it doesn’t get an NBC premature death.

]]> By: nkinsey http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-143111 nkinsey Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:53:03 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-143111 FOX has learned quite a bit ago that a show premiering after AI doesn't guarantee a hit. Look at Wedding Bells, New Amsterdam, etc. Both shows got an initial premiere after Idol, and both tanked. That said, they know keeping PROMISING shows (not always NEW shows) after Idol translates to longer success. So I would be looking at Glee staying put, and Lie to Me getting a post Idol slot after the new shows few episodes air (if they all do, which is assuming a lot). FOX will NOT move House to Fridays. Nu uh, no way. Not original eps at least (they had MASSIVE success during the strike on Fridays with House reruns). Same goes with Bones. For the first 2-3 seasons, they kept threatening moving it to Fridays mid-season, but never did. Now that the show is proving to be VERY solid on Thursdays, don't look for it to go anywhere. FOX has learned quite a bit ago that a show premiering after AI doesn’t guarantee a hit. Look at Wedding Bells, New Amsterdam, etc. Both shows got an initial premiere after Idol, and both tanked. That said, they know keeping PROMISING shows (not always NEW shows) after Idol translates to longer success. So I would be looking at Glee staying put, and Lie to Me getting a post Idol slot after the new shows few episodes air (if they all do, which is assuming a lot).

FOX will NOT move House to Fridays. Nu uh, no way. Not original eps at least (they had MASSIVE success during the strike on Fridays with House reruns).

Same goes with Bones. For the first 2-3 seasons, they kept threatening moving it to Fridays mid-season, but never did. Now that the show is proving to be VERY solid on Thursdays, don’t look for it to go anywhere.

]]> By: ABCFanatic2009 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-143042 ABCFanatic2009 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:00:37 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-143042 I don't think Fringe will get a 3rd season I don’t think Fringe will get a 3rd season

]]> By: Audrey http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-142970 Audrey Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:40:34 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142970 How many episode of Fringe has FOX ordered? How many episode of Fringe has FOX ordered?

]]> By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-142966 Dan Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:34:32 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142966 Mumbo - Past Life's order being cut may not be a good sign. FOX also may be hesitant to launch 2 new dramas in the post Idol slots. While Human Target has a premiere date, Past Life is only tentatively scheduled for Tuesdays at 9. My bet is that Past Life will begin airing on Fridays (liekly paired with Lie to Me) A likely series for the tuesday post Idol slot would be Hell's Kitchen. FOX could always make for a double Gordan Ramsey fridays and air Hell's Kitchen at 8 and Kicthen Nightmares at 9, but airing Hell's on fridays would hurt the series, but FOX could care less about Nightamres however. Around a few more weeks until FOX announces Midseason. Mumbo – Past Life’s order being cut may not be a good sign. FOX also may be hesitant to launch 2 new dramas in the post Idol slots. While Human Target has a premiere date, Past Life is only tentatively scheduled for Tuesdays at 9. My bet is that Past Life will begin airing on Fridays (liekly paired with Lie to Me) A likely series for the tuesday post Idol slot would be Hell’s Kitchen. FOX could always make for a double Gordan Ramsey fridays and air Hell’s Kitchen at 8 and Kicthen Nightmares at 9, but airing Hell’s on fridays would hurt the series, but FOX could care less about Nightamres however. Around a few more weeks until FOX announces Midseason.

]]> By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-142963 Dan Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:30:27 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142963 Here's my schedule Mondays 8:00 House 9:00 24 Tuesdays 8:00 American Idol 9:00 Hell's Kitchen (February-May) Wednesdays 8:00 American Idol 9:00 Human Target(Jan-March)/Glee (April-May) Thursdays 8:00 Bones 9:00 Fringe Fridays 8:00 Lie to Me (Jan-April)/Past Life(April-May) 9:00 Kitchen Nightmares Sundays 7:00 Til Death 7:30 American Dad 8:00 The Simpsons 8:30 Sons of Tucson 9:00 Family Guy 9:30 The Cleveland Show FOX has 2 new Hell's Kitchen seasons, so its likely they will stick that on Tuesdays at 9 after Idol. Past Life has a 7 episode order and its highly unlikely to air Tuesdays post Idol so my guess is maybe Fridays at 8 around March. With no other slots available, its highly likely that Lie to Me gets moved to Fridays at 8 in place of the comedies. FOX can stick a new season of Kitchen Nightmares Fridays at 9 to fill the Dollhouse void. As previously announced by FOX, Mondays and Thursdays should stay as planned and Human Target/Glee should share the post Idol wednesday. With the new Sons of Tucson, sundays should be as FOX's original midseason with the likely addition of burn off Til Death. Here’s my schedule

Mondays
8:00 House
9:00 24

Tuesdays
8:00 American Idol
9:00 Hell’s Kitchen (February-May)

Wednesdays
8:00 American Idol
9:00 Human Target(Jan-March)/Glee (April-May)

Thursdays
8:00 Bones
9:00 Fringe

Fridays
8:00 Lie to Me (Jan-April)/Past Life(April-May)
9:00 Kitchen Nightmares

Sundays
7:00 Til Death
7:30 American Dad
8:00 The Simpsons
8:30 Sons of Tucson
9:00 Family Guy
9:30 The Cleveland Show

FOX has 2 new Hell’s Kitchen seasons, so its likely they will stick that on Tuesdays at 9 after Idol. Past Life has a 7 episode order and its highly unlikely to air Tuesdays post Idol so my guess is maybe Fridays at 8 around March. With no other slots available, its highly likely that Lie to Me gets moved to Fridays at 8 in place of the comedies. FOX can stick a new season of Kitchen Nightmares Fridays at 9 to fill the Dollhouse void. As previously announced by FOX, Mondays and Thursdays should stay as planned and Human Target/Glee should share the post Idol wednesday. With the new Sons of Tucson, sundays should be as FOX’s original midseason with the likely addition of burn off Til Death.

]]> By: zeker http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-142934 zeker Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:02:42 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142934 Fair enough. Thanks. Fair enough. Thanks.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-142874 Bill Gorman Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:32:33 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142874 zeker, re: up arrow/down arrow. Still possible, considering alternatives on how/if to do it, but no promises. zeker, re: up arrow/down arrow. Still possible, considering alternatives on how/if to do it, but no promises.

]]> By: Mumbo http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-142823 Mumbo Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:29:30 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142823 ^^^They won't move House off Monday, or Bones to Friday for that matter. Past Life is getting the Tuesday post-Idol slot (I'm assuming Past Life is having a short first season, since Idol on Tuesday is two hours most of the time) and Human Target the Wednesday post-Idol from January to March, with Glee taking that slot back March to May. I think Fringe's numbers aren't weak enough for a cancellation per se, but they may change their strategy. Cut down from a 22 episode season to a 13-16 episode one, and run it continuously either in the fall or in the midseason. That way it can kind of share a timeslot with another middling show. But I think Fox's schedule is too crowded to have Fringe take up a full season slot anymore, with those weak numbers. It could keep Thursday at 9 in the fall, run continuously like I said, and then Hell's Kitchen gets that slot midseason, where it did so well last year. ^^^They won’t move House off Monday, or Bones to Friday for that matter.

Past Life is getting the Tuesday post-Idol slot (I’m assuming Past Life is having a short first season, since Idol on Tuesday is two hours most of the time) and Human Target the Wednesday post-Idol from January to March, with Glee taking that slot back March to May.

I think Fringe’s numbers aren’t weak enough for a cancellation per se, but they may change their strategy. Cut down from a 22 episode season to a 13-16 episode one, and run it continuously either in the fall or in the midseason. That way it can kind of share a timeslot with another middling show.

But I think Fox’s schedule is too crowded to have Fringe take up a full season slot anymore, with those weak numbers. It could keep Thursday at 9 in the fall, run continuously like I said, and then Hell’s Kitchen gets that slot midseason, where it did so well last year.

]]> By: zeker http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-142820 zeker Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:25:24 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142820 I don't want to be that jerky guy who complains about the way people run a website that I don't pay for :-) but... Back when the R/C index cane out this season there was talk in one of the threads that we could get a "trending up / trending down" arrow to show the trajectory of a show. There is a big different between a 0.8 or .9 on the way up and that same number but trending down. Ever since my hopes got raised by the creators of the site on that thread I have eagerly anticipated (for the past two weeks) seeing this indicator in the R/C index. Again, I don't mean to complain about the fantastic service and website you guys are providing me for free, but any word on the rollout of this feature? I don’t want to be that jerky guy who complains about the way people run a website that I don’t pay for :-)

but…

Back when the R/C index cane out this season there was talk in one of the threads that we could get a “trending up / trending down” arrow to show the trajectory of a show. There is a big different between a 0.8 or .9 on the way up and that same number but trending down.

Ever since my hopes got raised by the creators of the site on that thread I have eagerly anticipated (for the past two weeks) seeing this indicator in the R/C index.

Again, I don’t mean to complain about the fantastic service and website you guys are providing me for free, but any word on the rollout of this feature?

]]> By: Cody http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-142813 Cody Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:15:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142813 I think for the winter FOX can be placed over the top if they use this schedule Monday 24 Lie to me Tuesday American Idol Glee Wedensday American Idol Fringe Thursday House New Show Friday Bones HK I think for the winter FOX can be placed over the top if they use this schedule
Monday
24
Lie to me

Tuesday
American Idol
Glee

Wedensday
American Idol
Fringe

Thursday
House
New Show

Friday
Bones
HK

]]> By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-2/#comment-142786 Dan Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:43:17 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142786 My guess on cancellations Dollhouse will air out all 13 episodes (probably doubling up some fridays) and end on December 18 or January 8. Brothers will air out all 13 episodes and likely finish on December 11. Til Death will likely shift to sundays at 7, to burn off its remaining fourth season. With these three cancellations FOX has room for a couple of dramas on fridays at 8 and 9. Likely candidates are Lie to Me, Past Life and Kicthen Nightmares. My guess on cancellations

Dollhouse will air out all 13 episodes (probably doubling up some fridays) and end on December 18 or January 8.
Brothers will air out all 13 episodes and likely finish on December 11.
Til Death will likely shift to sundays at 7, to burn off its remaining fourth season.

With these three cancellations FOX has room for a couple of dramas on fridays at 8 and 9. Likely candidates are Lie to Me, Past Life and Kicthen Nightmares.

]]> By: Dan http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142782 Dan Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:39:02 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142782 Looks like this is the first fall in possibly ever where FOX hasnt pulled or cancelled any series. There are candidates (Dollhouse and Brothers) but it seems FOX likes both series enough to atleast burn off all 13 episodes, and Til Death will survive just because of syndication. New drama Glee has been given a full year, as well as sophomore Fringe and likely Lie to Me. FOX has found success with SYTYCD airing fall, as well as their Monday/Thursday drama combos and Sunday animated block. This looks like FOX's best fall performance in a while. Rich - Thats true, FOX is trying to develop a new single camera comedy by convienently sandwiching it between The Simpsons and Family Guy, pushing Cleveland to 9:30 and switching American Dad to 7:30. Like how Malcolm in the Middle fit in with the other comedies on sunday, Sons has similiar humor to the animated series. Looks like this is the first fall in possibly ever where FOX hasnt pulled or cancelled any series. There are candidates (Dollhouse and Brothers) but it seems FOX likes both series enough to atleast burn off all 13 episodes, and Til Death will survive just because of syndication. New drama Glee has been given a full year, as well as sophomore Fringe and likely Lie to Me. FOX has found success with SYTYCD airing fall, as well as their Monday/Thursday drama combos and Sunday animated block. This looks like FOX’s best fall performance in a while.

Rich – Thats true, FOX is trying to develop a new single camera comedy by convienently sandwiching it between The Simpsons and Family Guy, pushing Cleveland to 9:30 and switching American Dad to 7:30. Like how Malcolm in the Middle fit in with the other comedies on sunday, Sons has similiar humor to the animated series.

]]> By: MAK http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142777 MAK Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:34:23 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142777 @Theoacme You're right. "House" is produced by NBC Universal Media Studios and yet it's doing better than any NBC show. @Theoacme

You’re right. “House” is produced by NBC Universal Media Studios and yet it’s doing better than any NBC show.

]]> By: chet http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142775 chet Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:33:50 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142775 FOX knew they put it in the firing line when they put FRINGE on thursdays Be a shame to cancel it when they knew the numbers wouldnt be favorable. The only worse thing they could have done is put it on fridays and put it in the grave early this way its just slower i really like this show its very x filesesque i hope it keeps goin like castle FOX knew they put it in the firing line when they put FRINGE on thursdays
Be a shame to cancel it when they knew the numbers wouldnt be favorable.
The only worse thing they could have done is put it on fridays and put it in the grave early
this way its just slower
i really like this show its very x filesesque
i hope it keeps goin like castle

]]> By: rich http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142761 rich Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:21:10 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142761 David, AD is moving to 7:30 in the new year replaced by Sons of Tucsons, Fox annouced this is May. David, AD is moving to 7:30 in the new year replaced by Sons of Tucsons, Fox annouced this is May.

]]> By: JaySin23 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142737 JaySin23 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:05:26 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142737 Do the added dvr ratings mean anything to the future of fringe? Why don't they just move it to any night other than thursday? Do the added dvr ratings mean anything to the future of fringe? Why don’t they just move it to any night other than thursday?

]]> By: bot d00d http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142705 bot d00d Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:35:31 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142705 What would its index value be if those bottom three weren't factored in. What would its index value be if those bottom three weren’t factored in.

]]> By: David R http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142693 David R Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:21:47 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142693 @Dennis: Where has it been said that American Dad! is being moved? @Dennis:

Where has it been said that American Dad! is being moved?

]]> By: Fê, São Pulo - Brasil http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142687 Fê, São Pulo - Brasil Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:18:51 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142687 Fringe, não concordo com a Fox de colocar essa série às quinta-feira, está caindo muito a audiência, porém acredito sim que a série será renovada para 2010-2011 Go Fringe!! Fringe, não concordo com a Fox de colocar essa série às quinta-feira, está caindo muito a audiência, porém acredito sim que a série será renovada para 2010-2011

Go Fringe!!

]]> By: Theoacme http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142635 Theoacme Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:37:52 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142635 It's interesting that the best success NBCU has had for several years is here on FOX, isn't it :D It’s interesting that the best success NBCU has had for several years is here on FOX, isn’t it :D

]]> By: Tom http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142607 Tom Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:15:23 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142607 Not surprised by that AD news - look back months ago and I thought any CS success would lead to AD's departure. (Disclaimer: I (along with most TV critics I've read) prefer AD over the rest of the MacFarlane shows. That still doesn't make it likelier to live.) And again, Fringe's survival (and timeslot) is a complicated mix of 24, Lie To Me, Human Target, and Past Life's chances in Spring 10 & Fall 10. It probably gets a third season, but I'm not putting money on it. Not surprised by that AD news – look back months ago and I thought any CS success would lead to AD’s departure. (Disclaimer: I (along with most TV critics I’ve read) prefer AD over the rest of the MacFarlane shows. That still doesn’t make it likelier to live.)

And again, Fringe’s survival (and timeslot) is a complicated mix of 24, Lie To Me, Human Target, and Past Life’s chances in Spring 10 & Fall 10. It probably gets a third season, but I’m not putting money on it.

]]> By: Julia http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142583 Julia Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:04:18 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142583 Antonio, there has only been one new episode of Brothers aired on Sunday, and in the finals it was at 0.8, just like on Friday. Antonio, there has only been one new episode of Brothers aired on Sunday, and in the finals it was at 0.8, just like on Friday.

]]> By: olddarth http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142581 olddarth Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:02:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142581 I like this show. I like this show.

]]> By: Marekzn http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142579 Marekzn Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:59:10 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142579 Bones were renewed for two more seasons last year, so is there a possibility that it won't be coming back next year? and if there is (there probably is) possibility it won't, how bad it has to do rating wise to be canceled? Bones were renewed for two more seasons last year, so is there a possibility that it won’t be coming back next year? and if there is (there probably is) possibility it won’t, how bad it has to do rating wise to be canceled?

]]> By: antonio http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142524 antonio Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:19:18 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142524 you are not considering the all new episodes of brothers that fox airs sunday's at 7pm, which actually get arround 1.7 points you are not considering the all new episodes of brothers that fox airs sunday’s at 7pm, which actually get arround 1.7 points

]]> By: nkinsey http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142522 nkinsey Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:18:11 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142522 I don't think moving it to 7:30 means it's dead. American Dad is pretty much recycled Family Guy jokes, so I'm sure it isn't expensive to make. I HIGHLY doubt Brothers will get a back 9 order. Look for its initial run to be it for the show. For FOX, all your red shows are the ones that WILL NOT make it past this season. Not worried at all about Fringe. It's all about stealing market share, not being #1 (or #2-3 either). FOX is jumping for joy this season. November books have always been horrible. I don’t think moving it to 7:30 means it’s dead. American Dad is pretty much recycled Family Guy jokes, so I’m sure it isn’t expensive to make.

I HIGHLY doubt Brothers will get a back 9 order. Look for its initial run to be it for the show.

For FOX, all your red shows are the ones that WILL NOT make it past this season.

Not worried at all about Fringe. It’s all about stealing market share, not being #1 (or #2-3 either). FOX is jumping for joy this season. November books have always been horrible.

]]> By: Dennis http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142515 Dennis Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:13:39 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142515 "Too bad FOX has decided to kill American Dad. They’re moving it to 7:30 mid-season." Yeah, and they ar currently producing two new animated shows, so RIP American Dad. By far the best Seth show. “Too bad FOX has decided to kill American Dad. They’re moving it to 7:30 mid-season.”

Yeah, and they ar currently producing two new animated shows, so RIP American Dad. By far the best Seth show.

]]> By: mayorofsmpleton http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142513 mayorofsmpleton Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:11:07 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142513 I think it gets a pass unless the ratings sink further. It's going to last until at least the 3rd season, but beyond that who knows. FOX is in a tricky situation. It could toss it to Friday which would spell death pretty much immediately, but aside from that there aren't many other timeslots available. I think it gets a pass unless the ratings sink further. It’s going to last until at least the 3rd season, but beyond that who knows. FOX is in a tricky situation. It could toss it to Friday which would spell death pretty much immediately, but aside from that there aren’t many other timeslots available.

]]> By: thirdsaint http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142512 thirdsaint Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:10:33 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142512 I'm sure they will use that line eventually but for now I think it's too early to tell. With it being a JJ show in a tough slot with a good amount of fans still watching on DVR I hope it'll all be enough. I’m sure they will use that line eventually but for now I think it’s too early to tell. With it being a JJ show in a tough slot with a good amount of fans still watching on DVR I hope it’ll all be enough.

]]> By: johnthemon http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142507 johnthemon Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:09:33 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142507 Too bad FOX has decided to kill American Dad. They're moving it to 7:30 mid-season. Too bad FOX has decided to kill American Dad. They’re moving it to 7:30 mid-season.

]]> By: Aardvark7734 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030/comment-page-1/#comment-142488 Aardvark7734 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:58:58 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/20/fringe-down-but-not-out/31030#comment-142488 I can't believe your headline didn't incorporate wordplay. Here's a show called Fringe and it's on the fringe of being cancelled. I mean, c'mon. :) I can’t believe your headline didn’t incorporate wordplay. Here’s a show called Fringe and it’s on the fringe of being cancelled. I mean, c’mon. :)

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