Comments on: TV Ratings: The Big Bang Theory, Two and a Half Men, Castle up; Heroes down

By: N

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:45:29 +0000

What is wrong with you Internet “House” fans? Cameron leaves and you act like it’s the end of the show? The show is called HOUSE for a reason. The show is not called CAMERON or CHASE or (thank goodness) FOREMAN. It’s called House. The show is about House. This year they have been focusing on HOUSE. House’s numbers are actually up from the end of last year. Stop with all this Cameron leaves the show is done crap. She has a part to play. So does everyone else. Get over it.HOuse’s numbers will go up and down, just like any shows.

By: john

john — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:07:52 +0000

castle and liet to me both hanging in there , they are only 2 I watch on monday

By: OBloodyhell

OBloodyhell — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:51:33 +0000

Heroes is up against House this season. There’s no surprise its numbers suck. What will be interesting is what happens when it gets moved back to its old 9pm time slot later on, and isn’t up against one of the top shows on TV.

By: Julia

Julia — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:43:34 +0000

I haven’t watched House in years, but it seems to me that you are saying this storyline is stupid because it’s not Huddy. And on the internet, the Huddy camp may be strong (though I’ve heard more about the House/Wilson shippers), but that has nothing to do with real life.

By: Eavesdropper

Eavesdropper — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:24:36 +0000

Julia seems to be saying that a stupid plot-line can’t sink a show just so long as it involves a ship. That doesn’t sound very smart…

By: Jarrett

Jarrett — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:21:24 +0000

Clearly Julia isn’t a House fan. They’re a really different bunch, and the “Huddy” thing — as they call it — is a very big deal to them. We’ll see if Eavesdropper or Julia is right.

By: Julia

Julia — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:12:51 +0000

Oh how I love when shippers think ship outrage translates into declining ratings.

By: Eavesdropper

Eavesdropper — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:07:38 +0000

My prediction is that House’s ratings will start dropping quite a bit over the next few weeks and into next year. They’ve introduced a ridiculous, unlikely plot line, with one of the two main characters (Cuddy) having a relationship with a very weak, much disliked one. Since the relationship between House and Cuddy was the focus of most fans, there is huge anger, even outrage, amongst them. The fans feel betrayed, a fact which has been made worse by leaked story-lines that show the disliked relationship going way into next year. The producers could salvage this by re-writing their bad plot, but I doubt they will.

By: Ray

Ray — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:27:02 +0000

NO i meant i would put Gossip Girl on MONDAYS at 8. NOT Tuesdays. Sorry for the typo.

By: Ray

Ray — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:26:07 +0000

I think, honestly, it might be time for the CW to rework its schedule!
And honestly, maybe it’s the end of Gossip Girl
If I was making the CW schedule, i would do as follows:
I would put Gossip Girl BACK on Tuesday’s at 8PM,because that is where it was more succesful… followed by Supernateral at 9. Supernatural is more likely to get renewed, and gets better ratings…but it could also help GG..
I would move the Vampire Diaries to Tuesday at 8, for no other reason that it coule help 90210. 90210 should be put back at 9. Vampire Diaries is usually the number one CW show (sometimes loses to ANTM tho…). While it is doing well on Thursdays, i think it is less competetive for it to air Tuesdays at 8, and it could provide the right lead in for a ratings improvement in 90210.
Wednesday night I would keep America’s next Top Model on at 8 oclock, and have Melrose Place follow it at 9. I think Melrose really needs a lead in. Even though 90210 gets good ratings, I too think it needs a lead in. The two shows are very similar, so it might have been a mistake putting them on the same night. I know MP might get canceled, but if it is renewed, ANTM is the right lead in for it.

Thursday night should be devoted to launching new shows next year. They had success with new shows on Thursdays before, so if any new shows come next year…This is the night for them.

Smallville should stay on Friday nights. Ratings for it still might not be great, but they seem to be stable. One Tree Hill is doing good this season, but putting it on fridays at 9, after Smallville, could ultimately boost the ratings, and then let them level out with an increase.

Any left over timeslots could be filled with repeats, as it is already done now. That’s just what I think the CW should do to give their shows more support in the ratings.

By: sierra

sierra — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:51:42 +0000

I love how people act like GG does SO MUCH BETTER in the demos than OTH…some weeks they’re actually tied in the demos, and every other week GG is only like .2 better. the network looks at the W18-34 demo PRIMARILY, but that doesn’t mean over-all viewers and the other demos mean absolutely nothing. With all these things combined, the CW is really thick-headed if it doesn’t value OTH over GG. GG doesn’t have consistent fans, as is obvious by how many people have quit watching now that it’s so bad, but OTH will always have a loyal fanbase that will come back as long as the show is on.

By: david

david — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:17:08 +0000

How can Heroes be going down when the shows get better and better as the season goes on? As NBC should know, Monday is NOT the best night for a SCI FI type show to be on. It should move it to Saturdays when there is NOTHING on TV and I bet it gets just as good of a rating if not better

By: Nottherebutnotthere

Nottherebutnotthere — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:00:16 +0000

Castle UP! YES. I think Castle has a good chance of getting a third season. Like someone said, its a sleeper show. Not break out hit but a steady show. ABC doesn’t have too many of them. I’m glad cause its one of the only shows I make time for in the week, everything else I watch on hulu.

By: jessé

jessé — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:36:16 +0000

H.B. – well its obvious why CW doesnt promote OTH. ITs an older series likely to end soon while Gossip Girl is still young and a CW original that the network wants to grow and become a OTH. OTH may seem safe for 2010-2011 but like Smallville by May 2011 both veterans will be gone. EVen a few weeks ago I thought it was possible that Smallville may get dumped by May 2010 and OTH would be slid to the Friday night 9:00 “WB veteran drama final season dump slot”

By: R.G

R.G — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:41:05 +0000

OTH is going to beat Heroes next season if Heroes continues to be as confusing and boring as Lost is.

By: Silku

Silku — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:34:56 +0000

I would say there is certain pattern to BBT episodes this season. The A story with Sheldon is very funny and B story with either Penny/Leonard, Raj/Howard or like last episode Leonard/Raj/Howard are most of the time mediocre and just not that funny.

In last night episode i found Sheldon/Penny part of the story very funny, worth an A in my book, while the other story was cringe inducing – so D worthy.

While last 2 seasons i didn’t quite understand why Sheldon gets so much praise, as for me while he was often very funny, almost as often he was just annoying and obnoxius, to the point i didn’t want to watch his part of the story. But this season they toned down his bad side, so he became my favourite character.

By: Kate

Kate — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:48:47 +0000

@girl

House has been losing audience hugely over the past year because of the focus on Thirteen and Foreman and people getting fed up with how badly Huddy is being written. Since Cameron was barely on last season (in less than half the episodes and only significant in 3 of them), it’s doubtful that dropping her entirely is going to bring as many viewers back to the show as those who will stop watching because she’s gone, and those who will give up on the show being as good as it was in the first seasons.

The TBBT episode may have been a bad one but House has had a string of bad episodes over the past two seasons. There isn’t a single major review who hasn’t been complaining of it.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:12:40 +0000

By: Julia

Julia — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:06:33 +0000

Skouse, the 12 and 13 are the share. They really don’t mean much when you are comparing things that air in different timeslots. More people watch TV at 9 than at 8, therefore a 5.1 rating is a slightly smaller percentage of all the people watching TV at 9 than at 8.

By: Skouse

Skouse — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:02:48 +0000

How is House and TBBT tied?
House is 5.1/13 where as TBBT is 5.1/12
house is 13 where as TBBT is 12
dosn’t that mean that house got the higher demo?

By: H.B.

H.B. — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:35:25 +0000

Without the big media hype and constant undeserved promotion from the CW each season Gossip Girl would be nothing. So many people buy into the hype of that show it’s ridiculous. One Tree Hill, however, is in it’s 7th? season or something now and CW barely pays it any attention (as usual) and it is still a strong performer each season. It either matches GG’s ratings most nights or outperforms them, that isn’t a fluke. OTH has devoted fans and the writing has remained strong considering all the changes the show has undergone over all these years. I’m not hating of GG but let’s give credit to OTH. GG will never last eight seasons. But of course they’ll BOTH be back next season so we all win there!

By: girl

girl — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:30:25 +0000

i don’t understand how TBBT tied House. TBBT is Ok at best but this epi was the worst ever. the whole pot thing was stupid and unrealistic. as for HOuse i don’t think the ratings will drop because for every one who stops watching due to her exit people who did not like her (and there are more of them than you think!) will start watching again. I like this epi of house and thought they handeled her exit very well and teh epi was very interesting.

By: Fennerbender

Fennerbender — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:10:18 +0000

Poor pisher Castle numbers go up and the latest “War and Peace” audio book is narrated by Gilbert Gottfried. Its a sad day in pisherville.

By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:59:43 +0000

wow. TBBT beat House in viewers and HH. and tied in Adults 18-49

By: Kate

Kate — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:18:36 +0000

House just lost Cameron permanently and probably many of her fans will leave now. And it looks like the rest of the show is a repeat of season 5, which was the worst season yet. I expect House’s numbers will keep going down this season now.

NBC will probably keep Leno because it’s so cheap to produce compared to a scripted drama.

It looks like Castle is going to be the sleeper show, like NCIS was.

By: tdot

tdot — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:53:23 +0000

the big bang theory is gonna make a killing in syndication

By: forg

forg — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:40:31 +0000

Final numbers courtesy of Travis Yanan (and thanks to Robert Seidman for e-mailing it to me since I can’t access the PI forum)

Dancing with the Stars (122 minutes)
- 18.844 million viewers
- 12.1/18 HH
- 3.9/10 A18-49

Castle (58 minutes)
- 10.528 million viewers
- 6.9/12 HH
- 2.5/7 A18-49

How I Met Your Mother (97% coverage, CBS normally is 98%)
- 8.162 million viewers
- 5.1/8 HH
- 3.4/9 A18-49

Accidentally on Purpose (97% coverage)
- 7.278 million viewers
- 4.7/7 HH
- 2.8/7 A18-49

Two and a Half Men (97% coverage)
- 13.686 million viewers
- 8.4/13 HH
- 4.7/12 A18-49

The Big Bang Theory (97% coverage)
- 13.229 million viewers
- 7.9/12 HH
- 5.0/12 A18-49

CSI: Miami (97% coverage)
- 13.262 million viewers
- 8.5/15 HH
- 3.7/10 A18-49

Heroes
- 5.077 million viewers
- 3.2/5 HH
- 2.2/6 A18-49

Trauma (61 minutes)
- 5.176 million viewers
- 3.4/5 HH
- 1.8/4 A18-49

The Jay Leno Show (59 minutes)
- 4.455 million viewers
- 3.0/5 HH
- 1.4/4 A18-49

House (61 minutes, 96% coverage, FOX normally is 98%)
- 12.666 million viewers
- 7.3/11 HH
- 5.0/13 A18-49

Lie to Me
- 7.233 million viewers
- 4.3/6 HH
- 2.7/7 A18-49

One Tree Hill (94% coverage, CW is normally 95%)
- 2.634 million viewers
- 1.7/3 HH
- 1.2/3 A18-49
- 1.5/4 A18-34
- 2.3/6 W18-34

Gossip Girl (94% coverage)
- 2.245 million viewers
- 1.5/2 HH
- 1.2/3 A18-49
- 1.6/4 A18-34
- 2.5/6 W18-34

***

The CBS comedies all fell down but at least TBBT still managed to get 5.0, matching House’s demo,.

DWTS is up and looks like it could crack 20 million viewers and a 4.0 for its finale next week

By: tvmegafan

tvmegafan — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:19:31 +0000

NO HEROES YOU WERE DOIN SOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD.What happened. I love this show.

By: vsaint

vsaint — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:14:48 +0000

Lie To Me isn’t a very good show, there’s a reason it’s gotten 13 episode orders in both seasons. It got additional few this year.
Plus with a huge HOUSE lead in, they were hoping for something like what Fringe got last year, 80% retention rate, not 55%. It’s borderline.

Last Year HOUSE ratings were down, i know alot of people didn’t like 13, Taub and Cutner. They got rid of Cutner, personal decision not creative one. I think they learned something and reduced 13 and Taub roles early this year.
This year the brought back Chase and Cameron into more full time roles.
Let’s see next week if ratings fall.

By: JaySin420

JaySin420 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:08:26 +0000

Heroes was actually really good last night but I wonder how many people turned it off when Mohinder showed up. That guy is the Heroes version of kryptonite.

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:05:04 +0000

Now that Mohinder is back on Heroes and he and Parkman are both alive and well I predict Heroes will drop under 5 million viewers for the next original episode. Keeping those two useless characters around is going to cause more fans to bolt! LMAO!

By: forg

forg — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:03:09 +0000

Bill, Robert, if possible, I hope you make a separate post about the final numbers for easy reference.

HIMYM is holding up really well, very pleased with its performance.

By: Episode 4×09 - Ratings Hit Series Low Second Week in a Row « Photomaniacal

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:41:39 +0000

[...] Here is the ratings chart from TVbytheNumbers [...]

By: UH

UH — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:41:10 +0000

Thanks Julia

By: Becki

Becki — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:39:12 +0000

Are the final numbers out? They are usually posted on this site.

By: Tammy

Tammy — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:28:46 +0000

Eventhough Heroes dropped for a 2nd straight week(2.2, 5.06 million viewers), it does get a 30%increase with DVR viewings. IF can’t say anything nice about Heroes, don’t say anything at all. It is as good or even better than season 1. I expect one more season.

By: Julia

Julia — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:02:48 +0000

UH, the index is based on the average, but sometimes shows will be highlighted in a color that doesn’t match with their index due to recent ratings. Like FlashForward is currently at 1.00 on the index, but it is in orange because the past two episodes rated 2.6, which isn’t a very good number for ABC.

By: UH

UH — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:52:55 +0000

To whoever can reply , maybe you already said a plenty of time , but in the renew/cancellation index , do you take in account the week by week rating or the avarage ?

By: marenamoo

marenamoo — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:36:10 +0000

Castle (58 minutes)
- 10.528 million viewers
- 6.9/12 HH
- 2.5/7 A18-49

final

By: bob

bob — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:35:35 +0000

Castle will stay mondays at 10 for the remainder of season 2. It will have the bachelor for a leadin soon, so we will c the ratings then, and most likely that will decides Castles fate.

After this season, if castle survives, I think ABC will move it to an 8pm slot somewhere, like tues or wed. Keep it away from thurs cuz people already watcxh bones, which is very similar. But we will have to wait til may to c.

By: House Addict

House Addict — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:23:51 +0000

Yay! My two favorite shows rule the Monday! TBBT was awesome, one of the best episodes ever. House wasn’t it’s usual brilliance.. but still great of course. I mean, it’s House we’re talking about.

By: ileandromp

ileandromp — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:22:07 +0000

Castle up!, yay!, this show deserves more credit then what they get. i love that show.
TBBT’s episode was HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!

By: UH

UH — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:20:41 +0000

I’m more surprised we had only one post from pisher in the Castle day

By: Tommy

Tommy — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:11:34 +0000

SciFiGeek, it’s not total viewers that count when it comes to cancellation/renewal, it’s all about the demo. And Lie to Me isn’t competing against the other networks, it’s competing against the rest of FOX’s line up. Lie to Me loses almost half of the demo leadin from House. That’s not working in it’s favor. But it’s demo average is slightly above the networks average, so for right now it still looks like it’s ok. It’s close to borderline, but for now it’s fine.

By: aznfratboy

aznfratboy — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:09:49 +0000

They really should’ve found a better night for Trauma, put it together with Mercy, it would’ve made more sense, now Trauma is dead, Mercy will die once may rolls round, 2/4 of the comedies NBC has are dead, NBC is screwed, they really need to rethink their structure.

CBS should rethink cancelling Accidently, after all, if someone were to watch How I Met Your Mother, it’s unlikely they’re going to change channel, they’ve missed half the episode of House/Dancing/One Tree Hill/Heroes already…

I hope Castle gets a third season, I really like it over here in Aus.

By: jam

jam — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:03:35 +0000

Oh thx Julina Are u still mad at me?? Joke

By: Julia

Julia — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:58:05 +0000

Jam, zap2it is using household ratings, not demo ratings.

By: SciFiGeekNJ

SciFiGeekNJ — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:41:37 +0000

Wow I’m amazed that Lie to Me still pulls in over 7 million viewers against the highest rated show of the evening (not to mention another established power house of Two and a Half Men) and people are stating it should be cancelled.

By: jam

jam — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:27:32 +0000

Sorry i meant:

”Gossip Girl” (2.2 million, 1.5/2)

“One Tree Hill” (2.6 million, 1.7/3)

[zap2it]

By: jam

jam — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:20:40 +0000

this week:

GG: 2.25 (1.2/3)
OTH: 2.62 (1.2/3)

[tvbythenumbers]

GG:”Gossip Girl” (2.2 million, 1.5/2)

OTH:”Gossip Girl” (2.2 million, 1.5/2)

[zap2it]

Whom should i believe?

OTH is still better than GG even without a lot of guest stars, threesomes and gay kiss! Sorry that’s my opinion.