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Sons of Anarchy creator likes Chuck, Glee and Jay Leno; explains why most scripted network dramas suck

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October 28th, 2009

Anyone who is a fan of Sons of Anarchy will not be at all surprised to find that creator and executive produce Kurt Sutter can write a little bit.  He's a great blogger, too.  Even if you're not a fan of SOA, if you're a fan of TV you will find some of his posts very interesting.

Last week when the media focused on Sons Of Anarchy beating The Jay Leno Show with adults 18-49, I was a little irked. I understand why that was the story, but it bothered me because rather than it being a story about the success of SOA, it was a story about the failure of Jay Leno and NBC.

The coverage got Sutter a bit fired up and led to a couple of blog posts.  The first one was on the topic of why most scripted network shows suck (if you're easily offended by colorful language, leave now!):

It's not an issue of scripted show vs. non-scripted shows. It's a question of process. The reason most network scripted dramas suck is because of the process. For the most part, you have a collection of young, half-bright development executives who wouldn’t know a good story idea if it set itself on fire and fucked their mothers while singing “Cheyenne Anthem” from Leftoverture. So they do what most chimpanzees do -- they ape and throw shit. Developing shows based on what they think people want to see. Churning out clones of semi-successful shows. Looking for a “hook” to market. It’s never about the story or characters. That would demand talent, patience and an open mind. Commodities that have long up and deserted ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and the CW.

(There are some exceptions. Chuck and Glee are all I can think of right now. In fact, that might be it... oh, and Lost, I love Lost)

Gone are the days of the TV visionary. Bochco, Kelley, Fontana, Sorkin, Milch, Wells, Wolf. These guys had fucking balls. They stood up to network fears and contradicting marketing strategies and pushed their vision forward. The result was great TV. It was great because the networks were smarter, they let the creatives DO THEIR FUCKING JOB. All those savvy executives have been replaced with accounting personnel. And when a network is inspired enough to hire a creative leader -- Reilly, Ligori -- they never give them a chance to flourish. It's a fucked up system that has created hours upon hours of dreck.

I'm sure that will strike a chord with almost everyone who reads this blog (except perhaps for the Suits and the one guy who chronically complains about Glee).   A few days later, Sutter wrote a more thoughtful post about his feelings on Jay Leno in a post titled "It Ain't Jay's Fault":

But my beef -- and I think this is true for a good chunk of the creative community -- was never with Jay. Leno's an artist looking for a good gig like the rest of us. The truth is, NBC should have NEVER bumped him out of the 11:30 spot. No one bumped out Carson. Why Jay? His ratings were solid, he had a loyal following and he was constantly doing what he could to keep his show fresh -- dude is one of the hardest working cats in town. And it's obvious Conan's "younger" humor works way better in the later hour. The bigger concern is the potential dangerous trend that NBC is setting by putting Jay in the 10 pm spot. As Peter Tolan said, "...NBC is raising the white flag", essentially giving up on scripted dramas. And why is that? For all the reason I've mentioned in the previous blog -- to succeed in dramas you need employees who are intelligent, patient and creatively nurturing. Instead of fixing their system, NBC is creating a new one. An easier one. A cheaper one. One that doesn't demand talent. One that can be run by suit-monkeys and accountants. That's the core fear we are all experiencing. We realize that public consumption is changing. We are the ones who created Jon and Kate, TMZ and the gangsta paparazzi. We are the ones veraciously consuming rag-mags and reality TV. Losing five hours of episodic television is the result of that trend. And we all know it ain't going away. It's growing.

At the end of the day, NBC's new system may work and the once last-place buffoons could become the simpleton champions of prime-time. And then we'll all be pitching gameshow ideas to Lord Zucker and the suit-monkeys of the dark empire. But until then, let's back off Jay and beat the right piñata. I won't say who that is, but I guarantee you, when he splits open, they'll be gold bullion and Universal stock options pouring out of his ass.

Particularly the bit about "we are the ones who created..." rings true for me, and he's right, it is a trend that isn't going away.  It's all part of the exact same trend that caused the media coverage to focus on the failure of The Jay Leno Show rather than the success of Sons Of Anarchy.  That's because in the attention economy "Jay Leno: Loser!" will attract far more eyeballs than "Awww shucks, look how well Sons Of Anarchy is doing!"

Though I included some choice excerpts, I couldn't capture all the goodness without copying the entire posts.  For those too lazy to scroll back up for the links: Why Most Network Scripted Dramas Suck and It Ain't Jay's Fault.

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  1. Michael J

    Colorful blogger isn’t he. ;)

  2. Neil G

    I just finding it amusing that the guy behind SoA likes Glee & Chuck.

    He writes a good blog but it’s not totally the execs fault. It’s not like they’re stood in 20million homes with a gun forcing people to watch NCIS or any of the other polished but unoriginal procedural dramas out there.

  3. Dingo

    I want a stick to whack at the pinata.

  4. anonymous

    Agree with Neil G. ;-)

  5. Michael J

    @Neil G

    But a portion of the fault does lay on the executives depending on the level of creative control they have over the writers. I’m not very familar with the process of writing/producing a show, but from what I do understand there is usually an advocacy/political process to getting to getting a script approved for a show. Depending on the willingness of the executives to be persuaded and the producer’s ability to advocate for a particular script, the blame so to speak does lie with the executives.

  6. jon

    I stayed up all night playing poker, I won’t act like this anymore, I’m done multiposting on your website. I was honest about Razorblade Suitcase though. It’s over.

  7. Neil G

    Micheal,

    I hear you. No doubt most of the garabage we produced can be blamed on the execs. I was just making the point that if we didn’t all seemingly love the empty calorie intake of mediocre procedurals then the network executives might give us something a bit more challenging.

  8. Kermonk

    Well there is a guy who doesn’t want to work for ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX or the CW again *g*

    (Your link is faulty btw)

    But it is their fault, if you don’t challenge the idiots the idiots become dumber. TV is probably the single most dangerous invention of the last century – it has the potential to devolve human brains, and the dumb don’t notice.

  9. Neil G

    Damn typos….delete the “we” in first line in my above comment.

  10. Pat

    I blame the viewing public. They would rather watch the familar, the the tried and true shows that aren’t challenging to the viewer. Shows you can watch while fixing dinner, while doing laundry and while cleaning uop and putting the kids to bed are popular right now. I won’t name those shows as I don’t want to offend anyone. But I don’t blame CBS for putting those shows on because that is what people want to watch evidently.

  11. olddarth

    Right on dude. Right on.

  12. tommy

    chuck is a soap opera.Writers use same stuffs in every season.This is why Chuck isn’t very successful.There is no difference between Chuck and Gossip Girl.

  13. Anonymous

    I couldn’t agree more about his comments regarding Jay Leno. There’s a lot of “JAY LENO” bashing, but most of people’s anger should be directed towards NBC for this change, and perhaps towards ourselves as well.

    I mean honestly, everyone is harping on and on about how NBC should put dramas in at 10pm….but over the past 3, 4, 5 years…NBC *HAS* done exactly that – and no one watches. We can’t fault NBC for not TRYING…they have tried….quite hard…but nothing seems to stick. I know people would probably say “oh, but their dramas suck”…but the QUALITY of NBC’s programming isn’t really that bad IMO. I suppose NBC could have kept trying and trying…but as Sutter says…NBC is trying a new system, one that is probably more in-tune with today’s popular culture and actually deals with TODAY’S reality head on (as opposed to ABC, who has 10pm failures almost across the board).

  14. @tommy

    It’s obvious you’ve never watched the show.

  15. johnthemon

    @Tommy, I agree with the 1337, but I’ll add one more thing.

    You’re an idiot.

    I’m surprised thsi guy likes Glee, I kind of think the idea came from the success of High School Musical. Luckily, they took it in a different direction, but it still seems like an attempt to cash in at points.

  16. idizzle

    So I am with him about the characters, but almost all really succesful shows are about the characters and whether they are about characters that solve one crime per week (NCIS), characters working in a hospital (House) or characters wading through the next chewed out SciFi clichee (Lost) isn’t really deciding whether they are good or not. It’s just deciding whether it may be up your personal alley more or less than something else. All these shows do have characters with growth though and as a rule of thumb even the dumbest audience will weed out the cardboard strawmen shows pretty soon. Well, except for CSI: New York. No idea, what anyone sees in that.

  17. Pat

    NBC three seasons ago had an excellent slate of new shows.

    30 Rock
    Friday Night Lights
    Kidnapped
    Heroes
    Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    Only Heroes was successful for about a season and a half. The other shows – were not watched by a lot of viewers. So do you blame NBC for that or the viewers for not watching. I blame the viewers. They choice to watch the 3rd L&O series and the third CSI series and reality instead

  18. djm

    pat, you thought they were excellent, but the viewers didnt… so you blame the viewers?!? might as well be playing the “amaricans are soooooooo stupid because they dont watch XYZ. they just cant handle real television.”

  19. Jack

    Pat, I blame NBC for firing Reilly who was bringing good, if not popular, TV to the airwaves and replacing him with Silverman who brought nothing but lower quality fare and even worse ratings.

  20. paul

    Sutter’s great…I totally agree with everything he wrote. Glad that someone with credibility is finally saying such things.

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