I looked at the numbers and it took me a couple of takes to get the demo/share for The Big bang theory. I thought “when did we start getting 3 decimal places”

You have: 4.511

You mean 4.5/11

/crazy nitpick

While the Firefly movie (Serenity) wasn’t a box office success (only $38.8 mil world wide with production costs of about $40mil), it was a critical success and did very well in DVD/Blu-ray sales. So calling it a “bomb” isn’t entirely correct.

Isn’t appropriate that Jay Leno does his best following a show called “The Biggest Loser”, which is what you are if you watch either show!

Certainly not the thing in my gravatar. It’s not its bottom of the barrel numbers that are the problem. It’s its bottom of the barrel quality and top of the barrel price tag. As for airdates, the finalized ones are below. I think the 10th one is on Nov. 30 but don’t quote me on that. It’s preempted most of December.

1. 101 28 Sep 09 Pilot
2. 103 5 Oct 09 All’s Fair
3. 102 12 Oct 09 Bad Day at Work
4. 104 19 Oct 09 Stuck
5. 105 26 Oct 09 Masquerade
6. 107 2 Nov 09 Home Court
7. 108 9 Nov 09 That Fragile Hour
8. 106 16 Nov 09 M’aidez
9. 109 23 Nov 09 Thank You

This is what really caused that show to go down: Cybill unable to get off the can for filming due to her IBS.

i don’t understand what the demo is though and why we should worry about it, isnt it the number of people watching making the show great? not the demo

At least I know where you’re coming from. Just try and judge is by the show rather than Fillion, eh? I think we’ll all get along better that way.

For the record, I’m with cammy 110%. I think the portrayal of Beckett and Alexis and even Lanie is a very refreshing change from the norm of television today.

…the fact that the writers had Maddie marry someone after knowing them only a few hours at the end of season four wouldn’t have happened if they hadn’t done it indicates that the shark factor cannot be ignored…

…although it’s definitely arguable that Shepherd’s pregnancy was also a critical factor, as well as Willis’ burgeoning film career at that time…

…fortunately, neither Katic nor Fillion have any of that to worry about – methinks Nielsen and the Disney execs are more than enough for them to worry about…

…especially since Moonlighting was also on ABC

I don’t have anything against Hilary Duff, but I’ve been totally underwhelmed with the show. The “threesome” scene seems like a desperate attempt to pull the ratings up. Compared to OTH, it’s not working.

As for what killed Moonlighting, TV folks recently discussed the myth that it was getting the couple together. It’s not true. You can find the explanation here:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2009/09/what_really_happened_to_moonli_1.html

I’m impressed with HIMYM’s stability with 3.5

Talk about jumping the shark – that’s probably why Katic is warming very, very slowly to Castle…

…and who says the best sex is in-your-face on-camera? Remember the Barney Miller episode where Yemana takes a prostitute home for Christmas? Or the one where Dietrich and the deaf prostitute go out for Chinese?

Of course, Castle gets this – Katic, after all, works at the ol’ one-two

One of MOONLIGHTING’S best episodes was THE DREAM SEQUENCE ONLY RINGS TWICE.

The season opener of BONES had a similar vibe with Booth’s coma.

and JAG used fantasy episodes to get Harm & Mac together

Thanks for the tip! I’ve known about this, just been too lazy to gravatar myself. Who would have thought that such a “rare” name as Danny would be used by someone else to bash something I love; hence, the radical moniker shift to Danny S.

To Mark: In regards to your observation about CASTLE.

Yes, CASTLE is ‘Old School’ with McMillan & Wife, The Rockford Files, Moonlighting, Remington Steele, The Thin Man(Nick & Nora Charles), being its inspiration. Castle’s greatest strength is its strong ensemble of characters! The ‘Old School’ quirky mysteries are its second strength. The greatest weakness CASTLE has is the running time of the show is slightly less than Forty-Three minutes, which is not enough time to do both a full-scale murder mystery and character rich show that the characters deserve. The old school shows that influenced this show did both Mystery & Characters as CASTLE does, but they had Forty-Eight Minutes of actual screen time back then, which is plenty for a self-contained TV Episode. Nathan Fillion will always outshine evan a mediocre murder mystery, as in last night’s episode; and the strong characters will always be more interesting than the murder mystery to the majority of us fans! Mark, you made it sound as if the characters were the weak link – they are its biggest asset.

Some solutions to get over the Forty-Three minutes limitation. Out of a 22-Episode season take three or four episodes and drop the murder mystery completely and focus on the daily lives and troubles of the characters. Treat these episodes like an episode of “GILMORE GIRLS.” Detective Kate Beckett comes into the Precinct early one morning and picks up a file on her desk and goes home, and we start a chain of events that blends all the characters quirky private lives, connecting them with each other, like the opening to Superman III and screwball comedies of the 30′s & 40′s. High Brow sophisticated comedy like “The Honeymooners,” “I Love Lucy,” and “The Gilmore Girls.” Get Kate Beckett involved in Castle’s personal life with Alexis & Martha; and Vice Versa with Castle in Beckett’s private life. Give Castle a Male Best Friend and Beckett a Female Best Friend to strengthen these concepts evan more.

Take two episodes a season that are “FILM NOIR” in nature. Richard Castle sitting at his desk as the Murder Mystery writer tells us a story that goes from a narration in Castle’s Mind onto the screen(like Private Detective Phillip Marlowe); but instead of Phillip Marlowe we get Nathan Fillion as Derrick Storm working on a case as a hard-boiled detective who comes across NYPD Detective Nikki Heat(Played by Stana Katic). They cross each others paths pursuing the same case & culprit and become intertwined in each others lives; except unlike Castle pursuing Beckett, the hunter and the hunted are reversed. Use the main CASTLE CAST to fill in roles in the mystery. The actors who play good detectives Ryan & Esposito are now bad guys in this fantasy pulp-fiction!

You shorten a 22-Episode season down to about 16 or 17 murder mysteries and hopefully get a higher quality in the mysteries you do get. The actors get to explore different things to satisfy their acting palette, and we as fans get something exciting and fresh – Win Win Situation!

Sorry if my post was too long!

I think they need to recalibrate the machine!

While Idol’s talent level had been declining, though no as much as DWTS,
and that it has produced only one genuine Idol, Carrie Underwood (deserved it); I have little doubt it will crush in the ratings in terms
of total viewers and demos and find a place in the hearts and minds of millions and millions of Americans.

It’s very ordinary mediocre network TV drama. I really don’t know what to say to people who find greatness in it. Besides ‘read a book’–and I don’t mean ghostwritten mystery novels. That an actor does the book signings for.

So if you want to bash Fillion, pish, then fine…but from what I’ve seen with Castle, you don’t have much of a leg to stand on. If you want to bash CASTLE, however…well, on what grounds do you do so? Tell me, what do you even KNOW about the show you relish in hating? Because everyone I personally know that has given it a chance has loved it, from high school up to baby boomers. Tell me, pish, what do you not like about the show? Tell me that or I (and I think I speak for several others here_ will have no reason to even listen to your opinion, much less respect it.