I absolutely love Ming-Na from ER and how she is trying to portray what should/could be a fascinating character, but that’s not enough for me to tune in on Fridays. Michael Shanks as an interesting character on Santuary sounds good though. I’m gonna check it out!

Here’s a petition you can sign:

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/BringBackAtlantis

But compare first seasons to first season — when BOTH shows were new and fresh and full of energy — and you’ll see how poorly SGU is faring.

SGU kicking tail……..HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

SGU is the crap ever. Sorry but there is nothing star gate related to this hsow OTHER than the gate. Both of the other series were based on action, adventure and scifi.

This one is based on soap opera Keno opera personal story opera. My mommie baked cookies for me. Hang on while I hurl.

I have watched all of the episodes on Hulu.com of SGU, since the SciFi channel has been moved by my cable network to one of the highest cable tiers they have (way too much money to spend for garbage channels and one good one)!

I think if the numbers are down in tv viewers, then that could really be why…cable companies (Cox Communications, Orbitel, et. al.) have moved the SciFi channel to cable tier that is not just “basic” or “expanded basic” cable, which many people have these days.

IMHO, SGU is kicking some tail for the Stargate Franchise! I mean, in like the very first episode there is a kick butt sex scene, which you have not seen in any of the prior Stargate Franchises, and the concept of finding a ship built by the Ancients leads to many questions/answers that probably can/will directly correlate to the other two franchises.

Daniel Jackson was an ascended being, has had Merlyn’s conciousness, not to mention others, infused into his being. Col. Jack O’Neill has had the Repositories of the Ancients downloaded into his brain…TWICE! These events will probably be streamlined into the SGU franchise, since all the information they have is based from SG-1 & SG-A…

There is no doubt in my mind, especially after seeing the episode of Justice, that there will be some serious things going down, especially since the wonderful schmuck of a “Scientist” has been left alone with a completely alien ship that I am sure he will have up and running in short order, and will then be chasing after the Destiny.

As for Rodney McCay being able to crack the code and get into the system, that is an idea that the writers may incorporate into the story line, but as it stands right now, I can’t wait to buy every last season of SG-U, the same as I did with SG-1 and SG-A, and all four movies (including the original/directors cut of the original).

SIGNED: A LOYAL STARGATE FAN FOR LIFE!

I got around to reading the Q and A from your link. I was so ROTFL when I read:

“That said, whenever possible — and it’s often possible — it’s nice to get your facts right, or at the very least not get them so wrong that it throws your audience out of the moment.”

I don’t think they paid much attention to that suggestion. LOL.

I said many of the same writers because not all of the writers that worked on SG1 and SGA have written on SGU thus far.

But, you are very correct that absolutely ALL of the writers that HAVE written on SGU did write for the previous 2 shows. I just didn’t clarify my statement. Good looking out.

Thanks for the link:)

Sadly, these ARE many of the same writers as SGA/SG1.

I hope that the franchise continues to do well, mostly because I’d like some more direct to DVD movies! But I think I’m going to be skipping Universe, at least for the rest of this season.

SG1 and SGU are completely opposite in that respect. In SG1 all the main characters are saints with pure intentions (which works towards the show’s strengths). However, SGU is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. With what little time the characters don’t spend plotting their next back stab, they’re busy sinking a blade into someone’s spine. Instead of ‘pretending everyone is perfect’, they’re trying to say that everyone is broken.

But since I heard the producers don’t give a shit about what the old fans think I simply stopped watching.

I didn’t even watch the mid season finale.

SGU is done.

I avoid to go through JM’s blog too coz this man seem to think he is the only one who is right. When you try to post on his blog you can’t if you don’t agree with his comments. Your post is removed coz it could make black mark in this superlative world. I can’t respect him when he rants against fans who dare to tell what they think of the new fresh creative show. A man who ignored the lead actor writing some “odd” comments about him and I don’t tell the right word that hit my mind by now.

@tom
“I would avoid Joe Malozzi’s blog. He ignores and deletes legitimate criticism. He spends most of his time selecting the most excessive and emotional comments and making fun of them. The rest of the time he makes up excuses, retcons, and is arrogant toward fans who ask questions or find flaws. It’s not worth your time.”
I agree with this.
It would seem he use some words or sentences out of the context and interpret them or bring oil on the fire. I wonder if he even reads all the interview where came from words or sentences. He spins the facts.

@morena
“I didn’t put the link there because I believe that he will approve all of the comments that criticize the show. But, he will “have” to at least read enough of them to tell that they are criticisms, which is in itself sending a message to one of the producers.

You are right though, he now takes complaints and criticisms and changes them in to compliments and makes fun of them on his blog. But at least he had to read the original comment to be able to do that.

I was just offering the link to anyone that wanted to “try” and voice an opinion there”

He can’t do that. Especially after the ranting he made about the old fans. He didn’t show so many respect here.
Very unprofessional behavior IMO.
When I think I liked the work he made on SGA season 4 and 5 and like some eps who wrote.

I agree with morana about BW and maureen Ryan.

I’m just not sure that there IS a better option. We’ve seen how Brad Wright feels about criticism when he went on Maureen Ryan’s Twitter page (out of all available means of communication? I bet he’s already sworn off “friending” her on Myspace) to snap at her for doing what she gets paid to do.

Rob Cooper is a little better, but he’s also been mocking in tone with fans that had complaints. They all seem to respond in similar if not the same ways to any type of criticism. And it’s not good.

I’m sure that we might see them as nice guys if we knew them. But that doesn’t change the fact that instead of really hearing what their fans have to say, most of the time they just play defense. It’s sad but true.

I didn’t put the link there because I believe that he will approve all of the comments that criticize the show. But, he will “have” to at least read enough of them to tell that they are criticisms, which is in itself sending a message to one of the producers.

You are right though, he now takes complaints and criticisms and changes them in to compliments and makes fun of them on his blog. But at least he had to read the original comment to be able to do that.

I was just offering the link to anyone that wanted to “try” and voice an opinion there.

There is no leadership in the entire series just constant bickering Young and Rush and Rush and everyone else. Rush has over played his part. The writers are to blame here.

Therefore, get out in the universe and do what Statgate personnel do, explore the ship, explore planets, meet aliens, learn about the ancients, FORGET ABOUT SEX and HAVING A LISBIAN ON THE SHIP, HAVING FAMILY PROBLEMS BACK ON EARTH, GET RID OF THE STONES AND THE BACK AND FORTH TO EARTH TRAVEL (this is getting mighty old). In fact, the entire cast and show, is getting mighty old, boring, (poor, poor casting and even poorer writing)

Stargate is not supposed to be REALITY TV with family squabbles or, BGS, LOST, ENTERPRISE (even Enterprise met people and explored). These people on Destiney are all supposed to be military (with leadership understand) or highly intelligent scientist with a knowledge of chain of command. If Stargate does not fixed SGU it is doomed.

The show is so dark and dreary. You really can’t tell what is ‘suppose’ to be happening. The shakey photography gives me vertigo
I agree with a previous viewer:

“For a show that is supposed to take place at the far edge of the universe, SGU makes its viewers feel like that they are still stuck in a parking lot. Where is the sense of discovery, wonder and danger?”

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/october-31-2009-that-long-overdue-rant-and-a-behind-the-scenes-vid-from-water/

But, seriously, I’m done watching this show.

I’ve really been holding out, watching patiently, hoping these shows would get better. I think that alot of people were doing the same and I think the numbers will really drop in the second half of the season as people like me finally give up hope that it will get better.

I’m what you’d call a Stargate fan. I own all 10 seasons of SG1, all 5 seasons of SGA, and 3 SG movies on DVD. But, I can’t watch (what I call) Stargate: Soap Opera. There’s just too much 90210 and not enough sci-fi for my taste. I gave it a fair shake (9 hours of my time), but now I’m done.

Why do I waste my time posting this? Because I love the SG franchise too much to let it fail without letting my voice be heard. I hope the producers listen to what the loyal fanbase wants in a show. If we just go away quietly, they’ll continue producing these shows thinking that everyone’s happy… when they obviously are not. I am letting them know that if they want another DVD sale out of me they need to give me what I want. And, as of now, SGU isn’t it.

I work away for six weeks at a time and had recorded all of the episodes screened while I was working. I watched the first three and couldn’t bring myself to watch any more, I deleted the rest. Such a dissapointment as I am a big SG1 and SGA fan! NOTHING HAPPENS ON THE SHOW!!!!!

Where is the action, humour, aliens etc we have come to expect from the Stargate franchise?

I’m also not sure if “hate” is the right word here. Most people that I know and have read on different threads online feel disappointed. That disappointment should not be misinterpreted as hate.

Yes, there are a few people out there that hated the show before it even aired, but I don’t think that this is the vast majority of people that are complaining about SGU. Most of us really tried to like the show. I gave it many more chances to “get good” than I normally would for a new show before recently deciding to let it go.

I do think they are losing people, but maybe they will gain enough viewers like yourself who actually like what it is they are trying to do that can offset the fans that are leaving.

@Don J – I realize there are those who love the franchise and think this series turns its back on that tradition. That’s the reason for that one group’s hate.

Other than those people I don’t think anyone hates it as much as they like parts of it and wish it were better. I, for example, like the on-ship scenes but every time someone goes home it makes me want to fast forward. The lesson that I think is here for the Stargate producers is that they’re trying to do three shows (a sci-fi show, a teen drama and an adult drama) and it’s working for almost no one (yourself being one of the few exceptions).

“But wasn’t it about time they tried something different creatively?”

When we look at the creative decisions that have been made with SGU for its first 9 episodes, so many fans of the franchise as it was (including myself) would answer your question with a resounding “NO”.

One real insight in to the Stargate Franchise is that SG1 had a nice 10 year run and then seamlessly moved in to making movies. The torch was then passed on to SGA as THE on TV Stargate show that many fans could tune in and love to watch each week.

I think that the writers and creators of Atlantis got to where they didn’t have any new ideas and they knew that the writing was getting old, and so they thought that if they started a new show (SGU) with Soap Opera themes and recycled plots with new faces that people would see it as fresh and edgy. Not so. At least not for many old Stargate fans.

Again, I will state that I’m happy if someone, anyone, likes SGU as it is. They sure spent enough on it for that to be the case. But the truth still remains that some new writers on Atlantis with real fresh ideas and perpectives would have done wonders. Atlanis was ended abruptly, and in my opinion, fairly sloppily.

It didn’t have the run that it should have had because they ended it to start SGU. That was their first mistake because if you are going to end a beloved show before its time to start another show, then that show had better be seen as worth it by fans who feel let down by the premature cancellation of the previous show.

Some will say that the creators and producers didn’t owe their fans anything and that it’s up to them to do whatever they please, fans be damned. But, it was the fans that allowed them to have shows and movies for 12+ years, so not taking their pre-established fan base in to account when making SGU was stupid if they weren’t going to fill the void that Atlantis left. There was bound to be some backlash, especially when so many fans are having a hard time getting in to SGU.

I agree with other people that have said that SGU and Atlantis should have ran simultaneously to end Atlantis properly and then make Atlantis movies. This would have allowed fans to ease in to SGU and give constructive feedback on it without feeling cheated out of the Stargate they knew and enjoyed because SGA would still be on the air. That would have been the best way to go in my opinion.

I for one have really enjoyed the heck out of the show.

“Light” was probably one of the most exciting and action-packed episodes of all 3 Stargate incarnations.

I understand there are fans who still like the old procedural self-contained plot formula with quirky characters and some comedy. But, we had that formula for over 12+ years. Personally for me it was getting really old and tiresome and I was glad that they decided to try something different creatively and make the show serialized with more drama.

I know just having the Stargate name will draw comparisons and especially using Richard Dean Anderson and Amanda Tapping as recurring guest stars. But wasn’t it about time they tried something different creatively?

I don’t know why there’s angst over whether the show will be renewed. It had a two season deal and it’s not like syfy has anything else to show. It will get two seasons and dropped after that. The franchise won’t recover – it’s done. Blame the writers and producers for doing such a poor job.

I agree with you they would have had to keep SGA for 1 or 2 more seasons to developp SGU for 2011/2012 and introduce it better.
My disappoinement is as important as my love for the previous shows.

Yeah, a writer does write for him or herself. But the writer was once the audience. There may be a good show in SGU, but it’s just a matter of refining it, narrowing it, and probably hiring a new creative team.

The only compelling part of the show is waiting til ends and then starting the snark.

Joe Flanigan, is that you? :p

@Marc
they should of renewed SGA for a couple of more seasons and then in 2011 or 2012 start SGU. They could of with SGA add some more edgier themes like they did in Season 4. Heck, Season 4 had a very strong 18 to 34 and 18 to 49 age demo So go figure.

As the cast asked but producers didn’t pay attention to this.