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	<title>Comments on: Dollhouse: It Helps To Have A Sense Of Humor</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it seems Dollhouse will get a proper finale, and at least get to run out all episodes. Which is a lot more then other axed series get, especially shows that get that low amount of viewers. 26 episodes and 2 seasons is pretty good for a series that averaged 3 million viewers. As for the Bones and Fringe combo, I think the two are compatible enough theme wise but its just the timeslot for Fringe could not be worse. Bones already has an established fan base and a less competitive timeslot but its harder for Fringe. If the Bones/Fringe combo was on tuesdays it may be easier for the two. I still believe due to the fact that FOX needs dramas that they will keep Fringe for another year. Lie to Me still hasnt been given a full season but hopefully it will. I wish FOX would announce their midseason sched already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it seems Dollhouse will get a proper finale, and at least get to run out all episodes. Which is a lot more then other axed series get, especially shows that get that low amount of viewers. 26 episodes and 2 seasons is pretty good for a series that averaged 3 million viewers. As for the Bones and Fringe combo, I think the two are compatible enough theme wise but its just the timeslot for Fringe could not be worse. Bones already has an established fan base and a less competitive timeslot but its harder for Fringe. If the Bones/Fringe combo was on tuesdays it may be easier for the two. I still believe due to the fact that FOX needs dramas that they will keep Fringe for another year. Lie to Me still hasnt been given a full season but hopefully it will. I wish FOX would announce their midseason sched already.</p>
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		<title>By: dovepage</title>
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		<dc:creator>dovepage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the fanbase between Bones and Fringe is just not compatible. I never miss Bones and try to watch Fringe but it just does not interest me, although I do enjoy a good scifi show, just not this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the fanbase between Bones and Fringe is just not compatible. I never miss Bones and try to watch Fringe but it just does not interest me, although I do enjoy a good scifi show, just not this one.</p>
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		<title>By: dovepage</title>
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		<dc:creator>dovepage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be possible to publish the current 18-49 average each week I see some shows dropping when they are not even broadcasting. Just a thought. Love your site and I have been directing more people as they get interested in ratings for their favs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be possible to publish the current 18-49 average each week I see some shows dropping when they are not even broadcasting. Just a thought. Love your site and I have been directing more people as they get interested in ratings for their favs.</p>
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		<title>By: patrickkelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrickkelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Dollhouse. I like the concept, even if it is not always executed to the greatest effect. They don&#039;t spend enough time detailing the potential abuse of such situations as the Dolls are put in. You just see them living in what seems to be a little dream world, and then off to the next missions. We have various characters wanting to take down the Dollhouse, but not enough time is devoted to making us understand or caring as to why. I&#039;m almost certain Adelle will turn out to be a doll herself, probably the first one. What better to trust with the mission of running the place? I wish it would stick around, but I&#039;m resigned to the inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Dollhouse. I like the concept, even if it is not always executed to the greatest effect. They don&#8217;t spend enough time detailing the potential abuse of such situations as the Dolls are put in. You just see them living in what seems to be a little dream world, and then off to the next missions. We have various characters wanting to take down the Dollhouse, but not enough time is devoted to making us understand or caring as to why. I&#8217;m almost certain Adelle will turn out to be a doll herself, probably the first one. What better to trust with the mission of running the place? I wish it would stick around, but I&#8217;m resigned to the inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mackenzie J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mackenzie J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i miss dollhouse too!!! december is so &#039;far far away&#039;...... ok maybe the show&#039;s got low rating, but im a spectator and i dont care if fox network falls like cw and nbc did, most of its shedule is just awful. i want to watch my favourite show! i want watch it now!!!!! is december coming???? hhhaaaarrrggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i miss dollhouse too!!! december is so &#8216;far far away&#8217;&#8230;&#8230; ok maybe the show&#8217;s got low rating, but im a spectator and i dont care if fox network falls like cw and nbc did, most of its shedule is just awful. i want to watch my favourite show! i want watch it now!!!!! is december coming???? hhhaaaarrrggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I can’t be the only one.&lt;/i&gt;

Nope.  Perhaps more than any other show EVER, I will miss Dollhouse when it&#039;s gone.  But I feel confident it will go out in a protracted blaze of trolling, fanbois-isms, rape/not rape, scheduling glory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I can’t be the only one.</i></p>
<p>Nope.  Perhaps more than any other show EVER, I will miss Dollhouse when it&#8217;s gone.  But I feel confident it will go out in a protracted blaze of trolling, fanbois-isms, rape/not rape, scheduling glory.</p>
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		<title>By: buffywrestling</title>
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		<dc:creator>buffywrestling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss Dollhouse. If only for the new postings. Trolling, fanbois-isms, rape/not-rape, scheduling that would be better if it wasn&#039;t for accountants...

I can&#039;t be the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss Dollhouse. If only for the new postings. Trolling, fanbois-isms, rape/not-rape, scheduling that would be better if it wasn&#8217;t for accountants&#8230;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t be the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony - Both Dollhouse and Brothers are slowly being burned off. Both are as good as cancelled. Til Death will hopefully be taken out of its misery when all Season 4 episodes have been aired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony &#8211; Both Dollhouse and Brothers are slowly being burned off. Both are as good as cancelled. Til Death will hopefully be taken out of its misery when all Season 4 episodes have been aired.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dollhouse and Brothers need to be axed now. Til Death needs to be taken out of its misery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dollhouse and Brothers need to be axed now. Til Death needs to be taken out of its misery.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Lie to Me is in worse shape than Fringe depending on what FOX decides to do. Fringe is likely to stay Thursdays at 9 until May (probably the smart thing) and should get renewed based on OK ratings. Even without House, FOX can do two things with Lie to Me once 24 premieres. They can move Lie to Me to air post Idol Tuesdays (until Past Life premieres around March) or FOX could move Lie to Me to air fridays. If it airs fridays its basically dead but if FOX wants Lie to Me to grow, then they could air it post Idol. FOX hasnt even ordered a full season of Lie yet but im confident they will. Since FOX&#039;s midseason is packed enough they may just order additional eps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Lie to Me is in worse shape than Fringe depending on what FOX decides to do. Fringe is likely to stay Thursdays at 9 until May (probably the smart thing) and should get renewed based on OK ratings. Even without House, FOX can do two things with Lie to Me once 24 premieres. They can move Lie to Me to air post Idol Tuesdays (until Past Life premieres around March) or FOX could move Lie to Me to air fridays. If it airs fridays its basically dead but if FOX wants Lie to Me to grow, then they could air it post Idol. FOX hasnt even ordered a full season of Lie yet but im confident they will. Since FOX&#8217;s midseason is packed enough they may just order additional eps.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addendum: I should say I wasn&#039;t offended at the subject matter.  Rather, I was offended at what I was asked to accept when thrown plot holes the size of diesel trucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum: I should say I wasn&#8217;t offended at the subject matter.  Rather, I was offended at what I was asked to accept when thrown plot holes the size of diesel trucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing I don&#039;t get: people keep saying it&#039;s offensive.  I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m getting that.  

I would think that it would at least stabilize the &quot;morbid curiosity&quot; crowd (to the point of &quot;Didya see Dollhouse, man?  How are they ever going to top -that-?&quot;), and it hasn&#039;t even done that much.

Now, I&#039;ve watched five episodes total (three from the first season -including the pilot - and the first two of the second), and I couldn&#039;t recall a single moment when I was offended.  Maybe I&#039;m jaded, maybe I&#039;ve experienced far better sci-fi (and dramas) that touches on the same topics, but if anything, Dollhouse never went -far enough- into the prostitution aspect.  

In fact, it made prostitution glittery and glamorous.  The dolls live in a day-spa after all.  The horror!

My feeling is that it wanted to be organized crime, but a quirky and different kind of organized crime, which, Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid, should look ugly, scary and intimidating.  Hell, it&#039;s even cuddly enough that two of the dolls get to be a couple?!?!

(Methinks that anyone who thinks that a dystopia like Dollhouses ought to let that sort of thing go on would have balked at the words &quot;Do it to Julia!&quot; as they appeared in &#039;1984&#039;.)

Would have given the show a bit more respect - and I think a lot more people would have as well - had the Dollhouse been cruel enough to more violently attempt to squash the &#039;real&#039; Caroline out, because that&#039;s what the Dollhouse ultimately has to do to hold onto its prized doll, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing I don&#8217;t get: people keep saying it&#8217;s offensive.  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m getting that.  </p>
<p>I would think that it would at least stabilize the &#8220;morbid curiosity&#8221; crowd (to the point of &#8220;Didya see Dollhouse, man?  How are they ever going to top -that-?&#8221;), and it hasn&#8217;t even done that much.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ve watched five episodes total (three from the first season -including the pilot &#8211; and the first two of the second), and I couldn&#8217;t recall a single moment when I was offended.  Maybe I&#8217;m jaded, maybe I&#8217;ve experienced far better sci-fi (and dramas) that touches on the same topics, but if anything, Dollhouse never went -far enough- into the prostitution aspect.  </p>
<p>In fact, it made prostitution glittery and glamorous.  The dolls live in a day-spa after all.  The horror!</p>
<p>My feeling is that it wanted to be organized crime, but a quirky and different kind of organized crime, which, Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid, should look ugly, scary and intimidating.  Hell, it&#8217;s even cuddly enough that two of the dolls get to be a couple?!?!</p>
<p>(Methinks that anyone who thinks that a dystopia like Dollhouses ought to let that sort of thing go on would have balked at the words &#8220;Do it to Julia!&#8221; as they appeared in &#8217;1984&#8242;.)</p>
<p>Would have given the show a bit more respect &#8211; and I think a lot more people would have as well &#8211; had the Dollhouse been cruel enough to more violently attempt to squash the &#8216;real&#8217; Caroline out, because that&#8217;s what the Dollhouse ultimately has to do to hold onto its prized doll, no?</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;beacause fox network really sucks.&quot;

Because Dollhouse got pitifully low ratings, and even when it was renewed despite them, it couldn&#039;t hold onto even that meager audience. Because the DVD sales were, to put it charitably, lackluster. Because Eliza Dushku simply isn&#039;t compelling people to tune in. Because in many ways the concept of the show is riddled with holes and it&#039;s hard to suspend disbelief. Because the stories are often boring, risible, or offensive. Because the showrunner knew there were major structural problems and when he got renewed for season two, he never bothered addressing any of them and instead gave us more &quot;mission of the week&quot; poor man&#039;s Quantum Leap snoozers. Because Tahmoh is a bore, Topher is annoying, and Adelle has largely been a one-trick pony, and the show is structured to make chemistry between the various characters almost impossible to build. Because the most successful episodes have been the ones that only barely featured the ostensible star of the show. Because the plot hits the same notes week after week and they&#039;re boring notes. Because Whedon and his writers are spectacularly bad at writing action and at writing procedurals and yet they keep giving us action and procedurals and the stories are riddled with lazy simplistic solutions and giant plotholes. Because it&#039;s not that great a show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;beacause fox network really sucks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because Dollhouse got pitifully low ratings, and even when it was renewed despite them, it couldn&#8217;t hold onto even that meager audience. Because the DVD sales were, to put it charitably, lackluster. Because Eliza Dushku simply isn&#8217;t compelling people to tune in. Because in many ways the concept of the show is riddled with holes and it&#8217;s hard to suspend disbelief. Because the stories are often boring, risible, or offensive. Because the showrunner knew there were major structural problems and when he got renewed for season two, he never bothered addressing any of them and instead gave us more &#8220;mission of the week&#8221; poor man&#8217;s Quantum Leap snoozers. Because Tahmoh is a bore, Topher is annoying, and Adelle has largely been a one-trick pony, and the show is structured to make chemistry between the various characters almost impossible to build. Because the most successful episodes have been the ones that only barely featured the ostensible star of the show. Because the plot hits the same notes week after week and they&#8217;re boring notes. Because Whedon and his writers are spectacularly bad at writing action and at writing procedurals and yet they keep giving us action and procedurals and the stories are riddled with lazy simplistic solutions and giant plotholes. Because it&#8217;s not that great a show.</p>
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		<title>By: carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max452, you said it.  Nobody will ever give Eliza a show again after the ratings for Tru Calling and Dollhouse.  Once Fox burns off the remaining Dollhouse episodes, Eliza will be free to resume her movie career as the poor man&#039;s Rose McGowan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max452, you said it.  Nobody will ever give Eliza a show again after the ratings for Tru Calling and Dollhouse.  Once Fox burns off the remaining Dollhouse episodes, Eliza will be free to resume her movie career as the poor man&#8217;s Rose McGowan.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred: beacause fox network really sucks.</description>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im not a dollhouse or fringe fan, but how is possible that fox is thinking about one more season of fringe that perform really bad out of bones on thursday and already decided to cancel dollhouse which has bad performance but never had promotion or a strong lead in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im not a dollhouse or fringe fan, but how is possible that fox is thinking about one more season of fringe that perform really bad out of bones on thursday and already decided to cancel dollhouse which has bad performance but never had promotion or a strong lead in?</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually jennifer garner wasn t this &#039;great&#039; on alias..  and the show was really borink, reminded me dark angel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually jennifer garner wasn t this &#8216;great&#8217; on alias..  and the show was really borink, reminded me dark angel</p>
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		<title>By: max452</title>
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		<dc:creator>max452</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RSH, if you have a show idea to pitch, please keep in mind that Eliza cannot carry a show as the main character. This one of things I believe is killing DH now. She would have been great as a supporting character, just like on Buffy/Angel. If Fox thought they were getting an &quot;Alias&quot; clone with Jen Garner in DH, as I have heard said, then they should have gotten someone with the ability to act as well as Jen Garner for the main role.

My 2 cents. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RSH, if you have a show idea to pitch, please keep in mind that Eliza cannot carry a show as the main character. This one of things I believe is killing DH now. She would have been great as a supporting character, just like on Buffy/Angel. If Fox thought they were getting an &#8220;Alias&#8221; clone with Jen Garner in DH, as I have heard said, then they should have gotten someone with the ability to act as well as Jen Garner for the main role.</p>
<p>My 2 cents. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOLLHOUSE do not give up! you are the best show on that crappy network, you have to survive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOLLHOUSE do not give up! you are the best show on that crappy network, you have to survive!</p>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think the cancellation is so sure. everything can happen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think the cancellation is so sure. everything can happen</p>
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		<title>By: lutherblissett</title>
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		<dc:creator>lutherblissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the less Dollhouse episodes that air, the more House reruns (or whatever) they can air instead to higher ratings.&quot;

I&#039;m actually going to credit FOX to the extent that House has been jammed a little in the schedules on Mondays -- dual-tuner DVR non-cable households who want to catch HIMYM and Heroes (i.e. mine) have taken a pass on House so far this season. So the premiere rerun on Friday was a good way to remind a strand of viewers what they&#039;ve been missing.

Tuesday has felt like a dead day until this week. I know that FOX has SYTYCD blocked out for two hours now, but the offerings since the start of the fall season have been really pretty shoddy -- for me, it&#039;s been a &quot;DVR catchup&quot; day. I&#039;m not sure what FOX can do with its Fridays, but Tuesdays were there for the taking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the less Dollhouse episodes that air, the more House reruns (or whatever) they can air instead to higher ratings.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually going to credit FOX to the extent that House has been jammed a little in the schedules on Mondays &#8212; dual-tuner DVR non-cable households who want to catch HIMYM and Heroes (i.e. mine) have taken a pass on House so far this season. So the premiere rerun on Friday was a good way to remind a strand of viewers what they&#8217;ve been missing.</p>
<p>Tuesday has felt like a dead day until this week. I know that FOX has SYTYCD blocked out for two hours now, but the offerings since the start of the fall season have been really pretty shoddy &#8212; for me, it&#8217;s been a &#8220;DVR catchup&#8221; day. I&#8217;m not sure what FOX can do with its Fridays, but Tuesdays were there for the taking.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX should announce their midseason sched soon.</description>
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		<title>By: lutherblissett</title>
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		<dc:creator>lutherblissett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RSH does have Summer Glau on Dollhouse to keep him occupied until year&#039;s end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RSH does have Summer Glau on Dollhouse to keep him occupied until year&#8217;s end.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pisher - Thats true, FOX needs to find a new way to solve their friday night problem. They are doing well enough the rest of the week and it seems everything is set in midseason. FOX needs to figure out what will air fridays at 8 and 9 as well as what will air Tuesdays post idol. FOX also needs to find slots for Kitchen Nightmares, Past Life, Lie to Me and Hell&#039;s Kitchen, which im sure they will. Here&#039;s an easy way to solve the friday night problem. Move COPS and AMW from saturday to friday. The duo could do well on fridays or atleast the same and since no one competes on saturdays FOX coulod air repeats of something else then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pisher &#8211; Thats true, FOX needs to find a new way to solve their friday night problem. They are doing well enough the rest of the week and it seems everything is set in midseason. FOX needs to figure out what will air fridays at 8 and 9 as well as what will air Tuesdays post idol. FOX also needs to find slots for Kitchen Nightmares, Past Life, Lie to Me and Hell&#8217;s Kitchen, which im sure they will. Here&#8217;s an easy way to solve the friday night problem. Move COPS and AMW from saturday to friday. The duo could do well on fridays or atleast the same and since no one competes on saturdays FOX coulod air repeats of something else then.</p>
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		<title>By: pisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>pisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pisher – Its like when FOX has aired series on fridays to 4-6 million viewers and they considered that bad.&quot;

Well, at the time, it was.  Standards have gotten lower, but not THAT low.  And by the time they did, Dollhouse would be doing even worse.  

&quot;All of FOX’s previous friday series did better than Dollhouse and when they renew Dollhouse look what happens, and they keep it on.&quot;

But for reasons that had nothing to do with ratings.  And it&#039;s looking like Dollhouse will basically run the equivalent of one season.  So that was fair, right?  It got a chance.  It failed.  C&#039;est la guerre.  

&quot;FOX had it right with the Fifth Grader/Lyrics combo.&quot;

Dude.  FOX was doing better with COPS repeats than it did with Dollhouse LAST season.  :)

&quot;After Dollhouse is gone, hopefully FOX puts Kitchen Nightamres on fridays paired with another drama. Maybe that will do better.&quot;

Maybe we don&#039;t need to worry about was FOX does.  FOX needs to worry about its proclivity for greenlighting horrible genre shows that develop tiny obsessive fanbases that would hate FOX forever if they canceled said show after TEN seasons.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pisher – Its like when FOX has aired series on fridays to 4-6 million viewers and they considered that bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, at the time, it was.  Standards have gotten lower, but not THAT low.  And by the time they did, Dollhouse would be doing even worse.  </p>
<p>&#8220;All of FOX’s previous friday series did better than Dollhouse and when they renew Dollhouse look what happens, and they keep it on.&#8221;</p>
<p>But for reasons that had nothing to do with ratings.  And it&#8217;s looking like Dollhouse will basically run the equivalent of one season.  So that was fair, right?  It got a chance.  It failed.  C&#8217;est la guerre.  </p>
<p>&#8220;FOX had it right with the Fifth Grader/Lyrics combo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude.  FOX was doing better with COPS repeats than it did with Dollhouse LAST season.  <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;After Dollhouse is gone, hopefully FOX puts Kitchen Nightamres on fridays paired with another drama. Maybe that will do better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe we don&#8217;t need to worry about was FOX does.  FOX needs to worry about its proclivity for greenlighting horrible genre shows that develop tiny obsessive fanbases that would hate FOX forever if they canceled said show after TEN seasons.</p>
<p> <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And FOX never expected Fringe to be a hit, tey just expected it to hold up against serious competition. FOX is in need of dramas and now they have 24, House, Bones as well as sophomores Fringe and Lie to Me which are doing OK and newcomer Glee which is doing pretty good. I still cant wait for FOX&#039;s midseason schedule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And FOX never expected Fringe to be a hit, tey just expected it to hold up against serious competition. FOX is in need of dramas and now they have 24, House, Bones as well as sophomores Fringe and Lie to Me which are doing OK and newcomer Glee which is doing pretty good. I still cant wait for FOX&#8217;s midseason schedule.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX could move Human Target to fridays for its remaining episodes to make room for Glee to return after Idol. How Target performs fridays may determine whether or not the show continues. Fringe will continue to to average against CSI, Grey&#039;s, Office/30 Rock but FOX is satisfied. Both Bones and Fringe will stay on Thursdays for the rest of the season. I dont see Past Life airing after Idol beginning in January. FOX has it that way currently but if Lie to Me gets a full year, FOX could air some Lie to Me after Idol from Feb-March then move it to fridays and then air Past Life after Idol for 7 eps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX could move Human Target to fridays for its remaining episodes to make room for Glee to return after Idol. How Target performs fridays may determine whether or not the show continues. Fringe will continue to to average against CSI, Grey&#8217;s, Office/30 Rock but FOX is satisfied. Both Bones and Fringe will stay on Thursdays for the rest of the season. I dont see Past Life airing after Idol beginning in January. FOX has it that way currently but if Lie to Me gets a full year, FOX could air some Lie to Me after Idol from Feb-March then move it to fridays and then air Past Life after Idol for 7 eps.</p>
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		<title>By: vsaint</title>
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		<dc:creator>vsaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to compare LTM with a similar new show, and FRINGE got a higher retention rate out of HOUSE last year. 
It averaged about 3.9 last year, could be off slighty. It also had IDOL as lead in, but i remember there wasn&#039;t much difference.
HOUSE&#039;s ratings were pretty similar, but FRINGE averaged about 70-80% retention.
Now that caused them to believe FRINGE could stand on it&#039;s own and be a hit.
Right now i&#039;m looking at the schedule, if FOX wants to continue with Dancing in Fall/IDOL WINTER, that doesn&#039;t leave much room for anything.
HUMAN TARGET will do at worst similar numbers to LTM.
24 is the key i guess if it will come back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to compare LTM with a similar new show, and FRINGE got a higher retention rate out of HOUSE last year.<br />
It averaged about 3.9 last year, could be off slighty. It also had IDOL as lead in, but i remember there wasn&#8217;t much difference.<br />
HOUSE&#8217;s ratings were pretty similar, but FRINGE averaged about 70-80% retention.<br />
Now that caused them to believe FRINGE could stand on it&#8217;s own and be a hit.<br />
Right now i&#8217;m looking at the schedule, if FOX wants to continue with Dancing in Fall/IDOL WINTER, that doesn&#8217;t leave much room for anything.<br />
HUMAN TARGET will do at worst similar numbers to LTM.<br />
24 is the key i guess if it will come back.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pisher - Its like when FOX has aired series on fridays to 4-6 million viewers and they considered that bad. All of FOX&#039;s previous friday series did better than Dollhouse and when they renew Dollhouse look what happens, and they keep it on. FOX had it right with the Fifth Grader/Lyrics combo. After Dollhouse is gone, hopefully FOX puts Kitchen Nightamres on fridays paired with another drama. Maybe that will do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pisher &#8211; Its like when FOX has aired series on fridays to 4-6 million viewers and they considered that bad. All of FOX&#8217;s previous friday series did better than Dollhouse and when they renew Dollhouse look what happens, and they keep it on. FOX had it right with the Fifth Grader/Lyrics combo. After Dollhouse is gone, hopefully FOX puts Kitchen Nightamres on fridays paired with another drama. Maybe that will do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake, November sweeps period is October 29 – November 25, 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake, November sweeps period is October 29 – November 25, 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When is the November sweeps period?</description>
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		<title>By: pisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>pisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, some of those shows are already canceled, for all intents and purposes.  Which Dollhouse very nearly is itself.  For all intents and purposes.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, some of those shows are already canceled, for all intents and purposes.  Which Dollhouse very nearly is itself.  For all intents and purposes.  <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hilarious that there are worse performing shows on the index than Dollhouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hilarious that there are worse performing shows on the index than Dollhouse.</p>
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		<title>By: pisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>pisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(pisher chuckles reading 1truebix&#039;s snarky response to him, while sipping 1truebix&#039;s beer)

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(pisher chuckles reading 1truebix&#8217;s snarky response to him, while sipping 1truebix&#8217;s beer)</p>
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		<title>By: pisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>pisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Dan, FOX is treating Dollhouse a lot better than Firefly.

And how&#039;s that paying off for them?

Kind of makes you figure they had it right the first time, don&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Dan, FOX is treating Dollhouse a lot better than Firefly.</p>
<p>And how&#8217;s that paying off for them?</p>
<p>Kind of makes you figure they had it right the first time, don&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: pisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>pisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]Dollhouse should move to FX.[/quote]

Where it would have a demo rating of about 0.1

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]Dollhouse should move to FX.[/quote]</p>
<p>Where it would have a demo rating of about 0.1</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vsaint - While not amazing, Lie to Me&#039;s retention out of House is better than most series, but its a show FOX could use in the winter/spring so I dont see why FOX hasnt given the series a full order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vsaint &#8211; While not amazing, Lie to Me&#8217;s retention out of House is better than most series, but its a show FOX could use in the winter/spring so I dont see why FOX hasnt given the series a full order.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - Though low rated series are pulled for sweeps (in favor of House and Bones repeats) Theres no reason that FOX cant continue doubling up and burning off Dollhouse in a month like December or January until they have found a more permanent replacement. And it seems that FOX cares more about airing the episodes they paid for rather than the DVD sales. Remember, Dollhouse wasnt a well rated series that suddenly dropped during its second season. Its first season was low rated and its second was only slightly worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; Though low rated series are pulled for sweeps (in favor of House and Bones repeats) Theres no reason that FOX cant continue doubling up and burning off Dollhouse in a month like December or January until they have found a more permanent replacement. And it seems that FOX cares more about airing the episodes they paid for rather than the DVD sales. Remember, Dollhouse wasnt a well rated series that suddenly dropped during its second season. Its first season was low rated and its second was only slightly worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, we don&#039;t control what commenters define cancellation as, but for me cancel = non-renewal for next season short of the obvious show sunsetting like ER, pulled off the schedule early is just a special case of canceled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon, we don&#8217;t control what commenters define cancellation as, but for me cancel = non-renewal for next season short of the obvious show sunsetting like ER, pulled off the schedule early is just a special case of canceled.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why are people taking FOX’s statements that they will air all 13 DH eps as gospel? It seems to me that DOLLHOUSE’s primary value to FOX at the moment is as a library title. Wouldn’t airing out the second season diminish its potential value in an already depressed DVD market?&quot;

I&#039;ve been thinking the same thing--Fox originally said the show would air during November sweeps--they even sent out the schedules--but then they abruptly changed their mind. No reason they can&#039;t change their minds now too. And the less Dollhouse episodes that air, the more House reruns (or whatever) they can air instead to higher ratings. And of course the less Dollhouse episodes that air, the higher potential sales of the season two DVD could be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why are people taking FOX’s statements that they will air all 13 DH eps as gospel? It seems to me that DOLLHOUSE’s primary value to FOX at the moment is as a library title. Wouldn’t airing out the second season diminish its potential value in an already depressed DVD market?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking the same thing&#8211;Fox originally said the show would air during November sweeps&#8211;they even sent out the schedules&#8211;but then they abruptly changed their mind. No reason they can&#8217;t change their minds now too. And the less Dollhouse episodes that air, the more House reruns (or whatever) they can air instead to higher ratings. And of course the less Dollhouse episodes that air, the higher potential sales of the season two DVD could be.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Simon, you ask people involved with The Unit or Pushing Daisies whether they think the show ended or was canceled. Are you really saying you don&#039;t see the difference between ER ending last season and Life getting canceled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Simon, you ask people involved with The Unit or Pushing Daisies whether they think the show ended or was canceled. Are you really saying you don&#8217;t see the difference between ER ending last season and Life getting canceled?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan - I hear what you&#039;re saying. It&#039;s just there&#039;s a difference between an abrupt cancellation mid-season (e.g. BEAUTIFUL LIFE) and a non-renewal for next ... a difference that is never acknowledged around here. 

A show that finishes out its season and simply not brought back for next may be CONSIDERED cancelled, but actually it&#039;s done okay overall. It&#039;s done well early on - at least well enough for the full complement of episodes to be aired - but not well enough at the end to earn a renewal for next season.

It seems to me a new show making it to Season Two is an exception rather than the rule, so if I like a show and it makes it to Season Two I consider it a bonus. But I guess it&#039;s how you choose look at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan &#8211; I hear what you&#8217;re saying. It&#8217;s just there&#8217;s a difference between an abrupt cancellation mid-season (e.g. BEAUTIFUL LIFE) and a non-renewal for next &#8230; a difference that is never acknowledged around here. </p>
<p>A show that finishes out its season and simply not brought back for next may be CONSIDERED cancelled, but actually it&#8217;s done okay overall. It&#8217;s done well early on &#8211; at least well enough for the full complement of episodes to be aired &#8211; but not well enough at the end to earn a renewal for next season.</p>
<p>It seems to me a new show making it to Season Two is an exception rather than the rule, so if I like a show and it makes it to Season Two I consider it a bonus. But I guess it&#8217;s how you choose look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are people taking FOX&#039;s statements that they will air all 13 DH eps as gospel? It seems to me that DOLLHOUSE&#039;s primary value to FOX at the moment is as a library title. Wouldn&#039;t airing out the second season diminish its potential value in an already depressed DVD market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people taking FOX&#8217;s statements that they will air all 13 DH eps as gospel? It seems to me that DOLLHOUSE&#8217;s primary value to FOX at the moment is as a library title. Wouldn&#8217;t airing out the second season diminish its potential value in an already depressed DVD market?</p>
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		<title>By: vsaint</title>
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		<dc:creator>vsaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would put Lie To Me in orange, poor retention out of HOUSE, about 55-60% range. BUt i could see fox sticking with the 13 episode order for the future, since they may have found a formula that works for fall/winter schedules.
With CSI dropping on Thursday, i think FOX is somewhat ok with FRINGE.
I see no chance they&#039;ll cancel it, another network, ABC in particular would pick it up. But it looks like they&#039;ll either weather the storm and build up Fringe on Thursday or move it to another night next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would put Lie To Me in orange, poor retention out of HOUSE, about 55-60% range. BUt i could see fox sticking with the 13 episode order for the future, since they may have found a formula that works for fall/winter schedules.<br />
With CSI dropping on Thursday, i think FOX is somewhat ok with FRINGE.<br />
I see no chance they&#8217;ll cancel it, another network, ABC in particular would pick it up. But it looks like they&#8217;ll either weather the storm and build up Fringe on Thursday or move it to another night next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you never know.  I know we&#039;ve already established that a &quot;good&quot; lead-in for &quot;Dollhouse&quot; doesn&#039;t make much of a difference, could there be any better lead-in for &quot;Dollhouse&quot; than another episode of &quot;Dollhouse?&quot;  LOL  At least it&#039;s the same genre, which is better than what&#039;s been leading this season so far.  I kind of like the idea of airing back-to-backs in December.  I&#039;m not holding out hope for a renewal, but I&#039;ve got to say that I was also entirely convinced it would be dumped last season.  Does Fox have anything better to air on Fridays at this point?  Then again, Fox is the dump capital of TV.

Wait...that sounded wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you never know.  I know we&#8217;ve already established that a &#8220;good&#8221; lead-in for &#8220;Dollhouse&#8221; doesn&#8217;t make much of a difference, could there be any better lead-in for &#8220;Dollhouse&#8221; than another episode of &#8220;Dollhouse?&#8221;  LOL  At least it&#8217;s the same genre, which is better than what&#8217;s been leading this season so far.  I kind of like the idea of airing back-to-backs in December.  I&#8217;m not holding out hope for a renewal, but I&#8217;ve got to say that I was also entirely convinced it would be dumped last season.  Does Fox have anything better to air on Fridays at this point?  Then again, Fox is the dump capital of TV.</p>
<p>Wait&#8230;that sounded wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: forg</title>
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		<dc:creator>forg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking how TIL DEATH will end up this season, will all episodes aired, will it be yanked again or will it air on Saturday midnight like sit down, shut up etc. That show&#039;s survival is really intriguing for me haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking how TIL DEATH will end up this season, will all episodes aired, will it be yanked again or will it air on Saturday midnight like sit down, shut up etc. That show&#8217;s survival is really intriguing for me haha</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dollhouse is easily doomed but at least FOX is committing to air all episodes. FOX is treating Joss Whedon&#039;s Dollhouse better than they did with his Firefly despite Dollhouse performing so much worse throughout its two seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dollhouse is easily doomed but at least FOX is committing to air all episodes. FOX is treating Joss Whedon&#8217;s Dollhouse better than they did with his Firefly despite Dollhouse performing so much worse throughout its two seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Steven Hack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Steven Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dollhouse is definitely doomed. Rather more so than it was at the end of season one, obviously. Whedon simply cannot turn this around now and shows little signs of intending it. 

Last week&#039;s episode was clearly a fairly lame attempt to address the &quot;rape&quot; complaint a lot of people have about the show. And it didn&#039;t come close. Nor, in my view, was it worth even trying since it will sway no one.

They should have busted out of the gate with major conspiracy stuff about Rossum, the more malevolent uses of the technology, made use of Alexis Denisoff, etc. Instead, they blew four episodes. 

Doomed. No way to save this show now. Bad as TSCC was bad at the end.

Joss, call me. Got a much better series concept in mind. You can even cast Summer and Eliza in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dollhouse is definitely doomed. Rather more so than it was at the end of season one, obviously. Whedon simply cannot turn this around now and shows little signs of intending it. </p>
<p>Last week&#8217;s episode was clearly a fairly lame attempt to address the &#8220;rape&#8221; complaint a lot of people have about the show. And it didn&#8217;t come close. Nor, in my view, was it worth even trying since it will sway no one.</p>
<p>They should have busted out of the gate with major conspiracy stuff about Rossum, the more malevolent uses of the technology, made use of Alexis Denisoff, etc. Instead, they blew four episodes. </p>
<p>Doomed. No way to save this show now. Bad as TSCC was bad at the end.</p>
<p>Joss, call me. Got a much better series concept in mind. You can even cast Summer and Eliza in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riff - Yeah I remember Lenny, I saw 5 minutes and that was it. But Brothers is over, and while FOX will also never announce it publicly, so is Dollhouse.

Simon - If a series has an announced end date than its considered ending but if a series is pulled or even finishes out its season but not brought back, its considered cancelled. For example, Lost has been announced in May 2007 has being planned to end in May 2010 so the series wouldnt be cancelled because we&#039;ve known about the ending for so long same as last year&#039;s Boston Legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riff &#8211; Yeah I remember Lenny, I saw 5 minutes and that was it. But Brothers is over, and while FOX will also never announce it publicly, so is Dollhouse.</p>
<p>Simon &#8211; If a series has an announced end date than its considered ending but if a series is pulled or even finishes out its season but not brought back, its considered cancelled. For example, Lost has been announced in May 2007 has being planned to end in May 2010 so the series wouldnt be cancelled because we&#8217;ve known about the ending for so long same as last year&#8217;s Boston Legal.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone distinguish between a show being cancelled and not being renewed for a further season? It&#039;s pretty standard for a show to be aired for, say, 13 or 22 episodes as planned without being renewed for the next season. It&#039;s another thing entirely for a show to be pulled off the air before all ordered episodes have aired - THAT&#039;S a cancellation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone distinguish between a show being cancelled and not being renewed for a further season? It&#8217;s pretty standard for a show to be aired for, say, 13 or 22 episodes as planned without being renewed for the next season. It&#8217;s another thing entirely for a show to be pulled off the air before all ordered episodes have aired &#8211; THAT&#8217;S a cancellation.</p>
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