Yuk, sentimental blabla in space, I just don’t have the words to describe what a huge disappointment it is, rarely you see a show without ANY good points; they succeeded in that with SU.

Brrr, almost disgusting.

SG1 and SGA were great and the people behind SGU have ruined the franchise.

Bring back SGA, even recreate SG1 with a new team but by all means I really hope SGU is canceled and every episode burned! SGU is a DISGRACE.

I agree that the characters are shallow. Give me an O’neal or a Shepherd any day. Eli is the only redeemable character so far. I hope that Young gets killed of soon. What an annoying character.

American viewers want action and sex, not depth. That’s okay but those who prefer more character driven should not be discarded.

Yes, V is about aliens, Flash Forward is about mental time travel, and LOST is about a magic island that travels people in time, but they’re not exactly Deep Space Nine type series. 9/10 of the time they focus on the human interactions on the shows, not on the SCI-FI concept at their cores.

I love SGU. It’s replaced Smallville as the show I look forward to watching the most during Saturday morning hangovers. I think it gets better every week, and I like some of the ideas they promote (the ship getting its power from inside of a star was cool, I haven’t seen another show do that before).

I give V 2 seasons, then cancellation.
I give SGU 4.

(Oh and Sanctuary had their best episode ever last week. More like that, please!!!)

Knowing that I adjusted my own perceptions and expectations. Stargate Galactica it may or may not be but is one of the reasons SGA was canned. My own feeling on it is that I am still watching. I am not entirely sure where it’s going or what this so-called “vision” is about but so far it hasn’t put me off. I am certainly happy to go to the end of the season before making up my mind on it. Credit in that respect goes to the writers and the good acting, although I am dubious about the need for regular gratuitous sex scenes. Inevitably comparisons with SGA/SG-1 will not help and that will leave people frustrated and disappointed.

Not in this household. If a show doesn’t click (or goes off-track), it rarely gets further viewings. Doesn’t matter if it is the 1st episode or the season finale of season 5. That’s just the way it is here.

But seriously, grow some patience and at the very least wait until the first season is over.

“Its not the actors who needed to be changed but the writers. SGA had an amazing talented cast who were mostly ignored but the difference between the SGA cast and the SGU cast is that the SGA actors rose above the writing. Their charisma and chemistry is what made SGA so enjoyable, not the writing or the storylines, but SGU doesn’t even have this.”

You nailed it! SGA had such a great cast with incredible chemistry. Even the smaller part characters like Zelenka and Ellis (when he was there) added to the show. The core cast of Joe Flanigan, Rachel Luttrell, Jason Momoa, and Davd Hewlett could have gone on for 5 more seasons easily with the right writers.

SGA had good ratings IN SPITE of the writing, so I know with better writers they could have had 3 million viewers each week easy. It’s too bad that they were so willing to throw that all away.

@Robert Seidman: Thanks for the link to the Michael Shanks article. It’s great to see him doing well. He ended up having the same complaints about the show that many others do, but I could tell that because at least some of his bread is still buttered by Stargate, he couldn’t really say everything that he really thought.

@Cimmer – Thanks for the numbers.

As far as “sexism” I hadn’t noticed much. Sure compared to Flashforward or Defying Gravity, V or maybe even Warehouse 13 it would be seen that way but the men on those programs are like adolescent girlhood fanfic fantasies.

As far as V goes, we’re only one episode in but I think I prefer SGU to the new V as far as potential goes. I loved the original mini-series and am disappointed at some of the turns they’ve taken in this reinvention.

It’s not SGA or SG-1. It’s not BSG either. The people running the show, the people who own the show, and the people who are in the show have been saying this for over a year. I don’t understand your criticisms on any of those counts – you’re clearly savvy enough to keep up with the news, did you just plug your ears and ignore what’s been reported for 15+ months?

Of course, I may be in the minority. I happen to think that any review that begins with, “Well, compared to x, y is…” are totally ridiculous. If you can’t write a review about the merits (or lack thereof) of anything (tv show, movie, video game, household cleaning product, 2012 apocalypse theory, etc) without comparing it, you don’t really come across as the unbiased critic, now do you? There’s a difference between “A is similar to B” or “B does ___ better than A” but when the critical reviews are, “Hey guys A isn’t B and so it’s no good,” I have no option but to laugh.

$0.02

I like many others wanted to like SG:U, but I do not. Even now I can only remember one characters’ name. Later, I read Mo’s review and the reaction of the producers. Mo nailed my own reactions.

BSG envy and a desire for worldly praise from Hollywood makes for some dish of sour grapes for the SG:U producers.. They have lost me as a viewer, but as I am not a randy 15 year old I doubt they care.

And then for the premiere of V to do better than the premiere of SGU hum maybe that was why BW was so upset a show that is over 20 years old does better than his new and improved SG show.

BTW I liked V from the 80’s and I liked the 1st few seasons of BSG and IMO BSG was way better than SGU.

@ A. says:
From Brad Wright attacking V to Joe Mallozzi unscreening appalling comments about his actors/characters on his blog, and in the case of Joe Flanigan and Torri Higginson, openly criticizing them through the nasty comments he let through.

I didn’t hear about this what exactly was said. I never go to JM blog it makes me nauseous all that butt kissing he never puts comments on there that he hasn’t screened. I know mine never made it LOL.

Sanctuary
- 1.420 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.5/2 A18-49

Maybe Brad saw the latest ratings?

From Brad Wright attacking V to Joe Mallozzi unscreening appalling comments about his actors/characters on his blog, and in the case of Joe Flanigan and Torri Higginson, openly criticising them through the nasty comments he let through.

They have no class at all.

This sums up perfectly how I (and many other sf fans) feel about the show.
Great post from Ryan, it shows how the producers of SGU have gone all Berman & Braga, and are starting to attack critics and fans for “not understanding their amazing vision”… That kind of behavior killed Star Trek and it seams that it is going to kill Stargate. It’s a sad day for SciFi fans everywhere indeed.

Any respect I’ve had for these guys is long gone after their deplorable treatment of the SGA cancellation. They cancel a sucessful show and then diss the actors and then complain about how fans treat the SGU actors. Maybe Brad Wright and his fellow producers should take some of their own advise, and stop insulting fans because we don’t happen to like their new version of Stargate. We were told this new cast were better actors than the last so how is that not insulting to the actors that brought them to where they are now. Joseph Mallozzi rants on his blog about offending the actors because certain fans complained about their characters, yet his passive aggressive attitude to Joe Flanigan over the years has been deplorable, culminating in Mallozzie totally ignoring him in his farewell video to the show.

They obviously don’t like criticism from any direction, not their previous actors,their fanbase and now from actual critics. Instead they continue to bury their heads in the sand and ignore any critique of their work. This was evidenced in their treatment of fans in season 5 of SGA. Fans lamented for years that they wanted more character development and grittier stories on SGA, but it was always ignored. Fans complained about the dreadful inclusion of the Keller character but each time they complained the attitude of these guys was to give her more screentime.

SGU is not being critizised because it’s not SGA or SG1, its because it is a poorly executed show with shallow unlikeable characters and practically no plot. It’s not anymore realistic than previous shows or new and different. It’s just the same old rubbish these stale writers are dishing up in a different wrapping. Its not the actors who needed to be changed but the writers. SGA had an amazing talented cast who were mostly ignored but the difference between the SGA cast and the SGU cast is that the SGA actors rose above the writing. Their charisma and chemistry is what made SGA so enjoyable, not the writing or the storylines, but SGU doesn’t even have this. No one stands out in the SGU cast. Robert Carlyle is a wonderful dramatic actor and a character actor but he doesn’t bring that little extra to the writing that RDA and Joe Flanigan did. He doesn’t have the charisma of the previous lead actors.

But its not the SGU actors fault that they have been thrown into a badly written and sexist mess and this is what SGU is. It’s geared towards the fanboys and a predominantly male audience, so its not going to appeal to a mainstream audience, or garner the acclaim these producers so desparately seek. It’s not a good scifi show or even a good soap opera. It fails in both categories. Its filled with cliched steryotypical characters who have been thrown into forced situations to create drama, but bickering and back biting and gratuious sex don’t make a show work. There is no deep meaningful drama in SGU, far from it. It’s nothing but angsty unlikeable whiny characters who have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Its sad to see the Franchise resort to such cheap tactics. I really wish they had kept the Stargate name out of SGU and not tarnished the franchise with this rubbish.

Mo,
I read you earlier review and find you to be very much correct in what you have written. The pilot put me to sleep and Earth has still not been viewed completely for the same reason. SG:U is dark, dead, and extremely boring. This entire show is just terrible. The characters are unlikeable and the plot has been lifeless. I did see in Earth enough to think if the entire crew was somehow gated back to earth and some of the left over characters from Atlantis or SG1 were somehow gated to the Destiny I would not be sad at all and maybe even happy.

To the show lovers all I can say is enjoy it while you can because the new audience they have been writing for is yet to start viewing in large enough numbers while those of us (like me) that have followed the franchise from the days on Showtime and the fifteen years till now are going to eventually fade away leaving the audience too small the warrant another season.

Unfortunately, the eventual failure of SG:U will bring an end to science fiction shows on the new re branded Syfy Network. With Friday nights being the only time they air the genre now.

BTW Hello again txlucky1 Long Time no See lol.

http://tv.ign.com/articles/104/1043224p1.html

Some fans don’t like your new show. Wah wah. That’s showbiz. Suck it up and get over it.

I agree about SGU, there isn’t much of the humor or chemistry between the characters that I liked in SG1.
I haven’t given up, but right now, I don’t care what happens to the characters.
I want to care. :/

What happened was the reviewer decided to tag on a line about how bad SGU was at the end of a very praising article on the ‘V’ premiere.

Brad responded in kind. Although, I do have to wonder if it really was Mr Wright. Time will tell though.

The last three episodes were some of the best episodes of any SG series. The female characters have been flashed out more and they’re starting to show great potential, especially TJ the medic.

Robert Carlyle has made Rush the best SG character in only 7 episodes.

RDA is in episode 7.

Here are the latest ratings I could find, from the SGU board on Syfy.

Live+SD

Air Part 1/2 – 1.7 HH (2.3 Million viewers)
Air Part 3 – 1.8 HH (2.4 Million viewers)
Darkness – 1.6 HH rating (2.1 Million viewers)
[b]Light – 1.5 HH rating (2.0 Million viewers)
Water – 1.5 HH rating (2.0 Million viewers)
Live + 7

Air Part 1/2 – 2.0 HH (2.8 Million viewers)
Air Part 3 – 2.2 HH (3.0 Million viewers)
Darkness – 1.9 HH (2.6 Million viewers)

So, the show isn’t dropping like a stone, but when you are only getting 2 million viewers, which is a lot for Syfy, the downside is that any drop is somewhat significant, since you want to grow, not shrink, and the demo’s is shrinking-again, maybe not a huge amount, but when your numbers are small to start with, a small fraction is still important. However, the show will, probably get a second season. If it doesn’t establish itself by then, then Syfy will probably say “bye, bye.”

I figure I’ll check back in on it 10 eps from now, and if it hasn’t moved forward yet, that’s it. I also hope it gets a bit darker, since so far the only “dark” aspect IMO has been the bleak premise.

I really loved the humor and extreme campiness of SGA, but even that had huge race and gender issues and Wright and Malozzi have been asses about it since the dawn of time. Their favorite subject of of envy used to be BSG, but do a search replace on the show names and you’ve got same old, same old.

I don’t really understand why they had completely change Stargate, from a pretty light hearted action series to some sort of intense character-based drama. The writers don’t have it in them to pull that transition off, and it completely limits the series in terms of what stories they can tell, and how long the over-all storyline can go on for.

I don’t mind the premise, but I think it would have been better if it wasn’t so intense and in your face, and was just SGA’s style but a bit more serious. Not Battlestar Galactica levels of doom, more like Lost.