Comments on: Heroes: The Renew/Cancel Index Curse?

By: Tre618

Tre618 — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:04:32 +0000

OMG its doing better now, ALL OF U HEROES HATERS CAN STOP HATING ON HEROES NOW!, heroes is really a great show, wtf would it get canceled for?

By: jeff

jeff — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:13:43 +0000

mercy and trauma did not really get a chance to succeed they should both get another day and time both shows are very good so there
chuck is a waste of time. any tv show that nbc has will lose against two and a half men on monday nite rite rite.

By: jeff

jeff — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:56:42 +0000

everyone,jay leno at 10pm is the biggest mistake for nbc, the ratings
are worse than heroes ,trauma and mercy . svu should be back at 10pm
tuesday nights.law and order back at 10pm thursdays put mercy and
trauma on fridays but first cancellllllll jay leno nowwwwwww.

By: Dan

Dan — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:55:05 +0000

Heroes and L&O could go either way at this point. NBC is in bad shape and its a toss up. Id say in terms of comedy Community can definitely get a second year and Parks MAY return. Trauma is dead and Mercy is only 6 more episodes away from being dead.

By: RonEffingSwanson

RonEffingSwanson — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:38:00 +0000

PARKS AND RECREATION IS THE BEST SHOW IN ALL OF TELEVISION RIGHT NOW. No way they cancel it given the critical acclaim this season is getting. I’m expecting Emmy nods for Best Comedy, Best Comedy Actress (Poehler) and Best Supporting (Nick Offerman, Aziz Ansari). Best cast on TV too (Chris Pratt especially has been ridiculously funny this year). Just like 30 Rock, critical acclaim will come before ratings (although 30 Rock wouldn’t do much better than P&R in that time slot)

By: BANG

BANG — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:30:43 +0000

HEROES WENT DOWNHILL BECAUSE OF THEFT AND STUPIDITY.
Heroes is finished and it was finished the moment tim kring stole those NYC artists IP.
Every one worth anything in the tv and film industry know this fact.
NBC is a joke and hopefully those NYC artists are having a well deserved laugh at those morons at NBC.
BANG!! BANG!! you’re dead Heroes and may you rot in hell.
What a bunch of retards.

By: Holly

Holly — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:42:40 +0000

i don’t think 30 Rock is this big Hit.. its just really lucky to have a strong lead in.

I agree, but as it stands, it is still one of their highest-rated shows.

By: Molly

Molly — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:14:06 +0000

”The 9:00 comedies are two of the highest rated shows on the network. The 8:00 comedies aren’t faring as well, but they are doing better than either of the new dramas and Leno.”
i don’t think 30 Rock is this big Hit.. its just really lucky to have a strong lead in.

By: TVfan

TVfan — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:07:09 +0000

It made me dispointed.
I hope Heroes will be better.

By: josh

josh — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:22:46 +0000

I tape Heroes for 2 weeks and the third week I watch them all in a row. So I screw them up pretty badly.

By: Don

Don — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:12:23 +0000

@DryedMangoez I am with you except I would like closure for the show. Its time.

By: Larryville Slim

Larryville Slim — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:00:24 +0000

@ Theoacme –
Yikes, you’re right. The wrath of The Donald is considerable. Did you see the ESPN special on who killed the USFL back in the ’80s? Many think it was The Donald. Great clips of it here, including one where Donald says he’ll “attack” reporter Charley Steiner for his criticisms:

http://30for30.espn.com/film/small-potatoes-who-killed-the-usfl.html

By: DryedMangoez

DryedMangoez — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:53:31 +0000

Cancel Heroes!

By: M

Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:56:30 +0000

and i see NBC bring Americas Got Talent in Fall 2010

By: M

Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:55:19 +0000

The olympics are coming NBC so find a hit and promo the heck outta it!

By: Master Moron

Master Moron — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:58:15 +0000

I thought Heroes’ season was going to be done by January?

By: tvmegafan

tvmegafan — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:34:10 +0000

I know hereos will do wayyyy better in janurary, when it gets ITS timeslot back, the timeslot its always had…9/8c where it belongs, cause right now its competing with House and thats BIG competition.

By: Scott

Scott — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:25:59 +0000

@vsaint i see your point, but I do think the story line is started to pick up with the introduction of Robert Knepper. The problem for me is that whoever the writers decide to kill they can always come back to life due to time travel and other abilities.

@Donnie no, i guess I’m just on the fox news bandwagon I don’t like NBC much to begin with. If Heroes gets a proper ending then I’d be fine.

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By: Theoacme

Theoacme — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:07:45 +0000

Larryville – you forgot Dateline and Trump – now the Donald will have to go all Jesse Ventura on you

By: Holly

Holly — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:57:52 +0000

one more thing i dont see why nbc is so devoted on it’s thursday line-up,

Because it gets good ratings in the 18-49 and 18-34 demos as well as the high-income demos, which means they make a lot of money off of that line-up. Comedies also do really well in syndication, so they can look forward to extra money from that as well.

The 9:00 comedies are two of the highest rated shows on the network. The 8:00 comedies aren’t faring as well, but they are doing better than either of the new dramas and Leno.

By: Donnie

Donnie — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:45:51 +0000

Scott, do you think NBC should keep Heroes around forever, no matter how terrible the ratings get? They have to end it sometime. I agree they should at least let it conclude, as anyone masochistic enough to stick with the show this long at least deserves that much.

By: Larryville Slim

Larryville Slim — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:39:43 +0000

For a network that has thrown in the towel on one-third of its prime time programming, and proven incapable of creating and sustaining one successful scripted program (other than the Dick Wolf franchises), I propose the NBC solution:
8-9 pm M-W: The Biggest Loser
8-9 pm, Th.: L&O: SVU
8-9 pm, Fri.: L&O
M-F, 9-10 pm: Leno
M-F, 10-11 pm: Conan
M-F, Late Night: Fallon (the artist formerly known as Kimmel)
Cut those losses! Pre-empt with football whenever possible. Prepare to fold the network into a 24-hour infomercial/home shopping network marketing its own extensive line of weight loss products.
:^)

By: Larryville Slim

Larryville Slim — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:33:51 +0000

@Devdog–
Sorry. Middle-aged brain fart. Fallon. Not Kimmel. Fallon.
Laugh a little, dude! It’s good for you!
I’m a working musician by night — if I’m home at 12:30 a.m., I’m probably asleep…
Below is my corrected attempt at humor. Went over like, um, a lead zeppelin!

By: The Punisher

The Punisher — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:01:09 +0000

vsaint that’s bullshit!

By: vsaint

vsaint — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:52:23 +0000

The problem for me is Heroes has run out of interesting storylines for these particular set of characters.
It was suppose to be like 24, where characters are replaced every couple of seasons, but they decided to go the LOST route and it got boring.

By: Scott

Scott — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:15:12 +0000

Last year I made the decision that I’ll completely stop watching NBC if Heroes is canceled. I’ve gotten attached to way too many NBC shows for them to just be up and canceled.

If Heroes ends like Las Vegas did then I’m going to completely shut out NBC and will not be watching any of their new shows. I’ll continue to watch the Office on Hulu (and Chuck).

By: Marcos

Marcos — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:06:08 +0000

NBC needs so much to move L&O from Fridays.

By: nemo

nemo — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:02:56 +0000

….. and one more thing i dont see why nbc is so devoted on it’s thursday line-up, i think nbc’s scheduling gurus and executives should think for once

By: nemo

nemo — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:59:58 +0000

“Mercy” is safe, if I’m one of the executive of this fourth-place network, and nobody watch my new shows except for “Mercy”, i would renew “Mercy” eventhough it’s not a strong player in terms of 18-49 key adult share…… 7 million viewers per week, you dont see that everyday plus 1.9 average is passable since it’s on a slow timeslot.

i would not be surprise if “Heroes” is still on next fall 2010.

and i dont expect much for “Chuck” this season…. i dont see why people skip the show

“Trauma” is dead. “Law and Order” for 21 is possible, “Parks and Recreation” is nbc’s big bosses favorite…i heard. “Community” might need CPR if the ratings didn’t improve

By: LostAtSea

LostAtSea — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:40:59 +0000

I mostly agree with Danny: Claire and Sylar do NOT need to be in every episode!

Although at least Mohinder only came back for 2 episodes and then died/left in insane asylum forever. That’s some comfort

This week and last week’s Heroes were actually pretty good imo. Some eps this season have been a little boring but most of them have been good, and at least the characters are doing normal things instead of last seasons trauma – mohinder the fly?! WTF were they thinking?!

By: Brendan

Brendan — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:51:34 +0000

community is hiilarious!!! if they let it go over parks and rec then im done with NBC

By: Molly

Molly — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:58:20 +0000

the last episode of mercy with the real housewife of new jersey was so funny! the best episode of the season! im so in love with chloe and veronica, and mike is such a puppy
i can see a loooong future for this show !!!! it deserves it!

By: Danny

Danny — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:43:52 +0000

Last week’s “Heroes” was PAINFUL to watch…the one with the Tracy and Claire bonding session and a boring return of Mohinder. For the life of me I can’t figure out the need to show Claire every single week. I am so sick of that character. She’s not doing anything. She’s not learning anything new about herself. I don’t get the interest in her. And Mohinder. OMG. I can’t figure out what role this character is supposed to play on this show. One minute he’s just a curious observer of people with powers and then the next he’s a mad scientist. Now he’s just a snooze. The storylines on this show seem to be on repeat mode. When are the heroes going to start being heroes? I’m sick of them just saving themselves week after week. Whats the point of having powers when you don’t use them for anything?

By: Brad

Brad — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:42:10 +0000

I kinda dig Mercy. It used to be background noise…but its grown on me.

By: Tre618

Tre618 — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:35:15 +0000

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!, what is wrong with people, why don’t they watch heroes anymore? its a great show, omg this is a disaster

By: Prup (aka Jim Benton)

Prup (aka Jim Benton) — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:19:34 +0000

I will still just say that I have no idea if MERCY will be given another season, just that it deserves one, is the best new show of the year, and that if it is, I think it will slowly find an audience which will give it a five-year run.

By: Devdog

Devdog — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:06:05 +0000

Larryville Slim: How do you propose that NBC puts an ABC show (Kimmel) on NBC Late Night?

By: tw

tw — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:26:39 +0000

plz have mercy and dont let us go into trauma over a next season of heroes!

i mean HELLO? plzzzzz its so bad i just watch it to get some fucking closure with thits fuck. Season 1 was so great and now? HRG man having a girlfriend that pops out of the box like “hey i was always there”.

Clair being bisexuell now? (WTF???)

well i just hope sylar kills every last one of them, cause he cant die anyway…. maybe have some kids with claire as she cant die either and he can go into anyform claire find hot.

By: Me

Me — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:43:27 +0000

In response to the above quote, I’ve seen every episode of Heroes this season, and I’d just call it ok, to be honest.

By: Me

Me — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:42:29 +0000

“Its fair enough to say season 3 was poor and I totally agree but season 4 has been really good and if you aren’t watching, don’t f**king comment on its quality anymore.”

By: bryan bell

bryan bell — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:03:52 +0000

Er, wasn’t that a 1.5 18-49 rating for L & O last Friday (not a 1.4)? And yet, as its demo fluctuates, it is still pulling in the same 7.5-8 million viewers every Friday. And still going up 25-30% in the L+7 ratings.

Seems that the whole NBC schedule is now caught in the Leno Death Spiral.

By: Larryville Slim

Larryville Slim — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:00:51 +0000

For a network that has already thrown in the towel on one-third of its prime time programming, and has proven incapable of creating and sustaining one single successful scripted program (other than the Dick Wolf franchises), I propose the NBC solution:
8-9 pm M-W: The Biggest Loser
8-9 pm, Th.: L&O: SVU
8-9 pm, Fri.: L&O

M-F, 9-10 pm: Leno
M-F, 10-11 pm: Conan
M-F, Late Night: Kimmel
Cut losses. Pre-empt all with football whenever possible. Prepare to fold the network into a 24-hour infomercial/home shopping network marketing its own extensive line of weight loss products.
:^)

By: Sausageroll

Sausageroll — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:42:46 +0000

Fed up of people calling Heroes a “train wreck”.
Its fair enough to say season 3 was poor and I totally agree but season 4 has been really good and if you aren’t watching, don’t f**king comment on its quality anymore.

By: Eduardo Peixoto

Eduardo Peixoto — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:21:48 +0000

Stop using last week’s text, it gets annoying.
Mercy keeps getting better i n quality measures, however it gotta keep itself above the 2.0 mark in 18-49 in order to be renewed. And that’s why i’m crossing my fingers for.

By: John

John — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:03:40 +0000

I used to fight for Mercy..but I watched the next couple of episodes..and it’s terrible.

By: The Other Tony

The Other Tony — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:43:10 +0000

Exactly Rich. Heroes will be here through next season. The early ending to this season will give the writers time to come up with a satisfying conclusion for next season.

Also I think P and R and Community are safe based on steady viewership and quality.

By: Winston Smith (TruthMin)

Winston Smith (TruthMin) — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:21:38 +0000

Cant help but wonder if that scene where Claire slits her wrist was telegraphing NBCs plans for the show.

Its time to end that train wreck and have the circus guy blow up the entire planet – KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM !!! Now thats what I would call “going out with a bang”.

By: Rich

Rich — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:27:36 +0000

If NBC cancelled every show that wasnt doing good that would only leave them 2 or 3 shows next year!

So we all know Heroes is safe!

By: dom

dom — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:17:16 +0000

Thanks for the explanations, Tommy!

By: Jordan

Jordan — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:48:19 +0000

Tommy, from a commercial point of view, I agree that FF’s sudden ratings descent cannot be compared to HEROES: the latter show clearly built up a lot of goodwill with its stellar first season ratings. FF doesn’t have that goodwill, and will surely fail to achieve a second season if its ratings don’t pick up soon.

But, purely from a writing perspective, if a storyline that had gone off the rails over the course of some twenty or thirty episodes can still be salvaged, there must be every chance of the FF writing team turning round the past six or so. As the pilot ratings show, FF does have an intriguing concept: if the writers can start to deliver a worthy show, I’m sure the viewers will flock black.