Judging from the DVD sales data, I don’t think that’s really the case. It would seem to me that the shows are actually on more of an equal footing, precisely because FOX hasn’t seen a lot of money from Lie To Me outside of broadcast.

So how much could they really favor their own show in that case?

But whatever the syndication potential for Fringe is, Fox isn’t going to see any of that money. Warner Brothers will get the syndication money.

If the ratings were judged equivalent based on the many factors involved, LTM likely gets the nod over Fringe, but with these two shows, judging that equivalence is pretty complicated.

Historically FRINGE did better after HOUSE than LTM is doing, but, if I were at FOX Fringe would need to do more than a 10th or two better before I’d be thinking about it. I’d at least want to try it though…and perhaps LTM would fit nicely out of Bones (while still getting its clock cleaned by CSI and Grey’s).

Of course, I’m not at FOX.

I don’t think this is as big an advantage as it seems on the surface. The reason why is very simple: DVD sales. Lie To Me was released in late August, around 22-25th of this year. It didn’t even appear on the Nielsen VideoScan or The-numbers.com charts. Even Dollhouse, which has had weak DVD sales, at least showed up. Lie To Me didn’t even sell 25,000 units its first week of release. Fringe sold about 200,000 DVD units and about 40,000 BluRay units in 3 weeks of release.

Now I know the DVD money goes in WB’s pocket, not FOX’s, nor do they see any syndication money from Fringe, but they have to be looking at the DVD sales for Fringe vs. Lie To Me as a pretty strong indicator that:

1) FRINGE has a much bigger fanbase than Lie To Me and therefore
2) The syndication revenue from Lie To Me won’t be nearly as good

It would seem that this would counterbalance Lie To Me being a FOX show, wouldn’t it? Am I very wrong here, or is this a case of not knowing what the network is thinking, i.e. are they going to favor the show with the bigger fanbase or their own show no matter what?

I’m going to be pissed off if this show gets cancelled in favour of LTM, because of the bean counters.

But as FF has shown us, baseball hit its rating and once people missed one or 2 eps it has struggle to pick them back up. I think finge will be the same, off air for a few weeks people have realised they didn’t miss it all that much and continued watching something else. It will also struggle to pick those viewers back up now.

Bones as always showed it performs for fox whatever and sometimes because of this fox doesn’t treat it with the ultimate respect, as it’s so reliable.

I am getting to to point where I don’t even scan through DVR listings anymore on a daily basis. Most of what I watch is pre-programmed to record. When the schedule is wrong of changed than I miss stuff.

I am watching about 50% of my prime time viewing streaming directly off the computer. I almost never torrent a TV show. Too bad that the quality and voice sync sucks so bad on a lot of this stuff and that the interface with the remote is bad.

Of course this means that I am missing the commercials that pay for the programming. Oh wait I am over 49 so the advertisers do not care about me anyways. Oh well my dog still loves me

That said, I’ll tell you all why I don’t and will not watch the show. I started to, watched a number of shows in S1 but then turned it OFF. The reason was because everything I saw was a rip-off of another show, all been done better before. And from comments I read on here it seems nothing has changed. The acting being Z quality had an impact too.

So, I’ll not be watching and I don’t care if the show gets the ax, I actually want it gone becasue it simply annoys me.

This year, the ads were not sold at any premium based on fewer commercials. Ads on Thursdays typically cost more than other days, but at a 1.7 they will be in “make-good” mode.

The difference with Fringe though is that only I like it. My wife does not so they only have half of our household. That means that it will never get watched live at that time on Thursdays.

I like the characters, its the writers who are asses. Too much filler nonsense, like the latest one – not enough creative focus on forward momentum.

Sometimes shows you consider good are simply not popular enough to get the advertising dollars to keep them on the air. A show I like is likely to be canceled in a few months for the same reason. I’m not going to spam anyone about it. You shouldn’t either.

“Said it before and I’ll say it again. There is a reason ‘Hell’s Kitchen’ clicked in this hour this past spring. Because it was the only reality show on the Big 5 in the hour. (And it had a de facto lead-in in ‘Survivor.’)”

De facto, de schmacto. Is there any evidence that the audience of the former hydraulically drained into the latter?

You don’t like Chuck (refering “chuck sucks” icon)?

Boooww! Get Out ^^

Said it before and I’ll say it again. There is a reason “Hell’s Kitchen” clicked in this hour this past spring. Because it was the only reality show on the Big 5 in the hour. (And it had a de facto lead-in in “Survivor.”) The other 4 networks are offering scripted fare. Nobody with any common sense could possibly think that “Fringe,” of all things, was going to compete with them. Meanwhile, FOX is stinking up the joint on Tuesday (getting marginal demos — from viewers mostly in a demographic they don’t even care about) airing reality fare opposite 2 other network’s reality offerings. If “Fringe” was moved from Tuesday to Thursday for any reason other than to justify its cancellation, then the people FOX hired to make these programming decisions are every bit as stupid as the “Fringe” fans who didn’t know their show was on.

Best show on television… They knew it would drop on Thursdays! So they should try to put it somerwhere else and NOT Friday. They had about 9 or 10 million viewers i think.. They should have them again on a right time slot

Mais où ils ont la tête ces américains?!!

Je ne comprends pas la FOX d’avoir envoyé Fringe le jeudi soir et encore moins qu’elle continue à démonter la série de semaines en semaines.
C’est catastrophique.
Pourtant, la série était numéro 1 des nouvelles séries sur les 18-49 ans la saison dernière devant The Mentalist, et vice-versa en terme d’audiences..!

Fringe est faite par JJ, donc buzz et fanbase solide!

S’ajoute à cela qu’elle obtient des bons taux concernant les enregistrements numériques…

Et bien sûr, elle se vend très bien à l’internationale et la presse est unanime: Vive Fringe!

L’annuler serait donc une grosse perte pour la FOX.
Mais à ce rythme là, il y a de quoi être inquiet.

Manifestons nous dès à présent pour un changement de case horaire, puis pour une saison 3.

Il faut dire que le fantastique sera toujours boudé par le téléspectateur.
En revanche, les américains se réuniront toujours en masse pour un CSI: Dallas, CSI: Seattle ou encore un CSI: Washington.

Et ce n’est pas dans la soirée “guerrière” que ça va s’arranger.
FlashForward en fait également les frais.
Et pourtant, quelle nouvelle série de qualité…
On n’en parle pas assez, mais il faut dire que la prochaine enquête de Laurence Fishburne dépassera tout évènement télévisuel par son originalité. Just Kidding!

As for Fringe, it seems they did not lure any viewers even with their 20+ leadins with over 12 million viewers, AI even gave them lots of 20 million lead in. Good riddance Fringe, you won’t be missed.

Perhaps they will turn out for the next few episodes–we’ll see.

C’mon, guys, we know you have a post in draft about how GLEE plummeted this week, just for the heck of it.

Crime shows, yes. But Glee? It’s a freaking weekly *musical*! If you don’t like the show that’s fine, but we should all be happy when such a weird concept not only survives, but thrives in the ratings. We complain constantly that the real creative concepts are never given a chance or fail when they are. Well, this is one that’s making it. I can’t imagine hating on it even if I didn’t like it, just on general principle.

…eh-oh! Assign drink values to each bingo excuse…

…eh-oh! Nobody would be able to post anything legible here for about a day – two days during March through May